November 1997 - Sinister

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by Jamie Huxley 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

i am very grateful for the lengthy and detailed discussions upon "rock 'n' roll" and its relative proximity to heaven. however, i feel that certain arguments quickly became tied to an attempt to distinguish between rock and roll and pop. this, at least in my mind at the time of conception, was not the intended focus. i took it in its broader and more nebulous sense - music. the reason i say this is becase of its context; it is of course a lyric from Aztec Camera's "Somewhere in my Heart". i may be wrong, but i feel that the intensity and dynamism of this particular section of the song transcends the issue differentiation that was so eloquently, but perhaps wrongly, dwelt on. if indeed, music is to remembered as "little moments", i believe the value of the moment should be respected. i believe that during the moment when this particular lyric was penned, and then fused with the music, the moment was all-encompassing and universal, panoramic and devoid of judgement. in any way perhaps we should wonder why "this ain't the planet of sound" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Rock and pop?
by JSwinea＠aol.com 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

In a message dated 97-11-30 08:36:29 EST, skg21 writes: << Rock 'n' roll is surely by definition happy, upbeat music >> Oh geez, I agreed with much of what you said,but I can't really buy into this statement. First of all, I don't see any point in confining any art, including popular art, to one emotion. That's pretty stifling. I think, if anything, Rock 'n' roll is closer to alienation by definition. Secondly, there are examples throughout the past to contradict the notion that it need to be happy music to be Rock. Bob Dylan was at his best and rockin'est in the 60s when he was smart, angry, and full of contempt. Brian Wilson was at his best when he was sad with songs like "Caroline No" and "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times". And Westerberg, he was at his best when he was happy, furious and depressed. Now that he's completely happy he pretty much sucks. I think Lester Bangs pretty much nailed what Rock 'n' Rolls' all about and how it relates to "heaven" when he wrote,"The politics of rock 'n' roll, in England or America or anywhere else is that a whole bunch of kids want to be fried out of their skins by the most scalding propulsion they can find, for a night they can pretend is the rest of their lives, and whether the next day they go back to work in shops or boredom on the dole or American TV doldrums in Mom 'n' Daddy's living room nothing else can cancel the reality of that night in the revivifying flames when for once if only then in your life you were blasted outside of yourself and the monotony which defines most life anywhere at any time, when you supped on the lightning and nothing else in the realms of the living or dead mattered at all." joe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Re: P!O!P!
by Perfection As A Hipster 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

The duke of harringay wrote ... >I choose the word Pop because i feel it annoys enough people, and because it sounds right! :-) < P!O!P! = Particoloured Offbeat Phonology = Pleasure! Obsession! Passion! Ehrm ... just a thought ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Jamie Huxley 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

this is entirely unrelated to the band, i apologise if its irrelevance is an abuse. Its just that i have a friend who is a first-year sociologist at Exeter. He has never replied to one of my Emails, and i find it distressing. The cheeky favour i ask is if any one has the time to waste, could they Email O.R.E.Brann(a)exeter.ac.uk and tell him to email Jamie. sorry. ps, any one is at a Royal Holloway, or has ever contacted an undergrads there by Email, could they explain how you locate addresses, becuause i can't do it at all. jimmy jazz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: terry underwear and all that
by Oxyura12 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

Jamie leave us alone; we are not your tool. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: sorry to raise your hopes
by mctag＠mcmail.com 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

Err.... Since some of you have got all excited about record collector and assumed it was a tigermilk thing it isn't. It was just a thing about the French TV series with a picture of a record sleeve entitled 'Belle et Sebastien et les oiseaux'. I thought it was cute, that's all. Love Tag (tired and with three film reviews to write by tomorrow morning) Oh, by the way. I don't buy record collector, it was shown to me by someone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: Mogwai
by Mike Newman 30 Nov '97

30 Nov '97

I'm just listening to "young team" for the first time...I've seen Mogwai mentioned on this list previously and I wondered if there is a B&S connection beyond nationality? Actually, they sound curiously like Bitch Magnet to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Arab Strap/I've shhtarted sho I'll finishhhh, pal!
by Daniel Smith 29 Nov '97

29 Nov '97

Incidentally is anyone going to see Arab Strap at Manchester Roadhouse on Monday? If you see a short 'strawberry blond' boy there, say hello, it's probably me. Sorry, I can't quite bring myself to describe my hair as 'ginger'. My sister was teaching her class of 5 year olds about hair colour, and this one kid said his hair was 'sparkly orange'. I like that. In Romania they say 'the red man is a bad man'. You know it. I'm bad. Love and kisses Sparkly Orange of Chorlton Yup I'll be one of those wonderful ppl there though scince you can only fit about five ppl in there I guess I'll see you there (is it sold out I don't have a ticket yet???) My hair is positively brown though what I could really do with is a tasty line in hats . Any suggestions anyone??? gotta go Chemical Brothers calls..... *sigh* so many gigs so little time :) Dan xxxx P.S. Does anyone know when Trembling Blue Stars new one is out (I heard second week of December????) P.P.S My depression is over :) women are wonderful again (not that I was a misogynist before) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: something very cool
by mctag＠mcmail.com 29 Nov '97

29 Nov '97

Record collector. P147 (I think). That's all I'm saying. Mr S-O xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Beatnik
by MWaggner＠aol.com 29 Nov '97

29 Nov '97

it's by Toby Litt is called Beatnik I thought this rang a bell... Last year or earlier this year we were at a John Cale show at the Supper Club in NYC, and met Toby Litt in the crowd. Shy little fellow in a black leather coat. My friend spent the evening talking to him and later regretting that she didn't offer to show him the city. She went all out to get his first book of short stories from the UK (it wasn't available here) and said it was great. She has Beatnik, but hasn't read it yet... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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