November 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: Christ the old list's gone a spot quiet now
by Keith Watson 11 Nov '97

11 Nov '97

Not a lot going on is there? I'm flying down to London today and will hopefully be meeting Robert tonight before I have to hotfoot it off to the thrills and spills that is the Microsoft Professional Developers conference tomorrow where we all bow down and pay homage the lord that is Bill Gates. Peter, my mates used to love the sprint through Kelvingrove park after a night at the boozer a few years ago. I can just see them now, like Linford Christie both of them. Not much going on in the land of B+S at the moment is there - looks like we're just going to have to talk about something else then I suppose. Anyone see Verve on Jools Holland? I thoroughly enjoyed that last Saturday. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: manchester and arab strap
by Andrew.Dean＠BULL.NET 11 Nov '97

11 Nov '97

Sinister: Manchester & Arab Strap A FRIEND (ah6991(a)bristol.ac.uk) Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:54:26 +0000 (GMT) >So whats the age limit on the gigs? My little brother is >fourteen and a completely devoted fan - is there any chance >of him getting in? >And are they gonna be played in churches again? um, i don't know. licensed venues are usually 18+ but manchester town hall (where the gig is) isn't your usual venue so you may be lucky. i've noticed young kids in a couple of the gigs (glasgow and new york to be exact) but i think they are related to the band in some way so... actually, someone mentioned them playing cathedrals but stuart m mentioned in the tour diary thing from the mm that the sound is really soupy and they'd sound dreadful so... >I bought an Arab Strap single called The Clearing earlier >this year which claims to feature Isobel Campbell and Chris >Geddes - is this true? no, they lied on the sleeve... of course it's true. and i think it says on there what they do - isobel cello, chris keyboards of some sort. chris and stuart m. helped out on the arab strap peel session as well, keyboards and piano again, maybe backing vox. speaking of which, i noticed 'the smell of outdoor cooking' has been released. is this the peel session version and / or is there any b&s involvement? i didn't buy it at the time and it's 'limited' so... and there's that remix they did for someone else which sounds like aiden just speaks over the top of a track that was formerly an instrumental. good though. 'i tell you, it's always the same girl'... >Also, would it sound stupid if I said that having bought >the Mogwei album (cos you lot told me to) I just don't get >it? Should I just listen to it more or is it's strangeness >it's charm? are you a nuclear physicist perchance? no, that was alistair and paul both of whom belong to the list's old people brigade so you should take what they say with a pinch of salt if you're one of the youngsters. the older people here, as i've pointed out before, have strange(r) tastes in music. i have big theories about this but someone's already had a go at me for mentioning it so i'll keep them to myself. and yeah, listening to things more is always helpful. >For your census thing I'm 19 and a student of Physics and >Philosophy fuck, i was only joking about the pysicist thing too (because of the fact you used strangeness and charm in the same sentence). andy returning from self imposed list exile for a few minutes... "How's everything?" "Good. You?" "Oh, beautiful." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Rough Guide
by Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta 11 Nov '97

11 Nov '97

If the ball does begin to roll, I'd like to point out that what I wrote was intended to encourage others to at least join in. Some of what I scribbled down was completer cobblers, meant to provoke corrections or feverish defences of some aspect or other of Belle and Sebastian's music. Other things that I wrote I would be willing to defend to the ends of the indie earth. Let's just say that Mike Oldfield really shouldn't be there. If nobody else wants to play, I'd like the oppurtunity to rewrite it properly, hopefully following the suggestions of you lot, and then we could send it in as a joint effort. The 25 quid could either go to David and Katrina's computer appeal ot to hire a private mouse detective to look for Duke's missing cat. But I would definitely encourage others to have a go first. Somebody (probably called Paul) could either mix and match parts, or we could send in a load of ideas and let the professionals do as they see fit. Whatever happens I think it would be a shame to let this oppurtunity pass by. I shall sustain a huge beamer if we actually pull it off, so to speak. Does anyone (Katrina?) actually know the dates of their formation and so on? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: Britain's luckiest guy.
by MWaggner＠aol.com 11 Nov '97

11 Nov '97

I heard a conversation in a CD shop recently to the effect that a radio station in Danbury CT, USA had a vinyl copy of Tigermilk -- when this woman went in to tape it, it was missing from where it had been the week before. So we can assume there is a person of dubious honesty with a copy somewhere in Connecticut. That same CD shop had 3 copies of Tigermilk, but had no idea who B&S were nor what it sounded like as they had never played it (because then it has to go into the "used" bin). Once IYFS came out, there was a mad search to find the Tigermilks, but they were, alas, gone... Me, I blame it all on the fact that we have really crappy commercial radio here in the states, and never get to hear anything wonderful when it's brand, shiny new. If radio was worth it's salt the DJs would be looking for new songs to introduce us to rather than beating the same old stuff to death. B&S are only played semi-regularly on one station in this area, and that's only on Sunday night (WNEW-FM on the Vin Scelsa show). Although one day I ran out to the bank from work, and when I was leaving the drive-thru "The Fox in the Snow" came on WFUV from Fordham University -- it was so wonderful to hear it while driving that I had to drive around the block and go back to the office via the scenic route to hear it all. And my son played them regularly while interning on Fairfield University radio this summer -- but at 100 watts, it was hard to pick them up outside a small circle of friends. on and on............... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: Britain's luckiest guy.
by leo sanrio 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

Because he hasn't got round to it yet and is probably too shy too divulge the information, let me tell you all that NICK FORGACS of London England owns 2 copies of Tigermilk and is about to buy a third. One has never left the sleeve it was purchased in. Take a bow Nick! Neither are for sale. xxxxxxx will 'i know what people say, im a heartbreaker, thats just my way.' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: stuff
by Caz 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

>By the way, and I hope nobody minds me mentioning this, but the >programme >I was working on was called The Adam and Joe Show and the second >series >returns on November 22nd 11.00pm on Channel 4. Its really funny and >Adam >likes Belle and Sebastian, especially 'Expectations' and puts it on all >his compilation tapes. ooh, cool. I loved that programme. I found an episode on tape the other week (the one with Neil Hannon in the Vinyl Justice bit) and it was even better than i remembered. >>the internet movie database will let you search for >>birthdates. 16th january is given by: >> >>http://us.imdb.com/M/on-this-day?day=16&month=January >> >>and turns up kate moss, john carpenter (and about 50 or so >>others). it'll also show you deaths and marriages and films >>that opened: the apartment (one of my favourite films) >>opened (albeit in sweden) on your birthday in 1961. >> >>andy >>sat here, bored, waiting for email... > >I've just done that for my birthday 24/ 5 / 77 and it turns up >libby kennedy from neighbours and eric cantona Least it was people you'd heard off...the 2 andy mentioned were the only 2 on my list i'd ever heard of, just about. Although ginger rogers did get married. >I've just done 3/1/79 and got nothing. Luckily,I know who I share a >birthday with. Unfortunately,it's Michael Schumacher. Do not slag. The bloke is the best driver F1's seen in a long time. > They had a song >called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so did They Might be giants, but thats entirely beside the point. In fact my whole message is alarmingly off topic. Must fix this. In a minute...i've got a review from a magazine called Magnet but i refuse to post it until i've read all the digests i've got, in case someone else has. So. Just be patient. >3) i'm lovely friends with a)Chris Nettleton in the Nubiles. and b) ~>with David Ryder Prangly from Rachel Stamp (anyone ever heard of >either?) Christ, my flatmate's a MAD Rachel Stamp fan ever since she saw them at T in the Park in the summer... don't like them too much myself. But his hair is cool... >WOW!!!!!! What a fantastic idea. Belle & Sebstain in a cathedral!!!!!!! >It >would sound amazing. just acquired a playstation and thanks to the funky audio CD options i can now find out what B&S sounded like in a church. And the answer is...shit. But that might just be the playstation. Right. Have now trawled through all the digests for the past week (see what happens when you get ill?) and haven't seen the review. So i might as well post it :) from Magnet magazine sept/oct 97 Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister those in the know swear by Belle And Sebastian, a soft-spoken seven-piece combo from Glasgow. Given the band's favorable notices in the U.K and U.S. press and its ascent on the college music charts, cynics might expect the worst. Well, just forget all that - If You're Feeling Sinister is a clever, timeless record to get enthusiastic over. Starting with any number of reference points (Bob Geldof, Lou Reed and Ray Davies), Belle And Sebastian constructs meditative yet frisky soft-pop numbers punctuated by swells of cello, violin, sax and piano. "Seeing Other People," which features snappy piano overtones that ofcould have been played by Schroeder in Peanuts, demonstrates singer/ songwriter Stuart Murdoch's wit and nostalgia: "We lay on the bed there/ Kissing just for practice/ Could we please be objective/ Case the other boys are queuing up behind us." There's too much Morrissey for comfort in the not-as-melancholy-as-it-sounds "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying" which finds Murdoch claiming "Nobody writes them like they used to/ So it may as well be me." Expect many more conversations throughout 1997, particulrly when music types compose their year-end top-10 lists. John Elasser So there you go. it sounds very familiar...never mind. love and stuff caz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: GIGS !
by Katrina＠Jeepster 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

Tim Jones wrote: > > Have you any idea when or where tickets are going on sale yet ? Oh, > and how > much ? To everyone who has mailed the list and Jeepster re the Manchester gigs: Ticket prices and outlets will be divulged later this week, as we are organising a mailout that both the internet & snail mailing list will get simultaeneously. I am hoping that the announcement will be Thursday or Friday of this week. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: finding records and things.
by Claire Timmins 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

Well I'll have you know tht it has been a exciting week for the kids in Ireland's fair city. Firstly I got an email from Stuart D saying that they would love to try and play over here. Then, I went into Hmv who checked the computer system and this time info on B&S appeared so they ordered a copy of 3..6..9 for me. Phew. Supposedly the distribution over here is very low. Then, I went into Comet records and there staring me in the face was IYFS, so for nostalgic reasons I had a look at it. To my surprise tucked away behind it was the 12" of 3..6..9. Wow! Unfortunatley purchase of the 12" wouldn't have been beneficial due to fact I would probably have to wait until to Xmas so I could play in on my record player. Also, in the event guide (free newspaper stylee thing, like The List but so much smaller and cheaper) there was an interview with Teenage Fanclub. The reporters talks of the great bands from Glasgow: The fanclub, Pastels, Primal Scream and Belle and Sebastian. Then whoever he speaks to from the fanc' refers to B&S as an example of the best music to come out of the city. Not bad for a bit of publicity. Hopefully this will help as nobody here really seems to know them. Well I just thought that I would enlighten everyone on the bands progress in other european countries. Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Bored and Shellfish
by Stip / Blue Music 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

So here I am, sat desperately trying to think of ways to avoid my surrender to the call of labour. I can't even partake in my usual afternoon recreation of playing keepie-uppies with my beachball because I'm wearing shoes today rather than trainers, and by God they make it difficult. That'll teach me. Anyway, I thought I might tell you some of my favourite places to listen to Belle and Sebastian. On buses and trains, especially on long journeys, especially when it's raining. Loads of time to lose yourself without (m)any distractions. There's a pub in Stirling, and the manager always plays your CDs if you ask very nicely. They play the music really loud and it's brilliant to see everyone's reactions when IFYS comes on. Someone always asks what it is. This is the same pub where I witnessed an old guy engaged in a most bizarre activity with a bottle of Becks. It occurred to me as only mildly strange that he had bought two beers at once when he was evidently alone, but I never thought any more about it. Until, that is, he started talking to the brown paper bag he had was unwrapping. Not the usual drunken ramblings and profanity, I hasten to add - his tones were affectionate as he gazed lovingly into the bag. He then took one of the aforementioned refreshments and proceeded to pour it gently into his paper package, encouraging its contents to 'drink up'. After a bottle of beer each (his brown paper 'friend' was by this time sodden, and beer was spilling generously over the table) the guy decided it was time time to reveal the contents of the saturated bag. So he pulls out these two crabs. They were alive, I swear, and he spent the best part of the next hour drinking with his pincered companions, every so often tipping the beer slightly so they could have another drink. Sorry I kind of digressed there. I'll shut up for a while now, promise. Love Nicola xx -- Nicola M Stip / Blue Music www.stip.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Interview extracts
by Keith Watson 10 Nov '97

10 Nov '97

Dylan in the Movies.... "The story is about a boy who goes for a walk in the park at night and is scared in case anybody comes up from behind and grabs him. [Keith Watson] Comes up from behind and "grabbed". This'll be Kelvingrove park eh! Is that what they're calling it now? That's why it says "don't look back", which is also a film about Bob Dylan." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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