November 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: claims to fame...
by princess rachel 07 Nov '97

07 Nov '97

hi i'm rachel, i'm 25 years old, a brunette and i live on long island, that mall filled suburb of NYC. i'm a leo and to make money i make jewelry, so that would make me a jeweler. i live in NY and London, its a glamorous life but someone has to do it. claims to fame...i have loads. i went to high school with the long island lolita herself, amy fisher. i also have loose contacts with joel rifkin...yet another serial killer (what is it with me and people who murder???) umm...as for positive claims to fame, well lets see. i ate pickles with damon albarn in my friends kitchen once while members of radiohead stood closeby (damon prefers half sours by the way...) i watched marilyn manson dance with michael stipe while courtney love and helena christianson were having a chat. i ordered a drink next to madonna and lenny kravitz, walkled to a couch to find my sister and found here chatting with larry mullen jr from U2 about being short. interrupted by 2 beastie boys wanting to talk to my friend and ummm... oh yes...the most important thing, that ginger one out of space tried tp stay in my hotel room at the ramada during the reading festival. like he couldn't get his own hotel room! duh. its true. strange but true. rachel. the glamorous ligger. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: autobiographies
by Keith Watson 07 Nov '97

07 Nov '97

1. Why do B&S thank Alan Rankine on Tigermilk? and is Billy McKenzie's solo album any good? [Keith Watson] Alan Rankine financed the release of Tigermilk or so I believe, Electric Honey is his label... Secondly, no idea, but I too would like to know - it has had good reviews, but then given the circumstances I think it'd be one of these forgone conclusion reviews. 2. My ex-boyfriend Fraser procured me a "Judy and the Dream of Horses" mug. Does anyone else have one? I heard there were only a few produced. [Keith Watson] Only a few indeed, Isobel designed them. Hope that's of help Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: NYC gig
by princess rachel 07 Nov '97

07 Nov '97

i as well was at the NYC gig and the sessions taping along with my boyfriend (hi JJ) and i just wanted to share my feelings about it and i have to warn all you people that it has little to do with belle and sebastian...and at the same time it has everything to do with belle and sebastian. i am a nice jewish girl from Long Island and my family history is sort of non existant. my family going back about 100 years has lived in manhattan, brooklyn and then long island (which back in those days was vaguely suburban unlike the strip mall it is these days.) after the holocaust our family history was basically destroyed along with the small villages my great-great-great people came from, and the lower east side of NYC has become our history, the place where my family is from. point being here that one day, maybe 60 or 70 years ago my family members went to that synogogue to worship, to socialize and to raise their family with their beliefs and all that stuff. so in addition to my amazement of belle and sebastian playing there, where my forefathers once trod (oh gosh this is cheeesy) it was a very wonderful experience. for myself and JJ it was the 4th and 5th times of seeing the band (we first saw them in glasgow in march, then in London and then in NYC...) but everytime seeing them reminds me of the first time i ever heard them. i don't remember the set list. and i think that every synogogue should have disco balls in the ark. remind me to tell that to my rabbi. rachel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Modern Rock Song chords/lyrics
by Dazza 07 Nov '97

07 Nov '97

Just A Modern Rock Song C# C# Emma tried to run away G# I followed her across the city F# She went out to the easter house [?] C# Cause she liked the sound of it She didn't have a single penny She stuck a finger in the air She's trying to flag down an aeroplane I suppose she needs a holiday I put my arm around her waist She put me on the ground with judo She didn't recognise my face She wasn't even looking Laura's feeling just ideal Her horoscope was nearly perfect She's thinking of something to do Cause she is the birthday girl She went out to the edge of town Where she saw me lying in the park She took Emma by the hand They've got a lot in common So I leave them to do what they want And I leave them to do what they need to I'll go and play with words and pictures I'll admit I'm feeling strange instrumental verse x4 I'm not as sad as Dostoyevsky And I'm not as clever as Mark Twain And I'll only buy a book for the way it looks And then I'll stick it on the shelf again Well I could tell you what I'm thinking But it never seems to do you good It's beyond me what a girl can see [?] when I'm riding buses This is just a modern rock song This is just a sorry lament We're four boys in a [???] We're not terrific but we're competent Me I'm full of good intentions Richie's into rock and roll Stuart's staying in and he thinks it's a sin If he has to leave the house at all This is just a modern rock song This is just a tender affair Count three, four, we start to slow Because a song has got to stop somewhere [?] = lyrics I'm particularly mystified by or unable to hear. Can anyone help? cheers Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: seeing other people
by mjouan＠previewtravel.com 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

>Now a question for you all: the song "Seeing other people", I read in a >review a while back that it was about an adolescent gay boy and a straight >girl, but I've gone over the lyrics again and again and I still can't >understand where this reviewer could get that the boy was homosexual. Am I >missing something here? Or is the reviewer just off in the deep end? i can see it. it depends on who you consider the narrator and who you consider to whom the narrator is singing. >We lay on the bed there >Kissing just for practice >Could we please be objective? >Cause the other boys are queuing up behind us above, it could be a boy singing. let's say he's singing to a girl. they other boys are allegorically lining up to see both of them. >A hand over my mouth >A hand over the window >Well, if I remain passive and you just want to cuddle >Then we should be ok, and we won't get in a muddle >Cause we're seeing other people >At least that's what we say we are doing it seems that the narrator is confused about who they really like and what they are doing. >How are you feeling? >I don't think you can be dealing >With the situation very well >You take a lover for a dirty weekend, that's ok >But when it's over >You are looking at the working week in the eyes of a gigolo now is it my imagination, or is someone else singing this verse? it could be the first boy's boyfriend. (?) >You're kissing your elbow >You're kissing your reflection *implies* he's kissing another boy >But if they don't see the quality then it is apparent that >You're going to have to change >Or you're going to have to go with girls >You might be better off >At least they know where to put it the person who is singing (in the sessions case, is a girl) seems to be telling the other person that if they can't get all they need out of a relationship, maybe they should try going out with girls. but, again, it's not clear whether it's a boy singing to a boy or to a girl. [or a girl singing to a boy.] to ME, this song is about being young and confused about relationships and sexuality. there are some (seemingly deliberate) blurring of the sexuality lines in this song. that is why i love it so. it reminds me of early smiths music where things were a bit...ambiguous. but not so ambiguous that it was very difficult to understand. does that make any sense? i hope so. :) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: registers
by TFertig3＠aol.com 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

I think I may be the youngest one on this list: 15 years of age I live in New Jersey but I used to live in London and Surrey.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tigermilk copies, claims to fame
by Lucy Munro 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

Some of my friends have copies of Tigermilk - well, Ben certainly does, Rupert does (and only bought it in Feb. this year, can you believe it?), and I think Steve might have. The worst thing is that I almost bought a copy at the same time as Ben (rough trade shop in Notting Hill, August '96) but didn't 'cos I was on the skint-ish side and didn't realise it was so limited. When drunk I often cry into my beer about it & bore those close to me. Claims to fame. When I was at Manchester a few years ago I almost knocked Liam Gallagher over in a pub. I was *very* drunk & at the stage where I just thought "oh, pop star" and went back to my pint. My rather more sober friend got very excited and bought him a drink. Oh, and I saw Oasis support Dodgy in the Hop and Grape in 1993, but that's not really a claim to fame, just a co-incidence. Other than that I've hardly met anyone except the odd minor indie type. Though I have got Ray Davies' authograph (v. embarrassing as I could only stutter and look completely foolish). Lucy who may have to go digestive. ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro(a)kcl.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: who needs a subject?
by Kimberly Rivas-Plata 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

Greetings! I'm another new one here and I've been slightly overwhelmed by all the e-mail I've been receiving from this list. But I don't mind really cause it's about B&S. About me...I'm 23 and currently a laboratory researcher (infinitely exciting), but I'll be rejoining the ranks of students next autumn. I don't own Tigermilk (wah), though I do have IYFS and 3 EPs. I won't bore you all to tears about how much I love B&S or how I found out about them (partly because they're rather mundane stories and mostly because I'm sure you've heard it all before) but I will say that everyone I've ever introduced to B&S was almost instantly smitten. Now that's good songwriting! Claim to fame...well, I met Neil Hannon after a show he did here in Washington D.C. - The DC in D.C. the show was touted as. I was the only one in the small audience that cheered when he announced that his next song would be about summertime and all the fun allergies that come with it ("The pop singer's fear of the pollen count"). He looked at me quizzically and asked "Madame, what are you so happy about?" I said that I was just applauding because I liked the song, not because he suffered from hayfever. I hadn't meant any offense, really. After the show, I got his autograph on a fiver (the only bit of paper I had on me at the time). He was a tad hesitant to sign it at first - something about defacing currency being an offense in England - but then gave in and even drew a squiggley mustache on the Queen herself. Oh yeah, I also once met Benjamin Orr of Cars fame at a 4th of July party when I was about 10. He gave me a autographed dollar, but being a kid, I spent it within a week. My older brother was infuriated with me. But what did I know, I was only a kid. Now a question for you all: the song "Seeing other people", I read in a review a while back that it was about an adolescent gay boy and a straight girl, but I've gone over the lyrics again and again and I still can't understand where this reviewer could get that the boy was homosexual. Am I missing something here? Or is the reviewer just off in the deep end? --Kimberly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Slow down!
by Paul Mitchell 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

OK - no more long Sarah messages please; slow down on the claims to fame, partly because some people are taking them seriously; and no more football only messages! Sorry to be Mr Grump but some people are getting fed up with the low level of B&S content and there's a lot of people pulling out and joining the digest or leaving. I mean to make sure this list survives and has some sort of focus while staying fun and if it just dissipates into masses of mail with no focus my server won't be able to keep up and nor will I and the list may have to go one day. Remember: it's run in my spare time and on the equipment of my employer. And if some kind soul down south could volunteer to act as focal point for the London meet rather then everything going out 330 times to the list? You'll probably all hate me for this, and for God's sake don't stop having fun on the list! I still appreciate complete bollocks as much as the next dog... just... slow down! Rotten tomatoes in this direction, not to the list, Paul mailto:owner-sinister@majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The Joys of Mail Order
by Richard Banner 06 Nov '97

06 Nov '97

This is my first message to the list and its in reference to ordering merchandise from the B+S fanclub. Having seen the merchandise available for B+S, which can be found on the B+S official website, I was happy to order a couple of T-shirts. I telephoned and paid by credit card and the process was simple and accessable. Well this morning they arrived(exactly 1 week to the day)and I am pleased to say that the T-shirts are excellent. Why this message? I hear you all cry......... ----------------- Well quite simply - the service was excellent and I wanted to repay the swiftness and reliable handling with a big thumbs up. Anyone with any doubts about this mail order service should think again and lovingly investigate with open arms. now what else should I order..............??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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