December 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: GINGER FRIDAYS IN TORONTO!!
by DALE COOPER 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

GINGER IS THIS FRIDAY! EVERYONE, BE PREPARED FOR MORE UK-INDIE WITH A SOUPY TWIST. WITH ALL NEW PROMO VIDEOS DIRECT FROM THE UK! HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. Other ginger dates include: january 2nd, 16th and 30th. Open letter to the cities sweetest parvenu, Welcome to ginger...or welcome back. This letter is an introduction to a Three-dimensional joy-ride. So it seems fitting to invite you to relax, loosen your belt and perhaps pour yourself another aqua vitae. Long has Toronto suffered the sticky (often mundane) battle of the nightclub. Commercial castles of music are popping up everywhere but beyond the architectural obtuseness, top forty dance beats and Meat-packaging atmosphere there is little marketability left in the budget for substance. Ginger is a new discretion invested in the passion for new UK indie, eclectic beats, sparkling orchestral pop and even some moog pulsations but still vibrating the resonance of the beau ideal past. This night also hopes to pass a little debauchery, shallow flash and designer sneers into the aesthetic of the night. Ginger is unapologetically a vainglorious evening. Some of the bands you may be titillated with include, David Devant and His Spirit Wife, My Life Story, Divine Comedy, Rialto, Travis, the Experimental Pop Band, Momus, Elcka, Lucky 15, Dubstar, Babybird, Olive, Orlando, the Weekenders, Mulu, Ether, Cola Boy, Belle & Sebestian,Peach, Corduory, Denim and favourites include Bowie, the Jam, the Stones,Pulp, Suede, the Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, the Verve, Spiritualized, sometimes Blur and many more. GINGER HAS HER NEXT APPEARANCE ON THIS FRIDAY DECEMBER 19th...1997 Ginger is Djed by Elvis Aristotle and Hosted by Lady Somerset. Bohobird1 also hosts and finances this extravagant night out. Darrell and Nora our appreciations also extend to their efforts. GINGER WILL BE AT THE BIG BOP THIS FRIDAY. BIG BOP IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF QUEEN AND BATHURST. We have also managed to keep the drink prices lower than previous big bop events (orange alert)! 19+/$4....because you know you want to. "Go back to the eras of the highest decorative art and you will find it a time when the workman had beautiful surroundings; for the best periods of the decorative arts have been the ages of costume, when men and women wore noble attire and walked in beauty that could pass at once into marble and stone to be the admiration of all succeeding ages." Oscar Wilde ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Hugh gets a kicking
by Honey 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

Right - time to give out some punishment. My mate Hugh who is coming to Manchester joined the list and reckons you lot are all spotty adolescents - he wants to know when you all get dirty (I told him come along to the chat but he's shy). You'll have seen his weak efforts to leave but he's still on so far hahaha so time for some stick probably - Keith or Peter? He also quite usefully sent out this info re. Mancs if it's not too late, and it would be fun if Manchester residents or ex-pats could violently disagree with him: ********** > > Anyway - re. Manchester. > > Pubs near Town Hall - loads, problem is quite a few are small. However > some decent ones within 5 - 10 mins walk: > > Atlas - trendy cafe bar - actually pretty good. Lots of room. > Dukes 92 - newish pub in old building > British Protection - gay pub but really nice [ Ed: note the "but" - he's a fascist ] > Marble Arch - probably 10 - 15 mins away. But real ale heaven. > Lass O Gowrie - brew their own but not very cozy. Mark and Lard > frequent. > > And for food I could suggest: > > Loads of Chinese round the corner, plus one Thai (Chang Rai) > Good Pizza Express > Cafe Uno - Italian over the road. Average > Upmarket Indian over the road, but not that expensive - cant't remember > what its called but its good. > Mash and Air - dead trendy in gay village. Fisting in the bogs. Food > pretty good. Service shite. [ Ed: ummm ] > > Anyway I know loads of places, although whether we will be able to get > in with 30 peolpe on a Saturday night after Christmas is debateable. > Other possibility is to drive/taxi 2 miles to Rusholme, home of the > asian cafe. There are literally dozens of cheap curry houses (and good) > where you take your own wine, beer etc. Best place to get lots of peolpe > fed. > ********** So that's it. You might also meet BlueBoy, a welsh lawyer, a big-nosed english lecturer and a gay buddhist in Manchester with me - look out for the area cordonned off by the police. Oh and see you in #Sinister tonight, cos, let's face it, Wednesday isn't the meet up day, it's everyday. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Manchester + me.
by Taylor JM 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:54:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Taylor JM <J.M.Taylor(a)city.ac.uk> To: "Taylor JM (Library)" <J.M.Taylor(a)city.ac.uk> Subject: Manchester + me. Hullo people.... ermm well since i'm going to the 2 and now it looks like the 3 B&S gigs in manchester, and have worked out how i'm getting there from birmingham and back to london on monday....ug... (though not anywhere to stay - details of the youth hostel were mentioned but i missed them...can anybody help???) i figured since i have 2 mins at the end of a very mad day on the pysch. ward where i work, i'd better v.briefly say a proper hello, and publicly regret not having had time to read the digests over the last however many months its been.... --------- that was yesterday postboned.....today was slightly less bonkers in the Strauss Nut House, but only slightly less. this morning was however very beautiful. a spontaneous art group that sprung up this morning was accompanied by tigermilk wafting around and pacifying the ward which was lovely, partic. hearing 'making lifesize models of the velvet underground in clay' (which is a bit beyond me) as i scuplted my own little fox(for obvious reasons).... which even ended up looking quite fox like, which shocked even me. Well B&S won over a couple of patients of very differing ages and background, and well,i had a lovely morning listening to the tape, with the sessions/demos ben did me too......top therapy i say :)....and we're getting a music therapist for a bit soon.....B&S will sufice in the mean time. tommorow more chaos ensues with the patients xmas party....60 minces pies baked already......mmmmm now what tape can i infiltrate into the pile of party tapes.....:) so anyway am late for yoga so gotta run, but if anybody can help with youth hostel (details/who'll be there??) or any other suggestions.... and i hope to see some of you on the 27+28th......i'll no doubt be in purple jeans.... and maybe a mogwai t-shirt. i don't know what noise an excited bunny makes, but ermm oh it's been a long day... happy thursday jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: tab for the day
by GUSRAT 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

STRING BEAN JEAN D---------------------------------G------------- I got my fingers dirty at the school of rock D-----------------------------------A----------- Yeah I got my fingers dirty so I took a walk D---------------------------------------F#----------------Bm------- I went up to the country park and hung around till after dark ----------G--------------- Till the girls got home ----------D--------------- Till the girls got home Did I tell you 'bout the one I know, she's on the rag She spent the summer day inside her sleeping bag Yeah she spent the summer day inside until it's time to work And she works all night Cause the girl's all right The girls have got a house that's like a caravan And it's like your holidays whenever you go round And we always have a laugh and then we all get in the bath To save on the leccy bill Me & Jo & Phil' Bm---------------------------G------- I had to leave them in the morning --------------------------------D-- I left the keys around the way --------------------A-- I had to catch a bus I had to leave them in the morning I left the keys down in the caf' I had to go to work And when Jo was short of cash I had to give her some But I didn't really mind cause I was fit for once So she paid the leccy bill and got the shopping and she still had Some for the cinema So we all went out She asked me "Do I need to lose a bit of weight?" And I told her "Don't be stupid 'cause you're looking great" And I call her String Bean Jean because the label on her jeans says Seven to eight years old - well that's pretty small Seven to eight years old - that's pretty small Seven to eight years old - that's pretty small Seven to eight years old ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!!
by Matthew Kellie 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

---------- From: Tim Smith[SMTP:ts@memsolve.co.uk] Sent: 18 December 1997 14:46 To: 'PATRICK VAN DEN BOVENKAMP'; 'IAN HARCOMBE'; 'MATT KELLIE'; 'STEVE MOORE (Amos)'; 'RICH HIND'; 'RICHARD BENTLEY'; 'Stuart Lane'; 'TOM ILLINGWORTH' Subject: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!! ---------- From: Hayley Hill[SMTP:hhill@guillemot.co.uk] Sent: 18 December 1997 14:19 To: 'ts(a)memsolve.co.uk' Subject: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!! > >>> It's the first snowball fight of the season. Consider yourself > hit. > >>> > >>> snowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowball > >>> > >>> > >>> You are now involved in an e-mail snowball fight. Send this to > all > >>> your > >>> > >>> friends and relatives. Have fun with it. Remember in an online > >>> snowball > >>> fight no one gets hurt and no one gets cold and soaking wet. > >>> > >>> So nail your friends before they nail you. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: American B&S fans?
by ByTheSea6 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

>Actually, America does know about B&S. I live in Canada, but much of the >info I've found out about B&S has been thrgouh U.S. publications like CMJ >Weekly, Magnet, and Puncture. Not to mention the NY & LA Times. > IYFS was released in the U.S. by the >Enclave, but then the label quickly folded. I believe BMG, the Enclave's >mother, EMI-Capitol was the Enclave's mother, and EMD was the distributor. Doesn't seem to be any lack of IYFS or the ep's on shelves in NYC, but i don't know if other parts of the country are having troubles keeping it stocked. On a completely unrelated note, we're listening to the new Gavin Bryars cd, The Sinking of the Titanic. It's a concept project, one long piece of music, mostly strings with the occasional single piano note thrown in and a bit of brass. It seems the Titanic strikes the iceberg in the opening minute of the album; then it slowly sink for the next hour. It's quite lovely. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Manchester meet-up
by Katrina＠Jeepster 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

Hello everybody ... ok, it's vote time! I've found two venues in Manchester, which are completely different and both have their advantages & disadvantages, so i want everyone elses opinions please! Venue #1. Is a cafe/bar thingy. They do bottled beer only (£1.95) and coffee and cakes, but no food. This venue would be for the saturday, but it's a little way away from the Town Hall. Venue #2. Is a pub who are across the road from the Town Hall. They do normal pub stuff (drinks/crisps etc), but no food on weekends, and only a coffee machine in the upstairs. They would be open for both the sat ('til 12pm) & sun (til 10.30pm) gigs. There is also the possibility of using the function room on the saturday before 6pm. (ohmigosh, they've just started playing Ride on Xfm ... yipppeeee!) ok, so now it's up to you all! could people either mail me or the list with their preference, as well as what times you think would be appropriate to meet-up, considering doors are at 7.30pm? let us know what you want boys & girls! cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: American B&S fans?
by Angelina.DeGiovanni＠v2music.com 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

There are a number of American B&S fans out there. As of last week, IYFS has Soundscanned 11, 090 copies! So realistically IYFS has sold around 20,000 or so in America since soundscan isn't in most of the mom&pop record shops, where a lot of B&S is sold. And even though the Enclave folded, stores have no problem getting IYFS from distributors. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: I shall go to the ball!
by Johnston, John CT 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

Hooray for the matinee! I'm going to Manchester -la, la, la.. Manchester, la, la, la. And festive film fun as well - fantastic! And hot snax, it's all too too much. Is there a Sunday meet-up post-Matinee pre-er...Vespers(?)? ha ha ha he he he and a couple of tra-la-la's.... xx john ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Hazy Pint Drinking Keith
by Keith Watson 18 Dec '97

18 Dec '97

>It is a good album in its own right, agreed, but I think they'd set themselves >an impossible task of following up what remains, in my opinion, one of the >best 3 or 4 lps ever made. Also worth tracking down is the bootleg album >of early demos from 1974/75. This features some fantastic raw versions >of a number of the Marquee Moon songs, including the "legendary" 1974 >Eno-produced sessions, featuring Richard Hell on bass. His technique >might have been primative, but the energy on these tracks is amazing. >If you like early Television, you should also hear the Neon Boys' (Hell and >Verlaine pre-Television) "Love Comes in Spurts", still available on Overground >records, I believe. Oh, and the live cassette (may be available on cd now?) >"The Blow Up", on ROIR records, recorded in 1977, is also worth hearing, if >only for Verlaine's outrageous guitar playing in a 10 minute version of "Little >Johnny Jewel". Erm, no B&S content, sorry. > >Nigel >xx These are indeed good, there's also, if you're interested, a bootleg floating around that's got different versions of Double Exposure and Blank Generation. Plus a couple of tracks that I don't know what they are. There's a different live version of Little Johnny Jewel on this too. V.Good indeed. And right enough, "The Blow Up" is available on double CD now. Did you know... Belle and Sebastian watch Television. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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