August 1997 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Tigermilk / Verve etc.
by Keith Watson 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

I asked Chris Geddes about the Tigermilk re-release just before last Christmas - at that point, it was going to be released soon, however when I asked him again a couple of months later, he said they had no plans for it to be rereleased. My guess for this, although I didn't ask him and he probably wouldn't admit it anyway is that the non-release of Tigermilk is turning them into minor legends - the interest in the record is a million times what it probably would be were it actually released, so really at the moment I'd say it's a good thing although I'm personally not one for the anal "I've got it and you haven't" garbage, anyway I want it on CD as I'll wear out the record soon. I myself have donated a copy of mine to about half of Edinburgh... I'm sure they'll all still buy it when it finally does come out (and I'm sure it will). As far as I'm aware, the next single contains at least A Century of Fakers, Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie and Beautiful (interesting to note that ALL these songs were written at least as far back as when Tigermilk came out). Verve question... You can get the Verve stuff you were asking for easily in the UK - all the initial singles are still being pressed - alternatively, abroad there was an issue of the Verve EP which contains All in the Mind, She's a superstar (short), Gravity Grave (Short), Endless life and Feel. But you're better actually buying the first three singles really, it'll only cost you 12 quid and you'll get more songs (One way to go - live stuff). Did anyone see Arab Strap support Belle and Sebastian last October at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow? It was OK but amazingly quiet, my friend Tanya told me and my pal Andrew to shutup during it - we were whispering. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: america and all it contains...
by J Jackson 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

hi popkids! well, 6 hours and counting...i leave these sunny (ha ha) shores and head to New York City (my original home) for the fun and fanfare of the CMJ convention! something i do every year which is always a fantastic time...jumping in cabs to get from bar to bar to see gig after gig...always ending with few fantastic parties and ooooh loads of excitement. makes a good FINAL and desperate festival (Sort of) after this summer and its great festivals... just a few notes...on getting tickets for the Angel Orensanz gig. i can't wuite understand all the confusion with getting the tickets. i rang Ticketmaster in NYC from London late one night and just asked about the gig and bought tickets. it was really easy for me and can not figure out why everyone has had so many problems with it. anyway...i can't wait to see b&s again and this time in a totally alien setting for them and for some of us! also...if anyone is coming from out of town and would like to meet up or arrange things email me privately CRAFTYLO(a)ix.netcom.com and we can sort something up. anyway...the hour is getting closer and i shall have to run and pack a bag or two i suppose... *i love you all* rachel (and JJ who is flying over on tuesday) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: No really, it is connected with B&S, and T-Shirts and Buses.
by Chris Stack 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

The cockney theory gets my vote. When the Shopper hoppers first came to West Yorkshire, they painted 2 of them black with stars on and called them magic buses, I don't know if this is what Duke is reffering to, but these two magic buses were free, to promote the bus company...so the local grannies would wait for up to an hour until the free bus came, just to save 30p. Apparently once they all waited in the rain outside my mate's house, the bus was late of course, due to the wet road, But the grannies didn't seem to mind, saving 30p is worth the risk of catching pneumonia and dying, for old people anyway, I expect. That P.S.Mitchell E-mail said that they're were over 200 people on the list...bit quiet aren't they? Will I be chucked off now for posting irrelevant stuff? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re:Stuart Gardiner and LLPJ
by Chris Stack 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

I always thought the music video referred to was that Bluet*nes one, where they run down the road and stuff. Whilst on the subject of LLPJ, I read the 'Loneliness of the long distance runner' when the song came out, and the text in LLPJ reminded me of the book I was reading, now I hear they have a song coming out called 'the loneliness of the middle distance runner' so i'm guessing they read the book the same time as I did, weird eh? or perhaps not. CATS DOGS BROCOLLI 2 1 1 The >^..^< 's have it, by a whisker.(sorry.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: About the Verve
by klas.ericsson＠student.jmg.gu.se 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

Hi again! Some of you mentiond The Verve, which makes me glad as I really liked their first singles, although the albums have been a bit disappointing so far. Do anyone know how to get you hands on "All in the mind" and "Gravity Grave", since I just had them on a tape which I´ve lost? Best wishes, Klas "It´s a bitter sweet symphony (but mostly bitter) Tryin to get to a B&S show in New York It´s sold out - and then you die":-( ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re[2]: Sinister: The B&S T-Shirts.
by Charlotte.Hall＠smlawpub.co.uk 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

"When the dereg. happened in glasgow it was great though becaus ehter were load of different busses, and we had old London busses too. My favourite was the 'Magic Bus' line (I kid you not!)." I worked in Glasgow Royal Infirmary as a domestic one terrible summer and I took comfort from the fact that a bus with "Wee Kirkie Bus" written on it used to go by - was it on its way to Kirkintilloch, can anyone tell me? PS I like this bus theme - you won't get it on many other mailing lists. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sinister: The B&S T-Shirts. Author: duke of harringay <tangent(a)mail.zynet.co.uk> at ~ITPS-INTERNET Date: 28/08/97 09:41 Chris Stack wrote: > This is sort of connected with the recurring > theme thing. At first I thought the Bus design > on the shirt was because so many of Belle and > Sebastian's songs feature this mode of transport i figured this was the reason too...i know Stuart certainly did (may still have) an almost fetish about travelling around in buses. i think the cockney theory is funny though :-) me, i like the buses that are small and race around Exeter, although since Stagecoach bought the business it's gone downhill :-( When the dereg. happened in glasgow it was great though becaus ehter were load of different busses, and we had old London busses too. My favourite was the 'Magic Bus' line (I kid you not!). Coaches however i do not care for since i am too tall to sit in one comfortably for more than about ten minutes. school in four days and counting... the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent(a)mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by John Stuart 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

>Come on, show of hands: dog or cat? CAT, most definitely a cat. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re[2]: Sinister: re:Galaxie's idea.
by Charlotte.Hall＠smlawpub.co.uk 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

great idea - I haven't heard "Mattress of Wire" for years... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Sinister: re:Galaxie's idea. Author: duke of harringay <tangent(a)mail.zynet.co.uk> at ~ITPS-INTERNET Date: 28/08/97 09:57 > want it cos it's rare) could have a copy, and > still act all smug when B&S become really famous > and the price of Tigermilk rockets. as far as i can tell the price has already rocketed... someone posted here about a friend who paid �200 for a copy??!! i don't have a vinyl copy myself but it doesn't bother me at all really (this is maybe a new phase in my life where i don't get uptight about records i don't own?). i have a couple of tape copies, one on mini-disc (thanks John! did you like Felt?), and that suits me just dandy. i actually like the idea that they NEVER re-issue it, or that they do the perverse thing and re-issue it only when they are rich and bloated and playing Las Vegas and everyone has all but forgotten about their obscure roots. Kinda like if Roddy Frame were to allow his old Postcard tracks to be re-issued... we can dream. the duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent(a)mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Arab Strap
by Alan 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

it is by the verve, who are now in massive trouble because of the string sample, taken from an orchestral version of a rolling stones song...they will not get any royalties off the sales and stuff 'cos the bloke who owns the rights has said "NO WAY"...lovely business the music business...ironic really, the lyrics being "you're a slave to money then you die..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: B&S: the Bathers connection
by Charlotte.Hall＠smlawpub.co.uk 28 Aug '97

28 Aug '97

A while ago someone asked about The Bathers who played with B&S at Kelvingrove Park. They are worth checking out although they're not really like B&S at all. They've also been around a lot longer. Their best album is called "Sweet Deceit" which is, without hyperbole, a masterpiece. Chris Thomson, the lead singer, started out some time ago in a band called Friends Again who I think were on the renowned Postcard label (circa 1982??). The Bathers had a brief incarnation as Bloomsday (James Joyce connection) and got into the fringes of the charts with "Strange Honey". They're one of those bands who always almost get famous and they've played a series of legendary gigs mainly in Glasgow and Edinburgh. They recorded some songs with Liz Frazer of the Cocteau Twins - the best of which was "Angel on Ruskin" IMO. She also appeared with them at one gig in Glasgow. If you buy "Sunpowder" you can hear it. Apparently they were pretty good at Kelvingrove but their live performances can be patchy - shades of Pink Floyd at Cottiers last year! C. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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