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Sinister: As big as the Cardigans?!?
by Landmine9＠aol.com 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

A faraway friend mentioned the other day that he believed Belle and Sebastian would be as big as the Cardigans soon enough. I can't really see this happening. The Cardigans have a dancey aspect that makes them more accessible to a wider audience. I have heard from more than one person that B&S are "depressing," thus destroying any mass appeal they might have. I have even played them for a couple of people who I was certain would like them, and they just kind of shrugged. Even the friend who likes Simon and Garfunkel and does speed didn't like them. What do you think? Are they movin' on up? And what kind of effect will their rather odd way of dealing with press effect it? michael ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
by Landmine9＠aol.com 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

Probably my favorite stretch of lyrics on IYFS is the last few lines in "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." "This is no declaration, I just thought I'd let you know goodbye" Said the hero in the story "It is mightier than swords I could kill you sure But I could only make you cry with these words" Just wondering if these were actually taken from "some old story" or if he made them up himself. thanks michael ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: As big as the Cardigans?!?
by Landmine9＠aol.com 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

Well, what I meant by "as big as the Cardigans" was mainly: MTV popularity (buzz clips, reports by Loder on the possibilty of a Tigermilk reissue, etc.) and radio popularity ("coming up this hour we've got Bush and the new one from Belle and Sebastian 'I Just Love Buses'"). I have no doubt that B&S will be recognized for what a great band they are (and one day, were). That is largely the case with VU and Joy Division nowadays. People "in the know" know these bands, but your average music listener doesn't (he may have "heard of them"). But they do know the Cardigans. And, yes, they will probably be forgotten as soon as MTV forgets them. I don't really know anything about Pulp, but then I have a short attention span. I think they may have been largely a UK phenomenom. (I hope I am not putting my foot in my mouth here.) (parenthetically "yours") michael ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Belle and Christianity
by galaxie 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

J.P. Ord wrote > I see "If You're Feeling Sinister" as being a very cynical, > anti-religion song and so was surprised to read Stuart Murdoch declare > his faith, and the fact that he lives within the confines of a church, > in a recent Melody Maker interview. It's the 90's and everyone is a cynic, but maybe he really meant it. I regard Murdoch as a different character, as someone who got tired of keeping that casual/cynic posture that is so dear and common practice among too many these days. But it's my imagination, and if I met him, it might melt or fade. Cecilia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: CMJ festival.
by ben ferneyhough 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

Just heard on Radio 1 that the Evening Session is covering the CMJ festival thing, and reporting how the British bands fair. They might cover B&S (I'm assuming they are going to this CMJ thing !). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Y'know; Religion, and God and stuff.
by A Lad Woven In Slur 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

Re: Writer's upbringing: > I doubt he had a Catholic upbringing, because he says: "the vicar or whatever", unless he was a > rubbish Catholic who didn't know much. Weeeelll.......actually there is an inaccuracy in that bit; we are told that Hilary went to the *Catholic* church, but then has intercourse [shut up] with 'the *vicar* or whatever'. It's likely that they realise that you don't have Catholic vicars - and thus they add 'or whatever' to detract from the mistake. And it fits, anyway; I don't think this necessarily means the writer is not Catholic......... And, by the way, the couplet, 'Hilary went to the Catholic church because she wanted information; The vicar, or whatever, took her to one side and gave her confirmation' Is actually very clever and true-to-life. In fact, it's so perceptive I would guess that the writer has been in the situation [as, indeed, have I] - and thus has had a Catholic upbringing. * * * * * * * Andrew O'Sullivan aeos(a)dial.pipex.com http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/osullivan "Nobody knows the way it's going to be" * * * * * * * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: The B&S T-Shirts.
by A Lad Woven In Slur 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

> hate to be boring, but isn't it a tour shirt? --hence possibly bus > design. I think it actually just goes back to the fact that at least one of the band has a thing about buses.......and are we not told at least twice [once certainly, on the inside of '....Sinister'] that Stuart was at one point a bus driver [Ha ha!!]: 'We had a mutual agreement; they treated me like shit, I drove past their stops'. * * * * * * * Andrew O'Sullivan aeos(a)dial.pipex.com http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/osullivan "Nobody knows the way it's going to be" * * * * * * * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: stuart and the pastels
by Andrew Dean 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

there was a loud clang. turned out it was the duke dropping names: 8) >i heard a story from a reputable source that goes >like this: There was a party being held by, i >think, Stephen Pastel, at which were assembled >various pop personages and other glasgow >hipsters. dum de dum. i had an email from sarah a couple of months ago and the address she gave me to reply to was john smith's bookshop in glasgow. isn't this the one where mr pastel also works? actually, the pastels comparison may be better than the smiths comparison - the pastels have been plugging away for years loved by many and unknown to many more. oh, you can ignore the hundreds of lineup and label changes though. and nobody answered when i asked whether 'songs for children' that was mentioned in a list of upcoming songs was a cover of the pastels track. does anyone know? and just why has glasgow produced more decent bands than you can shake a whole bundle of sticks at when edinburgh hasn't? and whilst we're here: grass. just why is it green? andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: success for B&S
by Stuart Gardiner 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

About ten years ago, there was a band. Highly intelligent, both on and off the lyric sheet, they sang about the less glamorous side of real-life, which most bands wouldn't touch on in their songs. They'd released three albums on a small indie label based in a large provincial city. Their music was completely out of step with the mainstream at the time. They built up a sizable cult following, but were largely ignored by the general public. Nobody thought they had the remotest chance of making it big. Sounds familiar? Well this particular band were (and still are, unless I've missed something major in the music press) called Pulp. And we know what happened next. There is always hope for B&S... Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: stuart and the pastels
by AEHering＠aol.com 29 Aug '97

29 Aug '97

The Duke wrote ... >i heard a story from a reputable source that goes >like this: There was a party being held by, i >think, Stephen Pastel, at which were assembled >various pop personages and other glasgow >hipsters. Lois Maffeo was there also... So >Stephen and Lois were playing some songs on >guitars, and because they were hip everyone was >going 'yeah, cool' and being sycophantic >apparantly. Thanks for refreshing my memory ... is there a chance that your reputable source is called Jennifer R****** ? I'd love to get in touch with her again ! Besides, Stuart used to have a recording of this or some similar party ... unfortunately he lost it. >ANyway, then Stuart played some of >his own songs, and everyone (including Stephen and >Lois) were looking really embarrassed and shifty, >looking out the window, whatever, just not into it >at all. Hmmm ... I'm still wondering about the reasons for crediting Stephen McRobbie on the latest album ... and about Stephen's more recent evaluation of B&S ... >So just so you know, there was a time >when Stuart and his songs were not loved by the >people of Glasgow... never mind anywhere else. Couldn't be more truthful ... five people coming for his first gig with a "real" band (that is, accompanied by two other guys) in '95 ... for the books ... a corner pub somewhere near West Princess Street ... wasn't it called the Cava ? Can't remember ... Perfection As A Hipster ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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