November 1998 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: i haven't seen dundee - yet
by Paul Laird 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

Sam Norman said, >please tell me that dundee isn't that grim. There's a joke down here in the Lothians that goes something like: 'I told my girlfriend to kiss me where it smells, - so she took me to Dundee!' hope I'm not putting you off Sam. The Lairdster. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: We're trash, me and you...
by Martin Horsfield 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

After the success of my 'what is/was a causal?' post, I've now decided to turn my attentions to Jessica's question of whether trailer trash exists in the UK... Well, indeed there are a great deal of mobile-home parks dotted around Britain, though the people within seem like OK sorts (ie, not gum chewing, cop murdering, bail-bond dodgin' Juliette Lewis types). The true breeding ground for Brit white (and indeed black) trash is in the old council estates. These were built up after the war as cheap, municipal housing, often with very lofty, 60s design ideals which made them horrible to actually live in. These days, the local councils appear to have washed their hands of estates like this, and left them to be run by housing associations - non-profit making bodies who get the rent back in subsidies from the government, and hence don't give a monkey's whether the people living in their properties can actually pay rent or not. With unemployment still rife, some of the punters on these estates live a very hand-to-mouth exisistence with a lot of honest thievery, dealing and prostitution among the older generation, and crime just for kicks among the youngsters. With local councils concentrating more on developing retail parks, the churches being driven out and the police understandably at a distance, these areas (and every town in the UK, north and south, has one) have fallen into appalling neglect. Anyone who wants an indication of how grim underclass life in the UK really is might want to read Nick Davies' excellent book,'Dark Heart'. US trailer trash has always made for good cinema for us voyeuristic Brits but it's depressing that their British counterparts are now being similarly exploited for so-called 'feelgood' movies like 'Brassed Off' and 'The Full Monty'. Though there is warmth and humanity among the people of Britain's estates and many good stories to be told, glamorising and fetishising such adversity (and Suede are culpable here, 'The Beautiful Ones', indeed) is pretty distasteful. The relentless neglect of these areas of the UK is nothing short of shameful. And they don't take kindly to shoegazers either, in case you were wondering. love, Martin Horsfield, northern scum +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: types of music
by Vanessa R. Siegl 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

sorry really sorry I believe I just sent a blank mail to the list ...the keyboard here in the library is really tiny I must have hit the wrong button ... I also appologize for any spelling-mistake as I might not get to check ... >I just find it daft to think that people can't like two different >types of music, or three, or nine or whatever! Yes I definitely agree. Personally I am the most narrowminded person you can imagine though .... I only like music with a nice/anthemic/mellow melody ... with not too much beat to it .... glam but not too rocky .... music that is not throwaway hitradio stuff ... .... has great lyrics ... I must like the band or rather the people in the band ... I mean the bands I like ARE diverse ... in some ways ... but they allfit the above description I am not into any harder stuff especially techno freaks me out ... *sorry* still I do envy and respect people with a broader horizon but I am not like that ... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950(a)uibk.ac.at _gapminder(a)yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: TRENT
by gateau du wizz 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

did anyone catch DARIA on sunday on channel 5? two *trent* appearances!! actually i think i now know what arms of sex look like. why can't trent be real? no fair! lady penelope, gateau du wizz _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: LONDON MEET - nov 29th / chez lady p
by gateau du wizz 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

dawhlings! jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren..." didn't that just make you want to go "YEAH!!!"? oh the tiny yet hugely significant triumphs of fellow listees!!! brings a warm glow to my hot chocolate tummy and hungover pounding noggin. NOW....mark casarotto has been puttin' the heavies on the london listees for a possible venue for the next meet up. well if you are all prepared to trek south to glamorous brixton on november 29th we can have an advent sunday meet up at chez lady penelope. shall we say after 2pm until 11pm (it is a school night afterall)? details are: 77 holmewood gardens, brixton hill, london sw2 3nb. m: 0370 597202 t: 0181 671 3989 (sunday only - i'm never in) chez lady p is located at the top of brixton hill. from brixton tube take any bus (45, 133, 159, 109) from the furthest two bus stops to the left of the exit (beside pizza hut and barclays bank). get off the bus at the first stop in zone 3 (or the last stop before the south circular road junction) and take the first left (holmewood road). keep going straight and this leads to the gardens...no.77 is in the right hand corner beside the swings...we have an appropriately green door. gifts of gold frankensense or mhyrr are not necessary but if you could please bring some drinks and nibblies - that would be sooooper. (linda, we have a cement garden so croquet will be a tad impossible....however we have swings and things at the graden in the front). has anyone got a twister set they could bring? (half serious). i plan to serve mulled wine to provide relief from the harshness of these artic conditions we poor london glamour pusses must suffer. if anyone has a sneaky advance pre-release copy of the new ep please can you bring it along coz i am *dying* to hear it and my workstation won't allow me download the liquid audio player (bah!)...ditto any video action. please rsvp me privately so i can get an idea of numbers... so i hope to see you all soon. guitars and voices at the ready...i also think we should hold a vote on who indeed has "arms of sex". i am curious to see what an arm of sex looks like. *mwah* dawhling *mwah* / ~mosh~ dawhling ~mosh~ lady penelope, gateau du wizz _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Student life and eighties movies
by Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

Someone wrote yesterday about why life is not as perfect as movies, especially as romantic comedies in the eighties. These films taking place in American Universities have ruined my life, you know. When I was eleven or so , my friends and me used to spend weekends watching some of those in the video and commenting later how cute Andrew McCarthy was ('Pretty in Pink ', for instance)or how swoony Rob Lowe was ('St Elmo's fire') When I first arrived at Uni, I had an inconscious and subtle feeling that my life would become like theirs but I never found any ALPHA DELTA EPSILON sororities , never some popular but sensitive guy who finally discovered me as his perfect 'significant other' apart from being his best mate and sharing his love for music and basket...I never was very fond of basket,indeed. And after one year at the Science Faculty I realised it was not going to happen.Was it because of grunge, was it because we were not in New England but in Madrid,was it because of not being 'ginger'? Someone sensible told me the truth : that student life only exists in Hollywood screenplayers sick minds. ANyhow, isnt Scream a sort of hilarious revival of eighties horror movies? Why cannot we have a revival , though a hilarious one, of universitary romantic comedies ??? And Belle and Sebastian would be a perfect soundtrack for the day the guy realises he has been such a git dating that curvy and brainless peroxide blonde and rushes in a bike , has a crash and finally confesses his love to the red /brown haired, shy and bitten nailed girlie in hospital. He would be a leftie, of course, and there would be some scene of both of them playing with a fox in the snow. I am just going to run to get the copyright ! XXXXX Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: CD player
by GaoBest＠aol.com 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/21/98 08:58:36 AM, C.Wyplosz(a)lse.ac.uk wrote: <<In my CD player: Beatles, the white album. Sorry, I just felt like telling everyone.>> hey, so what else is everyone listening to? right now i'm listening to Can - some bootleg CD called "Radio Waves" that i found for $8.95 in new orleans before that i was listening to Barbra Streisand - Greatest Hits Volume 2 (always my favorite Barbra album, ever since i first heard it in 1979) and before that was Blue system, their awful Obsession CD (mind you, almost everything Blue System/Bohlen do is just retched) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: You can pin beanie baby heads to the walls of office cubicles
by GaoBest＠aol.com 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/20/98 08:52:15 PM, csomeone(a)hotmail.com wrote: <<If Belle and Sebastian ever play live in SF, let it be at Bimbo's. Great atmosphere, really good vibes, better than the fillmore (which has a funkier, older 60's thing, going on) and slims, yeah? >> No! If they come to SF, let it be at Bottom of the Hill! much more preferred... even if the stage would be a bit tight for 8 people :-) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Re: Sinister: Introductions all around (mr dean)
by GaoBest＠aol.com 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/20/98 03:53:51 PM, tdzF94(a)hamp.hampshire.edu wrote: <<> PS. Thanks to Andrew Dean for taping what he did many many months ago, > I should've sent on an appropriate thank you note ages ago.>> ack is Andrew Dean on this list??? i have to do something, he copied me an Even As We Speak gig (actually 2) but i never sent him anything back, what's his email as i've been feeling guilty about it ever since... does he like Orlando, i do have a tape of their last show ever (ie, with Dickons, before Dickons left)/etc... hrm. mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: carry on regardless
by GaoBest＠aol.com 24 Nov '98

24 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/23/98 12:15:18 PM, TWidmer(a)xil.com wrote: <<<<why can't i be happy being alone, and why isn't that okay with everyone else? not everyone is meant for someone.>> that was a really lovely e-mail.... you're certainly not alone...in fact i wouldn't be surprised if you were even in the majority...>> sigh - now that's made me think of Field Mice's song "i can see myself alone forever" or some title to that effect - i can't even remember which EP/LP that's from, i just remember lisetning to that song on their lsat demo tape or something, and thinknig how gorgeously aching that song is (it's from '90 or so, i think). i know that a lot of people like Trembling Blue Stars or Northern Picture Library, but I dunno, i still like Field Mice the best. sigh. xox mike np - Blue System - Obsession album +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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