November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Re:There's a light for a fox in the snow
by Ivo A P Escossia 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Jess wrote: >I think i've just listened to "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" >seventeen times in a row...i LOVE that song. Mmmm. "There is a light that never goes out " is the best love song EVER Lyrics is a important part of a song. Maybe that's why i am not a huge techno fan. Of course Belle and Sebastian's lyrics are GREAT. Sometimes i don't understand what Stu wants to tell "us"... but, this is ART. We don't have to understand everything all the time.. just love or not. sad lyrics are better, not cause i'm a sad guy or something.[i'm not all the time, believe me] I was thinking about *There's a light that never goes out* lyric this week. I was thinking about how crap 90's bands are too (but this is another thing) I think i THINK !!! :o) well..maybe i am bored. I am writing too many mails to sinister. Bye ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia Ps: Sorry, i know this is not Panic List NP: [Orange Cake Mix] Back to the Island Mp3 file Is there any OCM fan here ? Mick, i know you like. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Fox In The Snow
by Jessica Gockley 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Heather Marie Propes wanted to know: >First of all, what is "Fox in the Snow" all about? Why are this person's >legs turning black and blue, and why in the world would there be a >question as to whether he got paid? Since my name is Jessica Foxinasnow and all, i thought i could give this one a shot. I'm pretty sure the first stanza really is just about a lonely fox, but then the metaphor carries over into the second, which is the one that i related to so much i named myself after the song. It's about a lonely girl, bookwormish and full of ideas, who just can't seem to relate to the people around her. Her friends think she's kind of weird, and she wants so badly to tell them what she's really about, but she's afraid they won't understand and so she keeps it bottled up inside and just lets out a crazy laugh and heads home to be by herself again. My favorite bit in the whole song is the beginning of this stanza, "Girl in the snow, where will you go to find someone who will do? to tell someone all the truth before it kills you?" Then in the third stanza, there's a lonely boy, who goes off riding his bike around town. He's not even having fun, he's just trying to escape society for a little while. I see him as being a bit frenzied, only caring about getting away and not even paying any attention to where he's going. Even when he keeps hurting himself (falling off his bike or whatever), he can't stop pedaling. The singer wonders why the kid keeps just biking around, when it's not like anybody's paying him to be doing it, and it certainly seems like it's more painful than rewarding. The final stanza i've never been quite so sure what to make of. If anyone wants to do a little bit of exegesis with that one, go for it, cos i think i'll stop here. Anyway, the song to me is about feeling lonely and isolated (cos you think too much and feel too much) and wanting to get away to somewhere where the people understand you, but not knowing how to get there. Which i relate to very well. I think i've just listened to "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" seventeen times in a row...i LOVE that song. Mmmm. Jess "When you're dancing and laughing and finally living, hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly" - The Smiths Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: CD copies of 'Tigermilk'
by Jeffrey Westcott 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Dear all, Now i have your attention, you may be pleased to know that Piccadilly Records in Manchester is currently selling 'Tigermilk', and the radio 1 session tracks on just one CD, i can personally vouch for the quality being excellent. After years of listening to 'Tigermilk' on 8th generation cassette, it is great to have it on CD, i can tell you. Thanks for your attention people, Jeff. PS. PR is on Oldham St, in the Northern Quarter of the city. "Don't be a Casual(ty)" >From the keyboard of J.I.Westcott esq. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: French fancies (and not Philippe this time)
by Mark Casarotto 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

While I'm waiting for the booze to arrive downstairs (my enlightened employer gives us the last hour of Friday afternoon to drink beer and eat French fancies), I thought I'd just add a comment or two that none of you will bother reading. Being of the Groucho Marx persuasion (viz quote about clubs that would have me as a member), I am obliged to desperately want to be on the sharlarlar list. Is it good then? I can't imagine being on a list that wasn't run by the sweetest naturally occurring substance, though... I am very upset about not being able to go to Janine's party. I'd like to remind the list that I am available for parties in and around L****n, for nothing but all the Spanish red I can guzzle, and for the cab fare home, I'm perfectly willing to humiliate myself and give the other guests a good laugh. Obviously you can take your chances on me doing that anyway. Back to the point...no-one has yet offered their sumptuous pad for a sinister do yet, so Calumn is going to be forced to wander the streets crying into his bellbottoms when he comes down in a fortnight - come on people, make him feel the warmth of our southern welcome, otherwise I'm going to start believing Fluffy's right about the apathy of my beloved capital... Otherwise, can we start working on a time to meet up in, say, the Spread Eagle (wonder why I thought of that?) when he's down - Calumn, let us know which weekend evening/afternoon you can do and we'll pa-a-a-a-rty, if that's okay by you. I'm sure I did have something to say, but I'll come back with that in a minute. Love, The Devon Tourist Board +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: another dull, uncreative and generally useless post. please delete accordingly.
by kellym＠raygun.com 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Oh, Friday morning. That's a good thing. My car refused to start today and I had no choice but to take the bus. Arg. No funny stories or vomiting ten year olds, just me standing up with thirty other people holding on to a sweaty metal bar for twenty minutes. They did have a "Poetry in Motion" thing on the wall by some guy named Pedro something or other, but it wasn't that inspiring. I like getting into work early before the techno kids get in so I can play b+s... its a good way to start the day. That and a donut. Mmm... donuts. Why is there a social stigma attatched to paying with things in change? I bought a pack of cigarettes with dimes today and the drug store clerk looked at me like i was a leper. Maybe its cos my hands were all sweaty... Yeah, that could have been it. Sweaty change is kind of bad, but even when you pull it right out of your pocket people still give you wierd looks. That and food stamps people get upset about. But I don't have any food stamps so I can't really give you that perspective. Though, government cheese has always sounded kind of tasty to me. Ok, I'm gonna go play with matches. -Kelly Ryan McGuire "I knew it all along, I'd have to write this song To young to fall in love, guess we knew it all along That's alright, that's OK We were walkin' through some youth, smilin' through some pain That's alright, that's OK, let's turn the page" - Motley Crue +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by leslie.chinea＠emimusic.com 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

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Sinister: oh... stuff
by Honey 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Sailors and pirates on the mighty ship Sinister. You've mostly all mostly been *so* nice to me that I'm quaking in my boots awaiting the almighty Honey backlash, just like what Leo Sayer got. I see Peter Miller's started already, but I knew he'd get his oar in. To the 15 people who voted for meeeee, I am flattered, stunned, aroused and outraged! I too would like a gender breakdown of, sorry, from Stuart G, but you can't tell the boys from the girls these days. Anyway someone says the only reason I got all these votes was "the Mrs Thatcher factor" - i.e. "ooo, look at the way she struts about, maybe if I misbehave she'll put me over her desk and spank me hard?". Is it my ankles or something? In spite of all this I know that Ms Fluffy Canderel Sarah truly deserves the tiara, even though she won't lend me her frock. I'm going to keep the Miss Sinister sash for just a week then, wearing it to watch the Nine O'Clock News in my pyjamas, and then send it back to its rightful owner. WeeJay's risking his life challenging a Queen Bee on the sugariness of honey, but he's right actually: there's none so sweeter as the lasses of Preston. Incidentally I really liked "Mx Honey" - does it stand for "Minx"? I'm not so sure about the Jive Dialectized post though - they seem to be multiplying ever since Keith Watson invented them in 1956. It's nearly as well-trod as translating something automatically into French and then back to English again and sending it back to the list. Who could be so corny? (hint: look for "shrub shrub" with Search on the WWW page; I know Peter Milliner will never let me forget). Anyway, I've blown any credit I scraped back here in one fell swoop. Someone mailed the list ages ago telling anyone involved in a tape tree to remove the tabs of tapes they received. I keep forgetting to confess that I didn't, and that I've replaced approximately 60 seconds of Biondino's tape with white noise. I was going to pretend it was Mogwai remixed by erm, Mogwai's Mum, but I'm just not going to get away with it am I? Biondino - I'm really sorry. I'm also dead late sending on tapes so I offer myself up for crucifixion... they're on their way to Thailand now, honestly. Crikey, I had a dream about a horse last night. On to business... -- LIST STUFF -- Thank you for mostly heeding what I begged for in my last mail - most of you are sending in wholesome, wholemeal posts, lovingly pored over and re-read under fading candlelight in wispy nightgowns. Because I've asked to point it out by a few, could you please help readability by following conventions when replying to someone else's mail: o Don't just tack your reply on the top or bottom of a full copy of someone else's mail - cardinal sin number one, which is punishable by having to do a LOT of washing up. It's a real waste of list traffic and 800 peoples' download time so please do a bit of mousework. o Choose the bits you want to quote from someone's mail and take time to format them with a nice indent at the beginning of the line, like lots of people do. It makes it much easier to read, you know where the quote paragraphs end, and if one person can't be bothered, then 800 others have to wade through it. o Don't go the other extreme and read a mail, hit reply, and say "I agree". o Think before you mail back to the list: should I just be replying to the person who sent or asked this question? Does everyone else want to know too? Maybe I should just go and tell my mum? There's another rule I keep leaving out the FAQ: posts to list whose soul content is football earn you a night in the cells. Not that I'm biased or anything. No, make that sport in general. Oh and um.. birthdays.. while it's a spiffing idea to make someone happy when they reach 80 by sending them an email, please let's not turn this list into an offshoot of Hallmark cards: if we did we would get 2 or 3 a day, plus probably ten times that with people thanking others, and asking them what Aunt Connie gave them and whether they fit. If you've sent Nanette your birthday, them I'm sure a little sub-list of birthday well-wishers can be done, all off the list. I know I'm a terrible nag, but it's because others nag me, so please take it in the proper spirit and be of good cheer. I'd honestly rather be in an apron in a fragrant garden serving tea to The Incredible String Band, than being a misery-guts here, but it's worth it if the list keeps on and you continue to like it. But if anyone feels like sending a five page "personality" questionnaire to the list and asking for people to answer it, um, on the list, like I've seen elsewhere recently, think again and see me after class :) -- SOME OTHER STUFF -- Martin Horsfield: > I would guess the stereotypical image of B&S fans is wedge > haircuts, black 501s with turn-ups, cardies or three quarter length > suede jackets and Penguin books T-shirt for the boys, and short > floral skirts, DM shoes, hair slides and woolly stockings for the > girls. That's funny I've got ALL of those on right now. I honestly don't know if we all wear the same clothes. Wouldn't it be funny if we all found out we were wearing the same underwear right now? It could happen...stop laughing, it COULD. We could have an underwear tree - we compile a list of addresses and send one item of underwear on to the next person every fortnight. We wouldn't even have to remember to remove the tabs or anything. I was a little embarrassed to see Rachael's repeat posting of my previous mail from September, primarily because some of the made-up names and circumstances bore an uncanny resemblence to a few more recent things. Can I remind people that it was written ages ago, I love you all dearly, and it's not my fault I'm clairvoyant? And that (again!) I really don't mean to pick up individuals on things if I sound like I am - I only keep saying this because every time I post someone mails me back and apologises for something that I didn't know they'd done, and they thought I was making voodoo dolls of them in my bedroom. It's like that old Ealing Comedy plot when a policeman with a wonky helmet (stop it) gives a criminal a parking ticket and he confesses to stealing the crown jewels. Finally, thanks Linda for spilling the beans about my past; maybe you'll explain to Calum why I'm really called Honey. I don't get named after song lyrics, otherwise I'd be called Delilah. I, and no doubt Chris Leonard, also want to know what Linda meant when she once told me that Rock Hudson and Johnny Mathis "went off and lived together in a condom". I don't get that at all. Mx Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A Question of Time.
by Adrian Evans 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

Jason Brent wanted a footy shirt to piss his mate off. Why be so confrontational ? Not every footy fan has to be. As a Gooner of 19 years now, I can honestly say that if one of my mates walked up to me in a Scumspur shirt I 'd piss my pants with laughter. Not the desired effect I'm sure you'll agree. Chelsea, now there's a thing. Everyone hates Chelsea because they are so bloody middle class and bloody expensive to watch. They are also hated because they take the Branscombe Vale Breweries Ale Cider League Trophy Cup so fucking seriously. A Chelsea shirt would be a good thing. My advice to you young man however, is to go out and join the new breed of peace-loving footy fans and buy yourself an Arsenal shirt. Embrace your friends love of the team and join him - make a tighter bond. Right, you can all stop throwing up now. Charlie Nicholas. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re:secret stars
by Janine Papp 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

ohooooh, I adore the secret stars like you wouldn't believe and I could tell you their entire discography right now. OK I will, if you insist. Cassette-only self-titled release - shrimper they have 2 7"s and 1 split 7" with Ida self-titled CD Geneologies CD alright so I can't remember the names of the 7"s and stuff. bah. they rule. In fact I interviewed Geoff Farina, who is one-half of the secret stars, and is also in the band karate, for the first issue of my zine. He was so sweet, and so intelligent, that I instantly developed a huge crush on him. and... he actually CALLED me once and I was so excited. this is how our conversation went: Him "Hi, I was wondering you had (name deleted)'s phone number." me: "yes, I do, it's (phone # deleted)." him: "Ok, thanks. well, have a nice weekend. Bye." and that was the beginning, the middle, and the end of our steamy romance. ;) anyway I think people who like belle and sebastian would be into the secret stars. they have quiet, mellow, lovelorn songs for the most part, and occasionally there's some tape manipulation and stuff going on. the secret stars are amazing. check them out. right now. what are you waiting for? go! Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: blissxo is now back to tinystar
by jessica 20 Nov '98

20 Nov '98

hey all, just wanted to let you know that my aol "million free minutes" thing is over, and i will now be returning to my usual, non-commercial email address. it's tinystar(a)worldy.com i also have a web page, http://www.worldy.com/~tinystar/ oh dammit, i thought i turned off that stupid encoding thing. can anyone tell me how to do that? i already went up to "format" and changed from rich text to plain text. any other way of fixing this? i know it's going to drive someone crazy. other than me. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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