November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: List crush II - this time it's personal
by Stuart Gardiner 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

Well before I get down to business:- OK, so I had a superb night on Friday at the Rocky Horror Show. Fortunately I don't think anyone I know took any photos of me in my costume (which consisted of some gold underpants and a pair of socks...). I did get a round of applause when I arrived in the queue to get in though for the most daring costume. I actually got some people come up to me after the show and congratulate me on my performance during the show, despite only being in the auduence... (And I managed to get a laugh and a round of applause from over a thousand people for shouting out 'Oh my God, they killed Frankie!' at the relevant point in the performance) For anyone who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about, or thinks I'm just plain odd, I urge you all to investigate the Rocky Horror Show or the film made of it. Go and see either and enjoy the best night out you've had for ages. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now the main point of the message. After the last list crush vote, David and I decided it would be a lot better if it could be done truly anonymously. So he has now developed a script which will automatically take your votes. So if you have got a crush on anyone on the Sinister list, head to http://listcrush.future.easyspace.com/ Points to note: 1. IT IS ABSOLUTELY ANONYMOUS - there is no way anyone can find out who has voted for who. 2. It gives an up-to-date table of who is the most desirable. 3. In case you change your mind, the table will be reset to zero every month or so, and everyone will be able to vote again. 4. If you want to vote for anyone not on the list of names already there, simply suggest their name and they will be added when I get round to it. Please note that some people may appear under a different name to how you know them - a nickname or whatever. I'll try to include both normal and nicknames where I know them - the more information you give me when suggesting someone the better. 5. Sorry about the pop-up which appears when you load the page - just kill it straight away, that's what I've been doing. It came with the web space we're using, we can't do anything about it. 6. IMPORTANT! You can now only vote for one person at a time. If you voted for several different people last time, you'll have to narrow it down to one. Have fun, and get lucky! Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: dirty dream video.
by Thessaly1＠aol.com 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

i liked stuart's idea when he asked if any of us wanted to make the video for dirty dream two. he is actually serious about letting us submit videos? i have a friend who's roommate is a filmmaker and i can get a hold of a video camera. i have plenty of ideas for a video and would LOVE to film them and see what happens! dreaming of a dirty dream two video treatment, jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Dean Park Croissant
by PJMiller 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

It was with great pleasure and solemnity that I received a parcel form distant shores, containing therein a selection of cassette tapes of popular music. Unfortunately my work on the Pinochet defence case has left me unable to do anything other than sniff them so far, thus delaying my triumphal entry unto the great Mogwai debate. Thank you very much, Paul. Does your whole house smell of patchouli oil? Is it to hide the smell of cat widdle, or are you really a couple of filthy leather encrusted grebos? I once bought a couple of secondhand Ash Ra Tempel CDs that smelt a bit whiffy, but nothing compared to the overwhelming wave of essence of rockmonster that came flooding out of this envelope and knocked me backwards. Thank you Linda for the stamp. I'm looking forward to "Dub with Strings" most. Warrander John's video ideas were very nice, but a bit too "council housey" for my tastes, so I've done my own video script, this time without Jobbymen. I can't send it in to the list because it's just TOO RUDE and besides, I've sent it directly to Delabel Virgin France so as to get a foot in the door before you lot. Lesley J will be pleased to learn that Isobel and Sarah get it on big style. It's all very artistic and tasteful, a direct result of my reading of "Blue Movie" by Terry Southern. I freely admit to being a bandwagon-jumping bastard where B&S are concerned, but I'd like it to be known that I've been a huge fan of Lenny Kravitz since he played the part of Sticks in "Get On Board With The Double Deckers" as a child star. I got one of those crazy blank messages from sinister list owner. Am I the chosen one? JORDI: the boy on a bike is riding a bicycle, not a motorbike; to turn the page is "pasar la página"; Mayfly is a species of insect, "cachipolla" according to my dictionary, which sounds a bit rude to me, but never mind. I can't find anything else to correct, it's all top notch stuff. EVERYBODY: Jordi has asked me to send him interpretations of the songs on IYFS, but I'm afraid I haven't got a clue. Perhaps some of you lot would like to help Jordi out with his fanzine. There were some intriguing ideas about JATDOH not long ago, so I'm sure most of you are capable of lending a hand to our man in Barcelona. Je m'appelle Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: Nick Drake & Mojave3?
by ASTROPOP20＠aol.com 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

any B&S fans have any Nick Drake and mojave3 boots? let me know...got a bunch of stuff to trade... check it out http://members.aol.com/astropop20/bootlegs.html thanks NEIL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: jolly roger? jolly rancher?
by Genevieve Wesley 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

Hello dears! ok maybe the list got dull...bot you gotta admit,it shot right back in the last bit there...and oooh ooh ooh especially John Warrander's contributions! those were funny! Peter Funny Man Miller have got himself some trouble competetionn. my goodness,these Manly Men Of The Sinister Mailing List...we've got Big Stu trying on french maid costumes (it's ok Stu,it's a popular costume i think..I got too big for mine tho,I sent it to Honey) and all these 'he's my lover' 'i'm going to watch you with binoculors' remarks...you're worse then this group of boys in my locker bay,EVERY morning...giving each other purple nurples. They need cold shower,the lot of them. Is this video thing a like,real-real thing? no joking,yes? I would love to do that! I am always putting videos together in my head! I think Stuart David should play Stuart David..wearing leather trousers and lots of shots of him running in slo-motion,like those arty movies on Showcase. And you know how with Is It Wicked Not To Care..they had the little bit of poem at the beginning,and then the garden gate opens? for dirty dream..the words would be.. WE WORK HARD ( a pause,and then,appearing) AND PLAY HARDER! and then C+C Music Factory starts up ("Everybody Dance Now") oh wait...oopsy, "Dity Dream # 2" starts up.... but really,i could do a video! It would be very cheap looking,but if the dream is so dirty...you want it cheap-like. those 80's movies are funny i think...but they are so tacky,me and my friends acted all giddy like that in grade 5,not grade 10...I just have to say I liked James Spader in Pretty In Pink...sleazy,but good..i think if she went out with him,and then he dumped her after he slept with her would've been much more realistic situation.. i hate the prom dress she makes! like pink potatoe sack! my prom dress is going to be lovely,a red satin slip dress,no burlap sack wearer am i,no no. there's this other 80's movie that makes me laugh..'some kind of wonderful' maybe? it's got that caroline-in-the-city girl....I always laugh at the part where the girl is sitting in the locker room,in her underwear brushing her hair so passionately..I mean who does that? no-one i know! (maybe honey)i mean, in our locker room it's all sports bras and umbro shorts. yes it's good to like different types of music...i don't like much of the punk music i hear today (heh heh,I sound like my grandpappy!)(that most of the 'alternative' kids at my school listen to) it's jsut fast fast music and nasal sounding boys with 'oh we're so quirky! let's name all our songs Joey Joe Billy Bob and be funny!' actually...I like a lot of church hymns,my father plays music for churches,so our house is constantly flooded with sacred music. i like christmas music too...all warm and fuzzy feeling...I like the top ten music from the 60's and 70's alot more than the 90's,so when I'm in the car I listen to Oldies 1310 on the radio. And I love the Pointer Sisters,even if it's only that one song. "let's get excited!" na na na couldn't you just picture,polite and sweet Stuart Murdoch,hands on his hips saying "I'm about to lose control,and I think I like it." (then ripping of his clothing to reveal leopard print underwear! tee hee) sorry sorry..i'm not meaning to be so silly (and probably bring the list back down to the depths of the underworld with this pointless mail!) but I have monday off! (Election day) and i'm so excited,i just can't hide it. ok i love you lots,be good sinister people! Genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Pecking order
by Linda Kerr 29 Nov '98

29 Nov '98

Keith Watson wrote >Ps : Just to clarify, in case people didn't read the Duke's message >clearly enough - here's a summary - he's got the new EP Just to clarify, Keith hasn't. :) ..Is there no justice? PS Neither have we. PPS No, there isn't. Linda xxx -- Linda Kerr Heriot-Watt University liblk(a)pp.hw.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fashion question
by Steve Iguana 28 Nov '98

28 Nov '98

Sounds rather like a duffle coat to me, as worn by Paddington Bear (a cult hero is ever there was one). Regards -----Original Message----- From: Jamie McCordale <fruite(a)hotmail.com> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; seaborne(a)xs4all.nl <seaborne(a)xs4all.nl> Date: 28 November 1998 22:20 Subject: Re: Sinister: Fashion question > >a pea coat with wooden toggles? > >>Hi, >> >>I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by >>putting bits of wood through loops of rope. >>Thanks, >> >>Koen > > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Fashion question
by Jamie McCordale 28 Nov '98

28 Nov '98

a pea coat with wooden toggles? >Hi, > >I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by >putting bits of wood through loops of rope. >Thanks, > >Koen ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: cooki cooki lend me ur comb
by annastasia saffrone 28 Nov '98

28 Nov '98

i wish to apologize to all... esp. Honey... for being thoughtless and abusing the list last week, because i was too lazy, how rude and thoughtless!!!! i can be that way sometimes... next time i'll check the new archive engine, tx H so it would only figure that my 1st post was an abuse of the list... not a good way to start off... i hope i can make up for it???? my week of silence and list virginity convinced me that that this list is something i would like to be a part of be patient, i'm learning... oh.... Mary Poppins... did anyone else see that last night? could i love that movie more? dick van dyke, what a dream... my fave is when they can't stop laughing and they float around they have a tea party on the ceiling (minus lionel richie) i wish i would float about when i giggle uncontrollably reminds me of another great one, in willi wonka when the boy and his grandpap drink the forbidden soda they start floating and are quite apprehensive about how they will return to earth... belching saves the day (a recurring theme in my life) it has always made me giggle uncontrollably to hear big busting belching... (should have been at my house thursday eve, twas good for such) i would love to float under any circumstances have any listees heard of speed the plough?? the band consists of members from the feelies/luna/yang wu???? its impossible to find but i have a bit on tape and what i am getting at here is that i only have iyfs and tbwtas and would like to have some more b&s to listen to. could anyone help? email me... i'll be willing to provide tapes and giftees including some speed the plough if your interested... well i'm off like a snatch patch huh? i dunno :) she is now, as i speak sitting at the table in fresh new clean pair of drawers. wow, you got to love grandmothers huh! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: split enz (history always repeats)
by GaoBest＠aol.com 28 Nov '98

28 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/27/98 03:32:06 AM, someone wrote: <<Hate to say it but it does seem to be pretty dull these days. The list was much better in the old days, when the fans were REAL and the people writing to the list were BETTER like when Moses used to pitch in with his comments about Stuart's early tracks like "Missed the bus lost my mess" . Liked Martin Horsefield's bit about casuals... etc.>> Right, I don't want to sound tooo elitist, but considering that there have been QUITE a few posts from listmembers whinging about how much better the list used to be and how awful the list is now (probably because of posts like this one that you're reading!), i do have a suggestion based on a real-life mailinglist experience which has actually worked: i'm one of the many members of Lipgloss (Pulp) mailing list who joined Sinister. On Lipgloss, a lot of the "old guard" used to whinge when they realized that they were no longer the only big Pulp fans out there; they weren't happy with the idea of more mega-Pulp fans. I know that some of them got upset when i started to copy "extremely rare" Pulp songs and gigs (i have about 150 pulp gigs on tape) for "anyone in lipgloss" (one of the elitists even emailed me and said something along the lines of "yo'ure letting all the good stuff out! geez! don't do it!" as if it was bad to share the rarer and harder-to-find Pulp tracks with other Pulp fans) - although most also got upset 'cause of how much more crowded Lipgloss due to all the newer Pulp fans who became fans because of Different Class and "Disco 2000" instead of being Pulp fans after hearing the _It_ album in 1984 or "I want you" in 1986/87. There were many posts having more to do with the idea of being a Pulp fan, rather than about how wonderful it is to hear "don't you know" or about watching "Butt Naked" program with Pulp. Topics expanded from Pulp-only to things in general, such as "i'm going to be in kalamazoo, MI for a couple of days, can anyone suggest some good record shops" or "ooh, has anyone heard Belle & Sebastien, they're soooo wonderful, you MUST hear them" or "can someone recommend a Blur album to listen to? I've never heard them but i've heard good things about them" etc etc. The point is this: the old guard elitist members went on to form their own mailing list for Pulp, which had a "Pulp-discussion-only" mantra, plus membership was screened. It seems to work out very well, because on Lipgloss we no longer have to deal with these elitist people whinging about the "good old days" of Lipgloss, and the elitists have their own list where they can discuss ONLY Pulp (even though there is also a lot of off-topic discussion there as well, big shocker!). And fans of Pulp who only want to discuss Pulp and nothing else can join their list (after the membership screening process) and also partake in the joys of discussing only Pulp on a Pulp mailing list. This HAS RESULTED overall in the classic "win-win-win" situation of negotations, where everyone is happy overall, where everyone wins. This is a good situation. No one loses. So I suggest that the Sinisterists who are fed up (with how this list has become) either form their own B&S list where they can screen the membership and monitor the discussion topics, so that they would be happy (and end the "i miss the good old days of Sinister" posts), OR they can petition Honey & the other listowners to expel people like me and the other new<er> list members who seem to occasionally (or frequently, i guess) discuss topics that are vaguely related to B&S (but I guess not COMPLETELY on topic for B&S) or who send posts that could have been answered in the FAQ. Or they can just expel me from the list i guess, so that critical posts such as these can be permanently unseen. Either way, this may result in a "win-win-win" situation that would make everyone happy. anyways, if for some reason i get expelled from the list, i'll forward the completed Tigermilk poll results to a Sinister member who is still on the list (probably one of the people who kindly participated in the poll) who can then forward them to the list. So far the numbers are astounding, in terms of who's paid what for Tigermilk, or what people are willing to pay. I almost fainted when i read some of those replies (thanks to everyone who's replied, and of course the poll deadline's not til dec 5 or something, so there's still time to reply) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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