November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: re: lotsa stuff
by Evan Gregg 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

ok replies ive been meaning to send consolidated into one post: most of these are for old topics but oh well im lazy i dress dreadfully normal except for my hat and my excess of hair, just jeans and t-shirts (t-shirts like b&s, rachel's, dirty three, mark eitzel, blue mountain, scud mtn boys, hayden, and other music people) oh and i spose my long black coat is a bit out of the ordinary and i wear a blue fuzzy (not feel me fuck me fuzzy but wool fleece fuzzy) shirt most every day so thats my un B&Sish fashion dunno why i mentioned it but figured i might as well underrated bands: Vulgar Boatmen almost anyone on here would like them save for any twangaphobes their being underated is mostly due to major obscurity and being too nice for rockers, too old and maybe too country for indie, and too rockin for folk, they get jerked around by labels a bit their album You And Your Sister is a complete classic, including a song called "Margaret Says" about a pretnetious girl "with her hat on her head tilted over her eyes" who uses big words "says a word i dont know right away, she says its hard to pronounce but easy to say" to which the guy says: "and i tell margaret bow bow bow badadum bow bow bow" i love that song the whole album is amazing, esp when in one song the singer starts clapping by himself while everyone else plays, doenst sound like produced indie pop clapping (that like too) its just one guy getting into it has a living room or other intimate setting feel to it, perfect driving/bus/etc music bus stuff: i have a couple bus stories but nothing especially exciting except maybe spending the night at the bus stop after a supersuckers/pansy division show but that wasnt particularly noteworhty either however I just bought the Minders album (ALL HAIL ELEPHANT 6 ahem...sorry) called Hooray For Tuesday, another great collection of 60's type indie pop from the elephant 6 collective, one song called Big Red Bus is very cool and seemed applicable for obvious reasons i didnt read all the bus posts so if someone mentioned this already i apologize i think thats it ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "B&S on the radio...playing songs for children..."
by Arthur Chan 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

Much to my amazment, a major radio station here in Los Angeles (Y107 an alternative station) played "The Boy with the Arab Strap" last night. I was driving home in shocking bliss... Has anyone else here in LA heard B&S on the radio? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: la pastie de la bourgeoisie
by Sam Norman 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

hi i've just been trawling through the archive for the past half an hour (i'm waiting in much anticpation for a party i'm going to tonight) and i think i'm right in saying that no-one came up with a definitive answer to what la pastie del la bourgeoise actually means. i read massvie long arguements about what, bourgeoise means, and where it comes from, (owners of the means of production & marx) but not the song title. i always presumed that lapastiedelabourgeoise referred to members of the prolitariat who had become friends with members of the bourgeois, ie become their "pastie". marx kinda argued i think that even though they were friends that the bourgeios would still exploit the prole. marx definatley didn't use the term la pastie de la bourgeoisie though. ooh i'm vibrating! my pagers just gone off. i've got to go cause apparently i'm late bye! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: vaselines thing
by SPRFNK＠aol.com 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

eugene was playing the show--he went on before Guv'ner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: la-di-da look at me, I'm a football supporter
by Warrander John - FML 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

Hey Y'All, Sunday night had all sorts of Sinister goings on. First off off I found myself in a pub with nine record-shop assistants, prompting thoughts of lovely Genevieve. None of them were very handsome mind so there's no need to be jealous. Then a Spanish football match came on the telly and me being a born-again football fan and Peter Miller being my hero and all I decided to watch it. It was much more entertaining than the Vale. I think the record shop boys were taking drugs. Someone called Joss made a Northern Soul tape for the Tag loon. I listened to that too and it's smashing. Anyway, Mr Mark Casarotto made this too kind offer: >John - I can let you have an only slightly torn "Mad as fuck" >Carter t-shirt for a pony, but better get in quick, it's bound to >go go go Sorry mate, not interested. They don't let us in the church with dirty words on our clothes. And me being a born-again and all. Aristocratic Europeans with silky skills. I'm a renaissance man you know. And somebody who probably works for Ericsson in Sweden made a brave stand with the sentiment: >'The Pastels' are probably the most important cultural >phenomenon of the 20th century. Ignore them at your own peril. These are wise words. Never deny that you've heard them spoken. I'm going to go to Dublin and drink a pint of Guinness for The Pastels. If I'm really lucky, I might even get to drink a pint of Guinness with The Pastels. Does anybody know the phone number of the Dublin Mean Fiddler or a ticket outlet where I can buy tickets? I've absolutely got to see The Pastels you know. I cried on Saturday night. Unfortunately it was on the dancefloor at Smile. I was in my disco pants and Julian put on "The boy with the arab strap" and I remembered Leeds and got all emotional. I was a bit blootered at the time. Oh, and I think Mrs Warrander John's joined our ranks, so it's no more lies and smut from me or it's a smack in the mouth from her. It does mean that I've now had sex with two other listees though. La-di-da look at me, aren't I the horny devil. Hello Mrs Warrander John, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: poetry makes nothing happen (she and me)
by GaoBest＠aol.com 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

hey y'all Speaking of Grammar & syntax & diction, Amelia Fletcher once said that there was a difficulty in using the words "she and me" in a proper grammatical sentence - she said this oct 7 '94 in berkeley and i've never been able to figure out how to use "she and me" in a sentence other than to say "i can't figure how to use 'she and me' in a sentence" or "'she and me' is a lovely song from Heavenly" but i don't think that really counts. so aside from the poetry thing, can someone tell me how to use "she and me" properly in a sentence? ta mike ps - doesn't "silver" and "caper" rhyme, or even "silver" and "fur"? i guess i'm stretching it, but it feels rhymy to me. In a message dated 11/16/98 7:04:30 AM, The Charlottes wrote: << I read somewhere (was it here?) that there are four words in the English language which don't rhyme with anything. They are month orange silver purple>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Seamus and his dangerous signature
by Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

I had noticed lately Carmen's message impact on the list , or better said, on the number of received messages, listees seem to be a bit frightened after her wit and wisdom showing off... Anyway, before than anything, I am in the process of falling love lately with someone that probably like B&S who I met yesterday, but rarely among British citizens, nobody introduced to me.(it was a sort of official meeting day...)and so, I listen to Belle and Sebbie even more fretfully trying to find some inspiration to start this romance somehow, or at least to be in the right mood Senseless, isn't it? What I really meant it is that I cannot see The Smiths ingredient too present in their songs.Velvetian influence is much more visible and hearable...There is no trace of Mozz grim world here, I was listening to TBWTHA at Milton Keynes Coach Station cafe, which could match perfectly some classic Smiths hit,as 'Half a person' or 'Shoplifters of the world ...', and found 'Chickfactor' too sophisticated and luminous to turn out to be a suitable soundtrack for lowlife in province towns. What about my subject? Seamus, for being your first signature ever, I found it really amusing and tender,but don't you think it is difficult to be dangerous owning all the Pastels collection and wearing a bowl cut hair all at once???you would look too cute to look dangerous... Bisous pour tous Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: vaselines thing
by GaoBest＠aol.com 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

In a message dated 11/16/98 10:07:24 AM, Seamus wrote: <<the nov 2 show was marvellous, though to be perfectly honest, i thought that eugene kelley was no good at all, which is a shame as the vaselines were ace. especially the split live cassette they did with beat happening. >> wait wait - what was Eugene Kelley doing at this show? was he performing as support or is he playing with B&S or what? is it Eugenius or just Eugene or did he revive Captain America? also whatever happened to Francis from Vaselines, i still love that band. Although the split live tape with Beat Happening is ace, i think Vaselines were really good in '86-'87, better than in '88 - their Port Talbot, Raffles show is really excellent even if it is only like 30 minutes. ciao mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S on 120 minutes
by Derek J Weisel 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

Hi, I don't contribute much, but i did want to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the B&S video. It was ironic because I was watching 120 minutes with friends waiting for the video, and as we watched we were commenting how almost all videos look exactly the same and rarely even match the mood of the song, ie the overplayed lullaby song. Then the B&S video came on and it was very beautiful and fit very well with the mood of the rest of their music. The black and white photography along with the very smooth camera shots created a very simple and elegant video that you knew had been made by Belle & Sebastian. Making videos that fit a groups music and can be viewed as the extension of a groups art sounds simple but most videos fail miserably. Good Show B&S! -Derek +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Foul Owl on the Prowl!
by PJMiller 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

Dear phallus worshipping pagans, I've just bil to Beenbao, where I visited the famous Guggenheim Museum. It looks like a huge pair of Stuart Muroch's silver pantaloons billowing gently in a stiff breeze. It's fantastic, I urge you all to go, preferably wang dang doodled on top quality acid. I see we have finally arrived at the very bottom of what turned out to be a very deep barrel. I think it's either fuschia or magenta, and I think the effect was achieved by holding one of those plastic trays from a jam tart packet over the lens of the camera. "Tigermilk" is Ice Breaker blue. Who remembers them? They were better than Spangles. I hope I've got the name right. Linda will know, she has an elephant's memory where the greatest decade in human history is concerned. See below for "Tigermilk" joke. Sarah Wheeler, do you realise that you probably deprived us of an ink polaroid of a meeting between two of the greatest minds the twentieth century has produced, Stuart Murdoch and Stephen Pastel? Never mind, it was a good stalk. I'm sure everything will fall into place with practice. There was a poster of TBWTAS in the window of a record shop in Bilbao. Unfortunately the shop was closed for stocktaking (on a Saturday!) so I was unable to go in and force a sinsiter showdown, despite sporting my lovely "SEB" button badge. I would've tweeed that poster into my grubby mittems no problem. They're not used to tweeness in Bilbao. Anything else I might have to say is off topic, and I have turned over a new leaf. Peter In my CD player:- "Tigermilk" by Belle and Sebastian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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