November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: black session and Tigermilk free - 3rd update
by Stephan Hammer 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Ok, here's the list. Try to call in or send checks, or just pick an organisation that will help Honduran kids. Canada 95 St Clair Avenue West Suite 1001 Toronto Ontario M4V 3B5 Telephone: 1 416 920 1654 Fax: 1 416 920 9942 US 155 Plan Way Warwick Rhode Island 02886 Telephone: 1 401 7385600 Fax: 1 401 7385608 UK 5-6 Underhill Street Camden London NW1 7HS Telephone: 44 171 4856612 Fax: 44 171 4852107 Norway Delevery address: Wesselsgate 8 0156 Oslo Mailing address: Postboks 1, St. Olavs plass 0130 Oslo Telephone: 47 815 49500 Fax: 47 22333232 Once I finally get the account numbers, you'll get them, too. Cheerio Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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re: Sinister: grim patches
by Anastasia Signoretta 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

hiya bunnies, ooh, the shoegazing debate is turning into a class debate! or it could do, if anyone decides to take it any further than it's already come. i'd like to say--that is, upholding that british indie kids panning shoegazing and everyone in general aside from americans panning shoegazing has something to do with class issues (as keith m. seems willing to imply, which i'm not sure i agree with)--that this debate is silly. mainly because any issue of class and music being linked most of the time stems from coyly-devised ***MEDIA CREATION***. perhaps i didn't read the nme closely enough in the early 90s, so i can't really comment on the shoegazing side of this argument, but i'd think i can make a comparison...i'm well aware of the whole oasis/blur thing and i think most of you will agree with me that involving class in that whole she-bang was merely a way to get the kids (tm) to make a choice between the two based on *i-don't-know-what...politics? virtue? accent?* not necessarily music, just to sell more records. that's my main point...there are lots of tiny details i can cite here regarding the so-called 'battle of britain' regarding cd formats and prices and whatnot, but why bore you. this *has* however been researched and written up. oh dear...WHAT has the belle and sebastian list come to? i'm going to shut my sociological mouth *now*. always-clever keith w. mused out loud about why we americans still romanticize shoegazing. er, perhaps lorraine can answer this better than i? maybe it has something to do with our *classless* society, eh? (don't answer that.) well, anyhow. i have a good bus story (i should, i ride buses often enough). i was riding to work last wednesday morning very early and of course i fell asleep. this is ritual for me, as i rise pretty darn early and go to sleep pretty darn late, i need all the rest i can get. so i'm resting my head against the window ledge thingie, deeply asleep, and the bus jerked forward...causing the bones around my left eye to crash harshly against said ledge thingie. as i was so deeply asleep i thought i was only dreaming about the pain. i did not wake up...until it happened *again*. this time i fully awakened and noticed everyone around staring at me, apparently at the massive lump now bulging from above my eye. i dashed to work to check a mirror and sure enough, black eye present. i look like i've been mugged, it's *so* attractive. a week later, it's toned down a bit...it's this lovely greeny-purply color, looks just like a nice eyeshadow job. enough from me, bye now. cheers, stasia ------------- Original Text >From "keith m" <keithmcl(a)bignet.net>, on 11/11/98 11:53 AM: keith w wrote: >there was a grim patch in between >with people like >the Frank and Walters on the cover of the NME awww the frank and walters are charming! the grand parade is a really lovely record and their early songs in which they sung so exuberantly about bus drivers and bicycles were great fun:) but than i guess it is true that shoegazing was terminal prior to the gallaghers it being killed by suede rather than oasis. i think the class thing is real though because look at the backlash against blur in response to their background, the UK should be like we yanks and just pretend there are not any classes, we're all middle class:P. keith mcl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: nothing special
by Jordi Trenzano Vilar 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Sorry, because recently some of my messages had been posted twice. Sometimes I think that my computer has gone crazy. I do not know if you remember that I wanted to create a spanish B&S fanzine. The first issue is going to be published according to the release of the "Modern rock song" EP. Meanwhile, I am still waiting for some collaborations. I am now working on translating some of the band?s lyrics. I am pleased because Jack + Hefner will be playing Barcelona the December 7th. It can be interesting to know for Mr. Peter Miller that they will also be playing in San Sebastian (good name for a lovely city). Lordy Jordi. "See how words as old as sin fit me like a glow" (The Smiths) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Voting
by Adrian Evans 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Reid wrote : ~ The ballot boxes are opened and the list crush votes counted. Riots erupt worldwide. Tag, Mick and David Kitchen only get ONE vote each?!! And Katrina gets NONE?!! She provides us with the information that keeps us so closely tied to the band we love, and how much sugar does she get in return? Not even a teaspoon, let alone the 4 cups she deserves. The world is upside down and being shaken for change. ~ I heard on the crush grapevine that Katrina was in the lead on 9 votes some while back but that she lost 5 votes for each cancelled concert announcement during the tour. Kevan "Warty Frog" Cooke Wrote : ~ Still no sign of a replacement Stuart Murdoch pop subbuteo figure, if anyone can help me out could they let me know, as I need one for the national pop subbuteo championships in just two weeks time. ~ You sad sad man. Just use your old Jason Donovan figure and file him down a bit with one of your mothers emery boards. A very precise and dangerous operation, but cheaper than lipposuction. Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: such a good-looking batch of kids.
by Christian Scanniello 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

apologies if this has been posted already but....the video for "is it wicked not to care?" can be viewed by one and all by visiting the sonic streamland website (www.streamland.com/site/index.html) word is that the video was banned from mtv for excessive swordplay....so this may the only chance for some of you to see it. it's nifty, in an album-cover-come-to-life sort of way. queen bee janine, i don't think it's wicked to finally admit to liking IYFS more than TWATTYBUS. i would agree with you, actually. then again, i'm positively wicked. <g> especially, considering i admit to liking tigermilk even better than sinister. from the "not that question again" file, i'm curious if anyone has any idea why b&s appearance on the PBS program "Sessions at W.54" was never aired. was the band displeased with the results or was the network simply fearful of inspiring a beatles on ed-sullivan-esque phenomenon? cheerio, christian, who is quite sure that it his fondness for duran duran, not his relative newcomer status, that is to blame for his lack of crush votes. ;-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: a little smut never hurt anyone
by baggy trousers 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

while looking up some info for my theories of culture class i came accross this, surprisingly..thought some of you might get a kick out of it since smut seems to be the in thing as of late.. roberta ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To is a Preposition, Come is a Verb (Lenny Bruce, accompanying himself on drums): To is a preposition, come is a verb. To is a preposition, come is a verb. To is a preposition, come is a verb, the verb intransitive. To come. To come. I've heard these two words my whole adult life, and as a child when I thought I was sleeping. To come. To come. It's been like a big drum solo: Did ja come? Didja come good? Didja come good didja come good didja come good? Recitatif: I come better with you sweetheart than with anyone in the whole goddamn world. I really came so good. I really came so good 'cause I love you. Really came so good. I come better with you sweetheart, than anyone in the whole world, I really came so good. So good. BUT. Don't come in me. Don't come in me. Don't come imme, mimme mimme don't come imme mimme mimme don't come in me. I CAN'T COME. Cause you don't love me, that's why you can't come. I love you I just can't come, that's my hangup. I can't come when I'm loaded, all right? Cause you don't love me. Just what the hell is the matter with you? What has that got to do with loving you? I just can't come, that's all. Now if anyone in this room or the world finds those two words decadent, obscene, immoral, amoral, asexual, the words "to come" really make you feel uncomfortable, if you think I'm rank for saying it to you, and you the beholder gets rank for listening to it, you probably can't come.2 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What was that mouse called in An American Tail
by Mark Casarotto 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Well, as Tara ('ello chuck!) was so concerned about me and my tales of Nu Yorican debaucherie (I'm trying to work out how to transcribe the kind of strangled chortle that implies that this couldn't be further from the truth) in a letter I evidently haven't read yet, I shall have a go at adding my rather feeble tuppenceworth to the kerfuffle surrounding the New York extravaganza. I wish I didn't feel more and more scared of flying each time I get on an aeroplane. There's a little man with pince-nez glasses in the recesses of my head working out the probability of coming a cropper at 35,000 feet, and ticking off each time I stagger off a Boeing 72/3/4/5/67. It's the taking off I hate most. And that couple of seconds on landing when the plane bounces back into the air, filling my mind with images of huge pieces of machinery spiralling out of control at 150 miles per hour. And, most pointlessly, the fact that in my head the plane has a consciousness of its own, and at some point is going to think "hmmm, I'm 250 tons of metal, glass and plastic. I should be exerting a force of 2.5 million newtons on the surface of the planet, yet here I am soaring 7 miles above it. Soon fix that...". Apologies to anyone of nervous disposition about to go on an aeroplane. Moving onto debauchery - well, I'll keep you guessing...I didn't get offered any nookie whatsoever, and only got offered drugs once, in Central Park of all places, despite doing my level best to frequent all the dodgiest East Village dives and speakeasies. I was astonished at the expense of the city - coming from London, you can usually go on holiday to be greeted by charmingly inexpensive things that would make you grumble no end at home, but New York proved the exception. Except for clothes, of which I only bought one item. How pathetic. Still, inspired by the ravishing Milla of this parish, I did purchase a pair of New Balance trainers which made come over all unnecessary. But enough of this tedium. Let's move onto *this* tedium instead. The New York gigs were unconditionally superb in pretty much every aspect, with the possible exception of Isobel's evident discomfort on Sunday night. Poor lamb. Stuart's Arms Of Sex were a high point, though - that boy doesn't fool me with his softly spoken, timid demeanour - there's a sky-high sexual confidence lurking behind those steel-grey eyes (I don't know what colour they really are, but steel-grey suits my fantasy) and cruel yet sensual lips, and by the look of you lot it's got hormone levels up to a record high...On first listening, it seems like Slow Graffiti is going to be another skyscraper of R!O!C!K!, which is reassuring after the relative paucity of inspiration on Tautbuttocks, and the cover of Turn Turn Turn made me feel very happy and strangely proud of my little darlings. I really, really adore this band, and all who sail in her. But the best thing about NYC was the company of the listees I was lucky enough to meet. I'm only sorry that I didn't get to speak to some of you more, particularly Matthew, Brian, Michele, Minka and the legendary Jonny (are you feeling a bit better love?), and of course all of you that I'm kicking myself for not having got in touch with. But I did get to spend quality time with the delightful Kristen S, who was everything I could have wanted from my very first list crush, and dead good looking into the bargain, and the Queen Bee Janine herself, who is no doubt the coolest person I will ever meet, no contest. But the person who made my stay as fulfilling as it was was the fabulous Anastasia (along with her equally ace friends), who gave up so much of her time to look after me, order me "difficult" sandwiches, force me to try on rather sexy designer apparel, and reluctantly join me in consuming much beer (what the hell is Heineken Dark, anyway?). I'm humbled by how thoughtful and gorgeous you all were, and I hope I get the chance to show you the same level of hospitality when (not if, don't even think about it) you come over to England. So there you go. I was lying about there being any debauchery, but I'm sure my young lady would have had something to say otherwise... Love to you all, The Little Blonde one p.s. isn't the duke's address tangent(a)lineone.net (i.e. without the s) or am I being thick? p.p.s Paul Field, Mr score draws, are you free on the 22nd November? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A sordid game
by Iangstl＠aol.com 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

hiya denisep wrote >>This is a fun game to play when you are going food shopping with friends. If they are holding the basket, trail along behind them putting little things, extra things into the basket such as spam, insecticide, books about beetles for kids, pate etc. (you get the picture) It's a lorra lorra laughs when they could to the check out and look a bit baffled !<< I risk the chance of becoming the list nasty for it, but I will admit to playing this game in a slightly more wicked fashion. I always thought that the point was to do this to people you didnt know. Usually I picked some mother being nasty to her children by scolding them for wanting the frostedsugarpops instead of the wheatgraingranolanutfibreflush cereal. Sometimes I chose the high skirted woman balancing on her silly heels while stretching to reach some organically trendy mushrooms and giving the stock boy his much deserved show. She's an easy target as well since she is usually looking at her reflection in the security mirrors and not in her cart as I slipped a bag of cat chow (meow) or even *no-brand* gasp!!! potato buds into her cart. Ah well, no b&s content other than if I am going to burn for my wickedness, at least I will do so with the sweet sounds of wicked not to care in my head as I ease my feet into the fire. mwah, dawn (who was called dawnie wawnie as a child) np.... miles' agartha (a mighty fine shag album indeed, both discs of it) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: kitchens of distinction
by keith m 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

>So, before reviewing shoegazing and shoegazers become the >last week topic, >has anyone a slight idea about what Kitchens of >Distinction did in the >last five years or so? patrick the singer made and released a dreadful solo record under the name of Fruit, it included the other two guys on the lp in minor roles. dan the drummer has a new band called Epstein, i have no idea what they sound like. a friend of mine who is obsessed with kod, she has a naked picture of patrick above her mantlepiece, says patrick and julian are involved in some new project with an alanis morrissette-type singer and that seems rather frightening. keith +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: cordelia's dad
by aaron tieger 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

cordelia's dad do rock, true, but don't let them hear you say the f-word when describing them. you'll be walking a mighty short plank. === atieger(a)rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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