November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Seven and the ragged tizer
by ETLRDHY＠notes.ericsson.se 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Dear fistees, You saw me standing by the wall corner of a main street, is there something I should know? Cos the reflex is an only child and he's waiting in the dark, but I've got a lovel y bunch of coconuts so lets go down the strand and ave a banaaanaa! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Parrotesque
by Adrian Evans 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

I'm a god fearing twat. As Monday Poem nominee for this coming week, guess which jobbie-head has gone and taken Monday off on leave. Marvellous. My Moment of Truth challenge for this weekend is to find someone in Plymouth with e-mail. Now call me a dunce and all, cause basically you'd be right, but if I found an internet cafe or some such sad hideout of the socially retarded, would I be able to send my poem from there ? Anyways, enough of that drivel. Bill Moss (Is that like oral thrush for birds:)) wrote : in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been crying," but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been crying." i like the 'were' one :) I prefer it as "were" as well because that's how we talk round these parts. In fact there's also a lyric in Chickfactor which leads me to believe that Stevie is in fact a wannabe Devonian. I bet he's got stickers of sheep on the back of his guitar. Christian wrote : oh dear. it's tough to be the new kid. so it seems i've already committed some breach against etiquitte by quoting a duran duran song. i'm sorry...i just couldn't help it. i just purchased the best of collection that came out this week and i'm not afraid to admit that i still love it. eeek...i thought the days of fearing for my love duran duran ended after middle school. heehee. Don't apologise, some of us round here are old enough to appreciate the finer points of eighties music and Duran Duran are NOT one of them, but never apologise for holding an opinion. Oh and how can you possibly talk of etiquette round here when the most popular topic of conversation is womens furry front bottoms and their infections. rebelstrange(a)ldd.net (Lesley J. Miller) Peter, is this your list love child ? Reid wrote : The album cover is a shot of Chris' capture that came after a 4 day chase through the north of Scotland. The look of defeat on his face is really pretty tragic. I personally think it's kind of tasteless that they used that shot for the cover. But that pretty much sums up Belle and Sebastian in a word: "tasteless". You're being fairly liberal with the truth there me boy. I heard Chris's death was as a result of an argument with Isobel outside a public house in Woolfardisworthy over who got to wear Struans pants after she had lured him into her web of deceit and "done him" in the function room with the snooker cue. Have you noticed that Isobel is holding the same instrument of death in her right hand on the inside cover ? Enough of this jolly banter chaps, if anyone does hold the answer to my impending e-mail problems then mail me privately. Ta nicely. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: 667, The Neighbour of the Beast
by Warrander John - FML 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Ello me breetush chums, Yikes! We went to see The Exorcist last night. Well the big hard residents of Chorlton did. Wimpy little ginger saps stayed at home and hid behind their sofas. The Exorcist was very good though. I liked it. Especially the washed-out 70s look and the tense atmosphere. It wasn't especially scary on the whole (well, obviously I wasn't scared) and there wasn't much laughs and the most horrible bit was when they did some medical procedure on that possessed girl. (Very unpleasant. Do they still do stuff like that?) At the end of it all, I certainly hope I never get possessed by an evil demon. Which is I think the message that the film was trying to convey. The icing on the cake was Big JB standing up at the end and announcing to the audience that his least favourite people in the whole world were students. That's what happens when you keep a young man who's just spent several hours in the pub away from a toilet for too long. Then we went to a "Concept". Concepts sell beer and play loud 80s music. They don't however play J-Pop, which is exactly what some club called "Ultra-Kitty" was up to in Manchester on Monday. Sadly, I only found out about it on Tuesday so I never got to go. But it does give me the chance to mention that the Japanese pop kids are probably the coolest and best dressed pop kids in the world. And they all like Soft Rock which is probably the coolest and best dressed pop genre in the world. On the TV front. Well in the coming series of Stars In Their Eyes there's going to be a very special guest. I'm not mentioning names or anything, but watch out for the magic words "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Robert Palmer". Stephen Pastel's coming to Manchester in December. The 11th it is and he's taking along some of his friends and they'll be playing a selection of their favourite songs at "Night & Day" cafe. I'm very, very excited. Have a lovely weekend everybody, Keep the faith, The John PS It's Stuart David +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: phone home
by brad 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

i, too, have to agree that elliot has turned into a pretty good actor. i very much liked "niagara, niagara" and he was in another one i saw with scott from kids in the hall that was pretty good. i can settle this whole stuart/isobel thing right now. when i was in athens, i snuck backstage and walked in on them making a porno. they were going at it and chris was filming them and stuart d. was directing. he kept going "no no no stuart.....that's complete pish. turn her around" and things like that. i talked to stuart d. during a break while they powdered up stuart m's, uh, thing, and he said that he got tired of taking pictures and making movies with words. he wanted to move on to the real thing and film what he has to be around 24/7 on the bus. and stevie was standing there plotting something. i tell you, that guy's gonna be the catalyst of world war three. my list crush is henry thomas. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: This is happening without my permission
by Michael Jones 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Hello youse, Well, everyone's gone barmy. 3000 mails a day and I'm never touching cottage cheese again in my life. Struan and Isobel an item ? Bugger. What chance now of The Rough Guide To Caledonian Queercore publishing my piece on B&S ? This is hard on the heels of The Economist rejecting my Larry Grayson profile purely because of my enthusiastic use of the word 'foreskin'. In context, for God's sake, in context. I'm packing in this biog lark. It's a mug's game. Meanwhile, I continue to be stalked by former members of Huggy Bear. Not, I suspect, as worrying as being stalked by former members of the Khmer Rouge or the Baader-Meinhof Gang, but unnerving nevertheless. (For our younger readers, Huggy Bear were a troupe of anarchic minstrels of ambiguous sexuality - rather like B&S - who caused something of a rumpus in the early part of this decade by upsetting noted Mancunian ignoramus Terry Christian on national television and by releasing a stream of shamelessly unlistenable 7-inch singles. I think the Khmer Rouge were on a Postcard compilation and the Baader-Meinhof Gang put out a couple of EPs on Mute.) They sit opposite me on the Tube between Finsbury Park and Vauxhall, making fierce eye-contact and taking feverish notes in pocket-sized John Menzies pads. I do hope they're not intending to co-opt me into their next BoyGirl Revolution. I didn't much care for the last one. To those listees who miss Timbaland Popkiss; he is alive, well and drinking in Peckham. Mike (about as easy as a nuclear war). _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: things to do in NYC on Saturday night...
by Erin Lewis 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Hi kids, This is a shameless plug for someone who deserves it. If you are not seeing one of the other million bands at the CMJ festival in New York on Saturday night, please go see Mr. Mark Kozelek (of Red House Painters fame) play at the Fort in Greenwich Village. It's a tiny place behind the Sidewalk Cafe, and the address is 94 Ave. A. His showtime is 11 p.m. He usually honors requests too, if you speak loud enough for him to hear. (A suggestion from someone who knows: REO Speedwagon or "Warpigs".) Just out of curiosity, did anyone on this list go see the Lucksmiths play at the Poetry Cafe because I posted shamelessly about it? Please e-mail me your success story if so. -Miss Erin, who wonders if anyone here follows orders *Confidential to Donovan Matador Finn*: I will gladly send you some "secret" sessions if you promise to send Miss Chan Marshall (aka Cat Power) some candy or a happy lightbox (or lemons?). Her live show was sooooo disappointing, and it had Bill Smog written all over it. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: yikes
by Kayemess＠aol.com 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Re: those who TALK LOUDLY during Belle and Seb sets... I have the following to say: a- Going to a show, any show, is as much a social event as it is a musical experience. I, for example, was at the Nov. 1 show with my true love, who I had not seen in over 4 months. Granted, we were not talking loudly, but we were indeed talking between songs. You have to accept that, at any given show, there will be talkers in the audience. This does not mean that they are not "true fans" of the band or what have you. It simply means that the show experience, for them, is more than just listening to the music. At a Belle and Sebastian show, however, I do not condone loud talking during the quiet music. That's damn rude. b- I have less of a problem with loud talkers that loud singers. The people standing behind me insisted upon singing the words to every song in their less than pleasant voices. But maybe that's what "true fans"do. Maybe they show everyone how much they like the band by displaying their propensities for lyric memorization. As far as Matador goes: a- If Matador were THAT corporate a label, Belle and Sebastian would probably not be distributed by them. Period. I won't go into indie label politics here, but I'm sure working with Matador entails a lot less of the corporate scum motif than, say, Virgin of David Geffen or something. b- I have it on good authority that most of the "scum" who were not "true fans of the band" from Matador were there because they WANTED to see the band. First off, I was a part of the post-show Matador party, and nobody could stop raving about how great the show was. Second, if Matador employees didn't like Belle and Sebastian, they didn't have to go to see them. Matador artists don't get free tickets to NYC shows anymore. Thus, the employees of the label probably had to shell out the cash just like the rest of us. Finally, if you're still opposed to the idea of record company workers being at the same show as "true fans," bear in mind that the nature of the record contract is that somebody, somewhere within the structure of Matador records liked Belle and Sebastian enough to distribute them. It might be a lot harder for "true fans" in the US to get B&S albums if they were still being distributed exclusively by Jeepster. Or any other smaller overseas label for that matter. That being said, I wanna hear more about the ice fight. How did I miss that? Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: yikes
by MWaggner＠aol.com 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

In a message dated 98-11-05 14:07:45 EST, you write: > (not to mention the other 30 of us Matador types...2 of which were > the target of the vicous ice-throwing incident. Gosh, I'm so glad it was corporate "hey-kid-sell-your-soul-to-the-devil?" label scum, and not some nice fans of the band :) Oh! but wait!! Fans of the band probably wouldn't have been TALKING LOUDLY during the set, would they? Thus showing a really bad upbringing and terrible lack of concern for both the band and those around them? Probably not. Actually, my apologies -- had been a long weekend -- weeks actually, starting with Philly. Culminating in finally hearing the most gorgeous music and getting sooo happy, only to hear people constantly babbling.... Well, sort of apologies. Kind of. No, nevermind.... I had really good aim on the second volley :) Shot... score! still giggling, --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: New listee speaks!
by Martin Horsfield 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

Dear all, This is is virgin posting, so forgive me if any of it is 1) off topic, or 2) off the case. I got my introduction to B&S from John Peel playing 'The Stars Of Track And Field' late in 1996 (it was the last time I heard him play something that really made me spring out of my seat, but Peel's like that; there might be another epiphanous moment in 2002 if he's still kicking around). Anyway, on Radio 1, the B&S baton was also carried for a while by Stuart Maconie (a man of no little taste who once hung around with Elvis Costello's dad, just because he was in the area for a few pub gigs). I recall he played 'Dylan In The Movies one Sunday night and that was me sold on B&S. I bought '...Sinister' soon afterwards. So then: to some debate. So far, reports of B&S' live activities have veered between evangelical praise and utter revulsion. Are they getting any better live, then? (Try to be objective here...) If so, could one of you US listees send me a tape of a gig, or some radio sessions? In return I can send you some (unspecified) cool stuff from England. I'm at Flat 6, 1 Dante Road, London, SE11 4RB. Lastly: the plug. My band, Matinee, now has a whistles and bells website. Please visit it; form crushes on our guitarist and listen to our not un-Smiths/B&S-like Real Audio sample, 'The Stargazers'. (Actually, we're having trouble with it, so I would be obliged if you could just tell me whether it works or not.) The site's at www.members.tripod.com/~the_embankment That'll be all then, save to say that if any of you are thinking of checking out The Byrds (a recurring theme on the list lately), don't overlook 'Flying High' the new Gene Clarke retrospective. Country rock to melt your heart. Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: boston celeb spotting, some questions
by Bluvelour＠aol.com 06 Nov '98

06 Nov '98

anyone happen to catch the dambuilders' guitarist eric at the show? i think he was there alone. i was starstruck but too shy to say hullo. a question: how would one go about getting her picture in the list photo gallery? another question: how would one go about attempting to locate an import of the new ep thingie? okie, i gotta go walk my doggie. her name is jupiter and she has to potty. thanks gallons, kids... xo, cindy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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