December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Advent
by Mb00EN＠aol.com 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

Good day everyone I wish i knew how to send bitmap images then i'd be able to do an advent calander picture aday, but i remain ignorant to the ways of bill gates, sorry. Someone else smarter than me could do it though, i hope i havent offended anyone in a South Park PC faux pas. 'A mile on a bus takes a long time'- Never a true word has been spoke, it once took me two hours to go 12 miles, thats er...10 minutes a mile, and there was no traffic, just a stupid route, we doubled back on ourselves twice, i hate buses. To the heart broken friend, if you listen to belle and sebastian when your going through such negative emotions (like a break up) then over time the music will act as a stimuli to those negative emotions, like pavlov's dogs. Furthermore if belle and sebastian become really famous (who knows!) then this stimuli could be constantly emitted over the air waves, so be warned everyone. (There must be a dissertation in that somewhere). Is the video for dirty dream #2 just for the french?, maybe put in a world cup theme, from a scottish perspective, but it'd be to short (sorry, could'nt resist it). Dont hate me for that. Thats about it i think, before i go could someone mail me privately about baby chaos, i'd like to know if there still around, they sound abit like belle and sebastian dont you think? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: all my roudy friends are coming over tonight
by brad 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

hot-damn! the list sure has gotten quiet lately, not that i mind. so i started to come up with an idea for the dirty dream video, but i only got as far as struan lying in bed with one of those little speech bubbles floating over his head, like in cartoons, but it would show what he was dreaming. and he'd be dreaming of mick eating a corndog naked. with mustard dripping down his left nipple. i could never get past that point, because everytime i thought about it i would faint because all the blood would rush to my bigger than tag's member. you know what would be a good song for b&s to cover? "the emi song (smile for me)" by alex chilton. it would be perfect. i went to the list crush page. and i read the list of rejected suggestions. you know, sometimes i hate this list because of all the jibberish that gets sent, but when i see that someone voted for northy, then i forgive everyone for everything. viva los sinister list! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: humvee?
by TheAdwiz＠aol.com 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

Can anyone tell me what HMV stands for? That's all i have to say. -Arye (who just bought a used copy of the velvet underground boxed set) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tigermilk
by Jonathan Hill 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

First of all how much is "Tigermilk" worth now? Secondly where can I find a copy? If anyone knows these please let me know as I'm trying to get a copy before Christmas and willing to pay quite a bit for it!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I am a witch, i am a witch, i am a witch
by rebelstrange＠ldd.net 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

hello sinister ones, having a sinister day i trust (or evening as may be) i swear upon stu's arms of sex that i am not drunk righ tnow, im' just really silly and i've been sick for a day and i feel sort of dizzy so take that into account. i thoght about getting a thing of pink champagne today but i decided against it. MMMM david kitchen mentioned amelia fletcher, how's that for ah KISMET ??? not really cos ther ewas the whole she and me thread, but i can't help it i think everything is an omen. GAWD i'm so jealous i wish i lived int eh uk, i would be on tv talking about the shiny apple, i'm going to cry now. and let it be said that Neil is the nicest guy in the world, there it was said, yah neil rawks ya know it babee, that's one groovin cat and one swell fella in da house, give it up i'm gonna shout out to my posse STUARTS in DA HOUSE!!!! oh yeah Stuart murdoch has a Shiny Apple Posse everyone, have you done your homework, are you scrawling the following phrases on walls and stalls of your country roaming grounds and abroad: We Rule the School, Le Pastie de La Bourgeoisie, Belle and Sebastian are God, Stuart Murdoch Buffs My Apple, For a Wicked Time Call Isobel.... ??? get to work people!! rome wasn't built in a day! dirty dream idea i'm just going to think up one right now: ok i was thinking of this yesterday and i forgot it. but it would be a cool dirty dream vid. they could fix up a place like the warhol factory and all dress up as various superstars, stu m would be andy, and EDIE duh!!! and there could be shiny aluminum foil everywhere and decadent dancing and outrageious fashion as implied by the GORGEOUS swell of the music of dirty dream!!!!! there could be scenes with people playing fun games like pin the tail on the donkey, or the stuart, and silver pants YEAH! then at the end you cut to outside the only window in the whole place which is down a hallway as we excape away from the noise and profligation and fornication going on in the Factory, and out the window across a shadowy moor, a tiny sweet cottage with little cows chwing cud in the dark as the stars begin to fade, and in the golden window a paddington bed-for-8 and all the belle imps nestled snugly, clutching their baby blankets and ba-ba's and .......... it WAS A DREAM!! GET IT??? *wooo* i'm so good! Band members are you listening? million dollar idea! *wooWOO* money train, all aboard...... (oh yeah and dont' forget the part where sarah and isobel get it on) i would like to express that i totally understand the guy who posted about coming to tears listenign to arab strap in a listening booth, having just Discovered teh record today. yeah i''ve had it for over a month, but( dont' laugh at me!!!) it just never did for me the way it did today, i played it at least 7 times i'm sure. whatever! i won't go on about it cos i'm sure all you have gone over every bit of it already. FINALLY Enough ALREADY with this talk of isobel's 'orifice"!!!!!! i shall have you drawn and quartered, you-you - Animals! how dare you. it is just wrong as wrong can be, and truly Wicked to boot, but in the worst sense. you may as well go on about MY orifice, well, go on, dont 'be shy about it, what filth you wanna shove in there? about time we stopped this perniciously pornographic patriarchally poisoned nonsennse, and whip some arses into shape. no we will no have no such talk if i can help it. it makes me ill when sweet girls are made into dirty fantasies, and dont' say i know ti was your fantasy! Hummph-- MEN!!! you obviously haven't been reading your radical feminist manifestoes lately., well i've done your work for you, and NOW get ready for a pop Quiz!! *RebelJo storms off in a huff, making a beeline for her machete case, and picks up a Nutcracker on the way back* i shall have my Isobel page up very soon, and rest assured that discussions of orifices of any kind will be strongly discouraged therein! (Joan of Arc) was once saluted by a soldier who recognized her as "La Pucelle"(the maid). He bragged to a companion: "If I could only get a hold of her for a night, by God, she wouldn't be a virgin much longer." Joan heard and answered, "You mock God and yet you shall soon die." In less than an hour, the soldier --Intercourse, .Dworkin you watch me like TV, talk about me like a movie, you're so dirty... Dream till you couldn't see her face but you saw everything else..... *hearts and crosses*, valerie solanas(sic) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: FAQ list again...
by Keith Watson 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

Belle and Sebastian : Frequently asked Questions 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently some time in 1999. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. Here's a list of releases. "Purify" 7", "Thrum" / "Here I am" / "So glad" 12"/CDs and the "Rifferama" LP/CD 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows, and to be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar, trumpet apparently now, for the twin lead trumpet effect. Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar, piano, singing. Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. V-Twin have released two singles (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In the land of the Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Previously : (Early) Digger$, Lisa Helps The Blind, Rhode Island. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records, also played on the Snowpatrol record and sings her own songs. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon, there are numerous different versions of the Loneliness of the middle distance runner. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single... Which they are, as the next single contains This is just a modern rock song The gate I know where the summer goes Slow Graffiti Here's another piece by Peter Miller : One of the rarest Belle and Sebastian related recordings is a home produced demo of "To Sir With Love", the Lulu song from the film of the same name. The recording features the plaintive voice of Stuart Murdoch alone with his Casiotone keyboard, and is rumoured to be heartbreakingly beautiful. From the same recording session comes one of Murdoch's earliest attempts at songwriting, but no one can remember what it's called. It mentions "She Made Me Realise" by My Bloody Valentine. Efforts to locate these recordings have proved unsuccesful so far. 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. Apparently this is now called "Wrong Girl", will it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in the future? The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Loneliness of the middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who is Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk is dedicated to Lawrence Bradby, who's a friend of Stuart's. I dunno how frequently asked this question is, but it certainly was asked frequently recently as regards a competition on French radio. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, they rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, what's the story there then? Well it's not really Belle and Sebastian on that EP, as you'll see if you have a look at who played on it. Here's the story: All the songs on the EP were recorded some time, either at the end of '95, or start of '96, at Beat Box studios, which is where Stuarts Murdoch and David were doing a doley sound engineering course at the time. Pretty much everyone who plays on it were on the course as well, apart from Mick. One of the guys who ran the studio was Alan Rankine, of Stow College, and Electric Honey Records, which is where he came in. So hopefully that'll put an end to the word of loads of hoary old session musicians playing on it, just kids who were on the course. Makes the recording of that EP sounds less like an episode of Rock School doesn't it. 13. Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie - what does it translate as? Apparently, what it's supposed to translate as is "The Apathy of the Upper Class", however it doesn't, so we're told by reliable French people... Doh! And yes it was sprayed on the wall at Charing Cross for a while, it's in the video for Dog on Wheels, there was another graffiti of the same thing done by a bloke from the Yummyfur apparently, next to Greggs the Bakers on Byres road. 14. Who's on the covers of the records? Tigermilk : Joanne Kenney If you're feeling sinister : Ciara MacLaverty Dog on Wheels : Joanne Kenney Lazy Line Painter Jane : Thea Martin 3,6,9 Seconds of Light : Stuart Murdoch and Victoria Morton The Boy with the Arab Strap : Chris Geddes 15. Are there any differences between UK and US versions of any of the records? No, apart from the fact that the UK pressing of "The Boy with the Arab Strap" is slightly heavier vinyl than the US version. Basically - you'd have to be a bit sad to buy them both. Many thanks to Andreas Hering, Mick Cooke, Chris Leonard, Philippe Garnier and Peter Miller for help with this.

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Sinister: The dread gogglebox
by John Johnston 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

'Allo my sinister chuums... I've been wracking my brains for belle and sebastian related moments that might get me on the TV in my shameless drive for self promotion (comedy Thursday night - Bedford pub, Balham 9pm - Ubu Rex all next week, Tabard Theatre, Turnham Green 8pm).Most concern the charming times I've had meeting other listees,picnics and meet-ups and stuff - all thanks to the mummy honey and his benevolent dictatorship - (Floreat Honeii i say). And then I keep thinking of the that time i first heard B&S on Mark Radcliffe's show and how it froze me in my tracks. I heard that little guitar jangle at the start of The State I'm In and I've never looked back. Now I had a very interesting chat with my friend Kevin the actor who plays Johnny in the Acid House. He was saying that Slow Graffiti was composed specially for the film (and his character) so the Johnny in question is the chap in the film. Can anyone confirm/deny this little factoid. If Andre Viera is still on the list I'd like to thank you for the photos and say that your letter was the single smuttiest, funniest thing I have ever read - I salute you! Say not the struggle naught availeth! John In my sandwiches - marmite. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Make a Big Happy Christmas Feeling!
by Michael Barrett 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

If you thought the christmas music in shops in the UK was bad, you should try Japan. Not only is it karioki-ised but it is blasted out on to the streets as well, right up until when they shut at 10.00. I'm afraid I have nothing of much interest to say. I just had to get a message to Kevan, and to communicate in English with somebody (or 800 somebodys (or the 6 somebodys that don't delete the mail straight away)). Oh and I also voted in the new Groovy Interactive Multimedia Internet Java DVD List Crush Doodah. But I'm not saying who (nutcrackers can be dangerous things). Bastards - That's to every one who'll be getting It's Just a Wooden Hard-on before me. I won't get it for weeks, unless there is some quick-ass importing over here. Still, its probably shite. Or maybe pish. Michael Kevan - I'll have a look for your CDs later on in the week. I don't have your email address, so mail me (I hope you can read this from NY). By the way, how is the tournament going? Is Jason Donovan/Stuart Murdoch living up to expectations or collapsing under the intense media pressure? Is that silver paint holding up? Has Isobel pulled another Ronaldo and not turned up at the final? We need to know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re:criminations
by Brier Random 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

Well it's my first post in days.... forgive the curiosity-grabbing title.... but I guess I was just wondering how Stuart is able to write songs that touch so many people on so many levels (witness "Seeing Other People", coming out of my CD player now). Wanted to chat so bad, but couldn't get past the icon on my desktop when it asked which program I wanted to open the chat in. Perhaps a question for the Kitchen eventually, that.... Loved the Dirty Dream video scenarios, hope to see one on the telly soon. My only idea involved peeling a carrot towards a framed Mona Lisa, the thin peelings sticking to her face & breastplate region. So I didn't post it. Oh shit, I just did. Is anyone else drunk on beer tonite? Will anyone forgive if that has an effect on this useless post, as long as I say something relevant like: "I sure hope I don't end up hating 'The Gate' just because everyone else does", and "I sure hope they decide to tour here on the west coast of the USA sometime before I have children old enough to appreciate them." Or: "Oooohhh, has anyone seen that Brier guy in the photo gallery (both the "Now" photo and the "Baby" picture??? Mmmmmm). I hear Honey had to do some extensive air-brushing, but he looks Fiiiiiiiine. (Fade to sound of list-crushes swarming like a dozen crushing blows.) I sure hope that the new TEEJAMMERS e.p. is available here in the US, even on import. I've heard so much about the songs, but I'd like to meet them in person. You all (even those I've privately settled minor flames with) are the cat's pyjamas (I mean that..) i remain, brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hello
by azrael 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

well, kids, i'm back. and i've brought an ink polaroid with me: these feet here, they're mine and Jonny's. mine are the ones in the reddish steel-toe boots. his are the ones in the black zippered combat bots. we're both wearing navy blue slacks so our legs are indistinguishable from each other. it's hard to tell from the angle of this picture, but we're lying down on his bed. there's the blue bedsheets over to the right. just our feet in boots like that, all intertwined. it's a punk rock romance. -kerry "red usually means caution. or beef if it's a bullion cube." -"toys" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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