February 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: 'Names that will live forever'
by babyblu＠gold.globalcafe.co.uk 11 May '98

11 May '98

Deep breath... Steely dan- vibrator in Clockwork orange. Moloko- means 'milk' in Clockwork orangeuse. Campaq Velocet- means ...erm something in Clockwork orangeuse. The Fall- Top Camus novel. Orlando- Virginia Woolf opus. The Bible- Little known work by John Baptist, or somebody. Heaven 17- name of a band in Clockwork orange (Hmmmm, perhaps fledgling bands should really read some OTHER books) The Velvet Underground- name of a trashy pulp novel about sado-masochism that Lou Reed found in the street. My Bloody Valentine- name of a trashy pulp novel about sado-masochism that Kevin Sheilds found, after years spent scouring bookshops and libraries in order that he too could have a band name a bit like The Velvet Underground. Millions basically...... Stay Lucky, Roryxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: pop and non-pop
by Hopkins T 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

>Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, >I just like them. That's cool. I think they're vile and that's cool too. >I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the >types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to >happen. Mmmm, it's impossible. I'm not really trying to find a word for a particular kind of music, or particular kinds of music, I'm talking about a word for a particular kind of feeling. Not just a kind of happy/sad/excited/calmed/whatever, but that feeling when something really sends you, y'know. >Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to >you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. I don't think it's toal toss (but then you do and you're right and I'm wrong, prob'ly...;-)). I'm sorry if it irritated you. Not even I am dumb enough to believe that there are objective rights and objective wrongs when it comes to music. The point I was trying to make (and clearly I should do it in a less ham-fisted way next time) was that great pop fun is to be had by taking up (relatively) arbitrary positions and holding on to them for dear life, until you get bored. This is pop, and it's not doing anybody any harm to hold a few extreme opinions on the merits of the likes of Deep Purple. I remember the excitement I felt the first time I heard Subway Sect's 'A Different Story', heard him sing 'We Oppose All Rock And Roll'. the power of saying these things is part of the great power of pop. It was important to me that I loved McCarthy and hated the March Violets (or whoever) in 1986. There's a great tradition of drawing arbitrary lines: Wyndham Lewis's Blast/Bless way back; Tom Vague did the same thing. And the famous Westwood/Rhodes T-shirt. "One day you're gonna wake up and know which side of the bed you're on". Sometimes it's fun. And I don't think I'm too off-beam in saying there's a lot of pop-good in getting up folks' noses from time to time. It's not as though I'm advocating violence or anything, or that I advocate the taking of such extreme positions outside POP! (the feeling). See, pop allows that creation of self.... And let the person who has never called a band or a record shite stand up and take the rosette for best liberal of the year. Ten years ago I would have spat 'hippy' at the endof that sentence. I shan't today. See, I have grown up a bit. 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Sinister: Tune all your voices and instruments play
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 02 Mar '98

02 Mar '98

> Subject: Sinister: Come come ye sons of Art (and daughters) > Sinister Picnics: this is a fabulous idea, even if I will propbably have to skive off college to go. Where would the London one be held? Where were those ones which the David/Katrina unit used to go to? > I think when we do have the first picnic they should occur all over > the > world; wherever 2 or more sinisterenes are gathered together. We could > then arrange for Elton John (or even better - Sonia) to sing a medly > of > his/her hits in perhaps London and then jet off to the USA - live-aid > style. > Definitely. Perhaps we could get Sonia to do some B&S covers. "You're Just A Baby" would seem appropriate. > I shall make some of my mother's celebrated Anzac cookies for the day. > And bring my frisbee. > I shall bring chocolate Rice Crispie thingies and lots of sweets of the acidic and delicious variety. B&S picnic menu! Let's go! And now for something completely different: "Children's" authors I still love: Diana Wynne Jones: real people in *kiddy* literature! Whatever next! T.H. White: anyone who's read Mistress Masham's Repose or The Sword In The Stone (not just a Disney cartoon, surprisingly) will understand. Joan Aiken: Dido Twite is simply the coolest girl ever. Roald Dahl: he's still great, despite being dead. Enough rambling already. ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) *********************************************************** Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly Singing about her head, as she rode by. Robert Graves *********************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: it's a family affair!
by Amanda Bergman 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

Look! My dad subscribed to the list! Except he had a bit of trouble figuring out how to post initially, so I'm forwarding his first reply to list mail. Now he knows what to do, though, for next time! This had been a reply to boysetsfire or whoever who posted from American University in Washington DC, inquiring about other B&S fans. My dad has great post potential...I have faith that in time he might even come to be ranked among the Tags and PJ Millers and Keith Watsons of the list! Now, let's have a nice carp and innuendo filled Sinister welcome for my dad, Big Art Bergman! byebye, AmandaSwan >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 98 22:45:33 Eastern Daylight Time >From: Arthur Bergman <Arthur.Bergman(a)gte.net> >To: Amanda Bergman <a-bergman(a)nwu.edu> >Subject: east coast bs fans > >Sure there are B&S fans on the east coast (assuming you refer to the >continental US). Some are young, >very few are older, and some even remember the Zombies and Donovan in real >time. So you're not >alone, now get off the internet and study so your parental units will be >proud of you. Had you gone to a >certain school in Rhode Island, and made great contributions to education >there, you could have told >people "I gave myself to Providence College, the state that I am in." >Keep humming along! ------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman(a)nwu.edu "I've got style, miles and miles, so much style that it's wasted." --Pavement ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: NON B&S Re: Watch out! Debris Slide!
by NicamBurnie 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

You said: > Can you recommend a good first (Pavement) > album to waste my hard-(non)earned cash on? I'm just an ickle > ignorant > girlie who doesn't know what she's doing in a big scary record > emporium... > I say: Buy all of them! Erm, that doesn't help much does it? Well, why don't you start from the beginning (because they're all great) with SLANTED AND ENCHANTED. Very scratchy sounding compared to their new, hi-fi (as opposed to lo-fi, yawn!) stuff, but still my favourite album of theirs, probably. Yeah, go out and buy it.....but take care in the BIG SCARY RECORD emporium..............("emporium"?)....hmmmmmmm... Hey, I tried a Shady Lane and it worked! Thanks..................EVERYBODY WANTS ONE! *******I ask anyone:************** Is there a Pavement mailing list? ********************************** Lies and betrayals, fruit covered nails, Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelectricty.............. BaPtIsT BlAcKTicK. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: texas is the reason (non b&s)
by ahalter 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

hello kiddies i apologise this has nothing to do with b&s but i am going to texas next week for the first time in my life to visit my parents who moved there while i was away at school... they live in a suburb of forth worth but i remember that someone on this list is from austin and i very much want to go there on a day trip so i was wondering if there were any suggestions on where to go what to do etc... and if you could email me privately and respond it would be very much appreciated thank you!!! in advance! allison ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Evolution
by PKHINTZ 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

Now this is odd. I was sitting at the computer, typing away emails. I heard a thud downstairs--and soon after "Make a new cult every day". No one else is in the house right now. I had to investigate. My cat Bridget was sitting on top of stereo, looking quite proud of herself. I suppose I underestimated my cats; they like Belle and Sebastian too. Or, Bridget was attempting to attack the feather duster next to the CD player. I gave her a kitty treat. When are the B&S t-shirts coming out in pet sizes? It is a family affair after all. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: jangly pop
by C Browning 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

alright, very little - okay nothing at all - to do with Belle and Sebastian but as all you lot seem to have such mighty fine music tastes and all that i wonder if you could help me. i bought today for the princely sum of two pounds a rather wonderful album by a band called PO! called Ducks and Drakes. apart from teh fact that they are on a label called Rutland Records and appear to come from Leicestershire i know pants all else about them. as they seem to be ever so slightly jangly pop and i get the impression that there are a few more than knowledgeable folk out there when it comes to music i was wondering if you could fill me in on any details about this band and all that. cheers! chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: picnic with me, please!
by Jennifer Phillips-Bacher 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

Hello lovelies, All this talk about B & S picnicing has got me thinking: anyone in Madison, WI up for it? Picnic Point? James Madison? Perhaps a good game of croquet? If interested, please email me warm regards, jennifer ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Im Feeling sinister
by Richard Anderson 28 Feb '98

28 Feb '98

Hi guys I just bought sinister after finding the shop bereft of copies on tuesday. How about organising the table turning event for a certain day at a certain time and giving everybody a certain item of clothing to wear so we can recognise each other. Kinda like a national blind ('cause we wasn't careful) date. Off to listen to my new purchase. Richard Anderson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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