February 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: hal hartley and felt.
by jonathan shainin 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

the commotion of the list has stirred me into trying to just say a great number of things at once, especially relating to the recent talk of both felt and hal hartley, what with me having just returned from watching amateur and flirt a half hour ago. hartley: i don't know how many b&s fans like the man, since the connection isn't apparent (indie rock on the soundtracks, i guess?) but he's speaking in london tomorrow at the ICA, i think at 2 pm. just thought i'd see if anyone else was going. as to felt, that line from i don't love anyone has always been one of my favorite, but in disagreement with matt, i'd have to side with "the pictorial jackson review" as the finest felt record, if only for its pure devotion to short pop songs. when i got to london last month, the only two tapes i listened to, partially to make myself feel better about being here were that, and tigermilk. i find that i never really seem to get tired of tigermilk, like i can listen to it eight or ten times in a row without ever getting bored at all. surely i can't be the only one that thinks this? jonathan. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Miller frets on...
by PJMiller 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

-----Original Message----- De: Hopkins T <t.hopkins(a)lancaster.ac.uk> Para: 'sinister(a)majordomo.net' <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Fecha: jueves 5 de febrero de 1998 17:52 Asunto: Sinister: multiple reply bonanza (tiny sliver of B&S content) >3) Do yourself a favour and get on a plane, then a train, then a taxi to the >Duke's very own brilliant club night in sunny Exeter. It is a room which >truly lives. And hey, take in a fantastic game of football while you're in >town. While you're there, ask the Duke what he wants taping. I did ask him. He said "just make it classy", which is where the problem stems from. I think I'll stick to Isaac Hayes. You can't get much classier than that, and there's a track called "The Duke". I have visited Duke's club cybernetically via his web extravaganza. It's got a picture of Barbie on it. >Yes! Yes! Don't buy Q! It's all lies and fuckery! :-) The fact that they bumped the price up has a lot to do with it, but I might make an exception this month Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: I'm just out of the trees
by PJMiller 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

-----Original Message----- De: Keith Watson <keith(a)qss.co.uk> Para: Bill and Sebastienne mailing list <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Fecha: jueves 5 de febrero de 1998 14:04 Asunto: Sinister: I'm just out of the trees Keith somehow managed to write: >> read a book. > > >Do I have to! It's funny the number of people come on to the list talking >about being computer-illiterate, whereas I find myself in the opposite camp >(perhaps this is a way of describing people on the list being in 2 different >camps), or being very computer-literate, but being hardly able to read! > > I'll read a book as long as it's got plenty of pictures in it. > But you must have read at least one fiction book, Keith. Surely? My aim in life is to write the kind of book that people who never read books read, and then they go on and on about it for the rest of their lives, because it was really good, but they never seem to feel the urge to read another. While we're on the subject, my tip for the top is "Boy Cuddle" by Stevie White, which I was reminded of by David and Katrina Kitchen and House's tales of fun and frolics on Primrose Hill. I don't know why, because D&K didn't mention anything about bisexual alcoholic boxers or shagging in airport toilets. Mind you, you might think it's shit. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by John Stuart 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Keith wrote: >Something's just entered my head which has been dormant for about 6 months - >but Paul or someone mentioned that "Slow Grafitti" was going to be on the >soundtrack to the Acid House film. It's just come back to me that I seem to >remember they had a track called "Soft Touch" or something like that for the >Acid House film... Can't for the life of me remember who told me this or >where I found out. I thought this too, but I was later told that 'A Soft Touch' is one of the short stories in the acid house have been adapted for the film. The B&S track will be feature in the 'soft touch' part of the film. JohnS. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: I'm just out of the trees
by Keith Watson 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

>But you must have read at least one fiction book, Keith. Surely? My aim in >life is to write the kind of book that people who never read books read, and >then they go on and on about it for the rest of their lives, because it was >really good, but they never seem to feel the urge to read another. I am exagerrating the issue just for the sake of a laugh. I know what you mean about the book thing Peter, I always get dead excited when you get a record like say "The Stone Roses" which goes and makes a load of people who didn't really listen to music get into it big style - that happened to quite a lot of people when I was in 6th year with that record. I have read some books... I read a lot of biographies - read the Nick Drake one, and just read a Buzzcocks one and am going to get Johnny Rogan's remixed Byrds book too soon - hell I'm going to get the Stranglers one too. Fiction however's a different story. I've read "Star Wars" and read all of Hargreaves' books (Roger). I've read lots of Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks too. I've read all the ones I was forced to read at school, but that's about it. It's no great loss to me, it's always been music and paintings for me really, that's all. If I feel the need, I will read some books, but I'll have to have a reason really - as Bobby Gillespie once mused about Acid House and Rock, "It's all the fuckin' same thing anyway" which I tend to agree with. Oh incidentally - I certainly don't read books about computers - I think someone read that into what I said. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by John Stuart 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Katrina wrote:- > the cd features the video on it, one of those enhanced cd thingies .... What a great idea!! I've never heard of bands doing that before. Am I correct in thinking it's just a quicktime file on the cd, not any outdated video-cd format or anything like that? Any chance that Belle & Sebby will do something along the same lines on their next release? I'm surprised it's not a more popular idea. I'll have to but the Snow Patrol single, just to check it out! The songs not bad too, and I'll probably go to see the band play on tomorrow night. Cheers, JohnS. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: THE B&S cover
by Reid Dossinger 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Apologies to those who are sick of this topic, but I think I just came up with the PERFECT B&S cover: '70's-era, secular, pre-grits-in-the-lap Al Green doing "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying". Maybe slow it down a bit...mmmm, just thinking of him belting out, "Ohhhh, that wasn't what I meant to say at all." Oh, yeah. Oh, and I'd also love to hear Ben Folds Five doing their "Stars of Track and Field". That song was made for them. I've GOT to hear them rocking out the end bit, with Darren riding his crash and Ben pounding the piano like it wronged him. The next time I go to see them, I'm gonna yell that out and try to get them to play it. ~Reid ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: lyrics
by LISA BERRY 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Marylka - I KNOW where those lyrics come from, but I can't remember!! Now it's going to bug me too until I find out!!! I can even "hear" them being sung in my head - but I can't place the band or song. It's a guy singing - kind of low and moody. Sorry I can't help!!! Love, Lisa XXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: brief help, please, Paul... (fwd)
by Honey 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Like the BBC I'm sending on this note Tim sent me to redress the right-left bias. Tim worried that it would spark more debate and he was right too, but frankly, people shouldn't express socio-political opinions and expect others to not want to reply to the same forum of people. And frankly, sod it, I agree with Tim who put more eloquently what I would have said. But please, having made this 1-1, LET IT END. This really is not what I set this mailing list up for and my server can't take the strain of a heated political debate which has *nothing* to do with the band or our direct personal experiences. And don't go saying "everything is politics" because I reckon I can equally well say "everything is love" and spend two hours of your time telling you about my first sexual experiences with a camel. Oh and don't suspect too quick a reply rate to other stuff today - at home. Actually it'll probably be quicker. Loving you all dearly still, even those who hang to the right. But I mean it, don't rage about this one or I'll ask Tony Benn to stamp on you all. "Mixing pop and politics, they ask me what the use is. I offer them embarrassment and my usual excuses." Honey xxx -- Thank you for not discussing the outside world. (Exactly) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:23:49 -0000 From: Hopkins T <t.hopkins(a)lancaster.ac.uk> To: Honey <honey(a)Majordomo.net> Subject: brief help, please, Paul... Northy wrote: >Sorry but this is a load of horseshit. And went on to prove himself right. >I am fed up with people having a go at people just because they are >affluent. Oh yeah? You know what I'm fed up with? Let me give you a few examples... > People are selfish and do not love each and every man on >the street. It is human fucking nature. I'm fed up with fuckers trying to tell me that human nature is fixed and absolute and -oh!- just happens to coincide with the way that those who hold ALL the cards in the developed world (and hence the world) want it. >Rich people are not inherently evil. I hate the way people say this. I'm fed up with people rallying to the defence of the rich when the rich can look after themselves very well, thank you very much. This isn't just you, Northy, it's all over the place. >The way I see it is that in life you have to ignore all the shit and >just find love and then find yourself a cosy corner to enjoy it. I'm fed up with people who don't understand that not everyone has access to a 'cosy corner' to enjoy the love that they've found. I'm fed up with tossers getting sanctimonious (again, not necessarily you, Northy) when ordinary people haven't managed to pull themselves 'up' by their bootstraps and find their way into the middle class. I'm fed up with people who have tried to find a cosy corner still getting shat on from a great height 'cos they picked the wrong firm to work for, got too old, got sick, got tired, whatever. I'm not saying I'm homeless, that I'm unemployed, on the breadline or whatever (tho' I'm not rich either...) but that doesn't stop me from being sickened by the way our society is organised. >Sure, lets get communist and get Belle and Sebastian censored. Northy, you what? What the hell are you talking about? Like capital doesn't censor through control of the means of communication? Pop music, folks, pop music is the easiest and loudest way to regain (at least briefly) some access to mass communication...but of course it gets eaten up and mediated soon enough. It's one of the reasons why pop is inherently political, why participating in pop is different, and remains different to, say, watching the telly or going to see a film. And participating in pop is probably more effective than getting involved with any of those dull no life no joy bunches of patronising ultra-leftist prats, too. >Please do not reply to the list to this. Couldn't stop myself, sorry. Anyway, if you didn't want a reply, you shouldn't have written in the first place. >Peace list In the words of the once very great Cathal Coughlen, 'Send me love and peace, two more things I can't afford...' >Oh....and no offence about the comment Sarah! Oh, and no offence about the e-mail, Northy. Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: DJ Pierre
by Keith Watson 06 Feb '98

06 Feb '98

Something's just entered my head which has been dormant for about 6 months - but Paul or someone mentioned that "Slow Grafitti" was going to be on the soundtrack to the Acid House film. It's just come back to me that I seem to remember they had a track called "Soft Touch" or something like that for the Acid House film... Can't for the life of me remember who told me this or where I found out. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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