March 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
by jon g. 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

-----Original Message----- From: PJMiller <pjmiller(a)arrakis.es> To: B&S mailing list <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: 30 March 1998 14:42 Subject: RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family! >B is for Bethy and Jon, who've only just turned fifiteen, (jon hides embarassedly) me and bethey were just saying how exciting it will be next time we go to a B&S gig, all you lot (all you grown-ups) that are there are going to know exactly who we are and they will come pick on us. Did anyone notice us at the sunday matinee in Manchester? we felt like everyone was looking at us cos we were so small, but I don't know. The best bit was when we collected our tickets from the credit card bloke and I had to explain to him that it was my Mum's credit card - it was more than slightly amusing. Anyway, while we were getting our tickets, the girl on the front of Dog On Wheels was standing at the desk. I got really excited about this, but I don't think bethey was so thrilled. Anyway, it looked like Katrina might look (in my mind). Am I getting really sad now? I have to visualise everyone that I see. Anyway, that could be what Katrina looks like. The bloke on 3..6..9..Seconds is Stuart M isn't it? Someone told me who the girl was, but I can't remember. Anyway, just in case you were wondering, there is another 15 year old on the list. Her name is Katrina also - alkl6163(a)emirates.net.ae . She sits next to me in assembly at school and I introduced her to B&S, which was nice of me. You might be wondering why bethey hardly ever posts, unlike jong, who feels famous because he posts so much. Anyway, bethey hasn't broken up yet, so that's why. That's also why I appear and disappear - I'm normally too busy in term time - I have to look out of my window for an hour and then do a bit of homework, so that takes up lots of my time. I hope that this totally irrelevant post has helped you remember your youth. Does anyone remember Pigeon Street? It was a wicked cartoon, but no-one apart from my Mum can remember it. Well, I suppose I should do some revision for my GCSEs now (!). See you all later, jon g. jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: susan the plans they made...
by Cairns 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

Francisco suggested >and how about films that never fail to bring tears to our >sensitive eyes (cos we're all closet tear-jerks)? I remember just >non-stop bawling during Babe, that talking pig film. Bless. But I can empathise. I bawled all the way through James Taylor singing 'Fire and Rain' at the end of Running On Empty, AND at the end of Heavenly Creatures, which people really should see before they jump to nasty conclusions about the curvaceous Kate Winslet. And after Empire of the Sun, too, where the boy on the bike can't find his parents. Sob. Anybody out there fancy starting a 'Good Will Hunting is tres tres overrated (but has a top soundtrack)' thread? Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Sad Songs
by Thaian N Ton 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

Liz the lovely spouted: Lets go for a nice conventional one to begin with: Something Changed by Pulp. Possibly the least cynical and ironic song Jarvis Cocker has ever written. And it's very lovely indeed. oh! i think this is a great, great song ... esp the part that goes "when we woke up that morning, we had no way of knowing, that in a matter of hours we'd change the way were going ... where would i be now if we never met?" i used to ache so much my ribs would heave. take care all, be happy, be full of life & energy, -thaian (wee chi chi) xxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Saddest Songs
by Paige Rosella 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

It's been a while since a song made me tear up, but when I was in high school, "Verdi Cries" by 10,000 Maniacs used to do it to me every time. There I'd be, driving though town, weeping like a child. It still gets me misty every so often. As to Bethey's question about feeling like you're in a Belle and Sebastian song - never that, but I have felt, on a rare occasion, like a Jane Austen heroine - the proud girl getting her comeuppance that leads to realization. Eating a strawberry frosted pop-tart, Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
by jon g. 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

-----Original Message----- From: Nick Dastoor <nickdastoor(a)yahoo.com> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: 31 March 1998 09:55 Subject: RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family! >I think I do remember two young whippersnappers cross-legged on the >floor at the Sunday matinee. Which is confusing me, because I can't >dispel the nagging feeling that jon.g and bethey are too perfect to be >real. Have you looked at their descriptions of one another on their >webpages? If only I was that cool when I was 15. If only I were that >cool now. Why am I so obsessed with youth? > We were in the corner on the left as you go in. *jong blushes* jong is actually real, and I think bethey is too. >I have some questions I've decided to throw open to the floor. > >What is that song 'Arab Strap' that B&S did in Manchester? Is it a >(d'oh) Arab Strap cover? Only it sounded nothing like them - there was >proper singing and everything. > It is definitely not an Arab Strap song - apart from the fact that it couldn't be arab strap, it's not in their discography (have you been to www.chemikal.demon.co.uk? It's quite good). Maybe, just maybe, it's an old b-side of someone's or something and arab strap named themselves after it and b&s played it at manc. but who knows. All it says@ chemikal was that Aidan of Arab Strap (or it might have been malcolm) was in a band called arab strap before he met malcolm/aidan, so that's not much help now, is it boys and girls? >Did the name Belle and Sebastian come before or after Isobel joined? Isn't there that story that Stuart M wrote a story about Isobelle and Sebastian and then named the band that, as well as the cartoon/film etc? > >Are Belle and Sebastian still not snogging? > We haven't heard anything since Tigermilk - we know that they were the product of botched capitalism form IYFS, but nothing since (apart from the song belle & sebastian, which doesn't help). Maybe they're trying to keep their relationship covered up. >nick.d ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Leonard <cleonard(a)MURRAYJ.COM> To: 'Sinister' <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: 31 March 1998 10:38 Subject: RE: Sinister: i'll go and play with words and pictures... >Pigeon >Street had rather annoying electronic toms to represent the coo of a >pigeon, if I recall. > YES! it did - that's how I remembered about it, because me and bethey went to the theatre with her parents at new year-ish and at the climax of the emotional spectacle, they had all those pigeon street noises. I was torn between smiling at pigeon street or crying at the unfolding drama, but neither bethey nor her parents could remember pigeon street. You can still find them on most 80s Casio Keyboards - if you see one in a car boot sale or down the market, remember that if it hasn't got pigeon street sounds on it, then don't buy it. Pigeon Street will probably not be understood by: 1 - those over 20 2 - those who don't live in the uk 3 - those who have better things to think about. So, it's rather irrelevant to them, but fab to those who can remember. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Adrian Evans <aevans(a)env-dept.devon-cc.gov.uk> To: 'Sinister' <sinister-digest(a)majordomo.net> Date: 31 March 1998 12:41 Subject: Sinister: Alphabet >Y is for youngsters like Jon and Bethey Wow - we're turning up everywhere. I feel famous. I'm just going to point out again that my friend Katie, who sits next to me in school assembly is also on the list and is younger than me, but older than bethey (ie 15). Just so she doesn't feel left out. But I don't now how Katie could have been fitted in the rhyme. ------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Black-eyed Dog by Nick Drake He had to do it again and again when he was recording it, didn't he - he got so upset he couldn't sing. You can definitely hear it in his voice. It says that in the cover of 'Way To Blue' - his greatest hits album, except he didn't have any hits, so it's called 'An Introduction To Nick Drake'. It's good, by the way, if any of you without him are thinking of buying anything. Sixteen of his best tracks for �9 - a super deal. ------------------------------------------------------- Right, well that's that lot replied to. Now - would Cliff let me send it or not? I'm not sure. He seems like quite a nice man, so I'll say yes, even though most of it is irrelevant. bethey know loads about cliff, I think, or it could be my imagination. jon g. jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: sad songs
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

We're all choked up with emotion today, aren't we? I find it hard to think about stuff like this at college, which is a bit grim, frankly. However, I'll do my best. Lets go for a nice conventional one to begin with: Something Changed by Pulp. Possibly the least cynical and ironic song Jarvis Cocker has ever written. And it's very lovely indeed. Dead Bird Sings by Baby Bird. Pretty much ditto for this one, actually. Heart Of Darkness by Sparklehorse. Just gorgeous and never fails to prod the tear ducts into action. I think it's that pedal steel sound that does it. Fly by Nick Drake. "And I just sit on the ground in your way". And, it goes without saying (except that I just said it...oh sod it), many many Belle & Sebastian songs. Fox in the Snow. The slow live version of Seeing Other People. We Rule The School (oh, how beautiful is this song?). And that's just some of the _songs_. So much poetry makes me want to bawl. Or at least makes my nose ache in anticipation of crying. Anyway, that's enough for now. ByeBye, Liz (edaplynr3n00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) *********************** silence .is a looking bird: the turn ing; edge, of life (inquiry before snow e.e. cummings *********************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
by Nick Dastoor 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

I think I do remember two young whippersnappers cross-legged on the floor at the Sunday matinee. Which is confusing me, because I can't dispel the nagging feeling that jon.g and bethey are too perfect to be real. Have you looked at their descriptions of one another on their webpages? If only I was that cool when I was 15. If only I were that cool now. Why am I so obsessed with youth? I have some questions I've decided to throw open to the floor. What is that song 'Arab Strap' that B&S did in Manchester? Is it a (d'oh) Arab Strap cover? Only it sounded nothing like them - there was proper singing and everything. Did the name Belle and Sebastian come before or after Isobel joined? Are Belle and Sebastian still not snogging? nick.d > Date: 30 March 1998 14:42 > Subject: RE: Sinister: Fun for the Family! > > > >B is for Bethy and Jon, who've only just turned fifiteen, > > (jon hides embarassedly) > > me and bethey were just saying how exciting it will be next time we go > to a B&S gig, all you lot (all you grown-ups) that are there are going > to know exactly who we are and they will come pick on us. > > Did anyone notice us at the sunday matinee in Manchester? we felt like > everyone was looking at us cos we were so small, but I don't know. > The best bit was when we collected our tickets from the credit card > bloke and I had to explain to him that it was my Mum's credit card - > it was more than slightly amusing. > > [�] > > You might be wondering why bethey hardly ever posts, unlike jong, who > feels famous because he posts so much. Anyway, bethey hasn't broken > up yet, so that's why. That's also why I appear and disappear - I'm > normally too busy in term time - I have to look out of my window for > an hour and then do a bit of homework, so that takes up lots of my time. > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:53:37 +0100 > From: "Bramleys" <bramly(a)globalnet.co.uk> > Subject: Sinister:the joys of youth > > > At the next b&s concerts will everyone please not pick on us. i am > very delicate as i am vertically challenged in my extreme youth and > this prospect scares me greatly. jon is, however, very strong and > tough and will protect me by kicking his leg so that the corner of his > flares pokes you in the eye, so be scared. > > this is just to prove that i can write, as jon highlighted the fact > that i hardly ever post > > bethey > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: sad songs
by jossleag＠iol.ie 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

Yaz wrote: But, song-wise, i can never, never, never listen to Black-Eyed Dog by Nick Drake. It just has to be the most horrific song ever written. Does anyone else (apart from me an' Steve Maconie) think so too? That song is just sooo bleak. All of those last 4 are, but Black Eyed Dog is just so hard to listen to. Martha by Tom Waits never fails to upset me. About a year and a half ago, I'd just broken up with my girlfriend and she was in the next room not talking to me. I was sitting in the dark listening to Nick Drake's bryter layter and pink moon and feeling sad. I put on closing time by Tom Waits and when that song came on I was ordered to take that fucking record off. Never been able to listen to it much since. The only B&S song that makes me sad is Seeing Other People. I have to fast forward past the session version. Another girl-related incident. Or almost anything by Chet Baker. This is starting to look like some sort of confessional, so I'd better stop. Be sweet. joss _________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: it's a sad sad sad world (innit?)
by Francisco Alberto Wong 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

Firstly, a welcome aboard to the delicious Ms. Janine Papp for erstwhilely straying onto this list... she's NYC strong, yo! A friend of mine thinks that I sound like Stevie when he sings the backing for Fox In the Snow... "when your legs are feeling back and blue". gulp! and how about films that never fail to bring tears to our sensitive eyes (cos we're all closet tear-jerks)? I remember just non-stop bawling during Babe, that talking pig film--I can't really explain why. It was just the timing I guess because it was my birthday and alone in a crowded $3 theatre. Egad, that sounds salacious. francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re:sad songs
by Claire Timmins 31 Mar '98

31 Mar '98

> The Big Time by Suede. "And you're in the way." I used to always feel that. > > Letter to Hermoine by David Bowie. > > > But on a higher note. I've just found out that some research work I did on >Glaswegian last year has been picked up by the media and my boss is being >interviewed on the Big Breakfast on Thursday. Wow. I wonder if she'll >mention my name. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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