March 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: i'll admit i'm feeling strange
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 17 Mar '98

17 Mar '98

good morning sinisterines (and good evening insomniacal americans) just a few things to say based on alot of random stuff on the list. like matt, i recently purchased another beanie baby, string bean jean. i figure that i'm going for the quartet, with judy and jenny. right now, i also have jane, which was a gift. i am a little frightened at having crossed that border where i actually bought a beanie baby, but alas, she's so cute frowning at me from on top of the monitor that i can't repent. jane is still my favorite (though don't tell jean) due to her little smile, that looks like a kitty smile. and only a kitten would give that smile, as any self-respecting cat would back away. and matt, thank you for exiting the closet on the beanie baby issue. it's good to no longer be alone in the public eye. (if brian wrote, he would admit that he got a fox which he thought of as the fox in the snow, but he'll probably beat me for even saying that much, he's very violent you know). on the topic of stephin merritt and the magnetic fields, i have a web page for the band at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ i'm actually in the process of updating it, but it works pretty well anyway. and i know there are other (rather quiet) people on the list who know alot about the band. but they're definitely brilliant and i'd recommend them to b&s fans, i definitely see a similarity. i thought the chat went pretty well all things considered. and it probably is true that the ops weren't as organized as we could have been, but i'm curious as to how many people read the instructions. alot of people seemed to have absolutely no clue how to navigate the irc, though i didn't realize this until afterwards. (yes, i am an op). but really, paul spent all this time putting up very clear instructions, and the chat was announced repeatedly weeks beforehand, so i'd really suggest using that as preparation time. i don't want to get into a fight about this, i know that individual people probably had unexpected problems or were prevented from preparing, but next time, at least send a private mesage to the ops, or even a public one if you're really having a problem. so much free time left me with too much time to contemplate not so witty remarks to make in sinster, which probably made honey a bit nervous. i'm so unpredictable you know.... ;) also, i'm thinking of planning a new york picnic, perhaps in april. i'd like to know how many people would be interested in attending. please email me privately about this, because i'm sure the glasgowegians don't need to see 60 (or 5) replies with simply: me. ;) i haven't played on the swings in central park since last fall. and i'd be willing to bring my roller skates and a tape player. skating to tigermilk anyone? xox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: BMX Bandits
by Essexdog5 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

The BMX Bandits? Eeeeh, I remember when it were all tubes of Smarties 'round 'ere. We forced the deeejay to put on the E102 single (vinyle even! eek!) ten years ago at my 18th birthday. We spun around like quasi-goth fools singing "I wear my crappy anorak, so I don't catch a cold", and then the power cut out, leaving us to light candles and sing Velocity Girl to our good selves while 80 perplexed relatives smiled wanly. Well, that was Essex as I remember it. Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: pop and non-pop
by Hopkins T 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

>Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, >I just like them. That's cool. I think they're vile and that's cool too. >I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the >types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to >happen. Mmmm, it's impossible. I'm not really trying to find a word for a particular kind of music, or particular kinds of music, I'm talking about a word for a particular kind of feeling. Not just a kind of happy/sad/excited/calmed/whatever, but that feeling when something really sends you, y'know. >Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to >you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. I don't think it's toal toss (but then you do and you're right and I'm wrong, prob'ly...;-)). I'm sorry if it irritated you. Not even I am dumb enough to believe that there are objective rights and objective wrongs when it comes to music. The point I was trying to make (and clearly I should do it in a less ham-fisted way next time) was that great pop fun is to be had by taking up (relatively) arbitrary positions and holding on to them for dear life, until you get bored. This is pop, and it's not doing anybody any harm to hold a few extreme opinions on the merits of the likes of Deep Purple. I remember the excitement I felt the first time I heard Subway Sect's 'A Different Story', heard him sing 'We Oppose All Rock And Roll'. the power of saying these things is part of the great power of pop. It was important to me that I loved McCarthy and hated the March Violets (or whoever) in 1986. There's a great tradition of drawing arbitrary lines: Wyndham Lewis's Blast/Bless way back; Tom Vague did the same thing. And the famous Westwood/Rhodes T-shirt. "One day you're gonna wake up and know which side of the bed you're on". Sometimes it's fun. And I don't think I'm too off-beam in saying there's a lot of pop-good in getting up folks' noses from time to time. It's not as though I'm advocating violence or anything, or that I advocate the taking of such extreme positions outside POP! (the feeling). See, pop allows that creation of self.... And let the person who has never called a band or a record shite stand up and take the rosette for best liberal of the year. Ten years ago I would have spat 'hippy' at the endof that sentence. I shan't today. See, I have grown up a bit. 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Sinister: FAN CLUB, MERCHANDISE NOTICE
by David & Katrina 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

we have just recovered the 1,500 missing e-mails . . . . . . these include hundreds of questions and orders. we will be getting back to everyone one at a time, those of you who have ordered items will be given priority. while those with questions will have to wait a week or three for a response. please be patient whilst we work through the backlog of work. thanks david kitchen ps: the address bluesoda(a)totalweb.co.uk is now fully operational, but feel free to mail the other address (d.kitchen(a)virgin.net) if that makes you feel better. pps: because of the multitude of orders, we have now sold out of the large blue shirt and enamel badges. we'll send you all an update when we hear about the new shirts and such stuff. -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda@totalweb.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: cackpop
by Alan Prior 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

--Adrian Evans went to see the Montrose Avenue on Saturday...Hmmmm. Just one word of warning, popkids: they've got the ex-drummer out of Menswear in them. Not good enough for Menswear? I think that says it all, really... Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Monday Poem
by poetry place2 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

Ok! I was bound to get round to Carol Ann Duffy sometime in the Monday poem. A lot of us reckon she'll be the next Poet Laureate when Big Ted pops his clogs. This is one of her most famous poems, but I've chose it cos it's also my favourite. It's fairly self-explanatory. It's from her last collection "Mean Time", published by Anvil, which came out a coupla years ago and won every prize going... Trousers xxxxx The Poetry Society Website: http://www.poetrysoc.com Carol Ann Duffy Warming Her Pearls Next to my own skin, her pearls. My mistress bids me wear them, warm them, until evening when I'll brush her hair. At six, I place them round her cool, white throat. All day I think of her, resting in the Yellow Room, contemplating silk or taffeta, which gown tonight? She fans herself whilst I work willingly, my slow heat entering each pearl. Slack on my neck, her rope. She's beautiful. I dream about her in my attic bed; picture her dancing with tall men, puzzled by my faint, persistent scent beneath her French perfume, her milky stones. I dust her shoulders with a rabbit's foot, watch the soft blush seep through her skin like an indolent sigh. In her looking-glass my red lips part as though I want to speak. Full moon. Her carriage brings her home. I see her every movement in my head... Undressing, taking off her jewels, her slim hand reaching for the case, slipping naked into bed, the way she always does... And I lie here awake, knowing the pearls are cooling even now in the room where my mistress sleeps. All night I feel their absence and I burn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: maybe B&S related - BMX Bandits
by barzy＠networkmags.com 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

>Keith wrote: >There is a connection here in that they did go on the radio with Duglas once >for an interview. I'm sure there'll be some people who'll disagree with me, >but in my opinion the BMX bandits are a complete load of shite - I wouldn't >be paid to listen to their records never mind actually hand over money to >buy one. Hard to describe what they're like... really weak, neutered pop >songs? Something like that. > >Cheers, > Keith. Todd, While Keith's opinion is valued, and not taken at all personally....I must beg to differ...yes...begging is so bla these days... I know...But hey. I say, snatch the BMX Bandits CD up, and if you think it's shite...pass it on to someone who's day it will surely brighten. Duglas, the lead singer, kind of sounds like Kermit The Frog...and all the songs are sunny and warm....They've always cheered me up when i'm down and in my most penniless moment, wouldn't ever *think* of parting with any BMX Banditos. No can do. Try it, you may like it.....You either love um or hate um. I love um. Keith hates um. The world goes round. Tra la. Another connection is...on tour Stevie from Belle & Sebastian played guitar with BMX Bandits on their last tour, and sang a song even! *sigh* A good time was had by most. ;) Kylie's got a crush on me. beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: BMX Bandits
by Mark Hester 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

Todd asked about BMX Bandits and the short answer is "covers, covers and more covers". They are perhaps the best known most successful covers band that does not call itself a tribute band and enter a bad pun contest in the process (Bjorn Again, No Way Sis, anyone?) but fair's fair, they do at least have the decency to cover a wide variety of artists' songs. My mate Duncan, who is an authority on music of all kinds, a brilliant drummer and someone who must suffer from Burning Ear Syndrome the number of times I mention him on various mailing lists , tells me that even the classic 'Kylie's Got a Crush on Us' is a cover, though his usual brilliance in such matters is somewhat tarnished by the fact that he does not know who did the original. Anyway, I've seen BMX Bandits live, though it was quite a while ago, I think '94. They were very entertaining. I think the singer was called Doug. They covered a couple of Big Audio Dynamite songs then 'Hip Neck and Thigh' and 'Light up my Life'. Doug (if that was his name) introduced these songs by saying they were 'songs by a friend of his', making me wonder whether he really knew Mick Jones. They did a song called 'Serious Drugs' and followed it up with "KGACOU" with the neat link "that song was a bit dodgy, now here's a song about someone really wholesome". The gig was at the sadly-missed Jericho Tavern, an intimate Oxford music venue which has now become a Firkin pub, prompting the kind of anarchic action 'a boy' advocates! Many now famous Oxford bands played there; Supergrass when they were the Jennifers, Radiohead when they were On a Friday (one of two bands to be a right headache for publicity , the other being the 25th of May). Bad BMX Bandits moment- every band has one- a couple of years ago they did a TRULY AWFUL version of Jonathan Richman's 'That Summer Feeling'. Leave well alone. I've seen Jonathan as well; he was ace, though he didn't do 'Roadrunner' or 'TSF' he played all his other classics. OK, I've rambled a bit but I hope I've answered Todd's question even if I can put any ambitions of a career in rock journalism on hold.... Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester(a)elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Bandits, etc
by Ruth McCurry 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

Keith is a bit harsh on the BMX Bandits. They have some lovely - if slightly silly - songs. OK there are some downright bad ones as well, but few bands can match the sheer bathetic majesty of Top Shop Girl (to be found on the C86 album). I don't really know what bathetic means, but it's a beautiful word. Saw Guy Chadwick on Friday night at the Garage in London. Most of his solo stuff was dull, but he did three cool old ones: I Don't Know Why I Love You, The Girl with the Boniest Thighs, and The Eagles and Ramones. It must be rather sad to get huge roars of approval for your old band's stuff and only polite applause for your new songs. Mind you, he didn't seem too bothered. Lots of love, Pocketbook David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Owen Meany
by Paige Rosella 16 Mar '98

16 Mar '98

Let me put in my vote for A Prayer for Owen Meany...it is spectacular. Not to mention it's the rare book that doesn't subreference his other works (i.e. the dancing bear motif, or the hotel motif...). I just reread it over the holidays, and I was blown away all over again. I grew up near where the book takes place, so it's extra special to me. I like to think his books might make it into the Canon someday, but I know I'm dreaming. Irving's other books are good, too - but this is his crowning achievement. YOUR MOTHER HAS THE BEST BREASTS OF ALL THE MOTHERS, PAIGE ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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