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Sinister: sad stuff
by nickie 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

on the subject of sad stuff. i think the saddest thing i ever saw was a section of the John Lennon documentary 'Imagine.' John hears that there's some chap's been camping out on his lawn for a couple of days (he's living in a mansion/stately home type rich person's abode so he hasn't noticed the guy on the grounds or anything). so John gets someone to call the boy up to the house. The next thing you see is the boy standing outside the house with John talking to him...giving out to him really. John is trying to explain that there's nothing godly or even interesting about himself...he's just a man...those songs he wrote are just words, they weren't written for the boy - they were written only with John, or maybe even Yoko in mind. The little camper just looks slightly stunned, and very bedraggled from sleeping rough in his idol's garden...he's also trying not to cry next scene, john and yoko and the boy are sitting around a table eating lunch...the boy is obviously starving cos he's eating really ravenously with his hands and the other two are just looking at him...John keeps repeating what he's said...he's being pretty harsh but i guess it's a real pain for him to have people following him all the time(see Mark Chapman for details)...the sad thing is the look on the boy's face. it's a mixture of feeling stunned and euphoric to be inside John Lennon's house, actually in the company of the person who he's loved for years and years and who's company he probably always imagined being in, and then sadness because he's realising that the dream he had was exactly that and his whole world is collapsing...he's still fighting back the tears...makes me cry every time... but then again i have a very bad record for crying at films...see "The Land Before Time" for details...bear in mind that my mum used to turn on "Lassie" when visitors came round so that they could laugh at me crying...that show killed me every time...it got to the point where i started crying at the sound of the opening notes cos i just kept remembering all the times when Lassie nearly died...or saved that poor deaf child from a burning treehouse etc.... of course now i've grown into a hardened cynical old hag and these things don't effect me at all anymore...no really...sob. nickie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: something un-asked (he hopes)
by Euan Leitch 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

i couldn't agree more with what mr nick says about jon & bethey. i went to your website yesterday and i'm still reeling from how lovely you both are. if wee-ness is the key, i want to be mike tv. sad songs (is by e john!) - every time i hear the first tap of the taambourine in *you made me forget my dreams* a tear wells in my eye, but they recently spilled over listening to *tracy* by mogwai. i was on the train home to edinburgh from london and i was listening to it as i crossed the border and it was the first spring dusk i had noticed. it all seemed to overcome me. i always cry at the fiddler on the roof, film&music but that might be because my dad always cried at it, and he never cried. i recently started to bubble telling some stangers about the end of manon des scource. and just the thought of dr zhivago floods me. the un-asked b&s q? where did they record the children at the start of iyfs, and who is the wee boy shouting *c'moan* that i could listen to on a loop for eternity? the list has become worth escaping to again. huzzah. uan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: happy
by Johnston, John CT 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

I was thinking that I can instantly think of sad songs and songs that make me cry but then I thought what about the other end of the spectrum.... Sad songs say so much and all that but what with Summer Time now upon us (even if it isn't Summertime yet) and the picnic season fast approaching (Yippeeee!!!) I'd like to mention that sometimes music can (whisper it!!) make you impossibly happy. Some songs make me grin from start to finish and revel in every second of their duration. These tend to be Disco classics and above all "Disco Inferno". There's such an epic majesty to that song but for one purpose and one purpose only - to get people moving on the dancefloor. Its intentions are clear and its methods are ruthless; strings, percussion, trumpets, cymbals and guitars dedicated to making you forget anything that was wrong, accentuating the positive and eliminating the negative. If I had had any part in the recording or production of that song I would consider my life well lived and every time I hear it start a smile spreads across my lips. Who needs drugs when you've got Disco!!! A lot of the songs I love say nothing to me about my life. And I think "Thank God for that" - if every song I heard said "You are a balding computer programmer who'll never find a girlfriend" life would be a right pickle. xx John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: stuff
by jane＠cola.net 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

hi pop tarts i've got a sad story to tell. well, actually it's a happy story with a sad ending. here goes... (this is the happy bit) i just got some photos developed and there's this one of me at an in-store record signing (Gaslight records, Bourke Street, Melbourne) with the wondrous Stereolab. The next night i saw them play and it was a tremendously joyous occasion. This is all very happy (the sad bit's coming up). Y'see living in Australia, the chance of seeing a nice band is akin to one of those religious sitings (you know when some farmer from naples sees the image of jesus in his pumpkin patch) ie. it's (a) very rare and (b) treated by devotees like a gift from god. In any case me and my friends get extremely excited when anybody comes to play for us. yo la tengo were also here last month which set all our hearts aflutter. nevertheless, it's tres sad for us pop kids whose favourite bands can't afford to travel all the way across the ocean to play with us. anyway the point is i love b&s and loads of other lovely bands (too numerous to mention) heaps and heaps and it makes me sad to hear you talking about them with such familiarity. (but don't stop, it brightens my day to read b&s tales). there's only one record shop in the whole city which even stocks b&s records and you have to buy them on import (approx. $35 for a record, $15 for a 7 inch). do you all feel sorry for me yet and love me more for my isolation? hope so. a-oh! (we just got teletubbies - although absolutely no one has heard of it) jane. hmm - would cliff send this? better ask my mum, she used to be in the cliff richard fan club when she was 15. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: its just filth, don't read it.
by susannah 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

Well, yes I did do the sleaze quiz, and did manage to beat Keith by a whopping 6 points. But I didn't do it by having anal sex, I'd just like to point that out now. So, it was a fun quiz, but not exactly Belle and Sebastian related, and so, with my warped litle mind , I've come up with the following: How BelleandSebastian sleazy are you? This is for adults only, any kids on the list please leave the room now. 1) Have you ever fantasised about 'doing it' with any members of Belle and Sebastian? One point for each member, two points if they're the same sex as you, and a bonus 5 points if you've fantasised about more than one of them at the same time. 2) Have you actually indulged in self-gratification whilst fantasising about a member of BelleandSebastian? Two points for each member, double for same sex, ten points for Richard or Sarah. Bonus five if they are still playing their instruments. 3) Have you ever fantasised about doing it with another list member? One point for each one, bonus 5 points if you've fantasised about more than one of them at the same time, and a whopping ten point bonus if it was Northy or Begbie. 4) Do you genuinely believe that Stuart Murdoch is gay? One point. Bonus 5 points if you'd LIKE him to be gay because it turns you on. 5) Are you gay? One point. 6) Have you ever indulged in self-gratification whilst listening to Belle and Sebastian records? One point for each song listened to, bonus ten points if it was 'Me and the Major'. 7) Have you ever had an erotic dream about a member of Belle and Sebastian? 5 points for each member. Bonus 5 points for Richard or Stevie. 8) Have you ever had sex whilst listening to Belleand Sebastian? Five points for each time, Ten points for 'Me andtheMajor' and Twenty if it was up the arse. 9) Have you ever met any of BelleandSebastian? Two points for each one, five if it was Isobel or Stuart M, ten if physical body contact took place, twenty if you touched Stuart M's gearstick or saw him in shorts. 10) Have you ever 'got off' with a list member? Five points, double if Northy or Begbie, ten points for actual penetrative sex. Fifty if it was up the arse. And you can double that if it was Tag. 11) Have you ever got off with a member of BelleandSebastian? Ten points, fifty for sex, and disqualification if it was up the arse cos you're a liar. 12) Have you ever sent porn to any member of Belleand Sebastian? One thousand points. Finally, give yourself a Bonus 50 points each time foxes are involved. susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: this is just filth, don't read it Part II
by susannah 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

Oh, yeah, the results: <5 you're probably under 16 and I told you not to read it. 6-20 Could do better, you want to listen to 'Seeing other People' a bit more often. 20-50 You're pretty sleazy, a couple more erotic dreams and you'll be doing OK 50-1000 Keith, tag, paul, I expect you to be in this bracket 1000+ Is your name Stuart david? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: alright then
by bradford 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

okay. haven't written in for a couple of days cause i have now joined the ranks of a lot of you on this list. i got a new job where i sit in front of a fucking computer all day. i'm an operator. as in telephone operator. i'm the 411 guy. unlike others, i don't mind all the off topic crap that gets posted to this list, but there does seem to be a hell of a lot more of it lately. did we have a bunch of new subscribers lately, paul? or is there nothing good on the tube? and for those of you who put down good will hunting....i think one of you called it trite.....i won't even go the way of saying "well, in my opinion" and all that....i'm just gonna say "you're wrong". it is a very good movie. and i'm a sucker for minnie driver. and while i was watching the oscars, my eyes teared up when robin williams won supporting actor, and i don't even like robin williams. and i would never fork out money for a movie that cost 200 million to make (titanic) cause that says you're just gonna get a bunch of special effects and a love story that i'm sure has been told before. and elliot smith is my new hero lately. i just recently got his first album and i've had the others for a while. but someone, hell, i can't remember who, remarked to me the similarity between him and ol' nick drake and i have to agree. so any movie that puts seven or eight elliot smith songs in it is a ok in my books. in summary, 1. new job 2. an influx of off topic crap 3. good will hunting is marvelous 4. i haven't seen it, but titanic is crap 5. elliot smith is neat-o -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: sad sad songs
by Rob B 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

greetings people my my the list is active at the moment... i've just waded my way through about 100 e-mails from you lot, so i've decided to inflict my selection of tear-inducing ballads upon you. mazzy star - fade into you (again!) b&s - boy done wrong again, you made me forget my dreams madder rose - while away, swim primal scream - you're just dead skin to me ..*sob* galaxie 500 - spook mojave 3 - love songs on the radio, you're beautiful, etc... boo radleys - lazarus, spaniard slowdive - shine, altogether telescopes - you set my soul (my shoegazing days are haunting me again) trembling blue stars - i'm tired, i've tried i'm sure there are more - none come to mind at the moment though i think almost all of my favourite songs are sad - i don't know why, but i can't get as much out of a happy, uplifting song as i can out of a heart-rendingly sad, beautiful one - i'm not sure what that says about me - maybe i should get out more - but never mind. love to all rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Fun for the Family!
by Tara Widmer 01 Apr '98

01 Apr '98

in a really very lovely post Rod wrote: <<It matters not how good a piece of music is. It is what is reminds you off that makes you like it.>> ...which has, for better or worse, given me the cojones to write that one song which makes me go all tight in the chest and misty eyed is "being Boring" by Pet Shop Boys. I'm not even a big fan, it's just, when i hear this, I get The Lowest Saddest Feeling... Ever in my heart. Then seeing the video didn't help... ironically, all these young beautiful people happy and in love, upset me even more! > >most people get completely wrong impressions about what people are going to look like before they see their picture/meet them. So, has anybody ever been pleasantly surprised in this regard? do tell... I'm curious I met this girl who I chatted with on AOL, and the weirdest bit was that not only did we look so much alike, but we were dressed the same way, same hair - everything! and it's odd because I thought, she's so pretty!! but when I look at myself I think, oh nothing special... looking forward to the Spice show review... taracita ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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