June 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Ulysses 31, Battle of the Planets, etc.
by iles＠boreas.leeds.icnet.uk 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

>From: Mark Smith <mark.smith2(a)christ-church.oxford.ac.uk> >Shocking allegation for the sinister list... > >> The cartoon B&S was on BBC. >> It was around the period of such highbrow cartoon series as Dogtanian & the >> Three Muskahounds, 80 Days Around the World and Ulysses. I always tired of >> Dangermouse, but never of such challenging cartoon series that were so >> close to the books. BBC kids programmes always outclassed ITV. > >The appeal of Dangermouse was that it tested the limits of the genre of >cartoon animation: it never patronised or played it safe (eg the "custard >episode", or that one which was a spoof of "Fantastic Voyage" set in >Colonel K's body). Exactly. Much of it was derivative. A lot was poached from the old Warner brothers cartoons, including the characters running off the edge of the film strip. And the Fantastic Voyage episode was nicked from Fantastic Voyage, obviously. >The dubbed Belgian cartoons which you mention took the >general idea of the novels upon which they were based, but only as a >jumping-off point for a series of linear, generic cartoon adventures. I >don't really think "challenging" is the word. I beg to differ. Ulysses 31 hardly used the novel as the basis for a linear derivative storyline. The characters were transposed into the 31st Century. Apart from having the same names and trying to get home, as Odysseus/Ulysses was, the storylines were good. And they certainly never gave the impression of being aimed at children. The baddies could be _very_ creepy and even the spaceship they lived in was pretty unwelcoming - it always looked very cold and blue and echoey. And the music was great - anyone remember that. The whole series was very reminiscent of the Manga/Anime films from Japan which are now popular over here. Battle of the Planets was another early example of this type of animation on children's TV. And if we're talking surreal, many of the BBC's programmes didn't just wander off inot the surreal; they were there from the outset. Bagpuss - a load of stuffed toys come to life to fix something. Mr Benn - a man in a suit and bowler hat spends his days going to a costume shop and 'having adventures' with the shopkeeper. The Magic Roundabout goes without saying. And Bod - surely the creator of Bod can't have been entirely sane (even though he probably came from Poland, or something). And it was the BBC who showed Monkey. Need I say more? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles(a)boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, "Libraries gave us power" LS9 7TF Manic Street Preachers U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Play misty for me
by poetryplace2 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

Blimey. There I was listening to the monsters of alternative rock on London's fairly shoddy xfm last night, and just as I'm drifting off to sleep (and a rather strange dream about Tanita Tikaram... don't ask) some dj comes on and says "well, I don't normally take requests, but i just got an email from Mark Casarotto, who wants me to play a record for David, Katrina and the whole Sinister list, who've been just smashing recently". He then plays David Holmes' "Don't Die Just Yet". I've never had a request on the radio before, but counting myself as a Sinisterkid, I felt all warm and tingly. Mr Biondino, we salute you! Trousers xxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Outdoor pissers, Toilet cubicles, Bogsheds
by Keith Watson 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

>Just to change the subject - Sarah, I have never met (you know what I mean) anyone as enthusiastic as you, >ever. You rock. Ah, youth.... Hell's bell's Sarah, you go flying from apathetic to enthusiastic in the space of about 2 weeks, that's pretty good going. Anyway, bought the Ultrasound single that's out this week for interests sake, and unfortunately... it's crap. However, it's kind of amusing in a strange sort of a way. The title track is garbage, but the second track is a sort of punk pisstake. I can't remember the words right now, but it's pretty funny. The third track is a thoroughly unneccessary version of Neil Young's Hey Hey My My, it's almost exactly the same as the original, however, the bit where he goes "This is the story of Johnny Rotten", and usually Crazy Horse come in singing "Johnny Rotten, Johnny Rotten" in the background, in comes some troup of choirboys singing it which had me fall off my seat at work. It's terrible, but it is funny, so it wasn't two quid totally wasted. I might try and make it down for the London do this time, maybe take a long weekend then perhaps, unless that's the longest day weekend, in which case, I'll be in Glasgow. Does anyone know which weekend it is? Indeed we could have a meet up in Glasgow for that I suppose, sounds like a decent enough plan, anyone up for it? Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: london picnic - blue soda social - brighton picnic
by blue soda 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

-- another london picnic, though this time at another location on 21st june (sunday) we will be meeting outside highbury and islington tube/br station at around 2pm. the picnic itself will be held on highbury fields behind the 'garage' where the large tree strewn playing fields and small children's park mean that it probably befits our needs better. the soccer won't have to be too far from the picnic and the small park has more convenient access to loo's. also (and probably more importantly) it's a shorter walk to the off-license. all the rest of the details remain the same - bring some food for the spread, yourself, a friend, some games and a smile. everyone is invited without exception - in fact we'll be pleased to see you as it's nice to see new faces. the picnic will finish around dusk, and may move on to one of the local pubs until closing time. if you need more details visit http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/picnics.htm -- there is a social this friday. at the usual venue in covent garden (the poetry café) we will be bringing you a feast of live music (care of erland and downstairs), games and socialising (care of us & yourself and upstairs). all for a mere £2.50. we hope that a few of you more bashful listees will find time to come down now summer has kicked in a bit more and exams have mostly ended. -- there will be a brighton picnic, we're working on the details. the two options are either; a train from victoria - meet at victoria then just get a cheap day return ticket and picnic on the beach or near the pier. a minibus from central london somewhere - we all pay a small advance fee and then hire a minibus (problem is the restricted numbers!), and then a picnic on the beach :) could anyone interested mail me and let me know, also let me know which of the travel options would suit you more and which sunday in july is most convenient (12th, 19th or 26th?). -- that's about it, i'm going back to my little hole now and i'll see of you when i come out for the social on friday david kitchen -- -=- http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ - fanclub - fiction - lyrics - merchandise - records - competitions - - poetry - IRC chat - voting booth - FAQ - picnics - socials - news - mailto:d.kitchen@virgin.net mailto:bluesoda@totalweb.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: FW: Notification: Inbound Mail Failure - Message could not be processed
by Paul Fisher 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

This message did not reach its intended recipient. Please remove entries for Murray Johnstone from your mailing list. Thanks, Systems Administrator >-----Original Message----- >From: System Administrator [SMTP:postmaster@MURRAYJ.COM] >Sent: 02 June 1998 16:16 >To: Postmaster >Subject: Notification: Inbound Mail Failure - Message could not be processed > > >The message that caused this notification was: > > > Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk by cardhu.murrayj.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id MS3V9BP3; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:16:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21898; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:08:14 +0100 Received: by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:08:10 +0100 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA21872 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:08:07 +0100 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA21868 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:08:05 +0100 From: Ayacolor(a)aol.com Received: from Ayacolor(a)aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id NMFAa14706 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c41ccd0.35741538(a)aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:07:35 EDT To: sinister(a)majordomo.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Sinister: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?U2luaXN0ZXIbJEIhJyVIJSYlLSVnJSYlVCUvJUslQyUvISkbKEpUb2t5byBwaWt1IG5pa2t1?= Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 33 Reply-To: Ayacolor(a)aol.com X-List: Sinister Tokyo picnic Sounds nice? I gonna go back to TYO in July 7th Let's picnic!! RU interesting in FUJI Rock Festival? Let me know if you up to picnic and festival. Keep on rockin' Colorful Aya ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. .. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". .. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see .. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister .. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net .. Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Right, you've asked for it...
by Mark Casarotto 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

Hello everyone, I've just come back from the pub on the night before going back into the studio, which entails getting up at 5 to 6 in the morning and then looking after 2 sets of screaming kids for 10 hours. Great! However, I couldn't let this opportunity pass me by - I mean, when else do I regale everyone with meaningless blather which goes nowhere for no reason (eh?)...? Kid's TV - as it's my job at the moment, I should urge all of you Britishers who have Sky to watch "games World" at 7.30 am each morning - it's a bit tacky, but kind of a laugh, and the bored kids you can see in the background are my responsibility!!! View at your peril... Anyway, as I was saying - I agree with Dan (I think it was) about Bagpuss - genius through and through (while I was watching it, the mice in the mouse organ were my favourites, but now that I'm older, Marion and Gabriel (the toad - is that right?) have the most appeal. Emily was a bit too shadowy for my liking, although at 24 I have a real fetish for girls called Emily, so perhaps that's a weird subconscious thing... More my style was Bod (and that frog with the orchestra) and Chorlton and the Wheelies, for real pants-wetting, unable-to-sleep-for-3-days thrills. That witchy chick has made me the neurotic fellow I am today, I'm convinced. And I owe my current straight edge lifestyle to the sight of Zammo McGuire snorting H off the locker room floor in Grange Hill (okay, maybe not that straight edge, but it did put me right off heroin). Kids' TV rules. Just to change the subject - Sarah, I have never met (you know what I mean) anyone as enthusiastic as you, ever. You rock. Ah, youth.... Enough already (sit down and eat your schikse (sp.) - you're not the gentleman I was expecting!), love and evryfing, Mark. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: MOtor Scooters
by Lzylnepntr＠aol.com 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

hello everyone....i'm looking to build a little motor scooter, the kind where you stand and have handlebars, not a vespa...i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find some plans or diagrams to help me along here, i guess it's a scooter(the kind where you stand and push yourself along) but with a little motor on the back( a weedwacker or chaisaw motor)...email me back if you have any suf=ggestions y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Close Lobsters
by Matthew Neimark 03 Jun '98

03 Jun '98

Close Lobsters song "Never Seen Before" is brilliant. Other great bands from this era that many of you may not have heard about: Shop Assistants, Crash (esp. "Bright Coloured Lights"), Emily, Catapult, Groovy Little Numbers, ... oh I could go on and on (but I don't have that tape that Dave of Season records made a few years back that was on the wrong speed). Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Duckula, Dangermouse, & Close Lobsters
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 02 Jun '98

02 Jun '98

Mark Smith wrote some stuff following on from some other stuff: > Count Duckula the series was in fact a spin-off from Dangermouse - Duckula > was a villain with whom the great DM locked horns on at least on occasion. Ooh, I didn't know that! How exciting! Not only is Sinister lovely and full of beautiful sparkly people, it is also highly informative. Gosh, and I thought I'd seen all the Dangermouse there was to be seen...I've even got a video of some of the episodes still. Classy stuff. > The Duckula who had his own series, I have to say, was far inferior to > that from the Dangermouse series, who was if my memory serves, a would-be > thespian who only really wanted to be famous. Duckula as a series wasn't as good as Dangermouse either. It was always limited rather by the vampire thing, whereas The Chief Rodent himself had that superhero thing going on, and so could go off into outer space and battle with aliens for an episode, then return to foil the evil plans of Greenback and his dim henchman Stiletto in the next. > (Just out of lurking as we've finally hit upon a subject very close to my > heart - I used to want to _be_ Dangermouse!) I've got a soft spot for Penfold, personally. The poor wee thing that he is. Au revoir, Liz. ****************** l (a le af fa ll s) one l iness e.e.cummings ******************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The time has come...
by Martin Conneely 02 Jun '98

02 Jun '98

Anna_Chapman wrote: "It must take time and experience to become as good as some of you." That's the most sublimely insulting use of "some" I've come across. Especially since even those some are only "good" :-) I reckon there are 3 or 4 who are great at times. Martin C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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