July 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: slow songs / shoegazing / lots of rubbish really
by rob b 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

dear all sorry, this is quite long... > Reid wrote: > > I am one of those detractors. I believe I gave it a two. It's amazing > how such a great song can sound so bad. Am I the only one who's > bothered by how off-key ALL THREE of them are? The idea of doing is > slow is good, and I love the end bit (where no one's singing), but they > just didn't pull it off. Maybe with a little more practice, it can live > up to it's potential. > > YES! I think I gave the slow version a 1. It is quite mediocre, off key, and > I find myself getting a headache when I listen to it. I think that song has > to naturally go fast. Just as a side note as long as we're criticizing, I > don't much like "You Made Me Forget My Dreams." The only good part of that > song is the little reward at the end when it suddenly gets funky no no no no no no nooo... the slow version is fantastic, sooo much better than the original. i gave that and 'you made me forget my dreams' 10 points a piece, or at least 9. the 'iyfs' version of 'seeing other people' is great, and although it didn't hit me as being wonderful at first listen (unlike 'dylan...' 'fox in the snow' etc.) i grew to love the bouncy peanuts piano intro (which they nicked off Love, i'm sure..) and the slightly naughty lyrics. but then, when i got hold of the session version, my god, it was the most perfect piece of music ever! it doesn't matter that they aren't perfectly in tune - it's a live recording, you can't expect perfection - plus, it adds character i think. anyway, 'you made me forget my dreams' is really lovely, particularly when the tambouriney thing starts up towards the end of the song. and i'm not convinced by the little funky bit at the end - it makes me laugh though, so it doesn't matter i suppose. Melissa wrote re: shoegazing: > the most perfect example of the ultimate shoegazer band, IMHO, is Slowdive. > Some silly brit journalist did a live review of, I believe, Slowdive > (correct me if I'm wrong, anyone) and commented on how when they played they > were all constantly gazing at their shoes...so of course another one of > those ever-so-handy labels was born.... well, i was on the slowdive mailing list for a while, never bringing up the courage to post anything, but one of the topics of discussion was indeed the term 'shoegazing'. apparently, they feel very hard done by, as it's not their shoes that are so interesting, it's more the bizarre array of weird and wonderful foot pedals that adorn the stage of every hard-core shoegazing act, in order to create the strange whooshing noises that seem to play such an important part of their music. so you can't blame them for looking earthwards i say. Keith, in his encyclopaedic history of British P!O!P!, wrote: > Verve were good too - a lot of people will disagree with me on that one i agree whole-heartedly. 'she's a superstar' is one of my favouritest songs ever. it's so so good. and that blue album, can't remember what it's name is, oh yes, 'a storm in heaven'. that's great that is - a bit strange in places, but it's got some fantastic bits on it. 'history' was a great song too, and their new stuff's not bad, quite pleasant to listen to. i think i preferred them sans 'the' though. someone mentioned the telescopes. 'you set my soul' is a truly gorgeous song by them, and will be on my tape tree tape without a doubt (unless of course i get death threats via e-mail from other members of the tree). i only have one of their albums, and am not sure how many they did, but they are definitely worth checking out. and the boo radleys too, they're great. i've seen them live about four times - i didn't think much of 'wake up boo', a bit TOO P!O!P if you see what i mean, but 'giant steps' is out of this world, as is much of 'everything's alright forever'. James Errington wrote: > Mark! Well done! Anyone else love Madder Rose? I saw them last year, and > they were... ...oooh, so good! (but my friends hated them) Does anyone know > about their new / not very new anymore album? I cant find it anywhere. i love madder rose, at least their early stuff. 'swim' is divine, as is most of that 'bring it down' album - i'm not sure how many albums they've had since - i only have one other album of theirs, and i can't remember its name. so i'm not much use really, am i? anyway, this has turned out much longer than i was expecting, so i'll be gone now, and stop boring you all. bye bye rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . 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Sinister: Flint Cullett
by Adrian Evans 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

PJMiller wrote : >Adrian, what do you mean, CATCH THE PIGEON? Oh god, it was merely one of my moments. I had made previous references to Wacky Races in that message and wanted to end it ...well obviously I wanted to end it "STOP THE PIGEON" but it kind of came out wrong, and I couldn't think of who to ask to "STOP THE PIGEON" so I thought...I know who's the daftest bugger on the list... But don't worry about it now Peter, it was almost 24 hours ago (probably) and the pigeon will have long since flown to warmer climes...or died. As for the Living Room, I haven't been in ages...don't know if the Dukes running it anymore. I have no money I have no life I want no pity just your money. In fact the last time i went was probably to see Jim "Lee Hurst" Shepherd with my Kate.......... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Here's tricks
by Nick Dastoor 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Another thing to do if you are bored is to go to the current month's Sinister archive: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current and choose to view postings by author. In particular, it is interesting to see which people are egotistical enough to always start their own thread, or at least their own subject line, and which are reactive, collaborative sorts whose messages are always replies to other people's posts. For example, evil Mark Casaratto (of whom I am now more terrified than ever) is a classic big show-off with not a "Re:" to his name, whereas A.M "Horney" espadrille, despite posting more mail than Readers Digest, is a model of reactive wet-blanketness. I am a nicely balanced mix of the two. I am best. I should stress that this is only something worth doing if you are very *very* bored. But you probably guessed that already. xxx Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Richard Connell 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Being new to the joys of Belle and Sebastian (I only have If You're Feeling Sinister) I was wondering if any of you kind souls could answer a few questions for me, either on the mailing list or privately: 1) What LPs/Singles/EPs have B&S released and which ones are available and where? (3 questions for the price of one) 2) What is all this tape tree malarkey about? Thanks in advance for any help I may receive. Seeing as the only contribution i've made to this list so far is inane questions I thought i'd write my first non-inquisitive thing and give you my top ten lyrisists of the modern age (in no particular order). 1) Neil Hannon of The Divine Comedy (anyone who writes a song about Mr Benn is ok in my books) 2) The fella out of B&S (showing my ignorance in not knowing his/their name, sorry) 3) Ian Brown/John Squire (for the first Stone Roses album alone) 4) Tricky ("IF you believe or deceive then common sense says you shouldn't receive" as just one example of his genius) 5) Paul Heaton (Am I alone in thinking that The Housemartins are the most under- rated bands of the 80s) 6) Michael Stipe (Swan Swan Hummingbird?!?!?!?) 7) Gruff Rhys From Super Furry Animals (for his twisted references) 8) Beth Gibbons from Portishead (just because) 9) Kristen Hirsch ("This hairdo is truly evil", take a bow) 10) Blokes from Gomez (no reason, just my current favourites) There you have it, and anyone who disagrees with me can...er, can,..well, they can. As for the list crushes, i've not been on long enough to develop one but its only a matter of time i expect. Rich "Move on, there's nothing to see here, move o...Oh my god, a plane crash. Look everybody, there's wreckage and fire and everything" - Police Chief Wiggum ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Madder Rose & Emile Zola
by James Errington 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Mark Casarotto Wrote... > 7. "sTop (the love you save)" - Madder Rose version Mark! Well done! Anyone else love Madder Rose? I saw them last year, and they were... ...oooh, so good! (but my friends hated them) Does anyone know about their new / not very new anymore album? I cant find it anywhere. But..... enough top 10s already! You dont all want to end up like the characters in Nick Hornby's 'High Fidelity' do you? Anyway, while I'm on the subject of fiction, I've just been reading 'His Masterpiece' by Emile Zola and I've found this paragraph whose relevance to the modern music press is uncanny: 'No doubt, public stupidity is boundless, and I am quite willing that you should trade on it. Only I remember the first starts that we old fellows had. Dash it! We were not spoiled like that, I can tell you. We had ten years' labour and struggle before us ere we could impose on people a picture the size of your hand; whereas nowadays the first hobbledehoy who can stick a figure on it's legs makes all the trumpets of publicity blare. And what kind of publicity is it? A hullabaloo from one end of France to the other, sudden reputations that shoot up of a night, and burst upon one like thunderbolts, amid the gaping of the throng. And I say nothing of the works themselves, those works announced with salvoes of artillery, awaited amid a delirium of impatience, maddening Paris for a week, and then falling into everlasting oblivion!' Doesn't that just say it! Zola comes very well recommended from me (unlike Nick Hornby, to be honest) WeeJay - Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 james(a)twopounds.u-net.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Looper locations
by MWaggner＠aol.com 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

If you can't find the Looper near you, Secret Sounds in CT has a enough -- you can order them at shop(a)secretsounds.com or you can mail the store at secretlp(a)aol.com. The store is trustworthy, honest, loyal, brave and true... they usually mail things out the next day, packed really securely. They don't mess around saying they have things they don't. just an f.y.i. --michele ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: The Fox and the Boxer
by PJMiller 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Dear Christopher Alexander Leonard, I'm Lenny Waronker (gee! two Leonards, huh!?) of Dreamworks, the guys who brought you "The Peacemaker", starring George Clooney and Nicole Kidman. I've been lurking on the list for some time, mainly 'cos I heard that my kids keep getting mentioned by some wierd guy called Trousers. Anyway, I'd like to buy your idea for a million bucks and turn it into a terrific movie with animated foxes and live action boxers, just like Mary Poppins! How about it, Big Tackle? Lenny W ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Andrew Robertson 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

usubscribe sinister _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Lunch
by Adrian Evans 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Apparently when asked "Tell us why there's no crisp like Walkers" Mr C.F. Jessop from Sheffield replied "Because you always know the quality in the bag". How I laughed when upon opening my bag of ready salted to find not crisps, but minature potato caricatures of Belle and Sebastian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Surprise Surprise
by Sarah Wheeler 16 Jul '98

16 Jul '98

Sorry, this has little to do with Belle and Sebastian..........I read on the Tape Tree List that Gary Pollock was getting involved. This is a long shot, but I went to (Graeme High) school with a Gary Pollock, and wondered if it was the very same????? If it is you, then I haven't forgiven you for making me correctly name the members of Matt Bianco before giving me a tape of some of their stuff (prior to me buying the records, of course!) Sorry to everyone else......... Byeee Sarah x -- "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!" Lewis Carroll -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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