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Sinister: Re:My Bloody Valentine/Guitar Solos
by Ed Mason 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

At 18:32 14/07/98 +0100, you wrote: > >sinister-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 >> someone mentioned the top 10 >> guitar solos, and that sounded like a great idea. >> 1. Stone Roses - I am the resurrection. This rules it's as simple as that >> 2. Television - Marquee Moon. Not Tom Verlaine's bit, but the little >widdly >> bit that Richard Lloyd does after the first chorus >> 3. Neil Young - All along the watchtower. There was this great bit a few >> years ago on the the telly where Neil Young and Pearl Jam do this and the >> boy from Pearl Jam do a solo each, and Neil Young's guitar is about 10 >times >> as loud as the other bloke, and he just plays this one long wobbling note >> and then goes away, totally upstaging the pearl jam lad. >1) Something by J Mascis. Arguably his career is a mere footnote to Mr >Jung, but the solo on their version of "Just Like Heaven" rocks like a >mutha. How about the fabulously insane guitar solo on 'A House IS Not A Motel' by LOVE on that greatest of all LA folk/rock/pop/psychedelic type LPs Forever Changes,(Elektra, 1967), it just cuts out abruptly at its speed-crazed height with out so much as a by-your-leave, proving difficult if you choose to DJ with it (although the opportunities to do this are rare, if not non-existent, these days...) >list...hmmm...maybe I can get away with recommending My Bloody >Valentine.....! if you haven't heard them, do so! The LP Loveless is the >most beautiful noise you'll ever hear! > You certainly can, indeed there should be more such recommendations, how about this for a MBV top-five; 1) Lovelee Sweet Darlene ('New Record By' EP, Kaleidoscope, 1986) 2) Strawberry Wine (12" Single, Lazy, 1987) 3) (Please) Lose Yourself In Me ('Ecstasy' LP, Lazy, 1987) 4) Soft As Snow (But Warm Inside) ('Isn't Anything' LP, Creation, 1988) 5) You Made Me Realise (EP, Creation, 1988) Although of course this is but the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and pretty much any of the above can be substituted for another (except Nos. 1 & 5). (and probably No.2) Also, on a B&S relational note, I have a friend who insists on the similarity between 'Le Pastie..' and 'Strawberry Wine'... Also, has anybody else heard the new offering by David Gedge? 'Kerry Kerry', Cinerama, on Cooking Vinyl, it's rather fine in a shimmering upbeat pop, strings, and harmonies kind-of-a-way, suggesting to my mind that he retains a degree of his pop (or should that be P!O!P!, (?) I'm new to the list) sensibility of yore Cheers Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: And all without a model of a cows arse.
by babyblu＠gold.globalcafe.co.uk 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

Listen, I know that talking about Linda's newts has now been officially frowned upon but surely the solution to your warring Bob'n'Thelma is blatantly obvious. Simply buy another newt called Terry, plop him into the bowl and watch him sort it all out with his cheeky Geordie charm and some hilarious slapstick escapades involving a wardrobe, some French erotica and Bob's boss. (Or more probably just take him off down the pub where at least Thelma can't get at him.) Sage advice I'm sure you'll agree and all without the benefit of seven years at vetenary school with my hand up a model of a cows arse. Mike, your Gregorian top ten chart made me laugh so hard that the normally polite staff of my geeky netcafe had to come and ask me to 'keep it down' so's the other customers could make out the strains of the frankly odious hardcore drill'n'bass that they always seem to play here. Rich's reaction was hilarious too, but he was only joking wasn't he? Just imagine if word got around that we'd scared off a punter by forcing R!A!W!K! guitar solos down his throat and then getting Mark 'Razor Fight' Cassarato to threaten him with his Italian mafia-style retribution. We'd never be able to show our virtual faces in polite twee society again. :^0 Katrina, not only do we want a full review of the album, but we want it, track by track, through the media of interprative dance. I expect full video footage on the Jeepster site by tommorow. So get cracking woman and even try and act all coy and girlie like you always do. Least you forget, we've all seen you playing twister. On a B&S note though, they're still wonderful aren't they? I'm currently going through a little phase of kinda taking them for granted, given that they're such a constant in my life, and then listening to say... 'You made me forget my dreams' at JUST the correct angle and falling in love all over again. I actually had a little tiff with my lovely Linda simply because she reckons that some of the songs from sinister are 'repetitive,' pfff! and 'a bit samey,' eeeeeek!!! How do you respond to this? Am I alone in being madly in love with someone who doesn't think that the sun has to ask permission to rise out of Stuart Murdochs arse? I'm currently trying playing 'Tigermilk' at low volume in our wee bedroom the instant she falls asleep and softly whispering, "life don't get any better than this baby" repeatedly into her shell-like, but it doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas? StayLuckyRoryxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Major Crisis
by Adrian Evans 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

Nick Dastardly & Mutley yelped : >This is rubbish Don't mess around then ! >1. It involves a character who is not a schoolgirl. Schoolgirls are >great but people will start talking if *every* song I listen to >involves them. Clearly I cannot argue with this. >5. It storms in and kicks bugle ass after the gay boy foppery of >"Seeing Other People". Oh no..oh no oh no no oh no non nein never.... This is without doubt the best track on the album and completely unfortunate that it is track two...as Gl**n H*d*le says, you don't want to peak too early....Seeing Other People is the premature ejaculation amongst all album tracks. >Feel free to tell me I've totally missed the point or should restrict myself >to talking about the best newt drum solo ever. I can't disagree with much of what you say apart from your fifth point, However what I was getting at is that "Major" TO ME is totally out of place on IYFS. I am not saying that all B&S songs should sound the same or that the band should adopt one style, on the contrary, I just don't think IYFS was the right place for that track to appear. And your argumes aren't exactly vote-clinchers eh ? Don Mark-o Casarotto wrote : >One big reason why I didn't want to discuss the less then perfect oeuvre >of B&S is because people will immediately leap to the defense of their >faves, which is bad enough when you try to have a conversation about it >on the list it could take months, and cost thousands of lives. >Having said that, Me and the Major is great, especially the "Snow is >falling" bit - and the rest of it, actually. So ner. I see no problem in healthy debate over which songs are great and which songs are shite as long as you don't lose the thread...it is B&S content after all. Obviously we all see ourselves as armchair critics and I except yours and Nicks views as subjective opinion, which we are all entitled to. NOW SOME BASTARD BACK ME UP ON THIS ONE !!! Oh and Miller...STOP THAT PIDGEON. Penelope Pitstop. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Re:My Bloody Valentine/Guitar Solos
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

> Ed Mason wrote: > > Also, has anybody else heard the new offering by David Gedge? 'Kerry > Kerry', Cinerama, on Cooking Vinyl, it's rather fine in a shimmering > upbeat > pop, strings, and harmonies kind-of-a-way, suggesting to my mind that he > retains a degree of his pop (or should that be P!O!P!, (?) I'm new to the > list) sensibility of yore > Oh yes. Peelie played another track off the forthcoming album last night, and lo, it was grrreat. It was called "Hate", I think, and it was knicker-wettingly funny. And very pretty pop (I refuse to do that exclamation marks thing. I believe it is foolish ;P) music. Marvellous stuff. Oh, and they're in session on the Peel show tomorrow night and all, so don't miss it, kids! ByeBye, Liz ************************************** La vie, n'est ce pas un cadeau? ************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Crap songs
by Barrett R 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

Ooops, two posts in one day. Anyway, Penelope wrote: >NOW SOME BASTARD BACK ME UP ON THIS ONE !!! And I am that soldier. My least favourite B&S track is Electronic Renaissance. I don't mind them trying something new, but I just don't think this one works at all. And LLPJ annoys me a bit because even though I think it's a fine tune it's hard to escape the fact that that woman's voice does my head in. I'll set Honey on you if you lot get nasty about this... Ronandinho ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Tree top ten
by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

> Andrew O'Sullivan wrote: > > 1. Oak > 2. Elm > 3. Cherry > 4. Birch No, no no! _Everyone_ knows that number 4 is "The...LARCH." Tchah. Get it right! ;) Does no-one adhere faithfully to the holy scripture of Monty Python these days? ByeBye, Liz ************************************** La vie, n'est ce pas un cadeau? ************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: They're taking it out on us
by Reid Dossinger 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

I was going to do a top ten list of why B&S should come to North Carolina, but I thought I'd just boil it down to a few: * Because Schoolkids AND Record Exchange both stocked the EP's. And they're both selling bootlegged CD-R's of Tigermilk. Just kidding... * Because the famous Cat's Cradle can promise that the sound will be really bad. * Because Carrboro (attached to Chapel Hill and home of said Cat's Cradle) was mentioned in some Oasis book: "Carrboro?! Where the hell is that?! We stayed on the bus." * Because we all know that B&S will play in both D.C. and New York, which means that all the people in Rhode Island and Baltimore will be able to see them with no problem. Aren't there any American listees in far-flung places that we know B&S will NOT be playing anywhere near (Westerners in big cities aren't allowed to answer)? Am I the only Southerner on the list? Hell, even if they play Atlanta (doubtful), I'll still have a long haul... * Because they'll have a damn big crowd. There. That wasn't so hard, was it? Pointlessly, Reid ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: no you have to press record and play at the SAME time, Dad
by Honey 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

Oh yes. Our hero of the hour, well year, is understandably a bit fed up organising Tigermilk/session blind dates between tapers and tapees as he ended up having to do them all himself. So round of applause to the man in the mask, I'll be removing mention of it soon, and we need to decide the best way to deal with this in the future: 1) Let all requests come back to the list again without moaning. Each person who asks will get none, one or 100 replies from willing tapers. It's crude, it works but it's a little tiresome. 2) Someone else volunteer to be coordinator. You may wish your name to be private but I think Jeepster have made their position clear: tape copies of something unreleased until it is are hmm.. tolerated. So the coordinator would make sure s/he had a regular supply of volunteers to do tapings on each side of the Atlantic and maybe elsewhere too and would match people up geographically close-ish. 3) Just a load of willing tapers. But this would have to be permanent volunteers really as I haven't time to be 2) as well as list owner. I'd just stick their email addressed up on a WWW page, their locations and have done with it. Comments to me please (my email address, not the list) in the next week and in the absence of any substantial ones I'll just go for 1). Please bear in mind before you go volunteering that the number of requests may go up come September 7th/8th, and I don't want to go sending out this message all over again in three months time :). Oh, and that I seem to be allergic to stamps as the casualties of the Beat Patrol tape fiasco will tell you (I still feel guilty - jj - it's in the tape deck NOW!). Oh quickly, a reminder: Jeepster are generally quiet about tapes, but they feel they have to act when someone mentions CD copies publically. That's their position, you may disagree but let's not have a rehash of this on the list please. That's it, can I go and play now? - Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Mummy's toybox
by Honey 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

Right, gather round me little bunnies because I want to have a word. No-one, not anyone, on this list should be mailing the list and telling other how to behave on it. That goes for Mark and for Keith who replied to it with a slap and for anyone who's thinking of replying to this. I've been running this list for nearly a year now and by and large I think I've done an OK job, I hope. I'll step in when things get out of hand or I think this list is becoming too hmm minority interest, and I will always, *always* step in if someone bad-mouths someone else. Provocation is no excuse. I don't like it and I won't allow it. If you want a list like that, well gosh, I guess you'll just have to go off and create one yourself. You know, I really don't like having to do things to keep the list sweet, and mostly you are all little angels - I have posters of you all up around my walls you know and I think you're all gorgeous. But once in a while I have to become Mother and it's not my idea of fun - I'm very busy and a little tired and I just want this thing to run invisibly. And mostly it does thanks to you lot. And I can't spend ages trying to decide if something is a swipe at someone else or not - I'll sometimes just decide to shh you. Please don't take it personally. Your job here is not to decide how the list is run and what is to be posted and big mummy things like that, but to be happy little souls and have erm, fun. And to occasionally read the list rules on the WWW site and try and remember that there's 515 people listening to every word you breathe, so think carefully what you post, and make sure you aren't showing off your big new dumper truck or Sindy, but that you just want to part of a community. So you go on and tell us the books you've read that you think are good, and don't worry if you think they're obscure - even better someone volunteer to collect them offline and send a summary back to the list. I don't want *anyone* to feel nervous about posting to this list because they might not be IN or know enough or might get a slagging. And don't go telling someone else off publically for being pompous. People are welcome to mail me privately and tell me what they think of the list and if they like or dislike the way it's going and any positive suggestions to help - and it's nice to be told once in a while that the list is nice, because I don't get paid for this :) I'm busy at the moment so I might have trouble getting back to you but please do send me comments about the list if the spirit moves inside you, but don't complain TO the list! Now - off you go, wipe your tears and go and play in the sand pit. Tea will be in 30 minutes so make sure you wash your hands. Honey with a hankie xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: top 10 reasons why B&S should play Rhode Island
by BCapirigi＠aol.com 15 Jul '98

15 Jul '98

10. i'm not married 9. when oasis played here someone flung a shoe at em 8. if you dont i know a psychotic woman who will kill them (but only cos i like em) 7. we have the nations oldest 4th of july parade 6. if they play here i will pee my pants with joy 5. celine dion wouldnt be caught dead here 4. jackie o and conan o'brien both used to spend their summers here 3. i make arse-kickin' honeydew soup 2. there is one club in all of providence...yeah! 1. i forgot what tryptophan was now those are unbeatable reasons matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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