September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: NYC Final Picnic Plans
by Mphintz＠aol.com 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hello lovelies, Honestly, I do not have much to say in this update than what has been said before. All dates, times and places, etc., are the same as what has been written previously. In any case, here it is again: Date: Sunday, September 20th Time: 2 pm. Place: East River Park, 6th Street and FDR Drive Info Line: (917) 337-4498 (for last minutes changes, rain plans, etc.) I have been anxiously checking the weather forecasts each morning, and it seems that we will have a beautiful day for the picnic. A boombox has been volunteered (thank you Brian), and from the looks of it, we will have plenty of sugary snacks on hand. Don't forget to bring activities, a la soccer balls, Uno, Twister, etc. Perhaps I will meet some of you Saturday evening at the Lucksmiths, et al, show at Shelflife. For more information, go to www.shelflife.com. So, this is it, the final update... Now everyone has to show up for the picnic. The hard planning part is done; we can sit back in the sun and relax now. Cheers :-) Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: signing on this evening
by B. Williamson 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hello all, another new listee here, I've been listening for a while, and chose this moment to pop in. I'm Brian from Seattle, and I've been listening to B&S for a while, since about the time IYFS came out here on The Enclave. I first heard of the band as a member of the Stephen Duffy group - Duffy apparently bought something like 20 copies of Tigermilk and gave them all away to his friends. Since then, I've been noticing similarities between selected B&S and Lilac Time titles. How about these few: Tigermilk Tiger Tea The Rollercoaster Ride The Rollercoaster Song Paper Boat Paper Boat Anyway, love the new album but I'm not sure that I don't like IYFS better. Cheers, Brian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: toronto show, high fidelity, reviews, zines, wow
by vlass＠interlog.com 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

i am jumping around excitedly in a circle with matthew, jessica and elisabeth about the belle and sebastian show! yay! looks like i was lucky too - i managed to snag my toronto tickets for the whopping low price of $17.50. it was at rotate this at queen and bathurst, and i was told they still have a whole bunch left... well, that was at noon -- perhaps by now they're gone. so, are we going to have a picnic before or after? i vote yes yes yes! elisabeth was right about all these exciting toronto shows -- low and ida are next wednesday at the horseshoe -- everyone, go! gee, there has been such an increase in postings these days! i can barely read through all of them before i discover another 30 or so kicking around in my in-box. hello to all the newcomers -- the bathroom is down the stairs, to your right and there are free drinks and cookies in the fridge by the door (am i the only one who likes cold cookies? mmmmm) who has read "high fidelity" by nick hornby? it's so much fun -- read this excerpt! "Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands -- literally thousands -- of songs about broken hearts and rejection and pain and misery and loss. The unhappiest people I know, romantically speaking, are the ones who like pop music the most; and I don't know whether pop music has caused this unhappiness, but I don know that they've been listening to the sad songs longer than they've been living the unhappy lives." does this apply to our "legion of bedroom saddo devotees"? come on, don't be shy to admit it! hmmm, what else -- oh yes, shameless plug.. the newest issue of my zine is out now. it's called -melt the snow- and i have a horribly pathetic q&a with mark from jeepster in it. i asked really stupid questions (i.e boring) so don't order it for that interview, order it for the other stuff! there's writing about.. hmm, lots of things. email me for details, okay? i really like trading too. guess what? i started university, joined the newspaper and my first assignment is to write a review for TWATTYBUS due.. umm.. tomorrow. sigh, i have to get cracking on that -- i just realized that it won't be a very *objective* review since i am hopelessly in love with the album.. anyway, if you're still here, thanks for reading this among the hundreds of other messages! teri xx ps... a big hello to all the #sinisterines i haven't seen lately. i hope you're all doing well, and maybe i'll see you soon :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: well... as a child i feel the need to vent..
by Gizmo451＠aol.com 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

I almost laughed as I read the duke's email concerning us of the younger persuasion's attraction to belle and sebastian... Alas, I've never heard Tigermilk, and I even will go as far as to admit that when I first heard If you're feeling sinister, I was not instantly hooked. However, as I listened, I grew (slowly yet surely, indeed) to love them. I waited just as eagerly as the next fan for the new album.. and just as dutifully bought it the day it appeared in stores. But ... I am a mere 16.. and from my limited experience I have yet to encounter a fellow teen who loves the band as I do.. or even a teenager who has heard of them. Perhaps my social circle is not as broad as would be helpful...but then again I live in Memphis, TN... and so I'm not surprised. A side note ... does anyone know if the show in Athens Georgia will be 18+ only? That would surely sadden me.... as I'm already traipsing out that direction to take a looksie at a few colleges. as I listen to an excellent hellcat records compilation, --Lara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: simple things
by azriel 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

so i've been reading all your reviews/comments/feelings about TBWTABS (except for that week and a half i was off the list), and haven't noticed anyone commenting much on "simple things." i think it's brilliant. short, but brilliant. am i the only person who has the overwhelming urge to get up and dance her legs down to her knees whenever that song is on? maybe i am. oh well. thank you for your time. i'll shut up now. -kerry "i can bring you solace on the bureau in my office." -gene +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Toronto Show
by petula 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Just some info: Got my tickets, they're $19.75 each with service charge if you go in person. As of 11 a.m. this morning, about 250 tickets had sold. Not sure if that's just all list people rushing to get theirs, but it would appear that it's selling fairly quickly. No support act printed on the ticket, but I had a peek as the info came on the pooter screen and it looks like the dreadful Spooky Reuben is opening. Perhaps he will do his famous yodelling song! That would be a treat. Anyone looking to stay in a hotel, I'd suggest the Executive Motor Hotel at 621 King St. W (at Bathurst), 416 504-7441. It's a short cab ride away and the cheapest I've seen (except for hostels of course). At roughly $75 (double occupancy) a night, it's a lot better than the $139 or so you tend to pay at places like Days Inn, etc., especially since parking is free. And you also get free coffee & donuts in the morning! The Legendary Jim Ruiz Group stayed there once and they were quite happy, so there's a vote of confidence for you. counting the days, elisabeth xx p.s. if anyone's interested, Fantastic Plastic Machine are playing a free show at Lava on Thursday, October 8th. You'd have to be mad to pass up this wonderful Japanese band. I think they kick Pizzicato Five in the butt, and I like P5, so that's saying a lot. p.p.s. Also, Air are playing at Lee's on Tues. October 20 for $12.50. What's with this flux of cool shows? A dry spell of months on end, and now this. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Jim Schmidt 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

someone wrote: according to my calculations, the "girl" referred to in hicktractor must reside somewhere in either the pacific isles or alaska, in order to be 5 hours behind the east cost. i write: or she's in new york and five hours behind the u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #357
by Benjamin M. Poremski 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Lorraine put it mildly: > anastasia's right! some friends of ours went to see b&s twice last year > > - -once at angel oresanz, a remodeled CATHEDRAL Prior to the events of one summer eve in the 15th century it was in fact a synagogue down there on Norfolk Street in LOISADA, but the wicked Spanish King turned out the inhabitants and forked the deed over to the papacy, who decided on a luscious new look: everything was covered over with damask and white canvas and a bowling alley and a cool bath house went into the basement. A cathedral of degeneracy it was. Then a brash sculptor bought the place and wrecked it, and let crap indie bands treat it like a VFW Hall. > - -once at studio 54 (for a pbs special.) Ooh, I was at this one. What a sparkling night, Cristal and Cocaine, Henry Kissinger dancing with George Chinaglia, Bianca dancing with Gordon Bradley, Arne Carlson dancing with Shep Messing's Peruvian Honey Bear, Mingo. Blaze Starr was there. Andy was there. Supporting acts were the Trammp's and Vickie Sue Robinson, and wee Chris Geddes lay on a red leatherette settee with his head in Jackie Earl Haley's lap. A night not to be missed, or so we thought until Bela Sebastian took the stage in its Halston, wrecked on reds and whatnot. Abe Beame said in his autobiography that the police presence required to evacuate the surrounding area is what sent Gotham on the path to bankruptcy. > new york city rocks da house! Fuck yeah! Say, can anyone tape me a copy of the Don Cartagena LP 'Pussy Leche' that the kids at Hostos Community College released as a class project in 1994? Yours truly, Benjamin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The matted hair in the Sinister drain pipe
by Reid 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

Oh, you wacky Sinister kids, writing until your sensitive little fingers are splitting open. God bless you for staying on relevant and interesting subjects and not meandering off into "I got in a fight with my girlfriend. I should ask 700 strangers what I should do. They'll all be perfectly interested." Hooray for, um, us! Okay, you. So much to comment on...I've been a good little Sinister boy and have piled all of my insignificant comments into one convenient-to-delete post. > i think that we should all share how many copies we've made of B*S > albums, ep's, singles -- how many people we've infected with this > pleasant virus. i've got twelve, i think. 90-minute masterpieces of > IYFS and all the summer 97 EP's. and all my converts are growing in > their dedication. > I really shouldn't even bother responding to the "Indie vs. Huge record stores" topic, since Mr. Kitchen (sung to the tune of "Sister Christian") said what should be considered the final word. But I really don't think that it has anything to do with Indie stores being...better. It has to do with the quality of record store experience. I won't rehash the good points of David's letter (being that indie stores take chances with their stock that major stores never will, and that they'll promote local bands), but I'll add this: I don't know how things are in the UK, but here in the US, it's getting to be that every town is exactly the same. Same restaurants, same stores, same everything. Sure, when you go into a bigger record stores, you can get cheaper prices and bigger (major label) selection, but when you're sitting in a Best Buy, you could be anywhere in the country. Indie stores are unique, and that, among all the other points, is a good enough reason to give them my money. And trust me, I listen to enough major label and pop music that I've been laughed at more than a few times at every indie store in North Carolina. But I'd rather get laughed at my some indie store record clerk than get gawked at by some teenager in a Blockbuster shirt as I spell out B-E-L-L-E and S-E-B-A-S-T-I-A-N right before I try to explain where "Scotland" is. At an indie store, you'd probably get, "Oh, great album." Or maybe they'd laugh at you for listening to such sissy crap. But either way, at least they'd know what it was. > I've heard fans complaining when other people 'steal' 'their' bands- but it is > usually the old fans who complain, not the new ones. I'll risk being the voice > of reason by saying that most of us on the list would like to see B+S > successful, solvent, and remembered in 20 years time by more than just a bunch > of saddo record obsessives. > I try to convert everyone I know too. For the record, most of the bands that I truly love are all major label bands (or are at least well known), so I'm not saying that I hate huge bands. But what it comes down to is *who* else is listening to your favorite bands. I would love to see Belle and Sebastian debuting at #1 rather than Korn or Snoop Dog nee Doggy, BUT what that means is that you have to listen to people say things like, "Belle and Sebastian are my favorite band! I have their album, "Arab Strap" something." And you get more hecklers and talkers at the shows and let's not forget that you also get more people who will gladly go on for hours about how much they HATE Belle and Sebastian. And all I'm asking, and I think all anyone else arguing this point is asking, is this what you really want? Don't not try and "convert" people, but just realize that there are definite downsides to a favorite band of yours getting big. > I don't think there's really any need to worry about Belle and > Sebastian getting too famous, their music isn't really garish or > danceable or radio-ready enough to make any kind of real mainstream > impact, I don't think > Yeah, after I busted my ass with that poorly written excuse for a point, I completely agree with this above remark. I think they're already at the point where they will be remembered for a long time, but I don't really see them getting huge. Although I do think they'll get bigger than any of us think they will. > Does anyone know if the Matador vinyl is out yet? I haven't seen it at any > shops so I was wondering if there was a delay. > Yes, it's out. I was a total fucking Belle and Sebastian nerd and bought one yesterday. At the indiest of the indie shops no less (although the guy who sold it to me thought that the spoken word on Spaceboy Dream was done by the guy from Arab Strap). I walked around downtown with it under my arm thinking, "Yeah, that's right! Belle and Sebastian! On vinyl! Who's cool now?!", fully realizing how much of a geek that made me. It's quitting time. ~Reid -- "I told myself I'd head to someplace exotic, Portland maybe or Tacoma, Washington, but deep down I knew that once my bags were packed, I'd return to North Carolina." -David Sedaris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: hold on
by donovan＠matador.recs.com 17 Sep '98

17 Sep '98

I think you all misconstued my point. I was simply trying to say that there are bound to be other good shows besides the NYC one, so all the people travelling shouldn't limit themselves in terms of where they go to see a gig. NYC, as much as we might like to think so, is not the center of the universe. As for Ken: Tickets for Boston can be procurred through Ticketmaster 617-864-EAST X 221 (credit cards) and at all Strawberries locations or at the box office at the Middle East, which is at 472 Mass Ave in Cambridge. For Joshua: The new album should be available at most good independent record shops, or most chains (Tower, Virgin, HMV, Best Buy, etc). Or via mailorder from us (Matador) or Amazon.com or CDNOW or the like. Good luck with the Tigermilk thing though. Absolute 100% final tour dates: 10/21 Boston Morse Auditorium In the Photo Resourse Center/BU Campus 10/23 Philly Trocadero 10/24 Toronto Opera House 10/26 Chicago Metro 10/28 Athens, GA 40 Watt 10/30 Washington DC Black Cat 11/1 NYC Supper Club (SOLD OUT) 11/2 NYC Supper Club -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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