January 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: So, what do you do that's obscene?
by MWaggner＠aol.com 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

In a message dated 99-01-25 08:22:55 EST, you write: > > Someone mentioned the Isobelle album, and someone else mentioned Looper. > One of these albums I can't wait to get, and the other I intend to avoid > like the plague (although I'll probably buy it out of morbid curiosity). > I don't know which one you intend to avoid, but if it's the Looper, change your mind right this minute! I was lucky enough to get a tape of it, and it is truly amazing. I've been playing it repeatedly and noticing something new each time -- definitely not Pish at all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Old B&S news (eh?)
by Honey 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Just in case anyone didn't get the B&S news last week from those cuddly Jeepsters... well at least it's on-topic even if it's old. More exciting titbits to follow. honey xxx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Belle & Sebastian are currently recording their fourth studio/church > album for release in late summer. The band are also planning a three > track single to be released before the album. > > The much sought after debut album Tigermilk is also scheduled for a > release in May. It will be re-mastered and available for the first time > on CD as well as vinyl. The decision to re-release the album was > prompted by the poor quality bootlegs that have been flying around the > world. > > In between recording the next studio album, Belle & Sebastian band > members Stuart David and Isobel Campbell have both recorded solo albums > for release in March and April respectively. > > Stuart David's spoken word electronica combo Looper, features his wife > Wee Karn and brother Ronnie Black. A joint project with Sub Pop in the > U.S., the 10 track debut album Up A Tree on CD and LP is to be released > on March 8th. A single Ballad of Ray Suzuki will precede the album on > 22nd February and features remixes by Bananahand (Salako) and Twin Tub > (Chris Geddes from B&S and Glasgow graphic designer/DJ Andrew Symington) > on CD and limited edition 10". Looper will also play some live shows > in four independent record shops to coincide with the release of the > album. The dates are Tuesday 9th March - Rough Trade Talbot Road, > London; Wednesday 10th March - Piccadilly Records, Manchester; Thursday > 11th March - Missing Records Wellington Street, Glasgow; Friday 12th > March - Avalanche Coburn Street, Edinburgh. > > Isobel Campbell's project The Gentle Waves is a sixties influenced > pop/folk album with Isobel as chanteuse and playing most of the > instruments herself. There are also contributions from friends and > various members of Belle & Sebastian. The first limited edition (1000 > copies) 7" single Weathershow will be released on 22nd March with the > debut album The Green Fields of Foreverland intended for release a > fortnight later on CD and LP. > > for more information please head to the Jeepster web-site at > http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Could I have this dance, and can I get in your pants?
by Kevan Cooke 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Hello all you gorgeous people, My, aren't there a lot of you, over 900 in fact. Just think, if every single one of us sent in a review of each of our top ten favourite records then that would make 9,110 record reviews for everyone to read through. My, wouldn't that be fun! And if every one of us read each of those 9,110 record reviews and it took thirty seconds to read each one then that would be a total of over 69,160 hours spent reading each others record reviews. Gosh! That's nearly eight years! I'm sure someone will have said this already, but oh my, weren't the Hefner blokes rather good on friday night. Just as well because I only really went to listen to lots of young girls discussing their underwear, and I'm afraid there was a very disappointing lack of panties talk. Now, I must insist that everyone in the UK watches "League of Gentleman" this week. It's a rather bizarre comedy programme on BBC2, and this week my good friend Michael Chick is an extra. He's only five years old and I'm sure he'd be thrilled to know that you all went out of your way to try and spot him. Here is a conversation that I once had with Michael, I'm not really his uncle, but I won't go into that. "Uncle Kevan, why do you have long nails?" "Because I play the guitar" "Why do you play the guitar, are you going to go on Stars in their Eyes?" My favourite folk/pop related shape is pentangle. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Halfner
by Caleb Rudd 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Hello peeps Hefner's (or as Darren joked, Halfner - as it was Darren [Hefner's singer/guitarist] with occassional member Jack [lap steel guitarist]) show at the Poetry Cafe on Friday was a huge success, with the Cafe once more filled to the rafters with gleeful punters. It was great seeing Hefner a bit more stripped back, allowing Darrens lyrics to really be absorbed and appreciated (which made me tingle all over). I must add that Darren seems a top bloke, very engaging and friendly, only too happy to chat about Hefner or obscure indie records. On the weekend I went to Manchester and stayed with Mr and Mrs Warrander and Shelley who came down from Birmingham. Sadly Mr Warrander told me he has left Sinister, and vows never to return. His wit will be sorely missed. We met up with Tag on Saturday for lunch and stocked Picadilly and King Bee Records with ample quantities of Papercuts (rush to the shops and get it now kids!). On Sunday we saw 54, about the notorious Studio 54 club in Manhatten, which is a pretty good late seventies/drugs/disco tale, even if it did mirror Boogie Nights a bit too close for comfort. Apparantly the studio (Disney's Mirramax) enforced much editing and re-shooting against the director's wishes. The director originally wanted it to be much darker with showing the lead character Shane (who is rather bland) in a more hedonistic, bisexual light. I can't compare it to The Last Days of Disco, not having seen that film, but most people seem to favour Whit Stillmans treatment. We saw the movie at the 20 screen UCI in the new Trafford centre complex. What a marvel of modern architecture the Trafford centre is with different themed sections (New Orleans, Roman, etc). Of course the shops are just the same shite shops as anywhere else, although the ever popular MUJI is much appreciated. erm, yeah that was my weekend. Now I gotto go and buy some new shoes for a job interview tommorow. ciao ciao Caleb /-(U)-----------------------------------------------------------(K)-\ | Chester Indie Zine http://www.chester.org.au | | UKindiePOPdance editor(a)chester.org.au | | New stuff: Jack, Lucksmiths, Underground Lovers interviews! | \-(2)-----------------------------------------------------------(K)-/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Jeepster News List
by Katrina House 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Hello people, just to remind everyone that sinister is NOT subscribed to the Jeepster news list and is you want to receive official + confirmed information on B&S activity, their side projects and the other Jeepster bands, then you must go to the Jeepster website at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/mailing.htm and subscribe ... ... otherwise you'll miss out! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r@jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: So, what do you do that's obscene?
by Michael 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Wow. I'd never heard any Hefner before Friday night, and everyone I'd asked said 'hmmm, s'alright, nothing special'. Bollocks, is what I can now say to that. And as if the singing and lyrics weren't cool enough on their own, that slide guitar just made the whole evening sublime. Rock on, the Poetry Cafe. Oh, and I bought the album on Saturday, which is also pretty damn good, and kinda makes B+S sound pretentious and over-produced. I also got to meet some of the cool set in London - once again I am pissed off stuck in the middle of nowhere that is Reading. Errica - I assume that was you drinking the coca-cola. What a well brought up and well behaved girl you must be. I know if that had been me and a friend at sixteen we would probably have been trying to drink beer and smoke like the big kids, and would have ended up looking like a couple of pissed-up and green faced idiots. Someone mentioned the Isobelle album, and someone else mentioned Looper. One of these albums I can't wait to get, and the other I intend to avoid like the plague (although I'll probably buy it out of morbid curiosity). Michael, just Michael PS Nicky The Librarian - you were right, I Know Where the Summer Goes is a great song. PPS Lady P - Boston or The Money - have you decided yet? (if you took the money maybe you get a lighter of your own ;-) ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: two-step bus
by Mphintz＠aol.com 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

Lesley Jo wrote: <<Look at ME, i'm special>> Yes, you are. Some people spend all their lives trying to be special; you were just born that way. I hear in some cultures that specialness is honored, but in others you would be thrown in a volcano. Thank goodness our lives are much more civilized. ;-) Tag, I didn't know that that was you in boy-group Roolz. I mailordered from the Czech Republic by carrier pigeon pt 3 of the 4 part debut single. The cover has Tag looking, as he said, "wind-swept". Keith just looks wet. The bside includes a limited remix of "That Means I Am Happy to See You" by DJ Trousers and the Naked Man Painting Posse. My mother quite likes the band too. I saw a some girls on a bus ogling an underwear catalog. Surely they were trying for a Sinister list thread moment. But Stu M wasn't driving--it was a man mumbling threats to students under his breath. Perhaps if the girls had given the catalog to the driver, he would have been more pleasant. I have yet to be hit by a bus, but I take my life in my hands every time I cross the street. My roommate told me I resemble Leanord Cohen when I wear my peacoat. Should I worry? Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: top 12/am i stoic?
by Jygsaw18＠aol.com 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

In a message dated 1/24/99 5:23:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, dec@m- gurk.freeserve.co.uk writes: << Check out 'The Snake' or 'Rum Sodomy and the Lash'. They're cool. Dec >> arrr! Shane MacGowan is awesome! I bought Rum Sodomy and the Lash because the cover slash title made me laugh.. then I listened to the album and it was amazing. so I snapped up all the Pogues stuff I could find here. They are so good! check out <A HREF="http://users.terabit.net/todea/">a rusty tin can and an old hurley ball</A> or <A HREF="http://www.uic.edu/~skovar1/chapter1.html">Chapter 1 The Lost Decade By Ann Scanlon</A> for info on the Pogues... very good stuff dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Hey but was in vaguely in the I I and it? the into go c'mon and see.
by simon barr 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

> Hey, lay off Nicky... I think that "Five Leaves Left" is >probably not the best thing to start with, but then again, just close >your eyes and listen to "Time Has Told Me". Mmmmmmmmm..... > And of course, Ms lesleyjo was heard to say: >> simon says:>>n't the re-release of "Tigermilk" a pain in the arse >> ?? My copy's gonna plummet in value now. Maybe I should sell >> while I can.......nah, never. >> Umm.....anyone else think that remark is...well....vaguely >> EVIL??? tsk tsk, you money grubbers!! would you sell it >> anyway? didnt' think so. enjoy it. dont' wrap it in plastic and >> leave it in an airtight safe, all lonely until you'r 70 years old and >> decide to use the money to buy a shiny new walker. you feebs! > > Damn, beat me to it...! As far as I'm concerned, I want >everyone, yes EVERYONE to hear Tigermilk and not just a 4th >hand warped tape of it, damnit. Though I quite like my little tape to >tell the truth, I'll be out there on the day to buy it and then I'll be >playing it to my uninterested friends until they do the same. Are >you all up for it? Yeah? Yeah! Let's take over the world! > Oh, what else, oh yeah, talking of taking over the world, >what's the sinister consensus on the Gay Dad phenomenon? For >non-British listees, we've a habit of propelling a previously unknown >band into superstardom every year or so, and these are the lucky >winners this time. I have to say I did go out and get the single, if >only on tape, but I do think it's not half bad. Agree? Disagree? >C'mon, let's have a heated debate! > Oh, I've got to go - 4500 words worth of essays to write >before wednesday and this place closes at 4.30 at weekends. But >then I've got 2 1/2 weeks of break to enjoy and I'll see you then. > > bye, > james xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I'd never ever sell Tigermilk. And, Gay Dad's promo B-side "Dim Star" is better than TEWL I reckon. Are they going to handle the pressure everyone's putting on them? Wasn't it supposed to be Embrace last year? Simon. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Tigermilk ... oooh, what else?
by simon barr 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

>From owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net Sun Jan 24 13:35:19 1999 >Received: from [129.215.72.168] by hotmail.com (1.1) with SMTP id MHotMailB874DCFB178E9D101707881D748A890BB1; Sun Jan 24 13:35:19 1999 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA10457; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:32:54 GMT >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:32:38 +0000 >Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA10422 for sinister-outgoing; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:32:34 GMT >Received: from mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (mushroom47.totalweb.net.uk [195.206.160.47]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA10392 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:32:22 GMT >Message-ID: <36AB901B.25E83E99(a)jeepster.co.uk> >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:26:51 +0000 >From: Katrina House <a-and-r(a)jeepster.co.uk> >Organization: jeepster [http://www.jeepster.co.uk/] >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: sinister <sinister(a)majordomo.net> >Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk ... oooh, what else? >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Reply-To: Katrina House <a-and-r(a)jeepster.co.uk> >X-List: Sinister > > >Dear people, > >well, i never thought i'd experience the day when someone says "oh >bollocks, why ARE they re-releasing tigermilk ... what a drag" ... > >... you've made me angry and i need to explain ... > >tigermilk was never released with the intention to become a rare or >valuable record. the stow college music project which released the >record did so as part of a music course designed to give people >experience and an insight into the workings of the music industry. > >run by alan rankine (from the associates) the project releases a limited >single yearly to help promote local talent whilst providing hands-on >experience to the students of how to go about releasing a record. > >the record is limited to 1000 copies, as this helps it to stay within a >college budget, and helps ensures that the cost of production can be met >and recouped. > >in the case of belle and sebastian, the college were willing to release >an album in light of the amount of material that the band had and the >band's willingness to part fund the cost of recording, but still the >record was limited to help ensure that the release didn't over-stretch >itself and had a chance of selling and, in doing so, making back the >money that was outlaid on it's production. > >as a result the record was released and it took nearly 8 months to sell >the thousand that were produced (actually 200 or so probably went on >promotion of the album and to the band and people that worked on it, so >probably only 800 were sold over the 8 months). > >now, the band have always said that it would be re-released when the >time was right. thankfully that time has come, and the record now stands >a chance of finally making the band a few pence. and in spite of this >and the thousands of e-mails, letters and phonecalls that we've received >over the past two/three years begging for it's re-release, that someone >would be so selfish and greedy as to suggest that it's re-release >threatens their potential to sell an original vinyl copy for a huge >amount!!! well, it's unbelievable! > >isn't it best for it to be out there, able to be listened to, for people >to be able to hear it. it's beautiful, why should it only reside in the >hands of the precious few? why shouldn't EVERYONE have the right to own >a copy and to fall in love with it? isn't the point of belle and >sebastian (and also this list!) that it should be a shared feeling of >love and identity, a link between people, strangers throughout the >world? doesn't everyone/anyone have the right to join in that feeling? > >what i'm saying, is that tigermilk is much more than just a collectors >item, it was created by a band that are more than just 'a band'. and to >devalue that with greed and selfishness is not only directly clashing >with all of the b&s philosophies, but it's also very offensive to the >people that love the band and their music. > >the music was written to be heard, and now it is time again for it to be >heard. if you're not happy with that, well, i'm sorry, but you're >talking to the wrong people and may possibly, in being here, be keeping >the wrong company. > >thanks for listening! ;) > >cheers, >Katrina & David > >-- I somehow got the impression that this post was directed towards me. I said I'd never sell my copy anyway, whatever it was worth - it means too much to me. I'll definately be buying the cd when it comes out, my record has been played to the death. If more people are going to have the album available to them then that's fantastic and if they get half as much pleasure out of it as I have, they'll be extremely satisfied. Personally, it doesn't really bother me. I've had my daily intake for almost three years now and as long as I get my 'fix' (on vinyl or cd) then I'll be content. Simon. >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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