January 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: trying to live like Pippi Longstocking
by rebelstrange＠ldd.net 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

Keith said.......Hmm, seems like a difference of opinion here Geoffrey, I thought they were both hilarious. Well funny, indeed the first Sensitive Stan thing was one of the funniest things I've read on the list in a while. Full marks for taking the piss - whoever it is. ...................I'd have to agree with the keithmonster, as well as that other person who said Stan was funny? anyway, You have no idea how much that post brightened my life. And sadly, the reason is probably that i relate personally to Stan and his kin. when i was a wee lass, I still held out hope that i could find me a boyfriend THAT sensitive and shy. i've since mostly given up, but i still love sensitive boys. if you all knew how much like Stan I was, you'd probably never talk to me again. ironically, the "special friend" who allows stan to post here, probably is makiing derisive fun of those types, but regardless, it still brought an incredible amount of joy to my day, so thank you. as long as it's not run into the ground. comedy is a most subtle medium. Unless you're a fan of Gallagher. m.elise says......his sensitive gestures and constantly calm face...he nodded at me once and i fell back against a wall terribly smitten and out of breath...i wish i could wake up to him every morning and read him oscar wilde poetry and fairy tales every night... .........Yes, did anyone ever read the wilde fairy tale, the nightingale and the rose? it's fairly devastating. it was in a book of animal stories i had when i was a kid, which was actually strangely disturbing, there were some bizarre ones in there. i remember reading that one whilst my dad was playing the Elvis Costello album "Almost Blue(??)" because my favorite song was "a good year for the roses". I was a wee lass then. The student in the story would have made a good b&s fan, cept he lived in the 18th century or something. read it. You'll weep in your earl grey tea. Sebastian himself could have written it. oh, i didn't know there was going to be a listee t-shirt. I must stick my nose in and see what is going on round there. I was thinking abotu making a t-shirt out of my ripoff of the cartoon design. instead of belle and sebastian, it has chauncey and gertrude, my beloved children. Very adorable. Very close to copyright infringement. =) Overheard conversations from a bizarre little man: the movie "she's all that" comes out to day. gotta see if i can find someone that will see that. oh and kellie mentioned when we were gonna see .........Umm.. did anyone get the idea reading this post that we weren't supposed to read this? please, dear God, tell me that someone does NOT want to see that Damned piece of filth film!!! I know *one(* little bunny who should be feeling very ashamed right now......for you american listees maybe you know what i am rattling about. this is what we tried to get away from in the blasted '80's, it's going to put weird art girls back at least 50 years and turn away all the progress we've made at getting an inkling of integrity and respect. ibet the girl in the movie starts out liking b/s, and then the popular jock asshole dresses her up like a teen whore, and she begins dancing to Bon Jovi. I wrote a play to that effect when i was younger, the girl had a lobotomy, and she didn't want to listen to MOrrissey anymore. Quite tragic. Abba *do* rule. hooray for earnest pop. thank you erica for the nice snip of poem, it's either keats or yeats, i never can tell those two apart but i like that one. i heard a good song by My life Story once. Louise, I enjoyed your story. and weejay sent me, so i'll be knocking soon. WHO was that who said "Bridget Jones-ism"?? you mean THE bridget jones?? i'm tingly wondering. I was just this othe rday thinking of buying a cesaria Evora record. she looks so adorable on the cover of them, like the mom you wished you had. yes lovely. I wonder who has me on their death filter. Cynthia, if you know where i can find one of those bookstraps, i'd be happy to live out your fantasy, so long as fluffy is willing to take upas well. I'll bring my badtz-maru pencil case. it's metal. so nice. lesleyjo http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "I'm a piece of crap that the world revolves around." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tami and Stan, a cautionary tale
by Charlotte Leaud 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

Hello List I^Òm a new subscriber, but not new to your funny little ways. I^Òve been going through the archives out of curiosity. Anyway, I finally went out and got myself a computer for home and now I can join in the fun. I^Òm Charlotte, I live in London, and I^Òve been a Belle and Sebastian fan for a while now. I wish this didn^Òt sound like ^Ómy name^Òs Charlotte and I^Òm an alcoholic^Ô. Petula wrote: >I'm all for Tami and Stan. Perhaps some people are offended by them because >they hit a little too close to home? Goodness knows I used to be a bit like >our Tami, thinking a boy in an Another Sunny Day shirt would be the ultimate >boyfriend. But "popboys" are usually not what they seem...they're either >(from my experience): > >a) selfish mama's boys whose idea of a date is record shopping > >b) so into the "scene" that they ignore you at shows to talk to so-and-so >from some fanzine or band, leaving you to sell their crappy fanzine at your >table while you mind the coats and rucksacks > >c) they can only kiss with the lights out and "mood" music, i.e. Field Mice This made me laugh and wince in painful recognition. I met a few ^Ósensitive stans^Ô when I was younger, and when all the other boys are football lads, you think the one in the geeky glasses with the duffle bag is the answer to your prayers. He likes the same music as you, he^Òll follow you round like a devoted puppy, and make you tapes with immaculate covers, listing all the dates and the record labels that the records came out on. But after a while when you decide to make him a tape or you find a record that you like that wasn^Òt made by four identikit boys with guitars and an (optional) girl singer with a bob, and it didn^Òt come out in a polythene sleeve, he won^Òt want to know, cos he^Òs convinced that he^Òs right, because he^Òs the boy. He^Òll laugh at you if you admit to the merest liking for something in the charts, or patronisingly correct you if you get the title of the third Felt LP wrong. And when you go out to some indie show and you meet your friends, he^Òll sulk and say you^Òre flirting. Or he^Òll run off cos he^Òs seen his friend who^Òs got a record on some old indie label that he hasn^Òt got and he^Òll ignore you all night. That is if he goes out at all, normally he^Òs at home putting his records in alphabetical order. If you^Òre good, he might even let you do a half page in his fanzine, but woe betide you if you write better than him. Slowly you see what an uptight little boy he is, he^Òs only sensitive about himself, he takes himself far too seriously, can^Òt laugh when someone teases him even nicely about his taste, because he thinks he^Òs better, and you^Òre his pupil and his trophy girlfriend. You^Òll row, and he always has to have the last word, sometimes quite nastily and he won^Òt understand why you^Òre upset. But then you finish with him, and you realise you didn^Òt need him at all. He won^Òt learn, of course, but you will. That^Òs all, I^Òll try to be more light hearted in my next post. Love Charlotte xxx ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Happiness
by Carrick C Blair 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

(Was titled Happiness Stan, but I think there has been a block on Stans for awhile. Or a thousand apologies if your getting this twice.) Hi I better get this all out before the spirit leaves me yet again and I let another week slip by without sending out any words of any sort. There's been a few things that I've meant to respond to so, here it goes... Let me see, to start.... St. Etienne The best thing about the show in NYC was the lack of beats and the back up singers. JAMRS (hey that's almost JAMMS, wasn't that a group of some sort?) Wonderful, beautiful, and only a month and a half old. Almost two months. Best moments so far have been waking up after a short evening nap to hear its beautiful melody wafting through the air and hearing it on repeat as we drove through the Pennsylvania countryside cautiously drinking our Newcastles. (and yes we were merely passengers on this particular journey, and we weren't going very far actually, just down to the pub, I guess I should say bar, but it did feel somewhat like a pub; ale, darts, a fire, etc.) The Pastels Might as well start at the beginning, or almost the beginning and get Suck On. Its still available in all its two versions of Baby Honey glory. Tshirts The boy/girl cartoon one is the only one that works. Why do you think those were the ones stolen in Manchester? They were looking to score with the sensitive boy/girl set. The Stans Sorry Tag, your wrong just like you were wrong about Daft Punk. And Keith, your wrong just like you were wrong about.... erm, I can't think of a time when you have ever been wrong. That's kind of frightening. No, not very funny, not very funny at all. 'Sensitive' was kinda cute in vague sort of way. And it would have been a little funnier about five-ten years ago, but certainly we've gotten past this whole sensitive, not sensitive, anorak, not anorak and actually I'm really HARD so SCREW you! attitude. But buy the end, especially how it ended with all sorts of cheap shot meanness directed at one Mr. McMick (someone who I haven't heard say a mean word about anyone, except maybe Lord Anthony, and that was just a average word) and his lovely pal Megan, it all sort went sour. Worst of all, these kind of posts remind me of the Indie-Pop list, the later years. Very sad. Actually the only part that was actually truly laugh out loud funny, was a reply by one of the Jessica's, though it might not have been a Jessica. The one about boys who think going out on a date means going record shopping, etc. That was funny, true to life, clever way to poke fun at the whole sensitive boy issue. Its something that will stick in my head, and didn't take cheap shots at other peoples expense. The other stuff was just lazy humor. And just how we will not tolerate lazy comparisons to Nick Drake, or lazy POP music in general, we should not tolerate lazy humor. End of lecture. Sorry about that, I usually don't get involved in these sorts of squabbles, and I went a bit over the top there at the end. Honey, feel free to write me to say I'm out of line. You see, I'm feeling somewhat fired up, having just received a book by the Duke. That's fired up in a good, positive way. bye sorry about the length, blah blah blah. Carrick ps Soon to follow, hopefully. A story about B&S, a 16 year old girl, and THE WHO. pps and, by the way, what every happened to Jon G and his sister? They disappeared around the time of the UK gigs the best I can remember. ______ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Traveling Matt
by Ben Chess 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

Wow! Over Thanksgiving break I had been in Florida with not much else to do, so we went to a museum with a Jim Henson exhibit. They had a lot of cool Henson stuff, including actual (!) doozers and doozer towers. The detail on those things were amazing. Each one had a little tiny calculator by Sharp or something on their tool belt. But by far, my favorite part of Fraggle Rock was Traveling Matt... ya know, Gobo's uncle who traveled all over earth reporting on us "strange creatures." I wish I had a Traveling Matt that sent me postcards wherever he went... A splendid first post if I do say so myself, ben +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sorry about the fraggles
by Bellequasi＠aol.com 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

i'm quite suprised that some of you have gotten made about this. all i wrote was that isobel and mokie the fraggle have extremely similar singing voices. sorry if my comment started quite a lovely ball rolling . i thought it was time to hear something other than "i am soo ultra hip blah blah blah" kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: fraggle rock!
by Matthew Andrew 30 Jan '99

30 Jan '99

one time they tried to stop eating the dozer's buildings, but the dozers quickly became over-crowded and asked the fraggles to start eating them again. i think the oger-thing was a trash heap, and that's what they called it ---------- > From: Ginger Nance <gnance(a)email.unc.edu> > To: sinister(a)majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: fraggle rock! > Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:40 AM > > > That was one of my favorite shows when I was younger! I always felt bad > for the little guys who built the crystal things--those inconsiderate > Fraggles. Does everyone remember the mean human/ogre-ish people who lived > above ground? My roommate my freshman year's mother looked just like the > wife. I was afraid to tell her b/c I didn't want to offend her, but > fortunately we had a good sense of humor about it and would always sing > "down in fraggle rock" when her parents visited. Okay. I'm done rambling > now! > > Ginger :) > > Ginger Nance > gnance(a)email.unc.edu > http://www.unc.edu/~gnance > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: Fraggle Rock, Doozers, Isobel and Gorgs
by Arthur Chan 29 Jan '99

29 Jan '99

That's really scary...but fascinating. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dollie Banner [SMTP:dollie@pkbaseline.com] > Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:31 PM > To: sinister(a)majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: Fraggle Rock, Doozers, Isobel and Gorgs > > > Hello, > This is my first post and of course it has to do with Fraggle Rock, > so > bring on the hate, I'm achin' for it. > Anyway I'm a bit of a Fraggle afficianado. The main five were Gobo, > Boober, Red, Wembly and Mokey, whose voice does resemble Isobel's, > especially if Mokey had a bad case of Asthma. (Mokey is now the voice > of > Allegra on Allegra's Window) > Fraggles never ate doozers, only the buildings they made, which were > in > fact fashioned out of radish dust, the very vegetable that the > fraggles > fetched from the Gorgs' garden. Sprocket never talked, nor did he try > to eat > Gobo while Gobo was retrieving his postcards. In fact they became > friends > and Doc, the human, learned about the fraggles just before he and > Sprocket > relocated to Miami. > As for toys they did in fact put out a line of dolls, all the > fraggles and > wind-up doozers, which come up pretty regularly on E-Bay (ebay.com) > both > the Hasbro Amrican versions and the UK Pedigree one's. I myself have a > lovely Canadian Boober who resembles Jay Ferguson of Sloan in "The > Good in > Everyone" video and sleeps beside my nightly. > > Hope that clears up any Fraggle confusion. > > aw yeah, dollie > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fraggle Rock, Doozers, Isobel and Gorgs
by Dollie Banner 29 Jan '99

29 Jan '99

Hello, This is my first post and of course it has to do with Fraggle Rock, so bring on the hate, I'm achin' for it. Anyway I'm a bit of a Fraggle afficianado. The main five were Gobo, Boober, Red, Wembly and Mokey, whose voice does resemble Isobel's, especially if Mokey had a bad case of Asthma. (Mokey is now the voice of Allegra on Allegra's Window) Fraggles never ate doozers, only the buildings they made, which were in fact fashioned out of radish dust, the very vegetable that the fraggles fetched from the Gorgs' garden. Sprocket never talked, nor did he try to eat Gobo while Gobo was retrieving his postcards. In fact they became friends and Doc, the human, learned about the fraggles just before he and Sprocket relocated to Miami. As for toys they did in fact put out a line of dolls, all the fraggles and wind-up doozers, which come up pretty regularly on E-Bay (ebay.com) both the Hasbro Amrican versions and the UK Pedigree one's. I myself have a lovely Canadian Boober who resembles Jay Ferguson of Sloan in "The Good in Everyone" video and sleeps beside my nightly. Hope that clears up any Fraggle confusion. aw yeah, dollie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: There was only one Fraggle who had balls enough to go get the mail.
by dani donohue 29 Jan '99

29 Jan '99

Hello, In order to help Seamus out, I'll tell you what I recollect about the Fraggles. The dog didn't talk, but he kept trying to eat Wembly when he got the mail. I always wondered how those doozer towers would taste. My friend said like mustard, but I don't think that's accurate. How did we get on this subject anyhow? --Danielia _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Alternative top 100 albums ever !! (No B&S - boo !)
by Ben Ferneyhough 29 Jan '99

29 Jan '99

Greeting earth creatures, in todays Guardian they have made this chart asking 'a mixture of historically aware folks from all areas of the music business' which included Lemmy, Gruff Rhys, Julian Cope, Sarah Martin (I was wrong, there is B&S content !!) She voted . 1. Tom Waits "Nighthawks at the diner" ". Oscar Toney Jr. "For your precious love" 3. Dusty Springfield "Dusty in Memphis". Anyhow, here's the top ten, us Nick Drake fans are in for a happy time !! 1. Nick Drake "Bryter Layetr" (1970) 2. Tom Waits "Rain Dogs" (1985) 3. The Band "The Band" (1969) 4. Gene Clark "No Other" (1974) 5. Nick Drake "Five Leaves Left" (1969) 6. The Beatles "A Hard Day's Night" (1964) 7. Curtis MAyfiled "Curtis" (1970) 8. Todd Rundgren "A Wizard, A True Star" (1973) 9. George Harrison "All Things Must Pass" (1970) 10. Todd Rundgren "Something/Anything ?" (1972) Not much '90's stuff is there ?!! The first 90's record is Jeff Buckley's Grace from 1994. Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_@-@.--</ `--'\ \ <___/. \ \\ " / >=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| Boo hiss.... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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