October 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Ban this sick stunt!
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

Robin 'the hooded man' Stout wrote: On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real life" when it just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on crap quality film. Real life for me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo, having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike to work or wander round town. I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about those bits but sing about the bits in-between. Hang on a minute. Does someone know something I don't? Have the band really been working on a track about having a poo? That's just revolting! Which member of the People's Republic of B&S was responsible for that? Please tell me it wasn't one of the girls. Anyway, Hefner can't talk. What kind of real world do they live in? I saw their new video the other day. It involved the band running around parks with no clothes on. That never happens round my way. Actually, they were too prudish to really take their clothes off and instead had big body stockings on with hairless genitals attached. But that's even more unrealistic. Can I take this opportunity to nail the lie that the Beatles' dentist gave them LSD in 1964? My Beatles trivia bank is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure they were still giggling from being introduced to waccy baccy by Dylan at this stage of their career. I don't think the LSD came till '66 for Lennon and '67 for the others. First sitar: Norwegian Wood (1965). Conclusion: you can introduce sitars without being being an acid-crazed hippy. Shame though - it would be interesting if the delay on the new album had been caused by the band turning into brain-addled loons. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Talk about bum cakes, Campbell's got 'em...
by Alasdair Cook MS1996 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

Why are people saying there are no aunts in pop? What about Adam? BJ wrote: > Viv Anderson. Lindsay Anderson. > Either way, one question (we're getting ahead of ourselves here, and Belgium > have to defend a corner) must have been asked with reckless abandon: > > 'Tell me, Mrs Anderson, why did you give your son a GIRL'S NAME?' Oi, that's my grandpa's name! And if he can have it, then it's OK? OK? Deary me, I was almost threatening there. Who's that laughing at the back? I can be hard if I want to be. No, I can't actually. In fact I'm so soft I'm actually going to be used as an airbag in the new Volvo. Archel said: > posting to sinister is very like masturbating. no, really. it's healthy in > moderation, but if you start obsessing about it, always thinking of new and > exciting ways and places to do it, or are doing it more than once a day, then > you should start to worry. it won't make you blind (though as ailsa observed > on a bus last week, the six listees present at the time were ALL > short-sighted...) but it might make a mess. I discovered the other week that I am probably one of the blindest people on Sinister, with a prescription of -4.00. And I am a complete wanker, so you're wrong Rachel. Ailsa moaned: > My secret spies (by > which I mean I can't remember who told me this) tell me that all of the > band except Richard have written stuff for the new album. I don't > really know if I like this idea. No, but I did like that song wot Mick wrote, "Grazing in the grass" I think it's called. And continued with: > I danced to Bon Jovi, Steps and Britney Spears last night. And I > enjoyed it. Just to prove I mean what I say about having no pretensions > about musical taste at all. You can ask Alasdair, if he stopped being > horrified long enough to watch (although he was dancing to some pretty > cheesy stuff too). Much more fun than the (cancelled) Arab Strap show > that we were meant to be at would have been, I imagine. > Indie-schmindie. P!O!P! is where it's at :) No, not really much fun at all, in fact much like paying 3 quid to listen to daytime radio. I don't think I can actually enjoy dancing to a song unless I like the song, consequently I only danced about 5 times. Is there something wrong with me? Actually I had a much better time last night as I only paid 2 quid to hear a quite splendid new band called Senna. The gig was made all the better by the fact that some kids (quite possibly their mates) were dancing about like fools at the front. I hadn't been so impressed by a band for, ooh, 2 weeks. And I endeared myself to my mate's mate's sister's band by telling them they were better than Sleater-Kinney, who are their favourites. What I didn't tell them is that Sleater-Kinney bored me shitless (boom and indeed boom, Queen Tubs) when I saw them so it didn't take a lot to beat them. And P!O!P! is indeed where it's at, but S!H!I!T!E! is what we were listening to, Ailsa. I have heard a rumour that Arab Strap cancelled because Aidan's dad died, so I may be willing to forgive them. Todd got very upset: > I almost cried. She just managed to dismiss what has brought so much joy > and relaxation to my life, that is the musical experience of Belle and > Sebastian, in a few seconds of ignorant sorority girl bullshit. I don't > care if she liked my music or not, everybody's entitled to their own opinion > but she didn't have to just totally shun something just because its not > within the realm of her little conformist, sorority world where everybody > looks alike, talks alike, and thinks the same thoughts. Well, she can if she wants to. But what difference does it make, it's her loss not yours. The overwhelming majority of people hate the music that most of the people on this list like, it's just something you've got to get used to. If she enjoys listening to the top 5 then so be it, it doesn't (or shouldn't) take anything away from your enjoyment of B&S. Come oan, cheer up! For me? :) Songs with speaking in them. I really like the end of Suede's 'Stay Together', in fact it's one of my favourite endings to a song because of the general chaos, which the speaking enhances. Or something. Also the lovely Camera Obscura have a song called 'Annawaltzerpose' with speaking in it. I can't remember what he says but it's something about spinning round at 100 miles an hour. It's nice, anyway. But not French. And finally, Nickole "quality is my middle name" wrote: > i met this boy from the london college of > printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once > he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was > very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one > else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go. > so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world > famous pop stars. Funny, I've seen loads of world famous pop stars in that pub. Tim Hopkins, Amos Memon, Pam Berry, the list is endless. No, wait, it just ended. Actually there are probably more but I can't think of any right now. Oh, and Trouser's book of rock is indeed excellent. Such choice snippets as: "One of the main reasons for the success of Fleetwood Mac was the extreme beauty of it's female members" and "Mark Knopfler is officially acknowledged as the last great guitar hero". Priceless stuff, definitely one to curl up in bed with on the long winter nights soon to be upon us. The book that is, not Mark Knopfler. Alasdair xx <stillshit><stillshit><stillshit> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: And then one day she cut her hair and I stopped loving her
by poetryplace2 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

Well, I am as keen as anyone to clear up once and for all the vexed issue of "props", and so I put the miracle of the wiggly-waggly web to work, finding this page: http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Bayou/2835/ebonics.html Not only does it tell us that "props" does in fact mean "recognition", but it also suggests that "swervin' & pervin'" means "riding around in your car just to show off", "skrilla" means "money" and "buga wolf" means "a woman who is ugly but thinks she is cute". Well I never! Someone was going on about songs that have speaking in them. I quite like them. Especially if it's Phil Oakey doing the speaking. I think they've got a bad press cos of that fella out of the Blue Aeroplanes with the face like a relief map of the surface of the moon. The pinnacle of the genre must surely be Melvyn Bragg's version of "Walk Away Renee" with that there Duane Tremolo on geetar, now re-released on that new compilation thing. It has many Murdochian moments, not least the bit where he says love is like "being on one of those fast rides at the funfair, the sort that are scary and you want to get off, but as soon as you're off you want to get straight back on again". I had a dream about Peter Miller the other night. He looked like a fabulous furry freak brother with a big bushy beard and an afro, and he showed me this magazine he published called "Acid Rock", which had My Bloody Valentine on the cover. I've been reading this book what I borrowed off Nick Dastoor about Orson Welles. When I get to page 199, who should make an appearance but everyone's favourite French litigator Mme Cécile Aubry? Can I just point out that Harvey-the-invisible-rabbit will *not* be playing at the Pocaff? We promised to never book him again after he put on KISS face-paint, ran amok and trashed the joint the last time he played here. Re: Mums in pop... How on earth did I forget to include Mama Cass? Straight to bed with no porridge for me. Stevie Troussé PS Mistopher Christopher and Warrender John both back in the same week! Now, whatever happened to Watson and Begbie? Hmm that sounds like a good title for a detective series.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: l'aigle
by nickole quality gaston 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

alright first off, i have been on this a while, but ive never really posted.... i just had to comment on this though. when i went to london last year i met this boy from the london college of printing, and he told me that i had to go to the spreadeagle because once he (or someone..) saw graham coxon in here. he also said that graham was very pissed and rude/mean/just generally not nice. and supposedly some one else saw all of blur there. and me being a silly american, i had to go. so anyway...we went, i was horribly dissapointed to not see any world famous pop stars. but thats ok, it was still fun. im thinking that it must be the same place i went, because how many pubs would call themselves the spread eagle? i remember it was in camden. i hope you have fun tonight and if you see graham tell him i said hullo, if hes not to pissed and grumpy. love nickole At 08:34 AM 10/1/99 +0100, you wrote: >hello again my lovelies, > >first of all, apologies for posting twice in twentyfour hours blah blah. >now, it seems that my message last night made the get-together in the >spreadeagle tonight seem like an exclusive invites only do, of the type that >usually only occurs at posh embassies and the like. WELL IT'S NOT. anyone >who can make it PLEASE come and get oh so tipsy with us - it'll be a laugh >and a half. shit, the last time i made it inside the spreadeagle i nearly >snogged geoff, so if that gives you any idea... > >soooo..... >WHERE: THE SPREADEAGLE, PARKWAY >WHEN: SEVEN THIRTY TONIGHT (FRIDAY) > >i expect to see as many of you as possible there. THAT INCLUDES YOU, LITTLE >MISS STRANDED-IN-LEEDS ;) > >right, that's enough of me, > >love > >Marcus XXX > >mjmo2(a)cam.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: People on trains.
by Brandt Fundak 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

I have been working in a large North American city for the last two months and every day I take the train to work. I am sure this is rude, but after two months I recognize people and I watch them. Sometimes I wish I could talk to them or something, but mostly I want to watch and not get involved, and they probably don't want to me to get involved. I was thinking about writing a story about the people I see on trains, but I haven't quite found the inspiration or the plot yet. And for whoever said that the song "Chickfactor" was pish, shame on you. You are wrong. And I am kind of shocked that no one mentioned Watoo Watoo when talking about French bands. Anyway. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Orgasms and Dear John
by Robin Stout 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param><smaller><smaller><smaller>Archel agreed that Hefner sing about "real life" I don't think Darren from Hefner can really say his world is more real than Belle and Sebastian's. They both sing about different sides of life. I happen to identify with Belle and Sebastian's point of view more, and I'm pretty sure there's others on this list who feel the same. Just because it's not what everyone else is singing about doesn't mean it aint true. On a similar subject, I get annoyed when programmes on telly are called "real life" when it just means they contain lots of sex and violence and are filmed on crap quality film. Real life for me is getting up in the morning, doing a poo, having some toast then getting on a bus or my bike to work or wander round town. I do more thrilling things too but I like the way B+S don't sing about those bits but sing about the bits in-between. I think the closest you can get to real life is "kitchen sink" drama. And B+S do kitchen sink damn well which is why I think a large number of B+S fans, like me, like Pulp too. The Royle Family was good last night wasn't it? I like Anthony the best because he always gets the blame for everything. When my friend and I were trying to write a sitcom durning the summer we wrote down a list of typical sitcom characters, and one of them was the hard done by character for whom everything always goes wrong, like John from Dear John. We also had the camp character, the person who thinks he has more power than he does, the idiot and a few others. We couldn't think of a situation though. I nearly saw Richard Still-not-dead when I nearly went to see Peter Skellern play in Nottingham. It was a Skellern and Stilgoe spectacular. I didn't go, though, in the end. Carter USM did a song called Lenny And Terrence which had a cracking orgasm at the end of it. Shame about the song, really. Massive props to everyone |Robin<bigger><bigger><bigger> <nofill> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: PARANOIA IS TOTAL AWARENESS
by Timothy John Roberts 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

>As far as I know the Belle and Sebastian Sitar song is called "Legal Man", >and it's not a real Sitar I think, it's a special Sitar Guitar which is like >a normal guitar only it's got a sort of metal thing at the bridge, which >makes it sound like a Sitar. I think. Stevie plays it. I think. is that like on the twintub remix of starfighter pilot by snow patrol wheres theres that sample of someone saying "NOW YOU TOO CAN MAKE YOUR GUITAR SOUND LIKE A SITAR!"? because isnt the boy geddes involved with twintub? or am i just getting confused? about, like, everything? >...for a >great pop record with sitar on it, try Ananda Shankar's 1970 album (i >think it's self-titled)...it's got a cover of Jumpin' Jack Flash that >rocks the free world. yeah, thats on david holmes quite brilliant essential mix. >Oh, Bridget Bardot too, for sultry French singing. yeah, shes on there too. has anyone noticed how i have subtly brought the disparate threads of the universe together? sitars/french stuff? its like live aid. or alternatively the last half hour of some post-tarantino yoof film. oh dear, nick hornby rears his ugly head again... >Any of us Belle & Sebastian fans will immediately identify with >the main protagonist's love of music, and probably his neurotic antics >as well. no thats the shoe by gordon legge youre thinking of. i cant put my finger on it, but whenever i read nick hornby something just seems really false to me. and did you not notice how that book is actually an attempt at a justification for going MOR as you grow older? or it just me? >Some of us have feelings that we just dont have the words to >describe adequately and when we try some of what we mean is filtered out >by our inability to find the right language. er, yeah. im going for a lie down from tjohn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Eargasms with my mellow waxing*
by Mark Casarotto 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

Oooh ooh! I know this one! "Rocket Queen" by Guns 'n' Roses. Now stand up all those who knew this but were ashamed to say. And you, Hopkins, no use trying to hide it. You know how when you're listening to your favourite band, you'll occasionally have little Moments when whatever song you're listening to makes you feel totally at peace with the world, so happy you think you're going to burst? Obviously B&S do this to me quite a lot, but it caught me unawares the other day, cos it was Seymour Stein that did it. I've always really rated this song (more than anyone else I've discussed it with, it seems) but it's the first non-Struan song to have had this effect since god knows when. Rhoda has that effect every time I listen to it. Please release it, Stuart, it's so lovely... Was the Richard Stilgoe programme the one where they did something a bit like Battleships? I thought it was fantastic. "About a Boy", I can exclusively reveal, must be a good book cos I worked on it! I had to research popular culture in the time period covered by the book, what was top of the hit parade, which films were out, what trainers were people wearing, that kind of thing. It was quite fun, although having read the book the only thing I can say for sure is my work is the reference to Mr Blobby. Oh well. But Mr Hornby is a thoroughly delightful man, as well as being a role model for slapheads everywhere. And (don't forget) Belle and Sebastian figure in the High Fidelity film soundtrack, though I haven't a clue which song. And in the plot - Barry slags them off while they're playing in the shop. Christal B - you're not getting through to Erica cos you've got the address wrong. Why not go and check it? I want to have a baby. Oh yes - more big hugs for Alyssa Marie - hope it goes okay, honey! Mark xxx *another bit of pop trivia. Anyone? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: beeeep, tournez la page
by Archel1978＠aol.com 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

bonjour sinister. HIGH FIDELITY no. nonononono. i don't identify with the bloke in this book at all. maybe because i'm a girl??? i dont know, but i didn't like it much. although it seemed to modestly show men as being rather sad and pathetic, it was really saying 'hey, look at us, we're sad and pathetic, how cute is that? and you, women, are more pathetic for needing us.' okay, maybe it wasn't saying exactly that, but that vibe was there. and i am not obsessive about music, which is another reason why i didn't get it, i suppose. i mean, i am obsessive about music i love, in a way, but not in the 'alphabetical classification of 6000 cds and detailed knowledge of b sides' way. is this a gender thing too? FRANCE marcus disagreed with me (how dare you) about rap but went on to mention intimidating french bars, which reminded me of an a level french exchange when our 'correspondantes' promised to take us to a 'real english pub'. i thought this rather undermined the idea of a cultural exchange, but as it turned out i needn't have worried, because the french idea of an english pub involved table service, bright light, and certainly nothing approaching a decent pint of ale. pubs, and tea, are about the only things i miss when i go to france. now i'm sure french listees are about to tell me of wonderful places to get both tea and a real pub atmosphere, and i will take your word for it, but i doubt i'll be able to afford to go again until i'm about 30 at this rate. THE FRENCH SONG this is a sample from a song entitled 'le chanson francais' by al boley, who is not famous now but probably will be soon: un, deux, trois, quatre, je passe l'aspirateur avec un petit chat. cinq, six, sept, huit, les grandes vacances dans une gite. neuf, dix, onze, douze, tes fesses sont grandes comme toulouse. <chorus> ou sont les toilettes? ou sont les toilettes? la, ou la? je ne sais pas. this is what happens when you let would-be comedians who can't speak french write french songs. on the other hand, he plays b&s songs on his guitar at parties, so it's not all bad. ORGASM SONGS well, continuing the french theme, does 'je t'aime, moi non plus' by serge gainsbourg and jane birkin count? also i seem to remember that 'she's my heroine' (?) by skunk anansie features skin sounding... excited. LE WEEKEND oh no, we're not allowed to say that any more are we? well, in that case i hope everyone has a very good 'fin de semaine'. luv archel xxx ****** Rachel Playforth archel(a)iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I could be an interesting book. But none would understand it, not even me.
by BabyChris Crystalballs 01 Oct '99

01 Oct '99

Some one mentioned "about a boy" by nick hornby. I like that book. mmm....... rolos. It was really rather observant, and I felt that I really understood some of the emotions. I think I was quite like the wee boy in it (I've forgotten his name) as people disliked me for not being the same as them, and this pushed me even further away from them. I don't think thatI should have to listen to crappy dance like the vengaboys ect just to be accepted by people who I don't even like. someone else said that they didn't like narrow minded people. I guess that I am quite narrow minded, as I hate all dance music (I can't dance, so what's the point) and pish pop, made by brainless fools without any ability to make beautiful music. I probably should stop listening to music that makes me melancholy, but sometimes sadness is beautiful. It's far better than no emotions anyway. I asked a friend if I was narrow minded, and got the answer "You are right to hate dance. You are the one who is correct, so you cannot be narrowminded, as all inteligent and nice people know that dance is shit." yup. Since when were old scotish ladies b&s fans? or are the bbc taking the piss out of us? babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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