November 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: The New Wave of Nouvelle Vague
by poetryplace2 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Good morning, sausage jockeys! May I suggest that Sinister adopts Keith as its official Scottish non-league football team? The tousled club entrepeneur drew 1-1 with Forres Mechanics this weekend: a very creditable performance. Aran-cha-cha-cha asked about the links between Nouvelle Vague cinema and Belle and Sebastian. This is an underappreciated area of cultural inquiry. How many of you knew, for example, that Chris Geddes was "best boy" on Godard's "Les Topographies de Tristesse Indie-Schmindie" (1987), a provocative and insightful analysis of the lives of Cure fans in Marseilles? The film also featured one Leo Carax on key grip. Furthermore, it is understood that since attending the recording of the Black Sessions, Eric Rohmer has become obsessed with Isobel Campbell, saying that her "insouciance et vapidité écossaise sont parfait pour mes films". At one point, the Gallic auteur took to stalking the Jean-Seberg-de-nos-jours through Kelvingrove Park, and gave her poor Afghan hound, Waldo, quite a fright. He is now subject to a restraining order. Finally, no discussion of the subject is complete without a mention of Stuart David's time at the Ecole Superior at the Sorbonne (1992-3) where he was often to be found entertaining fellow students with his controversial theories on 'cinema discrepant', which held that the future of the medium lay in super 8 home movies of squirrels and lickle clay models. His essay "Give me tweedom or give me death" appeared in the May 1992 issue of Cahiers du Cinema. Re: "Hurley's having dreams" - is the line 'Hurley dreams of the time when he was a horse in Czechoslavakia' a reference to "Closely Observed Trains", the Czech new wave adaptation of Bohumil Hrabal's novel? I dunno. Maybe there is something on the excellent B&S Reference Fox webpage (I can't remember the URL, but there's a link at Sinister central). Why does nobody talk about The Remote Viewer on this list? I was asking about them at the Rough Trade shop last week, and rarely have I seen the sales assistant so animated. Such was his enthusiasm that I bought their lp, and I am pleased to report that it has usurped Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" as my bedtime record of choice. I especially like the track that sounds like the Aphex Twin navigating a barge through the Bush of Ghosts, and discovering a Robot Elephant graveyard. If you know what I mean. I even like the one that has a drum sound that sounds a bit like "People are People" by Depeche Mode. Mr Messent, I doff my cap to you. According to last week's Melody Maker, there is a track recorded for the new B&S lp called "Winter Whiskey". How we laughed. It looks like there will be a social at the Poetry Café this Friday, bands still TBC, but it seems possible that those spangly jangle-merchants The Foxgloves will be making an appearance. More details will appear on the Cheapster message board, no doubt. As you were Stevie Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: GYBE & Iain Banks
by William Hayes 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

There's not really any relation between the two but they are bpthe things I have been enjoying recently. I bought Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada last week, the Godspeed You Black Emperor record, and while £10 is a lot for a two track EP it was still worth it. Mark Niciu has already sung praise to them on this list but he forgot to mention the vinyl at least has a great cover, mat grey card with gold foil stamp, it's lovely. That's one of the main reasons I usually only buy proper records. I understand many of you like Looper, I considered buyng the new single or EP, something about being up a tree. I had a listen to it at my local record store, Woodstock Records, St Albans, and one song does sound like it might turn into The Whole of the Moon at any moment, I was also disturbed by a sound stolen straight out of a B*witched record, I thought I'd leave the purchase untill more thorough investigation can be carried out. Just so all you Looper fans out there can rest assured my musical taste is questionalble, I actually like Isobel's songs. If any of you are Beck fans, are you looking forward to his new LP, I'm really not sure about Sexxlaws, but no matter what it's like I'm going to try desperately hard to see him play if he does any gigs here. Is anyone into James Bond films, there's an exhibition at the Serpentine (in London) of the work of Ken Adams, he made most of the miniature sets and things for the films. It starts 17th November and is free, anyone interested in meeting up there to have a look around please e-mail me privately. Back to the subject, I am currently exploring the work of Iain Banks, I'm reading his sci-fi stuff at the moment but the dramatisation of The Crow Road a while back on TV was pretty good. I started with Feersum Endjin which is short but incredibly imaginative, I usually find SF books badly written or just a poor story but this is a great book, as long as you can get the hang of skipping in and out of reading phonetically on a regular basis. I don't normally let myself buy books because of the ease of access to libraries but I do like them as objects almost as much as for the content. I bought Feersum endjin to read on a bus and I've read it three times in six months, you always find new things you missed before. This lead me to buying Consider Phlebas, his first SF, and it's just as good so far, if a little more conventional. Take this as a recommendation, there's no point me doing a book review here, but they are definately worth reading if you're into that sort of thing. Thanks to Honey for sorting all that mess out, I've only just joined and it looked like the end, but reason prevailed (hopefully), those B&S diary extracts are great by the way, looking forward to more. Billyhaze +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fwd: cloth
by Mr Beaker 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Please see attached from Oon. I'm sorry I haven't forwarded it to you's all before now. I did try but "squeaky clean" mummy swallowed it up and spat it out real green-like whilst the list was on two minutes half-bored at the local juvenile correction centre. Yesterday I played table-tennis. I am now waking with one of those limps that is halfway between a full-calf pull and a slight strain. You know...one of those limps that everyone thinks you're putting on to get sympathy from the girlies. This conclusively proves you should always warm up with some bending, feeling, rubbing and stretching before diving headfirst into the real thing. Anyways, Oon's pooter's probably workin' a treat right now but just in case... --- oon oon <oon_oon(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:06:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: oon oon <oon_oon(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: cloth > To: meepmeepmeepmeep(a)yahoo.com > > > did i told you my email address is also dead too. > so please write to oon_oon(a)yahoo.com or > oon_oon(a)doramail.com > > please tell the list if you can, i don't have anyone > address right now. > > love, > oon xxx > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A little help please?
by Brandt Fundak 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Might anyone on the list have an updated Lucksmiths tour list? I really want to see them play, but have no clue if they are coming any closer than chicago. Since some b & s fans are also Lucksmiths fans, I thought I'd ask. Thanks. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: two layers of wool and tweed
by mhintz＠eden.rutgers.edu 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Some might say this is about four months too late, or that it is three years too late. But I put a Tigermilk review of sorts on the Stolen Kisses site. Does anyone have a complete listing of Bands That Reviewers Say Are The NEW Belle and Sebastian? I only know of Hefner, Hopkirk and Lee, and the Clientele. Of course none of these bands really sound like B&S. But journalists can be lazy. Anything with a quiet guitar and a man singing. Thank god the Gentle Waves aren't the new Belle and Sebastian, due to female vocals. (When Isobel's voice breaks and she becomes a proper man, we are in trouble). The first time as tragedy and the second as farce? I'm still scared of the sitar. Living and loving Matthew Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonaly young.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Sinistre monde of POP
by Arantxa Sanz 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Hi all! I am taking a course on European Cinema and this week and next one it will be focused on Nouvelle Vague.We have to do research on our own on some influences they received and acknowledged or how they influence other artistic works,and prepare some presentation to show our conclusions to the rest.Supposedly we have to be clever enough to unveil some hidden ones... Being aware of Isobel's 'in the face' fondness of 'Pierrot le Fou' or 'Jules et Jim',though all i know about filmic inspiration for Stuart is Hal Hartley's movies,is there any explicit reference in Belle and Sebastian lyrics/videos/artwork or/& The Gentle Waves (or other nineties bands)arising from N.Vs films? I have been told something related to 'Hurley's having dreams' ,but I am not sure what it is,and 'Is it wicked ...?' video, but I have not seen this latter. 'Masculin/Femenin' by Goddard was (allegedly)one of the first films about how market had contaminated art,in special, music and offered a bleak ,hopeless portrait of ye-ye scene.I have not seen this one either,but I am trying to read the script to use it as a basis for my work,and that's why I would like to find some 'experimental' confirmation of G's possible influence in Stuart's well known opinion of musical career and marketing. Any contribution will be welcomed. Thanks all Lurv Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Bunches of arse
by Martin Robinson 01 Nov '99

01 Nov '99

Dear all, I have been recently browsing my local book store with a keen eye on new fiction. And I came across a book called "Primrose Hill" by H.L Falconer about a loss of innocence in a summer of smoking pot and drinking cheap cider on said hill. I reckon the author must have been spying on us. I don't know if it mentions inept football playing, Orange Chocolate Fingers or Marcus's Jasmine tea as I've yet to read it. But it seems our Sinister liasions have been documented. Talking of books, I just got the new Michael Hornburg book in the post all the way from the good old US of A. It smells lovely, I nearly went to sleep cuddling it, but I found I couldn't hold that and my Montreal Expos inflatable baseball bat. Oh dear too much information. I mean I loved his Bongwater and can't wait to get my teeth into his newy. That doesn't sound much better. Oh well... Is it just me or does part of the verse of Looper's Y2K sound like it's going to turn into the Whole of the Moon by the Waterboys? Not that this would be a terrible thing, I once went to see Mike Scott's gang in Oxford for some reason. I was a lot younger and innocent then though, I'd never even been to Primrose Hill for a start. And I do like Starry Sarah's new Sinister "guitar chord of the week" contribution. Keep them coming. Can I personally recommend Db Maj 7? Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings ... being updated v.soon (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S If you are fortunate this may not reach you because of the current impasse here. Which is why I have made no effort to make it at all entertaining or interesting. I don't know what the excuse for all my other posts are. Ho hum. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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