January 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Oops
by Robert Foster 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Oops, I just sent and e-mail asking people to meet me tomorrow. My dad just phoned saying that we have to go out somewhere. So tomorrow is off. Not that any of you were going to meet me anyway. :) Sorry for wasting peoples time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Pending Box Sets, Chicago Pipedreams, Other things
by Brandt Fundak 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Morning all, Ever since I left Chicago I have a had a cold, and while my sore throat has gone away, my sinus cavity is full of fluid and really not nice, so I am a bit on the cranky side. However, I love all of you, and don't want to bring you down, so I will take it out on my coworkers instead :) I'm really bad with transitions, so I'll use headings, for easy skimming, reading and ignoring of this message if you like. WEIGHING IN ON THE BOX SET If the box is nothing new except for a snazzy carrying case, I think I will have to pass. I am not enough of a fan boy to buy a case to hold me belle and sebastian eps in (because they usually wouldn't be in there anyway) but I am enough of a fan boy to be subscribed to a mailing list, own everything they have ever put out (except the Gentle Waves which isn't belle and sebastian really) and travel to see them multiple times if they ever cared to grace this country with their presence again. But I just can't do a carrying case. CHICAGO PIPEDREAMS I think when I move to Chicago I would like to find some people to play music with and maybe even get a little serious about it. I have this plan to have $5000 before I even attempt a move, but I feel this is probably unneccesary, since my feeling is I will get a job pretty soon after I move to town. as a result I will have money to buy some musical instruments. I'd actually like to do multiple bands, maybe one straight rocking out band and then maybe a boy/girl duo with instrument switching that would be a cross between the Crabs (pre Sarah Dougher), Holiday FLyer (pre Verna Brock), and Quasi. These are just pipedreams however, so I thought I'd share. SOAP OPERA MARK Every day at work we watch this horrible show called the Bold and The Beautiful. It's bad. But, like a train wreck, you can't stop watching it. Anyway, yesterday, the plot moved (which happens like once every six months) and my coworker Lewis jumped from his chair, dropped to his knees and extended his arms in adulation. It made my day :) DISAPPOINTING, LIKE EVERYTHING IN THIS TOWN My friend Liz and I caught dinner last night and drank coffee and on the way home we notcied that that moon was starting to be eclipsed. It looked really cool, but was cold as hell out, so we decided to go in her apartment and wait until around 10 before 11 to watch it fully eclipse. Fortunately for us, because our timing sucks and Cleveland sucks, a giant, thick cloud blooted out the moon just as it was about to go red. Yet another of life's disappointments. LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL I'm taking it easy tonight. I promised Ree and jjh-b tapes, so I am going to stay in tonight and make those for them. I also need to send my next package for Andreea's wonderful tape tree, but if Heather E. would be so kind to wait a day, I will tape jj's offering as well and send her both the 2nd and 3rd tapes in the tree from me. Then tomorrow I am going record shopping at the coolest record store in Cleveland. I have a big long list of stuff I want to buy so I will probably be a fiscally unsound little boy. I'm going to try and keep it sane though. LIBERATION It's interesting not being smitten with anyone. I may have to try this for a while. Actually that isn't true. I'm smitten with my views of my past relationships. Well one in particular. Silly me. THAT'S ALL FROM HERE Sorry for wasting your time. For those of you on the digest, this post will be easy to skip. For future reference, just skip the titles with "Brandt" or "bfundak" in them. Have a good day, take your vitamins and try not to get sick. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lets all love each other
by Robert Foster 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Hello. I haven't written in a long time, that's because I've, erm, I've, er, well, you wouldn't believe me even if I told you, so I won't. Anyway, I'm going to London tomorrow, I don't know what for. I just fancied a day trip to somewhere and London seemed a hip and happening place. Any of you lovely people want to meet me or something. If you do then I'll meet you in the Contemporary Fiction section of Borders in Oxford Street* at 11 o'clock in the morning. I'll be holding a copy of Catch 22 by Joseph Heller in my left hand. come on, what do you say. Oh yeah, I'm 19 years old and a bloke. Rob *The contemporary Fiction section is on the second floor. If you still get lost ask at one of the tills, or try the security guard at the door. He always gives me evils when ever I walk out. :| If you still can't find it, go home. erm, thinking about it. If you e-mail me privately as well, as I'd like to know how many people I'll be meeting tomorrow. But I think I'll probably meet no one. Knowing my luck and all, oh well, mustn't ggggrrrrumble +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lloyd's Names, and the rest
by P F 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

The other day somebody mailed re. the dearth of unusual names in pop songs. (Odd, given the proliferation of ditto in pop stars' children's names?) But some do spring. 1. The oddest name in pop that I've heard is in Ray Davies' 'Holiday Romance'. So odd is the name that I've forgotten it. It's a bit like Millicent or Tabitha. 2. Speaking of a Millicent, Lloyd Cole had one in 'Big World', B-side of 'Lost Weekend' (1985). And LC has used loads of other unusual names: Jesus, Jody (but not Judy?), Rusty, Jesse... (see Papercuts 2 for more details). 3. 'One little girl's called Jane-Marie / Another little girl's called Felicity / One little girl's called Sally-Joy...' 4. 'Michelle / Ma Belle / Sont des mots qui...' I don't know: there are loads. What we should do is a names-in-songs service. Folk who feel under-represented in pop should say so, and it shouldn't take long to come up with a song that does feature their name. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: why is throbbing gristle considered inappropriate in disco?
by Kevan Cooke 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

hello folks, hey, does anyone know anything about the flintstone comedy show? it was on bbc2 at about half past seven in the morning in the weeks before christmas, but now seems to have been replaced by tom and jerry. anyway, it was a shit early seventies flintstones spin off featuring adolescent pebbles and bam bam in a band called the bedrock rockers. the rest of the programme was dire, but the bedrock rockers are now one of my favourite bands - any information about who actually sang the bedrock rockers' songs would be gratefully received, but please mail me directly. before the willennium youn said of string bean jean: > Phil could be short for Philip or for Phyllis, couldn't it? > Or even Philomena. i had a think about that, and i believe that phil is a girl. why? because struan always refers to boys by their full name, and to girls by a shortened name. it's true, just look at this list: sebastian, anthony, michael, belle, jenny, jo, judy, lisa. see? and don't go trying to think of other examples to prove me wrong because quibbling just doesn't suit you. i seem to have bought the new hydroplace cd twice. i don't know how, but i have. i may now attempt to play both cds at once in an ill advised experiment in quardrophonics. i'd tell you just how good the cd is, but you'd probably get the wrong idea and think i was trying to sell you my spare copy. beck? bah, it was pretty obvious that he'd sold out when the photos of posh and beck's wedding were sold exclusively to hello magazine. i must say i'm looking forward to the release of "commando squirrel", i hope it'll have that instrumental one the gentle waves played live, and maybe even the isobel cover of "kinky love" too. i am also looking forward to the subsequent opportunity to buy the essential "gentle waves cardboard sleeve" into which the two cds will nestle nicely. that'll probably be followed by the opportunity to buy an official "b&s side project plastic bag" into which both gentle waves and looper releases can be placed together. lovely. mark, is it moe tucker? is there anyone in the south of england who wants a couple of kittens? a friend is moving house and can no longer keep them, i can email a picture to anyone who might be interested - sorry for the blatant list abuse, please mail me directly. bye bye, kevan p.s. a willennial present for you all: http://www.splishsplosh.co.uk/belleandsebastian/song.html *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: all my troubles seemed so far away
by Archel1978＠aol.com 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

i'm moving tomorrow. not many people will be interested in this, but since it means that i'm leaving the fair shores of sinister to journey through the dangerous waters of jobless, internet-less, family-less independence (oh shit - what *am* i doing?) i have to mention it. i'm depressed. i blew a job offer yesterday. it was like in 'just a minute' where any repetition, deviation or hesitation was penalised. (oh well done archel, alienating the remaining half of the list who hadn't pressed delete after reading the word 'depressed'. 'just a minute' is a long-running UK comedy quiz on radio 4, okay.) anyway, because i hesitated (for like, 2 seconds), when being offered the job (which admittedly i don't really want, but beggars can't be choosers), they suddenly changed their minds. fuckers. still, my 5 star (in every sense) boyfriend phoned me instead of going to see kate rusby with alasdair, which seemed like a lovely sacrifice at the time, but since ally didn't see her in the end anyway it's not quite the same, not that phoning me was the actual reason he didn't go anyway... er, where was i? oh yes, so i got to have a good moan at him about how unemployable i was. in my weary, jaded mood i say yes! to the box set. i mean, i'd stoop pretty low to make money at the moment, so i'm not going to criticise anyone else (especially a bona fide business whose *job* is to make money) for doing so. not that i'd buy the bloody thing of course, what kind of mug do they think i am? hmm, momentarily cheered up then by the sight of my cat sitting in front of my speaker with a rapt expression on her face. didn't know she was an r.e.m. fan. she looks a bit like the hmv dog in front of the gramophone, only she's not a dog and it's not a gramophone. oh, now she's ruined it all by jumping up on the desk and trying to sit on my tbwtas cd, which is just not on, however cute you look. anyway, thanks for joy, fun, seasons in the sun (and snow), friendship, picnics, tigermilking, repetitive strain injury, square eyes, P!O!P! facts, flattery, poetry, hospitality and more. i'm going outside. i may be some time. archel xxx *********** Coming soon: Buzzwords ~ new writing on the web ~ All submissions/enquiries to: archel(a)iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Caffeine intolerant
by Michele Waggner 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Casarotto-the-Suave surprised me by mentioning the Violent Femmes in a favorable light. I'm trying to picture him with a baseball cap on backwards spilling beer all over a sweatshirt with Greek letters on it (which letters, I assume, spell "Abercrombie"). I can't quite see it. Maybe it would be Art. You can't spell Casarotto without "a-r-t" , you just have to move them around a bit. However, Violent Femmes are indeed grate... sometimes you just need a good time. The first time I saw them, which was longer ago than I can say anymore, there wasn't a frat boy in sight. It was in fact at a folk music concert in the shadows of the battleship on the Hudson River. They shared the stage with the likes of Odetta, Joan Baez, Suzanne Vega, etc. When they sang "Country Death Song" I laughed my (american) ass off -- Mr. Hopkins would love it just for how it takes the piss out of Dylan. Which was my take on it anyhow. A couple of years ago, the VF came to play at a university in this town, big event here where nobody EVER plays. It was an outdoor gig, and the neighbors were up in arms. One man rented himself a loudness measuring device and lurked around the university and abutting streets documenting the sonic impact of the band and writing down all the vulgar words they used to prove how people were imposed upon while they sat on their front porches. Much debate ensued in the "Letters to the Editor" column. We now get no more live outdoor music that isn't symphonic or swing in this town... and the lurker is on the Board of Education -- diligence rewarded. Life in New England. As for Kate Rusby... yes indeed, she is GRATE. I think she should be given an honorary list membership so that Mark can vote for her as his list crush. He'll want to after he sees her. (And he likes it when Miss Vicky gives him a good beating, don't let him kid you.) I was lucky enough to see Miss Rusby when I was in London and I think you all should go. It was very "fucking B+S" as we used to say. The other 90% of you who can't go to the show can all go to her website and hear her magnificent voice at http://www.purerecords.demon.co.uk/index.htm Martin, whatever did you want to know about Jefferson Airplane that you didn't learn on the Fulton Street set? I think your listening might be enhanced if you twined some flowers in your hair. Write me if you want to know something... I'm no expert, they were the favorite band of my ex, but I did dabble quite a bit. I liked "Triad" quite a bit, but that was back when we were sexually revolting...um, revolving :) Speaking of boxed sets, the thing to do to maximize sales is to add the all important "extra track" or "previously unreleased track" which you take from some bootleg everyone already has anyway. Then you get to say, "we did it for the kids, so they'd all be able to have it and we get to foil the bootleggers at the same time." Don't forget to release it in all formats as well. One good thing about bundling them all up together is that people then spend the whole amount at once, rather than choose to buy them one at a time as funds permit. Speaking of Hopkins, which I did above, I heard he was writing a novel which was to be serialized here. I believe it was titled, "Up Against the Wall, Motherfucker." I don't think he ripped that off from J.A. though. Play nice kids, --Michele (young at heart and reasonably ignorant, vying for the title of "Machiavellian Bitch Queen of the Millennium" ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Box Set Go Go's and the Whitby Prawn
by Martin Robinson 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Another day another Dollar, And what a great band they were. A bit like a half of Buck's Fizz without the cherry. Talking of 80's pop I got a hold of the first Aztec Camera album yesterday, admittedly about two decades too late but what the hell. And what a lovely slice of popkin pie it really is. Walk out to Winter is a fine, fine ditty I think I could play till the cows came home. But I don't think I should really elaborate on my current domestic living arrangements. As for fat bottomed girls, without coming all over the Queen, or something, they make the rockin world go round. A bit like the Gentle Waves. Maybe. My god, I just quoted Queen I think someone should shoot me now, next I'll be appreciating the works of that Steven Morrissey bloke everyone seems to harp on about. As for art I didn't make my bed this morning , as an artistic statement like, but the cows when they come home were more interested in chewing the Cud. Which pissed me off no end as I loved that Robinson Crusoe song and now it's covered in cow slobber. Ho hum. As for the Box Set thing. I think if they truly wish to empathise with the kids, the nice people to do business with at Jeepster should create a webpage with instructions of how to build your own box. No sniggering Moore. All you'll need is a bit of cardboard, some double sided sticky tape, a pair of blunt scissors and some nice artwork you can print out from the webpage. I tell you if they don't do it I will. Maybe. Build your own box with Belle & Sebastian. What fun! I definitely thinks it's time for me to find a job where I actually do some work then I could leave you lot in peace. Never mind. Anyway, I'm off to patent my Struan Murdoch nasal wigs and a selection of Early Learning Centre Belle & Sebastian items and not going to the pub at all. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) P.S Everyone should list crush vote Ally Cook cause he's great and deserves more than a fleeting Mark C vote. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: art shmart
by Roderick Brannan 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

Hey beautiful people! In view of some of the recent discussions about art, I thought you might like to hear about my girlfriend's (who is a fine art photography student) exhibition which I went to on Monday night. Admittedly her work was quite good (a series of photographs of horizontal landscapes taken at slightly different angles and arranged into a complet arc - impressive when up on the wall) but the other two "artists" who were having the exhibition with her produced between them some of biggest piles of shite masquerading as art I have ever seen. One of them found old Pictionary drawings and exhibited them along with a pretentious statement about progression of identity and ideology (they weren't even her Pictionary drawings for Christ's sake!). The other one drew some pictures of fish, and calculated how many fish could live in a certain Loch. Pish. Maybe I'm just a cynic, or uncultured, or both. Who knows. Who cares. Who killed Laura Palmer. Anyway, I'll be off now. Exams beckon. Pish. Young Roddy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ooops... forgot the b&s content bit...
by Mark Whitsey 21 Jan '00

21 Jan '00

<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>ooops... silly me.... this is the b&s list after all, not the place for young boys to have a whine... Axss the lovely Velocity Farewell says, </color>I don't read all the posts to this list... I find loads of them absolutely boring... why should I care about the new spot that suddenly's appeared on this poor boy's/girl's face just before their so important date? Yeah, quite. I mean, if someone can't express themselvees well, then they can't be <italic>really</italic> miserable, right? RIGHT? Wrong. So what about that B&S content then? Well, it's kinda hard for a band who do fuck all... kinda like, "hey, got any info on those new Elvis dates? Cool, but I don't think his new stuff's as good as the ones he did before he died..." Hmmmm.... maybe try a dream? B&S dreams always go down well... unfortunately the only dream I can remember is last night's episode... I was some sort of secret agent, doing something really unuseful like running around dressed in a balaclava (reminds me of a few actual nights out, actually...) when I got caught and shouted at... then they voted if they preferred me or my freind Simon, who runs the Manics site/chat room - they preferred him, so I got booed at and then they chopped my head off... I woke up screaming and shaking really badly... Hmmmm I bet that one's not in Idleberries dream bit... Sorry honey, went off on one a bit there... I'm really trying with this B&S bit, honest.... Ok.... the best I can do is, to everyone concerned (except the bit of anatomy involved, of course), PLEASE LEAVE ISOBEL'S RUMP ALONE!!!! You're making me feel like a jealous boyfriend with your stories/pictures/documentary evidence of the aforementioned arse... mind you, Ben's letter had me giggling. Sorry about the complete lack of content.... if anyone feels desperate for a crush vote, I've got one to spare, so bribe me baby.... Love and hugs, Mmark xxxxxx<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param> <nofill> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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