April 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: sodding Angry Testical Pinchers Festival.
by idle berry 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

SOD ATP! Sorry, but I don't want to hear another bluddy word about it. So you had a grate time. Oh yeah, wonderful. Well, can we like, just get on with things now, please? ATP, thats sooooo last week! So, while you lot were trying to be all cool to mogwai and things, I was busy fixing a deal to own the world, which is currently under pants. There are shares available to be bought in my new governmental system, and the more you buy, the more lax I shall be towards you over breaking any of my new laws now in place. which are as follows: 1. No mention of ATP before or after the event. Treat it like sex. keep the details to yourself. Do we really need to know what a major event of your lifetime it was? punishment: Britney Spears force fed into your working environment, by karoke, or bad commerical MW radio, until bedtime 2. No eating mashmallows without offering me one first punishment: having a discussion Margaret Thatcher about society when she was in power and undestanding the reasoning behind the poll tax. 3. clothes shops must be forced to sell clothes below the price of �30 per item in order to make it more accessible. You too gucci. punishment: wearing shellsuits, sidey pony tails and those boot like trainers and being forced to do 30 minutes a day work out to 2 unlimited. S+M for sporty spice types. 4. do not interupt me when I am daydreaming. punishment: having an alarm clock strapped to your body which rings whenever you are allowed to go to toilet. and so the list could go on... haven't made my mind up about the rest of the laws yet, but trust me, their tough, unfair and ridiculous. by the way, I had a lovely weekend. dinner, champagne, prostitutes (well, walked past a few and wondered where they do "it" with punters) and maltesers from the mini bar. OH! AND I SAW SOMEONE I KNOW ON "LOVES LIKE A DOG!" THE ONE LAUREN LAVERETORY SLAGGED OFF! THE ONE WITH THE SPOOKY BABYS CRIB AND THE YOUNG MUM! I KNOW HER! AND THE "DAD"! so there you go. All hail me. yadda yadda yadda. remember, no more ATP mentions. By the way, now I own the word, I'm thinking of making sinister village my capital. Providing you all behave yourselves otherwise I'll make it a camp prison. Trust me. I can make it scary for you. love, Idles. ===== http://www.geocities.com/idleberry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Something About... Passing The Football
by P F 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

I have been struck by the amount of stuff churned out of the earth, not to say the turf, by the sinister tractor. There's been a lot of impenetrable talk about 'The Eurotrash Theme Tune'. What's all that about? I think too many folk are watching too much bad TV around here. I keep seeing references to 'Ant and Dec', 'GMTV', 'CDUK' and the like. Next thing we know, it'll be the Sporty Spice & Lulu Fan Club and Noel's Late Late Breakfast Show. Keep TV at Saturday 12:20 and 10:30, kids, any more is dangerous. The Hewitt talked about worldwide picnics, very cogently. But why the reference to bottles of cheap red? Are they the picnic drink of choice since I've been away? I don't know, in my day it was cans of cheap lager; baguettes; large crisps; talk about Dostoyevsky; East European classical CDs (I'm *still* waiting for that CD to come on at a party. Whatever happned to it?); Carol Decker, if you were lucky. Black Box were Italian, no? She, or whichever she it was, certainly sang like a wounded stallion, not to mention a chicken. Speaking of which, why do some of us harbour falsified nostalgia for late-80s Melody Maker when it proclaimed the mid-summer UK top 3 singles the best on, so to speak, record? Only we can say, and we're not, cos we can't. Lucy A and Paul F seemed to request visual, and preferably visceral, evidence of the Murdoch footy palaver. The curious thing about the event was that there was *no evidence*. Cameras stayed unfilled, binaural mics stayed sheathed, blood was spilled but went uncollected. I'm just wondering which of us will be the first to crack and admit that *it didn't happen at all*. Darn! I just did. Nick D was really bang on the money on those UK / US / or was it Canada? polarities. He said: we want to have a proper winter. And we do, and once upon a time we did, like he said. He added: we do play hockey. Which some folk do, which, whatever its other egregious effects, once allowed Barry Davies to cry 'Where were the Germans? And frankly, who cares?'. He said further that we don't see famous people in these parts. And naturally we don't, save in precisely the ways that he enumerated. I'd only substitute Simon Callow for Alan Bennett, and Scully for that matter, and her partner Alan Moulder. If there's one famous London person you can see whenever you want, it's Simon Callow. He's your man if you're into bow-tied oblivious struts. Come to that, rumours and sighs abound. The boy Troussé once saw the Modfather himself, the Weller - but which was the more impressed by the encounter? Steady M once saw the Sundays, without even paying. Still, this is just talk; it's written on the wind, it's everywhere I go. They say that all good things must end some day ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: legal man - literally
by yellow bananas 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

here's the conversation between my friend and the cop who stopped the car cos we were doing corners at 60km/h. cop: show me your driver's license. my friend: sure. cop: when was your last drink? my friend: 10 i think, it was coke. cop: the powder kind? my friend: no, the black liquid, fizzy kind. cop administers breathalyser test. cop: have you had any listerine? (what kind of drug euphemism is listerine? ) my friend: no. although i do prefer plax. cop: did you have any lollies? my friend: i just brushed my teeth. and the b & s content? get me IYFS was playing the whole time. another mindless post, huey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i hate deadlines
by robert smith 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

hello everyone, finally the easter holidays have arrived! 2 whole weeks without university! this however has been dampend a little by the fact that i have two nasty essays to do. they should of been in by now but i made the silly mistake of going to visit my friend in sweden. before i did this i convinced myself that while over their i would do some work. i never really convinced myself, but i'd made such a grand effort i thought i'd go anyway. still at least i managed to get some more time by charming my tutors with an unforgivable amount of toadying. nevermind. i don't suppose anyone on the list has any thoughts about the influence of byron on russian literature? if you do an e-mail would be great. (better not be to the list though as this would probably get up peoples noses). i'm off now to find some more inventive ways of wasting time. bye p.s thanks to everyone who said how much they liked williams days. because of how lovely you all were willaim shall return with another page of nothing happening. bye again ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I live here.
by Paul Field 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

Hello again all! Everybody seems most perturbed by the lack of photographic evidence of Mr. Murdoch's bare-chested exploits last weekend...being of the Argonian red-headed origin with little tufts of chest hair myself, I am willing to sell photographs of my chest. Any takers? Hmm. I guess I will think of some other way to make my fortune. Then again, maybe I will just make some fortune cookies. Ok. Some free advice: Don't leave the coffee machine on all weekend with just a tiny amount of coffee in the morning and then immediately fill the jug with cold water. Things tend to break and you could end up cutting your finger. Not that I would ever do something so ludicrous you understand. Huge applause to Vel for sending some poetry by Olivia Weatherspoon...she is wonderful. I don't claim to be any kind of an expert when it comes to poetry, but I do love her work. Her pubs are cheap too. Though they tend to be full of old men without any arms. They have intravenous drips attached directly to the barrels. Italians: Were Renée and Renata Italian, or were they just faking it? Save your love...what a classic! I think I was about 6 at the time it came out, and my sister had it on 7". I bet it's worth a bomb now. In more ways than one. Also, shouldn't Chelsea F.C.'s cup final songs qualify as Italian chart entries? The lighthouse family are from Newcastle though, and the Bigg Market there is something like Milan I believe. OK. Enough gibberish from me for one day. BMX boys have a lot of fun... Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: He was the prince of infidelity
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

I'D RATHER UNION JACK THAN STEEPLEJACK >also like robyn and ben and all other sinister types in north america...i >think that stum playing soccer with NO SHIRT is just so spectac. really, >you uk types complain about bearded men and dronerock bands and that just >shows how little you've really got to complain about. for real. you don't >really have winter for example. but we *want* winter. It used to snow in London when I was a kid. No more. It rained all last week. Because the weather is so changeable no one is equipped for it. Houses don't have roofs, for example. And in 'summer' we all die. > or hockey. We do! Many moons ago, a renegade public schoolboy had this great idea of melting all the ice with his flaming arse and replacing the puck with a ball. It works well, although everyone falls over a lot, what with ice skates not being very stable on grass. > or beavers and mounties clogging your streets. No, but we have otters and beefeaters. They're a pest. > or no really good bands who live in your city and > play all the time and are people you meet in drinking > establishments and record stores. I *never* see famous people in London. Oh, that's not true. I saw Hugh Scully and Alan Bennett once, but not together. Also, Jude Law used to hang around our school an awful lot. But none of them can play indie-pop for toffee. We have to go to the East Sussex coast to see anyone good. Or Mike and Pam's house. And really, it's not all that great seeing people you admire in the flesh. I mean what are you supposed to say to them? It's all very embarrassing. You just end up cringing at the way people hang around them and strike up dire conversations, knowing you couldn't do any better. It's just too unequal a relationship. You know so much about them (or think you do) and they know nothing about you. And unless they fancy you, what reason have they to want to find out. They just end up having to be polite or rude. The only way it works is if you have a mutual friend, just as in any other social meeting. I suppose bands play a lot, but I'm not much of a concert-goer. Let's keep live music dead. The only band I want to see all the time never do, which is probably just as well or I'd be broke. >really, i mean every now and again i run into don mckellar >or that gawky dork from sloan, but thats it. and mo berg, who? >but no one even knows who he is outside of canada. ah. RECOMMENDATION SPOT (I LIKE THIS GAME) All this pining for Britain reminded me of "Richard Smith's Compendium of Britishisms" (http://toronto.planeteer.com/~rsmith/phrases.htm) I forget how I stumbled across this moronic page. Its humour derives from a combination of innaccuracies, bizarre inclusions ('top sad', anyone?) and the dream that people might actually read it and come over saying things like "Mucker, that donkey's breakfast is abso-bloody-lutely brill - must buy one goes like stink!" ROB'S DILEMMA >I was wondering, hypothetically speaking of course (ummm), >what you all would do if you had an advance copy of the >new album available to you. I know alot of people like to >wait...I mean, there is definatly something to be said for >anticipation and the satisfaction of reaching the end of a >long wait. I thought about this at the bus stop the other day. The 341 came but it wasn't due for another six minutes, so I refused to get on. I have a policy of only getting on buses if they come at the scheduled time. If everyone boycotted all those 'wrong buses' then perhaps they'd get their timekeeping act together. Anyway, it's such a thrill when a bus finally arrives on time that it's worth the wait. Say no to the pre-release menace, Rob. TWEE ICONS AREN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE As if 'Cock Fun' and 'Judy is a Dick Slap' weren't enough of a kick in the teeth for us all, check this out: The Times: April 15 2000 Little prince falls to earth as neurotic philanderer FROM ADAM SAGE IN PARIS THE most successful writer in French history and hero to generations of Gallic children, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, has been knocked off his pedestal by the posthumous publication of his wife's memoirs. The author of The Little Prince is portrayed as a weak-willed womaniser who left his Latin American wife humiliated and frustrated. "He was the prince of infidelity," said the magazine, L'Express. Written in 1946 by Conseulo de Saint-Exupéry, to whom the writer was married for 13 years, the memoirs were left to gather dust in a trunk after she died in 1979. Discovered by a gardener three years ago, they were given to the historian, Alain Vircondoloet, who has published them on the hundredth anniversary of Saint-Exupéry's birth. The book amounts to a frontal assault on the heroic status enjoyed by the writer and pilot ever since his death in the Mediterranean during an undercover mission in the struggle against the Nazis in 1944. Far from being the brave, strong, creative hero that the French remember, Saint-Exupéry emerges as an anguished soul incapable of satisfying his wife and fleeing into the arms of his mistresses. Mme de Saint-Exupéry, who was born in El Salvador, recounts their wedding night, for instance. "At the hotel he lay down, fully dressed, on the sofa. He woke up the next morning." With his mistresses, he appears to have been more active. His wife reveals how he "would return home with his handkerchiefs covered in lipstick". One of his mistresses, Elvira, a 26-year- old aristocrat, according to M Vircondolet, would telephone at 4am. "I know your husband is not asleep," she once said when Mme de Saint-Exupéry picked up the phone. To another he wrote passionate love letters to say that he would be prepared "to spend seven years at sea with you, my darling". A third hid in the bathroom when Mme Saint-Exupéry arrived. "I saw the skirt of a woman dressed in green. My husband was red and feverish and shouting with anger. It was all a mixture of farce and tragedy." The author suggested a journey to China as reconciliation. But his wife guessed the real reason for the trip. "It's because you like Chinese women, isn't it?" she said. "Yes, Conseulo, I like little, silent women," he replied. Mme de Saint-Exupery tells how they repeatedly moved homes when her husband failed to pay the rent, having squandered his earnings. They eventually separated but met again in Pau, southern France, during the war, about a year before his death. "I wanted to kiss him, to take him in my arms," say the memoirs. "He closed his eyes and murmured 'I would so much like to sleep'." Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Twee adj. Brit. excessively sentimental, sweet or pretty. [C.19 from 'tweet', mincing or affected pronunciation of SWEET] ie. NOT GOOD (Collins Millennium Dictionary) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Frazier Chorus, among other things
by Hester, Mark (ELS) 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

I think I may have been asble to post to the list for ages without realising it....the nursery door was swinging on its squeaky hinges for days, bright sunlight streaming in from outside, yet somehow I failed to notice. Here in Oxford, the weather continues to do weird things, it was giant hailstones a moment ago. On Saturday night I went to see Hefner, supported by Murray the Hump. The venue (the Point) was really really crowded so that Hefner's singer Darren called out "Who booked this place then? surely there are larger venues in Oxford?" to which somebody shouted back "Yes, my house!" B&S played here once, just after LLPJ came out, the queue was huge and I didn't get in. It was one of the biggets disappointments of my life. Well done the Angel for mentioning Frazier Chorus. It's hard to imagine them doing a cover of 'Anarchy in the UK' though (or is this a joke?). They sounded so fey (but not twee) most of the time as I recall. The songs I remember are quite magical, such as Dream Kitchen and Nothing. I wish I actually owned those two albums, 'Sue' and 'Ray' but I suspect they've made the sorry step from bargain bin to Deletion by now. I did actually buy 'Ray' from Boots (hardly the nation's premier record retailer) but when I got it home I found that it played BACKWARDS and I did not particularly want to feel like I was participating in that particular part of 'Cheggers Plays Pop' so I took the cassette back to the shop. Unfortunately they didn't have another copy in stock so I had to settle for the cash as there was nothing else there I fancied (no-one else either, for that matter). Here comes the rather functional sig. file, so you can all guess what an Assistant Local Applications Manager does, should you want to. Mark. -------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Assistant Local Applications Manager Elsevier Science Limited The Boulevard Langford Lane Oxford OX5 1GB Tel. +44 (0)1865 843455 Fax +44 (0)1865 853319 Web: http://www.elsevier.nl/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: And how was your weekend?
by Brandt Fundak 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

This message is not about Belle and Sebastian, apart from the fact that by the time the weekend was over I had effectively holed up in my apartment and felt that I should clean, so I put my Belle and Sebastian cds away. Basically my weekend in a nutshell: The Good: 1. Had a job interview for a job where my salary would increase by about 33% of my current salary. 2. Found out IRON CHEF is on Sundays as well. 3. Bought a new Television. 4. Did laundry and dishes and felt overall productive. The Bad: 1. My car got stolen. 2. My old TV died, necessitating buying a new TV 3. Laundry in my building costs $1.25 for a wash, $1 for a dry. So I ended up doing a lot of reading and listening to Field Mice. Not an up weekend. Brandt ===== "Selma, Jub Jub is fantastic! He's everywhere you want to be!" --Troy McClure __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: crabs!
by Steven Kado 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

ha! gottcha! after posting about bum eels i figured any lewdsounding marine creature would surely net me another list crush vote. thanks to whoever was btw, don't worry i'll never find out i'm too shy to actually vote for anyone in case they have voted for me and then we'd both find out and then i'd blush and do the email equivalent of running away and never talking to them again or drinking too much whenever i meet them socially until my drunken antics and otherwise furtive and weird behaviour turn them off completely and i know there's no danger of me ever ever ever accidentally touching them in case some sort of 'liking' explosion takes off and we'd have to hold hands in public and such. phew. so yes. i'm shocked and horrified that the sinister list band has gone by the wayside. maybe what we need is a tribute tape project. then you could hear various international sinisterines abusing accoustic guitars and belting it out for one and all. that may be sort of like torture, i'm sorry i mentioned it. but think! yes it could be so fun. like robyn i went on sinister chat and was completely weirded out. so i stopped that entirely. no more chatting for me. not even in real life. i make such an ass of myself in conversation. not like in email where i am a paragon of good sense and wisdom... er. also like robyn and ben and all other sinister types in north america...i think that stum playing soccer with NO SHIRT is just so spectac. really, you uk types complain about bearded men and dronerock bands and that just shows how little you've really got to complain about. for real. you don't really have winter for example. or hockey. or beavers and mounties clogging your streets. or no really good bands who live in your city and play all the time and are people you meet in drinking establishments and record stores. really, i mean every now and again i run into don mckellar or that gawky dork from sloan, but thats it. and mo berg, but no one even knows who he is outside of canada. oh, and dave bidini, he goes to shows lots too. but i mean, moe berg is kind of lame no? at work today i noticed that beared men (not bearded men with trendy hair cuts, or with any tacky things like bad jeans or pony tails) have beardy pants. and these are BEARDED men i'm talking about, we mostly do classical music concerts at the glenn gould so these are classically bearded men and they all wear different pants than their clean shaven contemporaries. for real, theres just something about the *fit* of them, that screams BEARD! i bet they wouldn't even sell them to me if i asked. hey list, nice shoes! s t e v e n k a d o ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Bedsit infamy, they've all got it in for me!
by Pelican303＠aol.com 17 Apr '00

17 Apr '00

Lucy, I would like to congratulate you for absoluting outdoing me...as if my problem weren't enough, you gave us a list including bleeding nipples (which somehow seems much worse) and giant blood blisters. I, personally, handle pus much better than blood. Uh oh...I better find some content quick. Any of you NCers feel like meetin up on this grand Twee Picnic Day? I know there are a bunch of you out there. Let me know, I'd love to meet you. As for Italians, I can't think of any pures, but the list of Italian-American contributions is huge ("That'sa spicy meat-a ball-a" ------->"Aaaadriiiaaaaan" Eeek...gotta get to class. Rob (le mod) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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