January 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: a one line joke virus warning foubling as a test message
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 18 Jan '01

18 Jan '01

hmm. Virus warning. I have a friend who forwards them constantly, and it really bugs me. I am getting fed up with spam (especially from some guy called Lowfly or Art Vortex who, unsolicitated, sends me big graphic attachments. Annoying ..... Anyway, to matters at hand. ie, eg, or ..... for example ***BELLE AND SEBASTIAN*** I am kinda annoyed with the complete lack of Belle & Sebastian in my life. I know we (as a list) have been over and over the whole thing about no one in the band wanting it to be *all* they do, and I know that the band owes me nothing, but still ..... It's not like there wouldn't been any new material. There are *loads* of brilliant songs which haven't been released. Lord Antony, Rhoda, The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, plus the myriad of songs which were (supposedly) recorded during the "Peasant" sessions and have never seen the light of day. So really, I don't think a new album would be too difficult to hastily compile. Also, the lack of gigs. Now personally I don't really care too much, because ... hey, fat chance they'd ever come to New Zealand, but it does kinda suck. If you're gonna tour constantly (like Bob Dylan) you can forgive an artist for not recording much, because they're always on the road. Silimarly, if you want to be The Beatles, and just *stop* playing live, for whatever reason, and just make music, then .... well, more music. Cool. Unfortunately, B&S are doing neither, and may well turn out to be the Def Lepard of the 00's My sneaking suspicion is that the band has, for all intents and purposes, broken up.I think Stuart D leaving was a bit of a blow for the band, but they soldiered on and released the album anyway, and theb did precisely *no* promotion for it, aside from one press conference, an phone conversation with Steve Wells and a mimed appearance on TOTP. Then nothing. My friends, I really believe, though it gieves me to say it, that this may well be the end of the line. Most of the band members seem to be off doing the solo thing (apart from Stuart, who, lets face it, is really the only person we're desperate for solo things from ...) and no news has leaked from the camp in more than six months. And what the hell's going on with Jeepster? The site never gets updated, the shop didn't even sell the Christmas album, and there have been no newsletters in months. RIP? oh God, I hope not. feeling bleak ..... Lawrence +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The gnarl under my thigh is a kind of irregular rhumboid shape, further complicated by a slight ridge heading left to right, although it is possible that this last observation is not unconnected to the back pocket of the jeans I am wearing.
by Greg Pallis 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

This is a good week. On Sunday the adverbs contest ended. All you had to do was write me a one-line email, and way over 1000 people on the list didn't bother. Three people did. The winner was "vaingloriously", a staggeringly top word. On Monday I stayed up working really late, 'cos there's this Sixth form essay competion at my school, and it's compulsory to anyone doing English A-Level, which I am, and I wanted to write a good one because the top prize is fifty quid, and, well, I really, really need fifty quid. It's about a possibly autistic maths genius failing a job interview in a florist by thinking obsessively about pop music, and in particular the mighty Strawberry Switchblade. Everyone else's are all massive long poems about staying in their rooms listening to the Manics or recycled movie plots, so I'm in with a chance, I'm thinking. And then my English teacher, who's just about the coolest person on earth, 'cos she's young and hip and set No Logo as our set coursework book and used to write for NME (!), comes into our lesson and asks "Why Strawberry Switchblade?". And I say "Because they rock". And she tells me how my essay provoked a crazed evening of singing along to 'Since Yesterday' and 'Trees and Flowers'. Which was completely unexpected. "Well you know how it is, it's boy meets girl and pretty soon it all goes wrong...". And then Sarah Clarke said: "Was it to hide Stuarts semen after he wanked in her hair?", and Peter Miller is right, this was unarguably the gratest line ever. And then I started thinking about noses. 'Cos I suddenly realised mine is too big, and I was panicked. And then I looked at all my friends, and all their noses are too big too. And so is Brad Pitt's, and Britany Spears', and ewwww! And then I started staring at people on the street, trying desperately to find someone with an acceptable nose, and I couldn't. I think only a few people on earth might have noses that are just about acceptable. It is impossible to have a nose that is too small. And then I talked to the boy who I hated until the girl who I fancied dumped him, and he was nice. And then I talked to her, and she wasn't. And her nose is too big. So now I don't fancy anyone, really. It's rather worrying, and happens far too often. And then someone offlist sent me a tape of Bax rarities, and to describe it as absolutely stonkingly brilliant would be nowhere near praise enough. They are good. > [Rinaldo stuff] Interestingly, I liked Belle and Sebastian a lot more when I still lived at home and had never learned to masturbate. I still like them now, though. I am eagerly awaiting the first pornographic B&S story now, it could start something like "Belle and Sebastian are not snogging. They are, however, screwing like rabbits." or "Sebastian thinks Belle kicks with the other foot. Sebastian is wrong - she kicks with both.". Oh, I don't know, there are people here a lot filthier than me. Wait a minute, it's the chorus of 'Tina Dreams' and I must jump around like an idiot and point and dance and things. Right, back now. I wish I didn't do Further Maths A-Level, or that I still did but actually liked Maths. I printed out Erica's 'Trash Girls #1' and stuck it on my wall... My favourite Trash Girlz moment is: Trash Girl #1: (Looks at me) Me: (Looks at Trash Girl #1) Trash Girl #1: (Dances at me) Me: (Dances at Trash Girl #1) Trash Girl #1: (Leans over and snogs Trash Girl #2) Maybe you had to be there. Do people ever use the word "stomper" except in the context of "rollicking Northern Soul stomper"? And why are my posts so tediously long? I integrate partial fractions now. Greg +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: putting the SIN back in SINISTER
by Jeff Burke 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

>we appear to be only a few steps away from people posting pieces of >pornographic fiction about the band members like those Star Trek and >X-Files >fans (why IS that phenomenon so common in sci-fi?). I hope i haven't given >anyone any ideas, or maybe i hope i have... > Well I'd say it's cause most of the people into sci-fi (with the exception of Brandon Braga) aren't really getting any. I mean think about it...it's an escape from mundane reality. I loved scifi. when i was 14 and not gettin' any :) and now it still has a fond place in my heart much like Poison and Guns 'n' Roses but it's MUCH more fun to go hit on real girls than it is to imagine muldar and scully getting it on....heck it's even more fun to imagine lisa and...nevermind...:) Just trying to shock ms. morrison out of her silence. the list is naughty and needs it's list dom. I read that review about "I'd really like B&S if i'd never learned to masterbate" it was really quite funny. I'm leaving for texas tomrrow for the weekend. if you don't hear from me ever again. I was murdered by escaped convicts or shot cause I wasn't wearing a cowboy hat or executed for jaywalking. have a nice daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: putting the SIN back in SINISTER
by Rinaldo Thatchez 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

naughty, naughty. shocking really. when I joined up with this list (yes, this is my first post, thank you very much) I never expected to find such a bunch of gutter-dwelling, filthy-minded, potty mouthed gossip mongers. not that that's a bad thing mind you... it's just that B&S are so cute and sensitive and precious and innocent (you can sometimes hear the blushing coming through the speakers when a dirty word or suggestive reference is spoken). 'twee' is the word I think many of you like to use. i often tell people that B&S are 'the wussiest band I will ever love' and i feel quite safe in saying that because i know that i do love them and i think the likelihood of me finding anything wussier is slight. Note: i hope that hasn't offended anyone and i'll be quite happy to define my terms to anyone interested. I remember one critic saying something akin to "I would probably like Belle and Sebastian if I still lived at home and had never learned to masturbate." ouch. well you'd certainly have more time for music appreciation...but it's this rather sexless image i had in my head that has been shattered by your titillating speculations about lyrical subtext and just what is under that scarf. that and honey's promise of trouser fumblings. we appear to be only a few steps away from people posting pieces of pornographic fiction about the band members like those Star Trek and X-Files fans (why IS that phenomenon so common in sci-fi?). I hope i haven't given anyone any ideas, or maybe i hope i have... there, first post jitters out of the way. whew! ryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: sheet music
by chris perriman 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

another day another batch of mails i wonder how many would build up if i went on holiday with no computer access a big thanks to you all who helprd me in my quest for sheet music, Craig said:- Last I heard (a good 6 months ago) the band were working on a book of sheet music but I'm not sure if it got finished or not i looked but couldn't find any info on this, if anybody else as heard anythng? JenOwl wrote:- The only sheet music you can buy for B&S at all in the whole world is FYHCYWLAP. Nothing else has been released yet, though they keep promising they will. But if you want that, I think you can get if from amazon or get it on order. thanks jen, i couldn't find it on amazon or any other web shop sites and i'm not too familiar with FISHYCLAP (i know, i know, call myself a B&S fan ^-^ ) so but thanks anyway and to paul from HongKong, my course is music technology, we mainly learn how to use a recording studio, how to record live, computer sequencing, music theory, composition and performance. i used to be a design student aswell but my heart lies more with music than with a pencil. with my search for B&S sheet music repeatedly sending me down dead ends i've decided to plump for 'star' by primal scream which i know i can get the sheet music for and i think it might sound nice arranded for a string quartet!, whad'you think? my idea of time has skewed somewhat, i keep thinking it's thursday today but that's just because i didn't sleep on tuesday night. i was sleepy all yesterday but tried successfully to stay awake untill i lay on my bed to watch a film at about 9 and then i woke up at 5 this morning, freezing and with the telly blaring. insomnia dosn't happen too often, the last time it happened was the night before i went to the cinema to see deep blue and fell asleep with my head on my hand and my arm bent in a perculiar fashion and when i woke up at the end and unfurled my arm i could feel the blood flowing down the veins of my arm and into my fingers but i couldn't feel my arm itself. it was the strangest thing i have ever felt and not a little scary. i've only ever fallen asleep at the cinema 2wice, this and during star trek ins'erection, but that's just coz star trek's shite (sorry to any trekkies on the list ^-^ ) anyway i'm rambling way from my point oh, someone said who are B&S gonna use as a bassist if they ever tour again?, well i'm up for it, all they gotta do is ask CU all for the now pez* ps: i have cut my lip on the inside and i don't know how and it hurts like HELL when i eat anything salty so *why* have i just opened a bag of crisps? and i don't even like crisps. pps: i've just bought a new guitar and have nobody to show it to so i'll send u all a psychic mental picture... got it?... nice and orange, eh? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: smut smut smut, that's all it ever is with you lot
by cbrown2＠mmm.com 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

Hey chaps and chapesses I do hope that none of you are currently under the dark cloud that is representing the Lurgy that seems to be going around at the mooment. Loads of people have had it and it?s not nice, it makes people miss gigs and club nights :-( I?ve been doing stuff and it?s been quite fun too, the winter sprinter gigs were cool, apart from one thing, they were held in a tiny wee wendy house of a venue, on the first one we didn?t even get in, it was so crowded, well, I did but I managed about 4 baby steps into the crowd before I reached an impasse so I went and had a beer in the pub up the road instead (apologies now if anyone?s posted about this already but I?ve tried searching and it didn?t seem so) with many various sini-types. The next night was better, Tompaulin played their Belle and the velvet underground (tm NME) type thing but did it nicely and I enjoyed it, great heckling though from drunken punters who?ll remain nameless (eh Geoff?) They didn?t let as many people in either so it was less horribly crowded. It were much the same for the next night too when Airport girl played and were fun, whilst new Alan McGee signings January played and were shite, as Ms Juicy remarked: it?s always a shame when you can tell that a band?s gonna be bad just by their hair cuts. As a note you can also tell this when one of their dad?s is sat at the back of the stage looking grumpy behind a pedal steel. The next two days are a blur of ill girlfriend and playstation playing Until.......strange fruit. Once again the curse of the tiny venue hit, and I didn?t get in until about half past eleven but I still managed to get drunk and dance stupidly, just like always. 5 hours sleep later and I?m setting off for Biarritz, Dahling ;-) What a pretty place, all faded 19th century glamour and white walls with Terracotta roofs. And even better, loads of surf shops!! Unfortunately it also had lots of dog poo and very inconvenient opening hours but I didn?t let that detract from me and my long distance lover?s mini-holiday in the winter sun, god bless you Ryanair. Unfortunately, the lovely Katie is still over there (having moved on to the tapas wonderland of San Sebastian) while I?m back here suffering work badly, anyone know of any jobs going for lazy gets who?d rather read books than do spreadsheets and update databases?? Hmmmm bra undoing, a favourite hobby of mine, I?m an ambidextrous uni-hander, but hey, I?m just blowing my own trumpet, a not inconsiderable task let me tells ya (is that enough smut content? It?s seeming more and more compulsory) That?s me done, stick a fork in me Love to you all you lovely people Chrisx PS everyone wave and say hi to my Sister, Filly who?s stalking us all +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Message from our South American correspondent...
by Gardiner, Stuart 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

<anal retentive> Lee said: >The Incas used to chew cocoa leaves for stamina whilst running the high >mountains of the Andes. Erm, well, close. They use coca leaves, the stuff cocaine is made out of. They're still used today - they're great for combatting altitude sickness when you're walking the Inca Trail. And they make coca tea out of them, which is quite nice, actually. </anal retentive> If there were any B&S gigs this year, who would play the bass? Neil Robertson? A 'guest' from another band? OK, Controversial statement: I reckon B&S will only start doing more (any?) gigs if Isobel leaves. After all, she is always the one who gets really nervous beforehand and makes herself ill (didn't she puke up because she was so nervous once? Or am I imagining things?). And when Stuart M smashed his guitar at the Dublin gig, it was just after Bel had left the stage 2 songs before the end for unexplained reasons. And they haven't done a gig since. Of course, whether the band would even continue if she left is a different matter entirely... So she's finally admitted to getting up close and personal with Stuart M then? Does that mean they're going to give up pretending that the sleeve notes to Tigermilk are entirely fictional? And tell us which of their songs are actually about their relationship? (leading candidates include Is It Wicked Not To Care, Simple Thigs, and of course the song Belle and Sebastian... More welcome...). Well, that was all very deep, full of content, and completely out-of-character for me, I think I should stick to talking about bras and bars... Big Stu PS I do like the idea of using an iron to defrost the fridge. Coming soon, using a vaccum cleaner to get things down from the top shelf, and how to use a trouserpress to make a bacon butty. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A grown man of 25 - damn!
by Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

Lawrence Mikkelsen wrote from his lonely pit of Kiwi gloom: > It's not like there wouldn't been any new material. There are *loads* of > brilliant songs which haven't been released. Lord Antony, Rhoda, The > Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, plus the myriad of songs which were > (supposedly) recorded during the "Peasant" sessions and have never seen the > light of day. > > So really, I don't think a new album would be too difficult to hastily > compile. Somehow the idea of Belle & Sebastian 'hastily compiling' an album of stuff left in the can doesn't seem terribly likely. If you want this to happen, I suggest you engineer some kind of horrible accident for them all so that Cheapster can do a Jeff Buckley on them. Perhaps Isobel's headscarf could get caught in the wheels of her Fiat Punto and Stuart could drown in a pool of his own semen. Does anyone else have any death fantasy scenarios they'd like to share? Youn sighed: > So Stuart was 27 years old when it happened for him. Now I'm two years > overdue. What happened for him? Things are happening for me all the time. If you mean hitting it big with a band then I guess they're aren't, though. But let's not go down that road. We're all failures unless we start looking at novelists' start dates rather than those of p(P)op s(S)tars. If you aren't religious, then there are only five important things in life: 1) absence of illness (mental and physical) 2) well-being of family, friends and (if you're really nice) the world at large 3) being sexually attractive 4) intellectual or artistic achievement, which, if appreciated by a wide audience may take the place of: 5) procreation As far as I see it, career success is only a means to achieving points (2) and, importantly (3). Sorry, I don't know where that bout of banal delineation came from. Your vintage fridge sounds much better than all the crappy ones that I've had in my life, Youn. Defrosting them via the means of turning off the power takes hours and then all the stuff in the freezer compartment goes soggy and I feel obliged to throw out the hash brown that I'd discovered encased in ice. So I am forced to device ways of speeding up the process. A bowl of hot water helps things a little, but I can't help resorting to more direct measures. A carving knife is the perenially-tempting implement, but a few years ago I pierced the coolant tube and so now I exercise caution in this regard. For a while I used a hair dryer, but then it blew up and never got round to replacing it. Then inspiration struck. I was pondering the appeal of the hot knife, but tired of the constant reheating requirements and mindful of the aforementioned puncturing debacle I suddenly thought 'Iron!'. So now I use that and it works a treat. You have to be a bit careful not to mistake fridge walls for ice, and it's not possible to reach all corners if your freezer compartment is small. It would be better with a mini travel-iron. I imagine American fridges are much better than ours. When I was in New York I was really impressed by the huge one in my sister's cousin's apartment and its ice dispensing mechanism. Apparently they're quite commonplace over there. I don't think this is another tea/coffee cultural myth. Photojenni27(a)aol.com posted and I shook my head at the thought that there are so many Photojennys at aol.com that 26 people have already resorted to an alternative spelling. God, being a Belle & Sebastian fan is boring these days. Perhaps they'll release another record, perhaps they won't. But if they do, you can guarantee that half of us will say something along the lines of 'well it might not be my favourite album of theirs, but it's still better than anything else around'. This is a sure sign that we've become REM fans. Or is it? Thoughts on the importance of self-awareness and sensitivity to the march of progress in pop music are welcome. N. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: falling on 17th street
by P F 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

ALIVE IN PLACES WHERE THEY SAY IT'S EASIER TO DIE I didn't once know, I once didn't know, once I didn't know, that New York used to be the capital of the USA. Did you? Of course you did, you're American. Like 'blue jeans and chinos'. As the Face put it in June 1989, 'Holly Would'. FOR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DAYS C19 New York had this character called Washington Irving after whom Irving place, but not Washington Square, is named. You can see his portrait in the 'Met', an awfully vague three-letter appellation with so many other applications. Edna Welthorpe would be interested to hear about the geezer Irving and his 'knickerbocker group', who sounded to me like forerunners of Myles nagCopaleen, and thus - 'natch', as they say in Gramercy - of Perelman and Barthelme. Or rather, you would think that La Welthorpe would be interested, but she isn't. Welthorpe was once, I recall, interested in - was it? - Edward Gorey, who is also commemorated some way or other somewhere over there. Not the same, of course, as S&G's 'Richard Corey'. AND THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A BLIZZARD C19 New York was also called 'The Great Emporium'. I am not quite clear why, or why New York State should be the Empire State at all. New Yorkers don't know either. Do they? IT'S A SKETCHY AFFAIR Barnes&Noble on, um, 5thAvenue and 18th(?)Street claims to be The World's Biggest Bookstore. It may be the world's biggest Bookstore, but I'm sure it isn't the world's biggest bookshop. For one thing, I didn't find it that big. For another, I didn't find it that good. The one really notable thing I saw there was a bunch of copies of a Hugh Kenner volume I'd never even heard of, The Elsewhere Community, which sounds halfway to essential before he 'pegs it'. Believe it or not, Kenner has embraced the net and its own 'elsewhere communities', and he says so plain enough in this new little tome. He's not such an old curmudgeon after all. That's *my* job. ENOUGH TO START COLLISIONS Yanks make out that they drink loads of coffee, but they don't. The English think that they (we) drink a lot of tea, but actually the Yanks are tea-obsessed. It's practically a Wildean inversion. AND BARS AND STARS AND STUFF In chickfactor#10 "Stephin" 'Merritt', who is a journalist for the Independent on Sunday, flatly declared - I won't say '*roundly* declared' - that he didn't have a kitchen. I always thought this a whim as absurd as saying 'I don't have a front door', or 'My house doesn't have walls'. But it's actually *true*. They don't have kitchens in New York, save - one has to assume in the restaurants. THAT'S WHERE WE ALWAYS GO Lloyd Cole sings on 'The Paranoids' - sorry, 'The Polaroids' - oops! I mean, 'The Negatives' - 'You gave me a smile / Got off at Astor Place'. I know for a fact that that line has been misheard, but no matter. I went to find out what LC was on about. There are two Starbucks outlets in Astor Place. Two! And it's not that big a road. And all this when the Yanks don't drink coffee anyway. AND TIMES SQUARE, YOU'RE NOT UGLY ANYMORE Knitwear is very important. Said that. I SUPPOSE I'M GOING OVER Who would think of taking a bomb to the top of the World Trade Centre, until the idea had been planted in their head by polite guards demanding their baggage and overcoats at the foot of the building? I nearly wrote a song about it. But that 'bomb' thing has been kind of done to death in pop, hasn't it? Remember Bragg: 'I used to want to plant bombs / At the last night of the Proms'. And don't remember Kingmaker, please, really, don't. SHE KEEPS HER HELLOS AND GOODBYES MINIMAL Folk in New York have heard of la Welthorpe, by the way. But they can't put a face to the name. Can you? OR RIFLED THROUGH THE TELEPHONE BOOK I bet that folks will leap to agree with me if I say that strangers in New York - random characters on the subway and in the shops - are friendlier than round these parts. This one lady pleasantly bawled at me not to me to leave my wallet on a counter. And you would not believe - you really would not believe - how strangers, sane enough people as far as one can tell, will come out with nice comments about your *clothes* over there. AND THE PEN'S ABOUT TO DIE _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Colour my life with the chaos of trouble....
by Photojenni27＠aol.com 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

Hello.... Well, after being let out of the nursery, I'm finally finding my feet tentatively on the hard ground of Sinister and peeping around the corner to take a wee look at the very pretty landscape I see around me. If you haven't already guessed yet, this is my first post :-) I've come out of my lurking hidey corner and after lounging in #sinister for a while to be told by people "We haven't seen you before! Why aren't you posting! We're sure you're very nice and we'll read them, we promise!" So, because you all seem very nice (I'm particularly taken by the poetry parrot and wonder if I'll be seeing his/her colourful form flying over the grey skies of Manchester soon...) I'll take a bow and introduce myself; I'm 18 and short (but I do have a liking for tall men, even if I have to stand on my wee tippy-toes to kiss them) and know the secrets of how to take off bras with your teeth as well as one handed. I'm also a girly who adores Belle and Sebastian (I even have a "We Rule The School" ringtone on my mobile phone) but happens to love "If you're feeling Sinister" more than Tigermilk because it reminds me of when I lived in Glasgow and tripped around the art school and travelling under clear grey yet strangely sunny skies although it makes me feel wonderful in a strange sad way. I do absolutely adore Tigermilk too. I'm still a wee bit uncertain about "Fold your hands child..." but it's Belle and Sebastian, therefore I love them with the whole of my duffle-coated heart and will even go through having my earphones ripped from my ears from evil scallies whilst I'm on the bus listening to them, who attempt to eat my Curlywhirly and steal my fags to protect them.... I go to college, I do my A-Levels in History, Politics and English Lit and I've just done my mocks, but I was feeling really icky inside during them so I don't think I've done too well... I did like the sound of JenOwls pinic under the covers with her Rainbow Brite dolls...I used to have a Rainbow Brite duvet cover when I was wee and when it started to fall apart I made a pillow out of it to still make me smile. When I was a little girl, I used to hide under the covers and pretend that my bed was a shimmering Crystal Palace where I was a Princess and always warm and cozy and I had tiny servants to sing me to sleep and play with me and have tea parties. Oh dear, I do sound like a highly precocious child now...I just hope I'm not on my own with this one :-) Anyway, this is far too long and rambling and so I'll do a Snagglepuss and just bow and say "Exit, Stage Left" and scarper.... Love and Fizzy Cola Bottles Cay xXx P.S. Just a wee thank you to Mr. Carsmille Steve who sent me nice little messages when I was on #sinister once to tell me I was lagged. I never saw you again to say Thanks! Try it, you might like it. Then again, you might smudge your lipstick..... Pulp-Sisters +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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