December 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: A redder shade of neck on a whiter shade of trash
by Daplyn Elizabeth 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Buenos lunes a todos mis amigos. Three quarters of an hour on the way to work is a long time (some of it, indeed, on a bus), but it's much better with a lovely portable CD player. And an hour at the weekend reorganising my music collection (in the course of an almighty cleanup in preparation for Christmas sparkliness) has led me down the memory lane of P!O!P!, if you will. So I listened to "At the Club" by Kenickie this morning as I wandered towards the bus station, boarded the (luckily correct) bus, and finally disembarked in the *industrial park* (park? As if, tchah) whose precincts I have the particular joy to be working within. The bus passes a convent on the way, which is intriguing, but that's about all that's interesting about my daily morning journey, apart from bringing me into contact with schoolchildren again after a lacuna of several years, which is of note purely due to my continually recurring amazement at the varied habits of individual species of the aforesaid. Picture my amazement at just how tightly teenage girls can tie their hair back these days. The lad and lasses of Kenickie are a couple of years older than me, so I was listening to the album first when I was emerging from my nasty (navy, with pink gingham shirt) school uniform into the relative freedom of the Sixth Form Dress Code, and entirely appropriate for those bleak times it most certainly was. "We can't work with heavy coats - they're not revealing; We've got to see each others' clothes, and now we're freezing..." Despite not coming from Newcastle (surely an oversight on the part of the Creator) I empathise with this. Brrr. Although at the time I was more interested in having the right Doc Martens and cardigans (which are much warmer than your customary leopard-print clubgear) to wear down the bog-standard live indie nites at Gillingham's Oasthouse Community Centre (famed in song and story). O the Medway Towns, how very horrible you are. Speaking of sartorial matters, I have fantastic new pinstripe trews with simply enormous turnips. Sorry, turnups. You know. I may wear them bowling *some day soon*. *** <<A light comes on, 5 seconds pass, the light goes off, 5 seconds pass, the light comes on, etc. Personally I thought the judges made the wrong decision. There was this rather groovy photographer, who made documentaries on his family, and besides minimalists get on my nerves.>> Andrew, Martin Creed is not particularly Minimalist. Speaking as one with a passing acquaintance with the movement, it's about being true to materials (see Carl Andre) and spaces (Richard Serra) and architectural form (Donald Judd) and concepts (Robert Morris). Although Creed could be shoehorned into any or all of these categories, it would be anachronistic and facile. And besides, he ripped my degree portfolio off with that light thing, which is to say, he has good taste ;) Feel free to call me an arty wanker. Many have. ** And who amongst us is going to be feeling Strangely Fruity in London for the New Year? Bugger 'A Child's Christmas in Wales', I'm heading over the border. Spent a while last week constructing my Sinister exchange presents and wrapping them up lovingly (OK, hurriedly, I had to catch the post). And after all, what can be more joyous and fulfilling than an hour with a hot-glue gun and a project to complete? Besos (pero solamente a _unas_ personas felizes) Liz D :x "And people say, the games you play; You're either weird or lonely" The Beatified Nicholas Drake, Esq. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: goodbye...............for now
by Doyle Patrick 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Hello all, sorry I haven't sent alot of messages over the short time I have been a member of the list, but I have loved reading all your mails. I recently failed my Psychology assesment (bugger) probably due to my lack of essay writing!! Anyway, the Christmas holidays are on their way and I won't be able to read your mails for weeks now! so I'm tempararily unsubscribing from the list. I can't wait to see you all at the Glasgow gig on Thursday and im sure the gig will be great, Anyone know whos supporting??? I will re-subscribe to the list when school starts again and no doubt I will fail more Psychology assesments..ah well! Patrick Doyle, "The kid with the crimped and overheated hair" P.S Anyone whos going to the Glasgow gig please come and say hi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: nice day for a spam (one glasgow ticket for sale)
by Kenneth P Y Chu 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Ten pounds and a kiss and it's yours. In true Jools Holland style, E-mail, phone/text me (07967 755446) with the reason why should you be sold a B&S ticket. Ken P.S.: Sorry for the short message I'm still a bit ill - I'll write properly next time. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Anyone need tickets for Glasgow B&S gig on the 20th?
by Mark Casarotto 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Hello, I thought I'd let you know that I *may* have two spare tickets for B&S in Glasgow on Thursday ("may" because it's only about 80% certain that I'll have them spare), so if anyone's interested, can they email me off list? It may be 24 hours or so before I can confirm they've got the tickets, so apologies for that... See you in Glasgow :) Mark xxx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. This e-mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e-mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.com www.hitwildlife.com ********************************************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: T.O.P.
by MyMomSays＠aol.com 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Lately I have been going on a lot of walks--sometimes I go alone and bring along music so I don't get lonely, and sometimes my sister goes along with me. But mostly, I go alone. I live in a neighboor adjacent to Bittersweet Park--and, for some reason, this neighborhood is called Bittersweet. As a kid I didn't realize the meaning of Bittersweet--I merely associated it with a color that was some orangey brown in my box of Crayolas; right now I can't actually remember if there ever was an actual color called Bittersweet, but this orangey-brown, perfect for coloring in the empty outlines of a running Deer--I called it such. Once someone visiting from out-of-town commented in this odd name for such a place--Bittersweet is a weird name for a neighborhood and a nearby park. My friend answered his question by saying "Children play here, but blood has been shed." I like the idea of some ancient mishap going down at Bittersweet park; the settlers drinking the tainted water from bittersweet lake and going nuts and killing their own children. I know it's ridiculous of me to want such a thing to have happened--but I can get away with it because I know it didn't occur. Bittersweet was some before-sleep daydream constructed by a bored mid-70's developer. Twenty years ago this was dirt. But I often take a walk by the park. The other night I made a new friend--a jaunting collie that was chasing geese. I never know what to do with my hands and arms when I am walking. One could move them back and forth merrily, but I always feel sort of dorky doing that. Usually I end up shoving them in my pockets teen-angstily. But I was walking along and this Collie jaunted beside me throughout the duration of my walk, eventually coming to regard me as its owner--perking up at the sound of my voice, obeying my random claps and whistles. We walked together for a while, all around the park and then through the neighboring houses, and I eventually lost my new friend. I had daydreamed of me actually being able to live that 12-year old's fantasy of "He followed me home"... but, I lost him somewhere. Last weekend I decided to take another walk with a B&S mix tape I'd made. It was mid-afternoon, around 3:30, and I had to weave through about three hundred canadian geese that were milling around the sidewalk--I was really enjoying myself, don't get me wrong.. the setting sun and the frosty air accompanied with a few of my favorite Belle and Sebastian songs. But I did find out something I didn't know; I never know what to do with my hands when I am out walking, but I found that a few hand claps can stir hundreds of geese into flight. lv mandee +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: twiglets and hedgehogs
by Kieran Devaney 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Dear sinister, tis the season for end of year lists/polls, especially ones about your favourite records or albums of the year. there are lists of certain publications favourite 10/20/50/100 albums from this year all over the shop. am i the only one who finds them annoying and pointless? "but they're just a bit of fun" i hear you cry, well maybe. but i personally think that any list like that seems to stop people talking about the actual records in the list, and instead the conversation will turn to pointless 'this should've been higher than that' or 'wheres...?' type statements. such lists are not conducive to good conversation. plus these lists always ignore more left-field choices in favour of whatever has been fashionable this year - as shown by the strokes/white stripes topping almost every single list i've seen. so maybe the 'wheres...?' claims are not that unjustified, but what i mean is that people tend to start picking apart the lists rather than the records themselves. so neither the artists nor the music benefit particularly. why are the white stripes better than sparklehorse? because they are higher in the chart. seems rather silly and self-defeating if you ask me. nobody did ask me, but i'm saying it anyway. what i'd prefer is if people picked their favourite records of the year (whether it's just one or more than 500) and said what they like about them, rather than playing radically different records off against eachother. am i being overly harsh on list compliers, or is the whole concept of best of the year lists inherently flawed? are such things symbolic of a society obsessed with quantifying everything - having to turn art into sport? do IPC subeditors dictate our youth? answers on a postcard please joe pancake/rachel vester said something along the lines of: "Jeanette Winterson, who is the most abrasive and disagreeable author I can think of offhand. She writes in an irritating way and just takes herself far too seriously while generally being pretentious. And being a total bitch." all of which seems fair enough. she is certainly abrasive and very pretentious (especially some bits of 'the passion' i found that book very difficult to get to grips with), though i would say someone like Joseph Heller was more disagreeable, not because of his politics or anything, but more because of his 'clever' style; which i find almost impossible to like. while jeanette winterson is definitely pretentious and abrasive, i think you have to admire the singularity of her vision - and i think her writing is very affecting at times. i'm not a huge fan of hers though, so perhaps someone who is could do a better job of defending her. i only mentioned her in my post because she seems the complete opposite of JK Rowling and her awful harry potter books which are so fashionable. i'd much rather someone like winterson was en vogue (though i don't think ms winterson herself would enjoy it). the kids reading harry potter could do with an injection of pretension i think, if only so they know what it looks like. JK Rowling once did a visit to the library where i work to promote the first harry potter book (before my time there though i'm afraid), apparently it wasn't very well attended or anything - whereas now just putting on a crappy 'harry potter activity day' basically consisting of the books on tape (the steven fry ones) being played at considerable volume, and an amateur party wizard bloke coming in draws out all the local kids and whips them up into a potter induced frenzy. how times have changed. thats enough for now i think i'm listening to autechre at the moment - thats not very twee is it? i must try harder at that yours faithfully kieran _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: She's Bowling It
by Kenneth P Y Chu 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Dear Sinister, Long time no see, I believe tonight is a Sunday night. I am a bit ill, but I'll write you anyway, cos I love you. (Especially Erin, because I'm her best friend). Wahey! B&S gigs next week! Woohoo! Ok, time for important stuff.. SINISTER INTERNATIONAL BOWLING DAY - 29th DEC Soooooo, how are you all doing on the Sinister International Bowling fronts? Hope you've all been practicing putting your fingers into uncomfortable holes! For the London-ish area bowling boys and gals then: ********************************************************************* 29th Dec, Finsbury Park Bowling Place (Can't remember what it's called), which is right opposite Fisbury Park bus/tube station. I am gonna book a couple of lanes soon.. would the time of 2pm be okay with everyone? Let's all meet at the Fisbury Park Bus Station then at 2, and then we can have hours of bowling fun. Any problems e-mail me, or phone/txt msg me on 07967 755445 on the day, or anytime if you want to tell me how much you love me. ******************************************************************** Big Stu said: >I've come to the conclusion that while the Camera Obscura album may be a >pleasant listen, it is clearly a summer record. I can imagine myself >relaxing to it, wandering around in shorts and T-shirt, watching the specks >of dust in the sunlight from the window. Only if you live in the Southern Hemisphere, I dunno, there's just something not right about singing "..happy New Year you're my only vice" in the middle of June. Love and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Hey - are there any meet-ups before the Glasgow gig? Someone should TAKE CONTROL! Heh. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i left my wood panelling on the embassy coat rack
by andrew thorpe 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Hello Sinister, I was just wondering if anyone had watched the Turner Prize last week. For those who didnt, it was surprisingly interesting certainly for an art program. Unsurprisingly the winner was also the most controversial nominee (coincidence?) A light comes on, 5 seconds pass, the light goes off, 5 seconds pass, the light comes on, etc. Personally I thought the judges made the wrong decision. There was this rather groovy photographer, who made documentaries on his family, and besides minimalists get on my nerves. But dont worry this post isnt going to contest what should and shouldnt be considered art, because despite how ridiculous this may sound switching a light on and off is art. Art is appreciation, enjoyment, if you find something moving its art, and just like music art is all opinions (which means I can say that Im quite fond of The Stokes:) But thats only my opinion on the subject. So I dont get offended when people say modern/contemporary art is crap, (although I do raise an eyebrow when someone claims they could do it) I can easily see where they are coming from when a man rolls a piece of paper into a ball calls it art, and is awarded £20,000. However a few days ago my opinion very nearly changed. This is my first post to sinister (despite being on the list for nearly a year) so I thought a bit of background would come in useful (thats assuming youve read this far). Im nothing too original a lonely indiekid, studying for his A levels. One of the subjects I (misguidedly) chose to do is maths. Over the past few months Ive started to notice that my maths teacher is using the lessons as a forum to get things off his crest - to vent all of his frustration. If something is getting on his nerves, by the end of the week well know about it. Its not just what the lower sixth have done this week (hes the head of the sixth form, sorry its not just you who thinks Ive gone off the point a bit), its not simply confined to the school, but anything, and sadly everything. Ive often disagreed with what he says, but its never really bothered me I find it quite easy to bury my head in my exercise book, and pretty soon his arrogant, close-minded, xenophobic views will go straight over my head. However I found this horrifically hard to do so last Monday. He started off by asking if there were any art students/appreciators in the class, I said yes sir, but to be honest I think my voice was probably drowned out by the other student groaning at the thought of yet another one of his sermons. Anyhow I presumed he already knew I did art, as I have spoken to him at least three times about my foundation year in art (how naïve). He then moved on to talk about contemporary art (I could tell what was coming), I tried to shout some comments out, to try and get some sort of a two way conversation going (as opposed to a rant), I shouted things like Oh! I think you mean DamianHIRST. Yeah, hesss hes pretty controversial butIactually find him quitte inspir... I admit I tailed off into a slight mumble; well ok it was all a bit of a murmur. I wasnt too surprised when he mentioned the Turner prize (as it was on the night before). I knew someone like him wouldnt like it, and I was right, but I dont that excuses his comments. Someone asked him who judged the prize - as to say who would consider this to be art, and my teachers reply? A bunch of DickHeads!!!! He then went on to imply that anyone involved, or who even appreciated contemporary art to be so too! I had no idea what to say, which is probably why I said nothing. Its not the fact that he doesn't appreciate art that pisses me off. I admit its not everyones cup of tea, but he knows I do art, and to be so blinkered to think that its ALL "a load of bollocks"! The only conclusion Ive been able to draw is that he either thinks Im a dickhead - and has no idea that I exist, or that Im a dickhead who he has no respect/consideration for whatsoever. I always knew he thought I shouldnt of taken maths, but I never knew why. Anyway back to Marx and Engels. Cheerio, Andy "keep it all in, and dream it all out" ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Careless Reporting Back Costs Lives
by Peter Miller 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

THE FUTURE OF MUSIC I have joined the MP3 revolution. So far, I've managed to download songs by Kylie Minogue and So Solid Crew, and a *picture* of Lenny Kravitz. I have been accosted by a purple gorilla, directed to the hottest porn today, tempted by one-armed bandits, and all manner of other unpleasant experiences. I have been told that I don't have access to this page or that page and that Mick Jagger's 'God Gave Me Everything' is not a full song (note emerging Lenny Kravitz theme). Is it always like this? If so, I'm going back to taping the top forty. Taping the top forty is the high water mark of my pop experience. CARELESS TALK COSTS LIVES Promises an article about B&S in Brazil. Has anybody seen it? LIST MUMMIES GO BELFAST I think the list mummies should go to Belfast anyway, spread a bit of their magic. CHRISTMAS ...is a time of year when I like to think about Northy. I'M WASHING UP TO US PF said George Harrison made him want a hug. He also said George Harrison is washing up music. Don't go round to PF's when he's washing up, or you'll end up covered in fairy liquid bubbles, like in one of those fairy liquid bubble fights that were so popular before paintballing came along and ruined everything. I think George H's moog extravaganza 'Electronic Music' would be the best washing up music, but I've never heard it. I imagine it would make the bubbles grow and grow, until they filled PF's house and started emerging from the windows. BRING BACK STUART DAVID! It's just an idea. Those ragged edges, that hint of menace. These things are missing from recent B&S recordings. Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hard, fast and beautiful
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Hey kids ..... Sorry, this is short and irreleveant to most of you, but should anyone be interested in photos of a Sinister listee (namly me) getting married, my wedding photos are here: http://go.to/lawrenceandvanessa Like I said, sorry to the 99% of you who don't care, but I know there are a few of you who might. best, Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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