February 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: There's a place where the strange ones go
by vodkabird＠gurlmail.com 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Hullo, Well, once again I am tempted enough by the topic du jour to add my pound note's worth. I read that post by Mr Ewing (what an apt controversy-causing name. I haven't seen such a backlash since Bawbee's reincarnation in the shower, when the nation tutted and sighed and tore up their TV licenses in disgust) and at first I was rather annoyed, and then rather amused. The point is, of course that this person is guilty of exactly what he is accusing the 'indie kids' of being...stuck in the past. Long gone are the days when we used to mope around in our rooms, listening to The Smiths and writing frightening verse. It's not all bedsitland and gladioli now, you know. The music press has remained guilty of this for as long as I have been reading their drivel. Nothing has changed; they use the same tired old language, the same old scapegoats and target the same old groups. Most of those of us who were around when it was gritty stuff are now in decent jobs and drinking vodka on a school night. We can see through it...it's nothing new. I'm sure that as soon as these journos get home, they snaffle their old 'Queen is Dead' 33 and a third out of the cardboard box, crack open a Pot Noodle and spend the rest of the evening crying into their tatty jumpers that have never been washed 'cos Andrew Eldritch once blew his nose on it. Love you all VB xx Being a Rebel's Fine at: http://www.angelfire.com/ia/trustnoone ________________________________________________________________________ --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Will the real Tom Ewing please stand up?
by Stephen Hewitt 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

hey babies long time no type, due to much work rubbish and being told off for reading personal mails in work time... sigh anyway, what an exciting list we're having at the moment, what with struan doing stuff, peacock bloke doing stuff, the duke doing stuff (incidentally i searched the archives for "undemocratic" and got no responses, which was a shame), and The PF sending 16k posts. I must say rector sounds like a job just up Struan's alley, especially if he can do his washing without fear of being kicked out. I read the duke's piece last nite and i think i agree with just about everything that PF said. One thing that did grab me from the piece was the stuff about crying when you hear music. Now i can honestly say that no piece of music has ever done that to me, but i don't think that i have any less of a grasp of the music or even the emotional weight of it, but when other ppl talk about music having this effect on them it makes me feel like i'm missing something. Maybe my upper lip is just too stiff... Still no news on whether Peacock will be visiting Oxford or not, obviously all welcome if he does :) Also still no news on whether Cassarotter wants to have his wicked way with me, NO NO, SORRY, nite out in Ox with me (that's better) that he won in the auction. So are Tangents and Freaky Trigger the NME and MM of the 00s, and if so which is which? xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Hello
by Leonardo Pereira 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Hello Everybody, This is my first post after being on the nursery reading all of your messages for weeks. I don't know how to start this so let me introduce you. My name is Leonardo (Leo) and I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I spend most of the time here at work and here's where I read all of the mails as I work with computers all day long. Well, I have a few questions to ask but I won't ask them all right now. - Which albums from Future Pilot AKA, Hefner and Bill Wells have members from B+S? That's it. Later I'll ask more. Cheerio, Leo ------------------------------- http://www.brfree.com.br - O primeiro provedor gratuito do Brasil Estamos concorrendo ao iBest entre os TOP10 na categoria provedores de acesso VOTE AQUI: http://www.ibest.com.br/topten/topten.asp?IDSite=11835&IDCategoria=27&NomeS… +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: idleberry gets defensive and confused. "Indie kids"??
by idleberry 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Ooh! This looks like fun. Hating indie kids? Blimey. >>1) They like indie music. Obviously. Define indie music. Can you? I can't. I mean, all I know, is what I like is plopped into the genre of indie. But technically speaking, Britney Spears (bless 'er little PVC catsuit) is also indie. Well, shes signed to an independant label. So are Backstreet Boys. And I think Jive Bunny was as well. And Sir Cliff Richard. I don't particularly like these bands/artists. Although I appreciate that some people do. >>2) Their regulation thick-frame black glasses. No more breakable item of nosewear has ever been invented: on slow afternoons I could happily cruise the streets for hours walking up to indie kids,lifting these ridiculous excuses for spectacles from their filthy-pored noses and breaking them at the bridge. How the indie kid would howl! Perhaps they would threaten to "kick my ass". Needless to say all indie kids have adequate eyesight: any slight impairment of vision is due entirely to their regime of perpetual masturbation. I have glasses. They aren't particularly thick, but you know, thick enough I guess. They are dark blue as well, rather than black. I don't have adequate eyesight- I am long sighted. So I can see you coming a mile off, but it gets fuzzy when I read. My choice for them was simply cos they made me look gooood. Without make-up. And with the alternative choice of those thin wiry frames, or those frames free ones where the lens sort of sit there in the middle of your face.. hmm. My nose is not covered in blocked pores. I have clear gorgeous skin. If you broke them, I wouldn't howl. I'd probably reclaim on insurance. Besides which, you over estimate indie kids. They wouldn't threaten to kick your ass. They would grab you and give you a chinese burn. And whats wrong with masturbating? 'course we do it. When we do it, we do it good. (I might be speaking for myself here though.) >>3) Indie kids are at it like rabbits. Or want to be. Scratch any 'community' or 'scene' of indie kids and you will find a seething cauldron of sexual frustration and backstabbing. Most indie kids are vile to look upon: I think this because I am enslaved by societal standards of beauty. At it like rabbits? Yes. Ugly? No, both me and my boyfriend are the most gorgeous creatures to behold. We're well fit. ;) We wouldn't be shagging each other if we weren't such a pair of totally sexy beasts. >>4) Societal standards of anything are bad, pretty much. Unless it gets you a shag. Or earns you - or more likely your parents - the vast amount of money needed to get through college on some no-mark computer games degree AND buy a billion useless identical records. I'm lost here. Wish I had a billion records. And what is societal?? Plus, I'm not doing a computer games degree. As my brother will happily tell you, its a Mickey Mouse course. >>5) On the rare occasions when an indie kid does get it on it at least distracts them from listening to indie music. Or making it. All indie kids are in indie bands. no, I'm not in an indie band. How about listening to indie music while you're at it like rabbits? you forgot that. Singles are good if its a quickie, a nice long album for well, a long one. If you catch my drift. 6) Indie is short for independent, because indie kids are not mainstream. No sir. They are individuals. A quick look at an indie kid website will reassure you of that. Define mainstream. Nice little quote here from somewhere or other in Norway "We are all born originals, but die as copies." >>7) All indie kids are unique. They are however looking for other indie kids who are unique in exactly the same way as them - cool, huh? Yup, I am unique. I agree. 8) Among the unique things about indie kids are their haircuts. The square mainstream observer might mistake the uniform dyed bobs and crops of indieland as the sinister hairstyles of a clone army hell-bent on taking over teenage america and making it listen to At The Drive-In. But such an observer would be a fool. There are crucial differences in the haircuts. Some are, like, really expensive. I dye my hair cos it looks shinier. Its a bob cos its growing out of its previous cut- psychopathic day-release girl. The hairdresser said it was funky. >>9) Some records are really expensive, too. You must really love the music to spend $200 on eBay on a one-sided seven-inch, right? It shows your dedication to music is for real and unique, like your taste. If I can get anything cheap, I do. If I can't, I don't bother. Or I copy it from somewhere. What is eBay? >>10) Indie fashions are individual and unique too, and are marked by the indie kid's strong sense of irony. For example, a lot of indie kids like wearing overalls and workshirts as worn by real live working class people. As the indie kid finishes a two-hour shift at Border's they feel solidarity with their working-class brothers and sisters in the bakeries and pizza delivery companies all across the nation. You reckon? I like H+M to be honest. I have never worked in Borders. 11) They don't feel solidarity with the suits working in offices, though. Those people are a plastic fake herd of manufactured, soulless brainwashed lemming robot drone sheep enslaved to mass culture pap. (This is true, obviously. But sorry, indie kids are worse.) Sometimes you can meet "indie kids" in offices too. Scary, but true. 12) Not all mass culture is pap, though. Hey! What about those cool Powerpuff Girls? Oh come on! They are cool! Don't even go there! Now you've really really crossed the line. (you also forgot Cow and Chicken though.) 13) Infantilism is endemic to the indie kids. When was the last time you heard one of them use the word 'man' or 'woman'. Nope, it's always 'boys' and 'girls'. Some girls are 'cute'. Some boys are 'cute' too. The more incurable indie kids use the words 'grrrl' and - shudder - 'boi', for all the world as if they were living in a Disneyworld 1994 Experience ride or fell into a copy of Sassy once and never escaped. What is Sassy? 14) When indie kids pair off with a cute grrrl or boi (all indie kids are in theory bisexual, of course. Just don't ask them to do anything about it.) they tend to treat each other like shit and then write it up on their web pages ("I am SUCH the geek"). This is because they are very sensitive, not as the casual observer might have guessed because they are emotional dwarves with no concept of human interaction outside a fanzine problem page. You become sensitive by listening to Belle And Sebastian a lot. How does one "become" an emotion? I never became anything. I stayed me the whole way through. >>15) All their records sound the same, due to influence inbreeding. The gene pool of influences on indie rock has been shrinking steadily since 1977, thanks to paranoid scenester tastemaking. The constant slathering praise directed at the likes of the Get Up Kids and Sleater-Kinney is the critical equivalent of a one-eyed chinless inbred mutant winning a beauty contest. I don't think all my records sound the same. 16) Indie kids like experimentation, but not too much experimentation. They like extremity, but not too much extremity. They like songs, but they like them to be a bit shy and fuzzed-up and nervous and not too songish. Best of all they like bands which sound comfortingly like the other ones they already know are cool. I disagree. Sometimes that is the very reason that an indie kid will hate a band. Cos they sound too much like a band they like. >>17) Of course they listen to other stuff too, carefully weighing it up for its purity of motive and general indie-ness. Other genres are assessed with a practised eye, and only the records which have the most spiritual kinship to indie are acceptable - no attempt is made to take these musics on their own terms, since indie is in any case superior. Eventually a fashionably anti-PC stance allows the indie kid to reject even bothering with hip-hop or dance records - that would after all be 'tokenism'. What about drum'n'bass? I mean, I know it sort of surged up a few years ago, then got sent back under for being too "mainstream" whatever you say, dance kids are just as capable of looking to the underground. Well, at least those I know, and they sneer at the mainstream stuff. Cos thats what indie kids-trying to be dance kids-listen to. >>18) The worst thing about indie kids is how apalling they are at even being indie kids. After idling their college years going to 'shows' every other day and then spending two years in retail working on a screenplay or writing a novel about following a band or recording a thousand tinny songs on a hundred cheap cassettes and giving them to people they fancy in the hope that a rare Braid EP track might get them a quick fuck on some other indie kid's sofa and pretending to like the Spice Girls and pretending to like the Magnetic Fields and pretending to like each other - after all that they suddenly get a job and start listening to Moby and Aimee Mann. What I ask you is the fucking point? Hmm. The fucking point? You're sentences are too long. Shorten them. A bit of punctuation would make the point indeed, easier to understand. You're rant would be more understandable, if I wasn't getting so lost in all your NME-style rants. By the time I got to the end of the sentences, I didn't know what it had started out like. Reminds me of the days when I started reading Vox, Select and Melody Maker. Back then, when that whole shoe-gazer indie was coming out. In order to sound, well, you know, cool, or whatever, the writers seemed to give up on the full-stop. It was a sort of pretend intelligence they had. If you understood what-on-earth they were going on about, you were a liar. If you didn't, then, ha ha, you weren't fit to read whatever it was. Now I'm even more uncertain to whether I am or am not an indie kid. Any suggestions? Answers on a postcard please to the usual e-mail. Cheers, Idles. ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke we're all smoking our corduroys in our secret little b+s club- what are you doing?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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Sinister: Struan's rectal challenge.
by David Howie 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Re subject line: I see the stealth spelling error software is working again. Well, there he was all wee and strong with his scruffy hair and grey shirt. Smiling. Waving people to "come in, have a seat, if you can find one." Wee Struan. And there was Geddes, bowl cut and green jacket intact. The nominator, Daniel Quipp, was handing out iced doughnuts from Safeway with B&S badges on the packets. (Where did he get such a surplus of blimmin' badges?) Quick introduction from Messr Quipp (Struan needs an intro?) and Murdoch was off, talking about policies and third world hunger and the national debt and 50m pools out at the Garscube complex in Glasgow. Na not really, well not the policies and third world hunger bit. What exactly did he say (for a measely half an hour sans hecklers)? What does Stuart Murdoch have to offer the students as rector in light of the fact that he has dropped out of Uni 3 times? "Empathy. I came to Uni in 1985 (matric no: 854440) up to the big city and got lost in it and basically didn't do any work. I don't know how student's manage it nowadays and I really admire them that stick in and get a degree as it is so hard now. You have to get a part-time job you have no benefits, no grants etc. Then there's making friends. I didn't have a proper friend a Uni till [squints] erm, third year. Err, I didn't even get to third year... I didn't even have a proper friend at uni. So basically understanding and empathy." Will you be in and around the university much? "Well, I live just down the road and I normally start my day off in the Grosvenor cafe so it won't trouble me any more to stroll another quarter of a mile to the rector's office. The band [do extensive touring and lots of sponsoring/leg-work and we're always in the studio - oops sorry. He really said] The band are going to be a bit more busy this year [hinting at a tour, definitely] but when we go away on tour its for no more than 2 weeks at a time. So I can't foresee any problems with my attendance. Anyway, I love using the QM laundry. I don't have a washing machine in my house, so I use the QM laundry sometimes. Being rector will mean that I don't get the usual funny looks whilst doing my washing. Incidentally, they've got some great irons in there [he did actually say this]." At which point someone asked, in a very quiet voice: "I thought that the last rector was basically a bag of shit, will you be any better?" Struan: "Sorry, I couldn't hear you. I could have sworn that you said that you thought 'the last record was a bag of shit'. Well, our bassist left the band, we had problems in the studio etc." Voice: "Na, I thought it was alright actually". Struan: :) There were lots of stupid questions asked with hardly coherent or cogent asnwers so I've edited them out. I've just provided a para-phrased edited highlights, really. Do I get my Juniour Reporter's Badge now Honey? Please? David Howie. :) PS Oops, sorry. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Struan's rectal challenge.
by Katy Dutton 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Re subject line: I see the stealth spelling error software is working again. Well, there he was all wee and strong with his scruffy hair and grey shirt. Smiling. Waving people to "come in, have a seat, if you can find one." Wee Struan. And there was Geddes, bowl cut and green jacket intact. The nominator, Daniel Quipp, was handing out iced doughnuts from Safeway with B&S badges on the packets. (Where did he get such a surplus of blimmin' badges?) Quick introduction from Messr Quipp (Struan needs an intro?) and Murdoch was off, talking about policies and third world hunger and the national debt and 50m pools out at the Garscube complex in Glasgow. Na not really, well not the policies and third world hunger bit. What exactly did he say (for a measely half an hour sans hecklers)? What does Stuart Murdoch have to offer the students as rector in light of the fact that he has dropped out of Uni 3 times? "Empathy. I came to Uni in 1985 (matric no: 854440) up to the big city and got lost in it and basically didn't do any work. I don't know how student's manage it nowadays and I really admire them that stick in and get a degree as it is so hard now. You have to get a part-time job you have no benefits, no grants etc. Then there's making friends. I didn't have a proper friend a Uni till [squints] erm, third year. Err, I didn't even get to third year... I didn't even have a proper friend at uni. So basically understanding and empathy." Will you be in and around the university much? "Well, I live just down the road and I normally start my day off in the Grosvenor cafe so it won't trouble me any more to stroll another quarter of a mile to the rector's office. The band [do extensive touring and lots of sponsoring/leg-work and we're always in the studio - oops sorry. He really said] The band are going to be a bit more busy this year [hinting at a tour, definitely] but when we go away on tour its for no more than 2 weeks at a time. So I can't foresee any problems with my attendance. Anyway, I love using the QM laundry. I don't have a washing machine in my house, so I use the QM laundry sometimes. Being rector will mean that I don't get the usual funny looks whilst doing my washing. Incidentally, they've got some great irons in there [he did actually say this]." At which point someone asked, in a very quiet voice: "I thought that the last rector was basically a bag of shit, will you be any better?" Struan: "Sorry, I couldn't hear you. I could have sworn that you said that you thought 'the last record was a bag of shit'. Well, our bassist left the band, we had problems in the studio etc." Voice: "Na, I thought it was alright actually". Struan: :) There were lots of stupid questions asked with hardly coherent or cogent asnwers so I've edited them out. I've just provided a para-phrased edited highlights, really. Do I get my Juniour Reporter's Badge now Honey? Please? David Howie. :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Emerging from the nursery
by tmalone3＠uswest.net 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Well, I've been out of the nursery for quite some time now, but I've been rather busy as of late. School, work, friends, family, etc... But, I've decided that I have waited long enough and must now make my presence known. To start with, I'm from the states (the United ones), specifically, the beautiful city of Seattle. The home of such things as Nirvana, Microsoft, and Amazon.com. I go to the University of Washington where I'm currently studying nothing in particular. Great fun to have no idea what you'll do with your life. I have a horrid little job at a local grocery store. It really isn't that bad, but today has been rather awful. Today they were playing some of Amy Grant's greatest contemporary Christian hits. There really is nothing quite like Christian pop music. I wish they'd play some B&S, or maybe some My Bloody Valentine, Valentine's day is coming up soon after all. I was reminded of this fact the other day when I saw the sweetest, cutest couple walking down the street. He was wearing all black (leather), and so was she, but she had a collar with a chain attached to it that he was holding. It made me wish I had someone that special in my life. It also gave me a great idea for a line of valentine's day cards, S&M cards. With content such as, "I want to dominate you this Valentine's day", "Shut up and bark valentine", and the timeless, "I wanna whip you into submission Valentine". Anyway, I'll go back to listening to "69 Love Songs" and waiting for my current obsession to email me. Thanks for indulging me. Also, does anybody know if Stuart David's "Peacock Manifesto" will be released in the states? -- Tim Malone "Mmmm, tastes like somebody loves you!" -seen on a package of pudding. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: nyc band needs drummer
by space girl 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

hey everyone, it's been a while since i've posted, but i thought this would be just the place because everyone here obviously likes music. like the subject line says, my band is looking for a drummer in the nyc area, so.....if anyone plays the drums and lives around here, please please email me. thanks a lot. -spacegirl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: tangents are missed
by keith mclachlan 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

i think that everyone(mick and pf penned the only missives i read) is missing the point when it comes to the belle and sebastian v. magnetic fields piece on tangents. tangents is the most wonderful site on the web and in my eyes can do no wrong and this is because it is a fanzine, highly sophisticated and literate but still filled mainly with highly emotional thoughts of passionate fans. mick attacked it as a critical piece with arguments against its logic but alistair was once likely as big or bigger a fan of b&s as anyone here has been, for me what he succeeds in is explaining his feelings instead of dictating his "truths" as is often done on "objective" sites. AT happens to be obsessed with stephin merrit at the moment, this is the point of the article and surely not to diminish belle and sebastian for anyone else. i think i might share a lot of his opinions on pop democracy but maybe i think , currently, that i harbour stronger feelings for belle and sebastian than he does. i email alistair and thank him for his website and beg him to write the article about rodney allen he once hinted about and truly if there were more people like him i would be so much happier. keith m __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Poco Merritt-o
by Jordi Trenzano 08 Feb '01

08 Feb '01

Hello, kiddies. Posting from home instead of doing it from uni. Good. Cause I have a pc-dictionary to check. Dictionaries are useful. Dictionaries are cool. I want to ask Stuart to write a song about dictionaries, I just donŽt know how. Well, I can always ask Mr.Stephin Merritt instead. I just donŽt understand all the madness about "69 love songs". IŽve been listening to it since last summer, and itŽs a combination of 5-10 great songs + 20/25 good ones and the rest are just jokes. And a bit elitist indeed. I just want to ask: if Stuart wrote a song about Ferdinand de Sausurre, wouldnŽt we have all those "critics" quoting Stuart as an elitist and blah, blah.......The DukeŽs article just reflects this state of opinion of "oh, B&S are too popular for me now". I saw some vinyls of Funkadelic yesterday on a local record shop. Can anyone point me the names of some of their best albums ??? IŽm becoming black, me and also Rosseta, my dear cat. IŽm not painting her, donŽt worry ;) I didnŽt buy any record of mr.Clinton band, but I got a 3 vinyl "the best of Smokey Robinson" for....errr.....a bit more than 7 Uk pounds. With "As seen on TV" printed on it. ItŽs cool indeed. IŽll say bye while listening to those grate literates that are Godspeed you black emperor! Love and dictionaries Jordiet Sinistre ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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