March 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: "Too Much Love" live ....
by Andrew CHurchman 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

hi everyone, I was just wondering if the lucky people who attended the B+S Uni gig yesterday could answer me this little question... When they played "Too Much Love" did Stuart play guitar or piano??? It may sound silly but it's an important question for me. OK, thanks for your help. --- andrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You're all so nice.
by David Howie 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Why is my heart so heavy, lumpen and wrought with a keen sense of mis-direction? It's heaving through the emotions today, limping from beat to beat. The responsive and constructive comments from Sinisterines are the only things which have allowed a smile to creep wearily onto my lips today. This e-mail may get pretty self-indulgent; but, I thought I lay myself open to the floor. The way I REALLY feel, right now. Put the B&S madness to one side for right now, and let me exhaust my tired vocabulary. I think it's my course, or the people on my course, or the University, or people at the University. A feeling of perpetual disillusionment (sic) and disgust at my peers pervades my outlook (unhealthily I may add) at all times. I feel more comfortable drifting between pixels, placing words in dysfunctional positions and coaxing awkward rhymes into place than I do discoursing with the world. This may sound thoroughly pretentious; "I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times". That's the way I used to think. Ha. However, I feel I should introduce the caveat: I don't think I'm better (not at all) merely different. But 'different', ah mean, c'moan Howie. Calling yrsel' 'different' is just as pretentious as making the sweeping assertion that you're better. Well, a tentative yes to that question is smashed by an affirmative no. Calling yourself different is not pretentious; it's tantamount to saying "I breathe air". It's a statement of fact; intrinsic in our nature, we are different. (I know this is a spurious argument; but it defeats the claim that calling yourself different is pretentious). I don't want to veer into pseudo-philosophy, I'm merely stating the way I feel. I don't know why: maybe in attempt to get people to like me. Destined to fail in such a humble ambition: the crux of the matter is that all I want is to be liked. Sad? Yeh, I am. I came to University with open eyes slightly jaded but forgiving to sunlight. However, I look around. I see no-one. I don't even see myself. The University is diseased by a Culture of Averageness (woah there, says the arrogance-o-meter) which pervades throughout spoiling the 'good apples'. Note to reader: Howie is not claiming to be a 'good apple'. I know how much this movement of thought, lately manifest in my misguided (misplaced?) misanthropy, pains my girlfriend. I love her; but, I'm at odds with myself. Irreconcilabe differences with myself; inability to achieve the completeness of form and style that I yearn for irks and sits uncomfortably, resulting in me thinking that I'm a rubbish person and boyfriend. And that my girlfriend doesn't deserve to be with me: 'cos she's such a good person. (And she's going through a lot of shit right now with her flatmates - but, my selfishness and manipulation are contributing to her discomfort.) I can see I'm doing it - yet, she refuses; but, I can see it. Stop it then. Just stop being silly. Stop making arguments from nothing. BUt it's like that Delgados line we make "complications, just to feel all right". But y'see. I don't feel all right. I feel like shit. Always. I don't like it. I've regressed to when I was 13. I can see you sitting there and your thinking "What am I meant to say to this. I'm not really sure what he's saying." I guess I'm essentially saying that my heart hurts but I don't know how to fix it. The only words of solace I have are some lyrics I wrote last year, for my girlfriend: "In my head, I'm kissing you all ways, While in my heart, I'm missing you always." Reverberating. A sullen line. And I'm sorry. Sorry for wasting your time. Absolutely no content. Sorry for everything. Sorry Honey. Sorry. Sorry, David. PS I didn't mean to 'go off on one' I just did. Tell me if you mind; and, I won't do it again. Thank you. PPS Thank you, Jason A. Thank YOU. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: To Lucy Alder (and the rest of you who've showed an interest), thank you.
by David Howie 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I'm back with the intention of garnishing another post to Sinister with little tit-bits of information that I left out of yesterday's review. I'll structure this e-mail around Lucy's e-mail from earlier today. Lucy said: >>DID YOU TAKE A MINIDISC TO THE GIG? I didn't I'm afraid nor did anybody that I know who went to the gig. It was apparently a no cameras or recording equipment affair. Hmm. *Furrows brow*. >>And what about the new songs? Big John Shaft & Take Your Carriage Clock and Shove It. Hmm, I've said all I really want to about them in my previous mail. However, I do know/remember the lyrics to Big John Shaft and will try to have them up for the list by next week, if by consensus the list approves. >>Who did the whoo-whoos in Sympathy... by the way? That Messr Jackson. He got really into it; doing the whole flailing arms routine and compulsory Mick woo-hoos. His guitar playing reached new heights; and, I contend that he should be inducted into the highest echelon of guitarists. Well, err, mebbe. >>And did Isobel have a big pair of maracas? Not that I'm aware of, but... During the intro to The Wrong Girl (where the kind of bell-y sound rings through the guitar driven lead music) she rattled a metal baton off of the metal leg on Geddes' Wurlitzer. Some effect, I'll tell you. :) I got talking to the band after the show. I don't know what the list thinks of asking for autographs but I'm a big child and thus felt compelled to do so. I got all of their autographs apart from the two wymmins'. Damn. Anyways, what they had to say: Stuart: Will the '...Middle Distance Runner' ever be released? Oh aye, definitely. Look out for it, it'll be out soon. Maybe as a b-side to the new singles. He had a big smile at this point so as to say 'Aww, your going to be so happy'. I'm sure the glint in his eye was a knowing look in deference to the fact that it is scheduled for a spring release as a b-side. But nothing's definite. However, he did say it's been about for a while now and it's about time they got it out. Oooh, Stu-art... Stevie: Can I have your autograph, please? *Coy* Eh, aye, sure. *Signs it* *Walking away* Y'know, nobody ever asks me that. My heart nearly broke there on the spot. His eyes lowered, saddened, the blinks echoing the murmured beat of a broken heart. Awww. Chris: I've met you quite a few times, what's your name? David. Here, have I no' signed things for you in the past. *Talking to girl beside him who hands him a phone number. Looks at it. Laughs.* Ha, 1690? Ah'm no phoning that. (I teehee). Richie: Err, aye, sure. Mick: really quiet didn't say much. But well, err, there you go. Make of that what you will. Thanks, David. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I'm your lucky clover
by Lucy Alder 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

David Howie's report of The Gig was gorgeous, wasn't it? As I read it I felt a strange tingling sensation in my tummy, then began to turn a very bright shade of green. Literally! The people sitting near my desk were very worried and wanted to call an ambulance, but I managed to convince them that this was not the sort of malady that needs hospitalisation, so they sent me to the sick room where I munched on ginger nuts (dunked in Earl Grey) and dossed for a couple of hours. So... DID YOU TAKE A MINIDISC TO THE GIG? C'mon, somebody must have captured that Stones moment for posterity. And what about the new songs? Nick needs to make a start on transcibing the lyrics, you know. Who did the whoo-whoos in Sympathy... by the way? And did Isobel have a big pair of maracas? I had a weird dream last night. I went to a seventies rock festival with David Moore, who lent me a load of seventies clothes for the occasion: denim flares, a crocheted waistcoat and a nice tan leather belt with tasselly bits on. I was sitting on the grass, soaking up the sunshine when I noticed Liam Gallagher was nearby and he was giving me the eye and then the seventies rock guitarist on the stage winked at me. Then my alarm went off, which is a shame because I'd love to know what was going to happen next (or maybe not, if it involved Mr Gallagher). However, upon awakening, I could still hear the seventies rock song the band on the stage had been performing - it included the line "sit on the DJ". Anybody got a dream dictionary? *Little bit of content* I don't think anybody has mentioned this yet and I keep on forgetting to. A couple of weeks ago I had a read of Little Ink Movies and I realised that one of the famous people they nearly (but not quite) got to meet in New York is Hal Hartley. I love Kindercore and Elephant 6 bands. They make me go all grinny. Juicy Lucy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: who really wears terrycloth underwear?
by jeffrey wachs 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Its a strange thing to find oneself addicted. Ive been addicted many times before to many different things (well, maybe not to so many things unless you count people), but only once before to a band. Now that Im back in the land of the musically obsessed, I remember how much I loved mentally mixing the songs by the band of my favor (really makes no different who it wasa different music, a different life) to create a seamless soundtrack to my daily doings. My name is Jeffrey and this is my first post. I first heard the band we all love on a jukebox in a bar that doesnt exist anymore in San Francisco. I had read a review of Boy with the Arab Strap in Rolling Stone and decided to have a go at it when I was choosing my pinball-playing music I remember enjoying the song I played a great deal. I think I might have chosen Brilliant Career, though it could as well have been Is It Wicked I was distracted because I was excited about the girl I was dating and was telling my friends all about her. After I left the bar, I didnt really go back to the band for almost two years Then came Napster. I know that opinions amongst this community range across the spectrum, so please do not take the previous sentence as any sort of incitement to launch into another drag-out on the merits and evils of Napster. I merely mean that when I remembered the bands name (likely after watching High Fidelity for the umpteenth time), I was able to take their music for a test drive. That was in November, before Thanksgiving. That was when I started to fall for them in a meaningful way. The song was My Wandering Days Are Over, which I had picked off the list simply because it sounded like it would match my mood of late, which is to say gently happy and slightly melancholy at the same timeI believe winsome might be appropriate. As I contemplated the inevitable arrival of my mid-late-20s (currently I am only in my mid-mid-20s), the song seemed to invigorate and comfort me at the same time; I could wrap myself in it and still have room to dance. But even more than that, I felt like I had finally found a band that wasnt afraid to sound pretty. I bought Tigermilk the day after ThanksgivingBut it was a bit before dawn on New Years Day, standing alone on the fire escape, headphones on, smoking a cigarette to warm myself from the inside that I recognized that what I was feeling for the music pumping into my head was nothing short of love. And a love for the music almost by matter of logic (I say almost, as I am sure that some of you would deign to challenge my logichave at it, youll get no rejoinder from me) implies a love of the band. No, I dont love all songs equally but I can forgive the deficient ones. Even laugh at them. Theres a whole album to listen to I dont know why I would possibly expect any of you to care about any of this, other than I expectif my wordsmithing in this effort was halfway successful to keep you interestedthat some of you can relate to my experience. Since I dont foresee a west coast concert engagement anytime soon (though I have pledged to fly anywhere in these United States to see them should they be so kind as to even step foot inside them), I guess I am hoping that some of you might say hello and introduce yourselves to me you see, Im rather shy. And perhaps even a tad lonely And if any of you happen to live in San Francisco well, by all means please say hello. Thanks for reading this far and I suppose Ill see you on the playground. jeffrey  <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p></DIV></html> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: up to my knees in snow.. and an ATP ticket
by Giita . 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Two weeks ago I was visiting Scotland and it was lovely. I wish I had been there when the B&S gig was on. But hey, if they are playing soon again I'll try and go since I'm back in Dublin. It's snowy and cold here. I was stuck in the mountains at my boyfriends house for two days. We had snow up to our knees and had a snowfight. :) To keep ourselves warm we lit a fire with logs that were in the garden. Now I'm back in the city and it's colder than it is in Iceland. I have a friend who lives in Edinburgh. Her name is Liv Anna and is half English and half Icelandic. She needs a ticket to go to All Tomorrow's Parties. Does anyone here have an extra ticket to fill a chalet? If so you can e-mail her at: livanna99(a)hotmail.com or reply to me at: giita(a)hotmail.com Thank you very much! XXXX Giita Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: woo-woo woo-woo
by Hewitt, Stephen 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Thank you David for your review of the gig, I'm now seriously desparate to see them (OK so i have at least seen them once which i realise is more than a lot of you). giggiggiggig!G!I!G! *carsmile bounces up and down in anticipation and i suppose not being rector will give him more time to think about gigs and stuff Mark H said: And how did Carsmile get near the front when he was way behind us in the queue? Does he have a gigteleport? I wish i did, it could be rather handy, although a bar teleport would be even handier. In this case however I merely walked down the side of the venue past the studeys sitting on the floor, knowing that there would be little, if any, moshing at a strap gig. As i have always suspected, drunkenness can only add to the enjoyment of the strap, of the four strap virgins we took with us, the only one who enjoyed it was the one who could hardly walk before she got there... Moore snr listed the Captain Peacock dates, which i've unfortunately deleted, but Oxford is THE FIRST of them, so all you early adopters should come along. My mate Pete's organising it and he's meant to be sending me some stuff (press release etc) about it which i'll forward if it's any cop. I just hope peacock realises he can't be effing and jeffing in Borders, right next to the kiddy books. It's my second sini-birfday this week, aw big hug. xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Suzy Salt and Percy Pepper in electoral scandal
by vodkabird＠gurlmail.com 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hullo, So Mr Murdoch didn't get his little part-time job? I have to say that this rectoral palava must be a Scottish thing as I never experienced anything along these lines when I was a stoodent all those many, many years ago. The nearest that Bradford Uni experienced was a petition to change the name of one of our SU bars from the 'Steve Biko bar' to the 'Bob Holness bar'. I didn't sign it, it wouldn't have been right. And anyway, I never liked Blockbusters. So think yourselves lucky; the only cult figure around these days appears to be Ainsley Harriott. It could have been worse. Love you all VB xx Being a Rebel's Fine at: http://www.angelfire.com/ia/trustnoone ________________________________________________________________________ --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com!! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my first post?
by Stevemalkmusruls＠aol.com 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

hey kids thats dandy they played in Scotland but I am from the states! so if anyone has any clue if they ar going to play the states (From NYC to Boston MASS) please tell me! Well I don't know what to say, I am nineteen and been listening to B and S for three or four years now. I'll write a better post next time. later rach +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Bad, but inevitable, news from Glasgow...
by David Howie 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Reported today on the Glasgow University website: "Greg Hemphill is new Rector TV comedian Greg Hemphill has been elected the 118th Rector of the University of Glasgow in a four-sided contest in which 2,204 students voted. The vote was as follows: Candidate:1st count: 2nd count: result KAREN DUNBAR: 135 : - : - ALASDAIR GRAY : 805 : 837 : 1026 GREG HEMPHILL : 938 : 1008 : 1127 STUART MURDOCH :323 : 347 : - Voting was by the Single Transferable Vote conducted by successive rounds of counting. After each count the candidate with the lowest vote drops out and their votes are distributed by second and subsequent preferences until one candidate is the overall winner. Some voters do not express the full number of preferences. There were 3 spoilt papers. All twenty thousand matriculated students were entitled to vote. The turnout was 11% The new Rector will be installed at a ceremony in the Spring at a date to be arranged by the SRC. He holds office with immediate effect for 3 years." Greg-effin-Hemphill, talk about lowest common denominator politics. Poor Alasdair. That's ruined my day. *Wistfully* Greg-effin-Hemphill? It's a sad, sad day for student politics. "But the Rector is not a political position!" Aye, ah know. But Greg Hemphill, ah mean c'moan. Anyways, the rector may not be political but he is politicised, but that's another debate... Disillusioned, David. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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