August 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: LEICESTER PEOPLE support your county with pride at this weekend's picnic
by DansonHatcher＠aol.com 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

all = "Where is the beer?!?!?" james = "I know there has to be some more in this fridge" drunken sitting room inhabitant's = "look behind the cottage cheese,ha ha ha" james walk's/stumble's back into sitting room from kitchen to find lot's of pissed people lining the carpet fast asleep or doing first class impression's of sleeping And so I find my self here... Well I could tell you all about my mother's latest shopping craze,cottage cheese. but apart fromthere being alot of it and mum's sudden reallisation that she's probbably breaking several law's due to the amount of "traditional sandwich filler" she's accumulated there's not much else to say. This evening has been quite enterbtaining though and the indieism conversation has now escaped the confine's of the computor and into my house.(look there it is! quick pass me a suitable container to trap the little bastard and I'll chuck it out the window) We,in our infinate wisdom have come to the somewhat obvious yet seemingly over looked point of...."surely the clothes are a way of showing who you are and what you like in the same way as football fan's wear a team strip". Take the B&S T shirt-talk for instance. People were saying lot's of good thing's about them,like people would come up and talk to them and all of a sudden they have a new friend (hey,it happened to me. hello Steve if you're on yet) So let's just talk about something else now shall we 'cos otherwise it'll turn into somesort of "where do we come from" type arguement and there'll just be lot's of lost/screwed up people wondering who they truly are and the world has enough people like that already so just dress as you like and be your own person (man!..peace...love) if you've read this FAR you're an absolute STAR. Jams. And so end's James' second alcohol fueled post. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: To anybody willing to
by Brian Svendsen 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

To anybody willing to classify themselves or anyone else in terms of "coolness" and what "scene" is it , that they are part of. Get over yourself. "Indie" is a word. Thats all it is,It is no more then a marketing scheme to appeal to a certain cross section of society just as Limp Bizkit is . Any one claiming to be "indie" is the farthest thing of their definition of it. As most people, certain things appeal to me, I dress a certain way and listen to certain music. I listen because I like it, plain and simple and I dress good because after all , how many girls would I get if I dressed like a dirtbag. I work at a huge corporation too , ....so I can eat, pay rent and enjoy myself. everybody its time to get off your soap boxes. and just except everybody for what they are, people. simple as that. ....you'll always have people that you think are really alright..but like any cross section of society theres goin to be assholes... no matter if they are dressed all "indie", like a "thug" or "corprate america", they will simply just be a bunch assholes... anyway, your all still alright in my book. brian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: five out of five and a freebie
by idleberry 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

hello darlings, well, I've nearly finished my stint as a worker. The past week and a half I've been working for an estate agents (ie. crooks) and being on the receiving end of a lot of grief. It makes you switch off after a bit, and go all apathetic. Thank goodness for lunchbreaks. Whole load of stuff for you. Hello to all the sinners I saw at the Tom Paulin gig at Nice N Sleazy on Saturday. You know who you are, t'was good to see thee there. For those who didn't know, it was a fantastic gig, and I have romantic non-sexual feelings towards the smouldering foxy sex kitten who plays violin for Saloon. Also playing were bunica, and the wonderous Great Lakes. Totally and heavenly recommended. Seriously, kids, think about it next time you're browsing the record shops with your pocket money burning a hole in your neat little crocheted purses and your embroidered wallets. Thats first of all. Second of all, got second issue of fanzine Point of Isolation sorted. Will be on sale from oooh.. Thursday. It will possibly be possible to stalk me at the 13th note cafe on Thursday evening. So go and do your research, check out my site, and then hunt me down. But please, lets leave the Eastenders kidnapping roleplay for the bedroom, huh? ( http://www.geocities.com/idleberry ) Whats in the zine? urrr.. a big long review of B+S. and loads of other stuff that might tickle your pickle. Pleasingly, its fatter than the last issue. Big is beautiful. Appendix out, sennen, Sputniks Down, Bilyy Mahonie, Motorhead, and a whole bunch of Scots bands who are up and rising thru the ranks of giggin'. Thats the second bit. Third bit. Has anyone else noticed that summers almost shut down up in Scotland? Its making me sad. I feel all lonesome, I want the summer to continue, cos otherwise I'll have to face up to the fact that I'm not going back to uni again. fourth bit: I've not had much time to check e mails,what with, havin' a job. But thursday is my sort of "I don't have a job today" day, so I'll be able to sort out aspects of my life that are on hold. fifth bit: I love my guitars again. We're getting along well again. And thats all the bits I have for your digestion. Love, hugs and air biskits, idles. xxxxxxx ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fw: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool are shite
by Peter Carter 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Carter" <p.carter(a)bathspa.ac.uk> To: "Something Sinister" <something_sinister(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Fw: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool are shite > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Carter" <p.carter(a)bathspa.ac.uk> > To: "jarkko frantila" <chamomile1(a)hotmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:44 PM > Subject: People who say they aren't indie when they really are to be cool > are shite > > > > In answer to Miss JF's comments... > > > There, I've said it. There's been some talk about indie do's and dont's, > > and > > > I thought I'd contribute something to the list. > > > > > > All genres of music have their very own cliques. They think they are > > better > > > than other people. But lately I've started to think that indie hipsters > > are > > > maybe the worst of them all. Hand on your heart; Look into the mirror > and > > > say: "I do not sneer at people who dress like everyone else does." Were > > you > > > able to do that? Were you honest? Could you ever go out with someone who > > > doesn't have the right hairdo, the right clothes, the right albums in > > > his/her cd- collection? > > > > > > Most indiehipsters (well, maybe I could say "us", but more about that > > later) > > > aren't actually bad people in such, just... closeminded. There's some > > > hipsters who are truly evil in their heart (hello), but there's rotten > and > > > deceptive people everywhere in the world. But not being able to > understand > > > that there can be people who don't really give a rat's ass about 7- inch > > > singles, that's just... Example: If I should say here that i really > don't > > > care much about gay people, what would your reaction be? Anger? Think > > about > > > it: That's what the worst indiehipsters do. They don't care much about > > those > > > people who are into that "crappy, mainstream music", do they? > > > > Wooh there! You're saying that stating you don't care for gay people is > like > > stating that you don't like people into mainstream? > > > > Although I get your point, there are a couple of pretty glaring flaws in > > that statement > > > > 1. Do you think people choose to become gay? Do you really think it's a > > lifestyle choice in the same way as your listening habbits are? > > 2. Like it or not, with cliques come behaviour pattens. People who choose > to > > dress and certain way, or listen to a certain kind of music tend to share > > common traits. This is the essence of cliquedom, and why, if you actually > > dig a bit deeper than the obvious, they are neccesary. Now, a guy walking > > down the street with a shaved head, a tattoo saying 'Fuck the police' and > > wearing a Limp Bizkit t-shirt may be the nicest in the world, but would > you > > walk up to him and say hello? Would you expect a kid wearing a B&S t-shirt > > to be into violence? I didn't think so. Now, I'm not saying these > > stereotypes always hold water, but people who choose cliques often do so > > because they fit their mindset, and hence there is always an overlap > between > > stereotype and the real world. > > > > > As I write this, wearing faded, darkblue jeans, old Converse sneakers > and > > a > > > B&S- t-shirt, I know I look like an indiekid (sic). But I don't think my > > > clothes or my cd-collection makes me somehow better than other people. > > Some > > > people seem to think that wearing cardigans straight from the 70's is > like > > a > > > secret handshake between indiers (nice word!). No, that's just the image > > of > > > yourself you give out to people. In my case, I just like the way they > look > > > on me. If someone feels like s/he knows me just because I wear the same > > > clothes s/he does, two words for them: piss off. > > > > They could have an idea about you though. Don't you choose the clothes you > > wear in order to reflect how you feel, and the values you relate to? > > Personally I've never worn flares or a duffel coat in my life, and I never > > will, but the doesn't mean I wouldn't recognise that I might have more in > > common with someone who did... > > > > > I am not a better person because I listen to music that doesn't sell > well. > > > > It's more about being choosy about music, rather about not excepting > > anything with easy hooks that the media tell people to like. I don't think > > most people really think about their music at all. Having said that, my > best > > friend at University listens to Eminem and even bought a Limp Bizkit > single, > > but I respect her taste more than a lot of 'indie' people because I don't > > actually think she's had it forced on her by anyone. > > > > > I am not a better person because I wear these clothes. > > > > > > I am not better because I have this hair. > > > > > > I am not a better person than people who aren't a part of this list. > > > > agreed. > > > > Peter > > > > p.s. There seems to be a disturbing number of 'indie' people claiming they > > like one, and only one, bad pop band in order to prove they aren't > > pretentious. These people are almost always the most pretentious. > > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: manchester picnic/meet-up affair?
by zorba＠redbricks.org.uk 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

i notice there are often picnics in york, london, various parts of america . . . why not in manchester? are there any other sinister pople out there around manchester, or am i the only one? would anyone out there like to do a meet up? either reply to me, or maybe on the list as a whole so other people can see it . . . ? antony +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: important "indie" rantings
by Red Geisha 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Hmmm, What kind of people are you people meeting? I've always found this woe is me attitude an excuse to avoid meeting and introducing yourself to other people. Your mantra seems to be - I will become a paranoid insular freak before I put myself on the line and try and break through the impenetrable stuffy attitude of the "other indie hipsters". What type of mantra is this? Are you growing as an individual or an introvert? These types of e-mail are based on fear more so than one-dimensional prototype indie-kids. We would all like to believe that all those people who appear cooler and cliquey are, but I bet you any money those people get their hearts broken and their feelings stamped on and are haunted by as many insecurities as you. I was thrust into the same clique mentality not by myself but by sniveling losers who had more time to mope around and pick out other people than work on their own insecurities. You people complaining seem to have a lot of cyber courage why not exercise it on the outside world. If you don't want these people as your friends and have already pasted pre-conceived one-dimension personalities on these "indie cliques" then why are you bothering to worry about them? Obviously you don't respect their lifestyle and musical ethics and as such it would be easier to ignore what doesn't appeal to you rather than rambling on in a quasi good vs. evil fashion. As for a lack of diversity, where do you live? And by what measure are we speaking of diversity, as in race? Let's face it indie music has very little monetary power and therefore very little exposure, it has a cult following. Every heard of payola? It sort of runs the music industry. The indie surge of 93-96 is long past us and few indie bands are garnering any type of press outside of Europe and Japan. You have to respect that it takes a little more work as a musical aficionado to uncover indie music. This does not mean it is better and I know many people on this list are burning cd's for their peers who aren't in the "indie" know trying to expose some of this beautiful music. These type of protective e-mails startle me. You have made a firm decision to not include yourself in a sub-culture which is fine but why is it anyone's responsibility to explain that which you don't respect? Scenes are fascinating in their social and psychological dynamics. I have never ever not spoken to someone based on their clothing or clean hair, I myself prefer new clothing and clean hair. My scene is made up of glam, punk, rockabilly, mods, goths, rockers, brit-poppers, indie kids, fashionistas, jocks and college kids. There is no bizarre fascist allegiance with any of these people, that is purely the invention of someone who is extremely paranoid. Just because we like the same music doesn't mean we're always going to click as people but why are you taking that personally? A lot more goes into an individual then just the club they frequent, the clothes they wear and the music they collect. Of course there are people I don't get along with but it certainly hasn't been because they can't match my collection of 7"'s! What do you expect to find at indie rock shows exactly besides fans? You can't ship people from other sub-cultures in against their will...although it would be quite humorous. People who "party" aren't going to see Tahiti 80 live anymore than I'm going to run out and endure their scene, but at least I have tried. Chris --Extraordinary how potent cheap music is-- ***Noel Coward*** >From: Thefoxxinthesnow(a)aol.com >Reply-To: Thefoxxinthesnow(a)aol.com >To: sinister(a)missprint.org >Subject: Sinister: important "indie" rantings >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:46:41 EDT > > >hello there. for quite some time i've been a lurker, but i feel now the >time >is more important than ever to write, not for any particular reason other >than to question the whole indie scene (thus encompassing an entire scary >subculture). > >don't get me wrong, i listen to indie music. but if you saw me you might >not >think it. i work at (gasp! a corporation) banana republic, and i like my >hair to look washed (because it is). i like to consider myself a purist; i >don't listen to belle to belong to some strange and snobbish subculture but >instead for the music, plain and simple. > >the indie-rock scene lacks diversity. go to any concert of any other genre >and you'll find some many "types" of people, people who have joined with a >similar love for music. go to an indie rock show and you'll only find >indie >rock people. so silly. people who will only talk to you if you look like >you >love the music (?!) > >based on my own experiences at indie rock concerts i can conclude that the >indie rock scene is pretentious, fake, and breeds snobby, judgmental >people. > the music of the indie rock scene is supposed to contain more beauty, to >have more meaning to the people who listen to it than fans of other types >of >non-indie music yet indie music fans can only turn and judge another person >on how vintage their clothing is.... >explain how that makes the indie music scene more mature and enlightened >than >any other. > >lauren >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: boo
by Kirsten Kenyon 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

whew, it has been a few days...nothing really interesting has been happening lately so i haven't had much to write about. a couple of incidents of minor interest: 1) i was forced to spend what would have been an enjoyable evening hiding from a scary boy attempting to psychoanalyze me and also attempting to invade my personal space over a pot of lilac tea. 2) last night i tasted something called flowery white picos. 3) everything else is even more boring than 1 and 2. we were talking about indie folk at work yesterday and started up about a place called atomic records, a shop down the street from my old house. they have a nice enough selection, but you have to be very very careful what you choose or you will be doomed to a lifetime of ugly atomic experiences. gina's boyfriend jon bought an ogre album there like four years ago and the boy who was working that day still won't talk to him, and he won't let him listen to albums in the store anymore. when jon asks to listen to something, he says, "no, we're not letting people do that today" and goes back to reading the onion or the shepherd express or something. the boy was nice to gina until she bought some sort of live dave matthews thing one day, and now he won't make eye contact. gina wanted to go to kinko's and make stickers that say "people who work at atomic are stupid assmunches" but she really does like one of the boys who works there and doesn't wish to offend him. the atomic staff have always been nice enough to me, but i think that can be contributed to one of three reasons: a) i have made wise purchases and gained approval b) i look enough like an authorized 'indie girl' to pass without intense scrutiny or c) i always look so terrified when i go in there that they feel sorry for me and decide to be nice. probably a bit of all three. i would probably buy an assmunch sticker, anyway. xoxo kirsten ps--my friends all laugh at me in my scarves and cardigans and also say things like "where the hell do you find this weirdass music, you weirdass?" Care2 make the world greener! http://www.care2.com - Get your Free e-mail account that helps save Wildlife! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: early morning adventures
by Kirsty 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Dearest sinister, This morning over breakfast of teas and hot toast dripping with honeysorry, I was reading The Daily Telegraph and came across this which you may (or may not) find interesting: Todd Solondz...drew fierce controversy three years ago for Happiness, a film featuring sympathetic if squirm inducing portrayals of a paedophile a stalker and a murderer. His new movie storytelling is split into two parts; the first 'fiction' is set in a creative writing class; the second 'non-fiction' follows a documentary-maker and the dysfunctional family he films. In both sections, characters are confronted with precisely the same criticisms Solondez has faced, suggesting that he may be weary of accusations of tastelessness, and has become more interested in mining the moral and artistic dilemmas inherent in this seam of drama. This new focus provides a welcome addition to the uncomfortable laughter of his trademark taboo-breaking comedy, but one must hope it does not lead him to lose the ability to confront truly dangerous subject matter. The most explosive issue in this movie -the sort of high-school gun massacre that devastated Columbine- is flagged up, but never deeply explored with the fearless gaze that Solondz brought to Happiness. Never the less with strong performances by John Goodman and Paul Giamatti, Storytelling is certainly a film to watch out for when it opens later this year. apologies for making you read all of that in the vain hope that B&S might get a mention but still I hope you all found it mighty interesting. B&S don't seem a touch shy about backing up crazy little films. One morning about a month ago I couldn't sleep. I ended up curled up in a chair watching The Open University on BBC2. It was all about filmmaking. Anyway to end the show they played this incredibly strange short film about a boy who was obsessed about horses. I can't remember the exact plot, but horses seemed to feature quite prominently and swinging along in the background was none other than 'Judy and the dream of horses'. appropriate? yeah, you could say. anyway best be off, goodbye all, kirsty ( I can't believe I admitted to reading The Daily Telegraph in my first post)XX ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The state i am indie
by Ken Chu 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Hello, I always thought the whole point of the "indie-do" thing was to pull. <Boy> Look at my "Camden Townie" gear! <Girl> Wow I love that boy there he's wearing flares and wears a duffle coat over a cardigan! *swoons* * Girl chats boy up * Girl flies into boy's arms to snog boy whilst boy leads her to his room to show off his ahem "record collection" I based that theory on the fact that, I never wore the said items, and no girls ever chat me up. If that's not a sound theory I dunno what is! lauren said: >>based on my own experiences at indie rock concerts i can conclude that the indie rock scene is pretentious, fake, and breeds snobby, judgmental people. << Therefore, if you want to breed non-snobby, non-judgemental people, next time you go to an indie-rock place, breed with me! More seriously tho, I have met some people in the "indie rock scene" who have struck me as being pretentious, but not any more than people in any other "scene" (there are probably people who will get into heated debate about how papa roach are better than limp bizkit), and anyway if you know in your heart that you're not pretentious or fake, then it doesn't matter whether other people are or not. Although, in order to pull, I should start to pretend to be more pretentious. JohaN HUGO said: >>pps. what would you call someone who is twee? is there a name? i propose tweet. and how twee is tweed?<< Some people use "twee fucker", personally I think it's a bit rude. Madeleine McNeil said: >>Nelly Whatshername who sang that song about the bird << Do you mean Nelly Retardo? My friend told me that in the song she sings "she's hung like a bird", I didn't believe him, but when I listened to it, she *does*! Will Porter said: >>Speaking of crushes, shockingly little attention seems to be paid to the list crush thingy anymore. Back in my day, list crushes were something we participated in, dammit<< Yeah, innit, nowadays people just *say* they like you, but never *crush* you. sob sob. Crushes and Red Bulls Ken (who *is* "indier than thou") +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tigermilking, post-picnic stylee
by Mark Casarotto 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

***this is a public service announcement*** This Saturday (25th), come along to TIGERMILKING, London's premier nitespot for the B&S connoisseur. This month we're downstairs at *The BETSEY TROTWOOD* pub in Farringdon - many of you will know it already, but for those of you who don't, it's about 5 minutes walk from Farringdon tube - right out of the station, right at the crossroads, then walk for 5 minutes and it's on the right hand side of the road. If you're going to the picnic, just follow the massed ranks of joyful anticipation who'll be heading that way. NB the downstairs bit - there may be something else going on upstairs, but that's nothing to do with us, no sir. It's on from 8pm until 1am, and will cost 4 pounds (or 6.35 Euros). Dancing will be near-compulsory, to tunes from the Byrds to Add N to X, Hefner to Jonathan Richman, Spiller to the Moldy Peaches, topped with lashings and lashings of creamy Belle and Sebastian. Y'all come, you hear? If you want any further info, or for me to beg you to come (and I'll be happy to do so), email me privately. It's worth stating that the Betsey is the smallest venue we've done, with space for only about 50-60 hardened souls, so come early - we WILL sell out. Literally and metaphorically, I expect. Have I forgotten anything? Groses bises, BG Markx ********************************************************************** HIT Entertainment PLC, Maple House 149 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1T 7NF Tel: +44 (20)7 554 2500, Fax: +44 (20)7 388 9321 The contents of this e-mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e-mail; please notify us by telephone on +44 (20)7 554 2500, and delete this message from your computer system. This e-mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e-mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.com www.hitwildlife.com ********************************************************************** +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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