December 2002 - Sinister

Sinister: Today/Re:Hiding
by Dimitra Daisy 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Dear Sinister, On the day Ian walked towards us in the park bringing cheap fizzy wine, strawberries and a chocolate cake, cheap fizzy wine, strawberries and a chocolate cake seemed like all one could ask for, all one needs to be happy. And there are days when strawberries and chocolate and wine dont mean nothing. There are days when the world seems quite hopeless: days when everyone seems unkind or at least inconsiderate, days when you think the world is so full of bad or wrong things youll spend all your life fighting against them and youll have no energy left to smile. Days that make you think that whats written on a wall just up the street is true. Live for your salary, die for you country the wall reads and there are days when I feel thats more or less what a lot of people get in this life. And that it is a great shame. But there are other days, days like the one Ian walked towards us in the park, or like today. Today is as cold as days in Thessaloniki ever get (quite cold) and so windy its hard to walk up streets. You can occasionally hear windows breaking, things falling off back balconies, door slamming and shutters banging. On top of all this its sort of raining too and the pavements are wet and slippery and full of puddles. I think everyone hates this weather, but I dont, at least not today. Despite having a cold and not feeling great, today I find this weather exciting. Today the world seems like a place full of light, a place where things could go right (despite so many of them being going wrong all the time), a place full with meaningful smiles, colourful things, even niceness and love; a place where we could be happy. I wrapped up in as many clothes as I could find and I went to the little shop on the corner to buy eggs, chocolate and tissues that come in a box with photos of flowers (guess which bit I like the most, the tissues or the box). The bloke who keeps it was listening to the radio. The radio was playing Palm Of My Hand. Palm of my hand is a rather old Pale Fountains song, of course most of you dont know the band let alone the song, but here it was a radio hit if sorts in the eighties However it is a very nice (quite Belle and Sebastian-y, actually) trumpety pop song about being in love, I think. And its probably the only trumpety pop song my first memories of which go way back to my childhood, one of the very few songs people used to listen to when I was really little that I would like even if I first heard them now. All this makes it pretty special, and what with the weather being a exciting and the world seeming like a nice place today I felt like the universe was smiling to me. Walking down the street I walked past the aforementioned wall and I read the writing on it again, and I realised I dont agree with it less today I just think there really is a way to get from things like that and that trying wont wear you out too much... I felt theres an inherence balance in the world and we just need to discover it and work with it My mind didnt take me very seriously but the rest of me was celebrating And I have no idea what it is that makes some days quite hopeless and some others so bright. Whatever it is, it seems quite random. What I know though is that I want a world like the one I see today, can someone give it to me for Christmas? Thank you, I will very much appreciate that, Dimitra Daisy xx Ps This started out as a reply to Eileens post... Im not sure exactly what it has to do with it though. ~~~~ Meanwhile, the idea has left its home in the sky and it was travelling fast through the atmosphere of the planet... it landed on the bed, among us, the empty cups of tea and the Lucksmiths, Sodastream and Magnetic Fields records. http://www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk/ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Faggy But Nice
by Lucy Alder 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Darling Sinister, Hands up if youre travelling from London to Glasgow next weekend! /me counts Sally Moore, David Moore, Big Gay Mark, Sarah G-S, Nal and, if she squints, she thinks she might also be able to see Ken Chu and Paul Ginger Fox. Wow! And to celebrate, were having a great big party called THE WINCHESTER CLUB! Its at the Woodside Social Club from 9pm with entertainment provided by the lovely Baptiste, the just-as-lovely Homescience and your friends the not-all-that-lovely-but-they-do-their-best Winchester Club DJs. And, as Jimmy Cricket might say, theres more! If you arrive nice and early theres a free CD of festive choons just for you including offerings by Sinisterines past and present: The Pines, Chris Leonard, The Red Bulldozers and The Dudley Corporation! But it is a limited edition thing so do come early and don't miss out. Oh, go on, do! My favourite post this week was by Gordon. And thats not even parrot-bias. New kids on the sinister block can check out previous Parrot offerings by going to the Sinister home page and typing Poetry Parrot into the search box and hitting the return key. Look, Ill do it for you http://www.missprint.org/cgi-bin/anylistsearch.cgi?query=poetry+parrot&list… OK, before I scare you half to death by magically transforming into Sam Walton, Ill run off and do some work. Its what Im here for, after all. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I Wonder What The Working Title Of The New Album Is?
by David Moore 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hi All, I've been thinking of writing to you for quite a while, but I didn't have much to say. I still don't know whether that's changed - I'll let you decide. I don't think it's been mentioned here, or in that other place that the Dirty Vicar finds more exciting, but there has been a little Belle And Sebastian activity apart from them recording a new album, getting the Horn, etc. A bloke called Ben Vaughn released an album called Glasgow Time on Francis Macdonald's Shoeshine records www.shoeshine.co.uk and a bloke called Stevie Jackson contributed backing vocals & played bass & harmonica on it. It's OK. Francis M has put out his own album (as Nice Man) called Sauchiehall And Hope and a nice girl called Sarah Martin took the photographs on the cover. Its pretty nice. The Shoeshine empire's best recent release by far is of course Laura Cantrell's When the Roses Bloom Again (I think you have to look at http://www.shoeshine.co.uk/Roses%20page.htm for that one). WOW!. That was a bit on topic really, wasn't it? Ok then, lets get off: One of my favourite musicians is playing two shows in London soon (& now that he lives in Sweden that doesn't happen very often). Ant, formerly drummer with the former Hefner, will be at the Betsy Trotwood on the 19th of December. Jack Hayter will support, Darren Hayman will play records. I suspect John will lurk about too. Then on the afternoon of the 21st Ant plays RoTa, in the Notting Hill Arts Club, with some other dudes. You could listen to some of his stuff at www.antpop.com , but I recommend going in any case. There's a Ant song on a Swedish compilation called Hit Music Only, which also contains a Sodastream song that you can't get anywhere else. If that's of interest try http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-67927/index.html for more info. I hope I'll see some of you lovely people this evening, & more of you next weekend. Take care of yourselves, Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Perils of Being a High School Senior
by elizabeth trawick 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hi Sinisters. It's been a while, hasn't it? I was blowing up balloons at work today and one of them popped. Well, the whole balloon didn't pop. Just the bottom. I have a habit of closing in air between the opening and the actual balloon part... What a horrible thing! My teacher played some music the other day from Ireland or Scotland. I can't remember which because I've a horrible memory, but I remember looking to my friend Laura and the both of us saying "Oh, that sounds like Belle and Sebastian!". It did indeed sound like them. Nice and comfy-like. I enjoyed everything my teacher played that day. At the end of the class I told her that my friend and I were both reminded of Belle and Sebastian and that she ought ('you can't get an "ought" from an "is"', and I don't know why I put that there ;) to listen to them. I asked if she would like to borrow a cd. She replied yes. With a smile, no less! I've been trying to find a way to get her into Belle and Sebastian since I found out she's a Simon and Garfunkle fan. Hee. Well. Today I brought Dog On Wheels for her to listen to. I told her that my favourite song by them is String Bean Jean (oh goodness, there are so many reasons why!) and that she should especially pay attention to it. I was very frightened that I wouldn't have my cd back. She was leaving for New York this afternoon and she hadn't given it back to me by the end of the day. Oh, but she did give it back to me just in time! She found me in Computer App. She put the cd in my hand and told me "I liked it. All of it." with a big toothy grin. I couldn't help but smile and ask "Really?". I offered to let her borrow a full-length cd and she said she would love to (in her own words, hee). Oh, the joys... My trip to Glasgow is inching ever closer. I'm getting very excited right now. I can hardly stay put in my seat! I should be excited because I'm spending time with my boyfriend over there, but oh goodness... I'm more excited about Scotland! What an awful girlfriend I must be! Perhaps I can (and more than likely will!) meet a few of you out there. That would be terribly exciting! Ah, I must get going now. There is hair to be dealth with and clothes to be changed! And also a few Orlando Bloom pictures to be looked at (but that's just between you and me)... xoxo, Elizabeth p.s. I bought myself a pair of knee-high socks (someone posted about them once!) and I quite like them. They're only black. Perhaps I will take the plunge and get the baby blue pair I've been wanting so badly! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i'm waiting on the rain, i'm waiting for the frogs to fall, down on me
by Matthew Henderson 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

So it's almost Christmas time. One of my favourite times of the year. If not THE favourite. I'm sick again. Well, i've always been sick I suppose, but this is in the physical sense. I'm sick a lot out here. Especially the last month and a half or so. It's terrible. And it always pops up right around the time each of the essays for my courses are due. I was so excited about this Scottish History Essay. I was picking out the books with a childish glee, really. Just the thought of immersing myself for a few days in the early stewart kings of Scotland, learning the treachery brewing around James I, the unfortunate Black Douglas incident of James II, That bitch of a battle at Flodden for poor James IV. But the day I picked out my first few books, it hit me. I was dizzy and tired and couldn't concentrate. I was coughing so much I couldn't read the book properly. I couldn't take anything in. Today is the first day I haven't really been coughing since then. I know I'm getting better, but I'm constantly tired and have a killer headache. Why does this keep happening to me? I don't think Glasgow likes me. I really don't. It's a lovely town, it really is, but I don't take advantage of it by any means. I probably should, and I just might, if I wasn't sick all the damn time. Or broke because an ATM took my bank card, and I have to wait six weeks to get a new one. Or I'm just too lazy. Sure the people are great, and I meet lots of interesting people all the time (although I can never remember who they are). And NPL and especially the Winchester Club <cough>fridaythethirteenthpeople!<cough> are brilliant fun, but I never got ill back home. I think when I'm better, I'm going to go to woolworths and get myself some christmas decorations. It's a great time of year. Brings back lots of good memories. And I love the winter. I love the cold. I'll be going home for Christmas in a few weeks. I'll decide when I get back if I want to stay here. I probably will. I don't like giving up that easily. I haven't even been to Stirling or Falkirk or Edinburgh yet. Or Berwick or even Langside. I have to do that. Glasgow and I will have to come to some sort of understanding. I think we could be really good friends. I really do like the weather here. -Matt P.S. On a belle and sebastian note, does anyone know why "MS." House and Sarah Martin were thanked at the end of the Pavement documentary "Slow Century"? I have to admit, that's the real reason behind this long, rambling, and somewhat depressing e-mail. And I think my headache had something to do with it as well. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sad sad chairs
by Dean Gillon 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hello everyone Just a quick link really. And it's an inexplicable story of chair stroke shoe related misfortune. It made me strangely sad and I thought of sinister. Now what does that tell you? http://www.mantlepies.com/disaster.html Such a sad chair. I hope everyone's got enough vitamin b12 in their diet. I'll be checking!!! Dean XX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: gap
by Kieran Devaney 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Dear Sinister, Its a cliché to be miserable at Christmas. The Offbeat Belle and Sebastian special. Reporting back. It was fun. I flew the flag for Sinister and danced to every single b&s song played, and some others too. It was strange. With people behaving in unexpected ways. I behaved oddly myself and told someone that I dont know at all that his enjoyment of caving was probably something oedipal, something about retreating back into the womb. I asked him if hed ever felt violent urges towards his father. He didnt understand. Birmingham is bleaker than I remember. Grimmer. Last week off the train the first person who talks to me is homeless Dave, pestering me for cash. Have I told you about him? He was on TV recently. I probably have. I didnt give him anything. On the street someone stopped me and asked if I knew where he could buy weed. I told him no. Because I dont. He singled me out, though, from amongst a whole load of people. Perhaps I need to change my image. Are you angry or are you boring? I have my gifts ready for the Sinister present exchange, nothing too flashy. I wont say quite what so I dont spoil the surprise. Im going to send them off tomorrow. Two cows standing in a field. One turns to the other and says: What do you think of all this BSE talk then? The other cow looks up and replies: Doesnt affect me, Im a fucking duck. At the moment Im tired of my English Lit course. I quite fancy quitting and doing a foundation art course. Itd be a massive step backwards because it would mean living at home again for a year and eschewing all the freedom I have in Sheffield, but I want more creative control whats the point in my being here if I cant write how I want? What do you reckon? Im going home for the holidays about this time next week. I cant decide if Im quite looking forward to it or not, last weekend I spent in Birmingham I stayed over at my friends house both nights, only seeing my family fleetingly. I feel a bit guilty about that. One of the ideas I had was that everything you ever said be taken down by some device which would then print out your words in light grey ink on an old dot matrix printer, on the long joined up reams of paper with the faint green print on the back, and everything you had said over the course of a month would be mailed out to you in print form, but minus the original context, so it would just be your own isolated words staring back at you. Reporting Back. I met another list member from Sheffield. Neil. That was nice. Hi Neil. You know that thing people sometimes do, where they exchange phone numbers, knowing full well that neither will call, just so it appears as though they have lots of mates when scrolling through their numbers? I dont do that. Whats the name of that colour that exists where green, grey and brown overlap? My old German teacher used to have a dress in that colour. We could never decide which it was. Debating that was more fun than Grammatik anyhow. This is another toothpaste question. It's another Venn-Diagram thing (some info on John Venn here: http://sue.csc.uvic.ca/~cos/venn/VennJohnEJC.html) It's another duck/rabbit old woman/young woman candlestick/two faces thing. My brother and I used to have big mock-shouty arguments about those where I would insistantly yell "It's a candlestick!" and he "It's two faces!" thus debunking the notion that the whole point is that it can be both. We were philosophers before our time. Did I tell you that the lead singer from the 80s Matchbox B-line Whatever spoke to me the other day? He had just done this terrible gig which I had unfortunately witnessed, hes such a poser I dislike descriptions like this, but theyre a band for people who pretend not to like metal. I like metal. He was lost and couldnt find where his bus was parked. I told him the way. He singled me out, though, from amongst a whole load of people. Perhaps I need to change my image. I suppose I should comment on S*g*r R*s. Actually, no. I wont. Relationships with the people here remain strained the talk has turned to who and where everyone will live next year, unfortunately excluding myself. Not that I mind. I might not even be here next year and I have people to live with if I am anyway. But nonetheless, Very tactless of them. Word Count. Please excuse my brevity. Have a happy Christmas if I dont write before then. - Kieran p.s. I remember ages ago when we were on holiday somewhere, on the beach. When it was time to go home I took a stick and dragged it through the sand as we walked back up towards our caravan. When we reached the edge of the beach and I was forced to abandon the stick I looked back and the little trail I'd left seemed to stretch on for miles. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What? I thought she was dead, or summit.
by Sam Walton 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

So, Sinister, hi. Before I begin, Ian said: >>it isn't acceptable to tell us you're going to be on the TELEVISION and >>then not tell us when we can tune in and watch it... details please! Well, I don't know when I'm gonna be on, either. I don't even know when I'm gonna record the show yet - apparently I get three weeks notice. And then I probably have to wait until Channel 4 decided to show the show. But don't you worry, Sinister, when I know when I'm gonna be on the telly, you'll know too. ///WE ARE THE SELF-REFERENTIAL SOCIETY\\\ There was a York Sinister Massive pubnic on Wednesday afternoon. Six of the YSM made an appearance: myself, Featherboa, Start Hallifax, Jen Knutsson, Gina Titchener and James Thorniley. It was a pleasant affair - beverages drunk included BEER, COKE, ORGANIC HOT CHOCOLATE and HERBAL TEA, and institutions patronised included BARS and PUBS - and we ended up in some strange hippie colony of a bar where you could play the piano, trumpets and the guitars that were lying around. Much fun. In said hippie colony we paid a pound to Amnesty so that we could carve a not-remotely-cliquey message about Sinister into the table. I won't tell you what it said though; you'll have to visit us to find out. ///THE LONELINESS OF AN OUT-OF-WORK THESP\\\ There was a trailor on BBC1 last night for a new drama-type thing with what?-I-thought-she-was-dead-or-summit poncey actress Enema Thompson. The reason I mention this is because the soundtrack to the trailor was "Fiction" from the Storytelling album. Observant sinisterines may note that this isn't the first time that Auntie has used B&S. Go on, let Carsmile refresh your memory: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200110/msg00064.html. Lovely. ///END BIT\\\ 'tis all. I "love" *you*. Asm.x ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Mandy Cohen _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you have nothing to live up to, you have nothing to live down
by ian 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

firstly, sam walton... it isn't acceptable to tell us you're going to be on the TELEVISION and then not tell us when we can tune in and watch it... details please! hannah, and anyone else who cares, there was a sinister bowlie list run last year. run by mr daf. moore. perhaps he will advertise it this year? i'll leave that up to him. right, on with the usual waffle. some of it is actually about b&s, yknow.. ---------- the sinister void is legendary. a great, gaping black hole somewhere to the south of aberdeen, it swallows up all the replies you HOPED you'd get to your post.* it has been a hungry beastie of late, i'm sure. depressed at the number of people hitting 'delete' one line into most of my posts, i decided to seek advice. thankfully, it was freely available. but i didn't ask the man who stands on the bull ring bridge and shouts about jesus. his advice is usually 'cleanse yourself of your sins' and it would take a fucking HUGE bar of soap to do that. instead, i found a nice man in birmingham rag market. he sold me a magic mirror. for just 2 squids, AND he threw in a free plastic bag. apparently, all one needs to do is ask the mirror a question. in rhyme, if possible. i tried: mirror, mirror, on the sofa how do i get a reply to a post on sinista? nothing, for ages. vowing to take it back to the thieving bastard who charged me 2 POUNDS for it, i went to make myself a cup of tea. and dropped it, when i came back to hear: 'ian, if you're not going to challenge me, i'm not going to put myself out to reply in rhyme. especially given the paucity of your effort. wordsworth you aint. in fact, your lyrical construction would make even sylvia plath shudder. anyway, as you so tiresomely asked about an internet list, i'll answer you. no. 1 write a sensible post. don't pretend to be a god, a nun, or an hip-swingy, arm-wavey maracca shakey type of pop star. don't talk about the religious implications of squiggles you found on your keyboard. don't pretend you've been receiving death-threats from archel playforth, when it was she who had to take out a restraining order on YOU........ don't... oh well, you get my drift. no. 2. its a music list. say something about music. no. 3 try not to drift off at a tangent and start spouting pornography' frigging hell. magic mirror, indeed... that piece of junk is going back in the morning. write something about music? what sort of crazy idea is that? but, looking at the recent sigur ros thread on sinister (bloody hell... 'thread', 'sinister'...) it would seem to be correct. and, weirdly, those posts were interesing to read too. who would have thought it?? write something about music.. god, that's a challenge... music, music, music... well, music,...errr....its nice, isn't it? madonna thinks it makes the people come together. which is always a good trick. at least one of you doesn't vanish off to the bathroom to grab some tissue while the other one lies there feeling abandoned and pissed off... (number 3.. try not to drift off at a tangent and start spouting pornograpy. bugger) can madonna's opinion be trusted? this is the woman who once sang a song about saying farewell to a PIE. also, she's shagging guy ritchie which isn't a good sign. let's pretend, for the purposes of this post, that she doesn't exist. -------------------- 'music'...too broad a subject, maybe...let's be more specific. 'belle and sebastian have become utter pish'. i suspect the person who typed this is still reading the archives, looking for some controversy he might have stirred up, so i won't mention his name. utter pish? i looked up 'pish' in the dictionary. it said 'like piss, but scottish'. oh. well, some people think piss is great. the woman in the hippy shop in moseley told me i should drink my own, three times a day. but then she does tend to talk crap. belle and sebastian = piss... hmm.. clearly that isn't true. piss is yellow. belle and sebastian are not. case closed. then again.... maybe its time to say it..... i thought 'storytelling' sounded half-developed, like a band chucking out something for their fans, and saying 'will this do?'. i've been disappointed by their recent live performances. i think its sad that isobel left, (although at the time i thought it was good, because when you're on stage you really shouldn't have someone at the front, yawning throughout for all the audience to see, because if you can't even be excited about your own music, how can you expect other people to be?) err...where was i...oh yes... but now... i think its sad ....about isobel's departure... if struan was the brain of b&s, isobel seemed like the heart, at least to begin with, in those glory days and crazy crazy nights.. ZESE ARE CRAAZZY CRAZZY CRAAAZZY CRRAZZZZY NIGHTS ZESE ARE CRAZZZZY CRAAAZZY CRAZZZZY CRAAAZZZY NIGHTS oops... i'm sorry. i don't know what came over me. (number three... don't go off at a tangent, and start spouting pornography) err... where was i? oh yes, isobel...the heart. but i think, if you'll let me stretch my metaphor, the heart was broken. are they now a band without a heart? or has the jackson transplant been successful? either way, there's no denying they've changed. no matter how much struan protests he hasn't ('how could i?' more easily than you think, dear.) would i join a b&s mailing list now? yeah, why the hell not? they're not my favourite band any more, but they're still...yknow...okay and if that isn't damning them with faint praise, i don't know what is. would i vote for them, as suggested by michael ashbridge, in peelie's festive fifty? abserlutely no way.. in a year when beth gibbons has released 'mysteries', a song so beautiful, it should be put on display and people should be FORCED to go up to it, and lick it..., when jad fair and teenage fanclub released the ridiculously infectious 'near to you' and where the cheeky girls have released the deceptively understated 'we are the cheeky girls' (watch this pair- gay icons in the making..) it really wouldn't be right to vote for 'i'm waking up to us'. (plus, i think the last b&s single came out in 2001. which is a good reason not to vote for it.) but i'm looking forward to the peel acres show. especially them (err... this is going to sound exceptionally twee, but RAH for tweeness) singing carols. their version of 'oh come, oh come emmanuel' was my favourite track on that xfm christmas album that came out a couple of years back.. err... except isobel sang on it. and she can't do that any more. bugger. the petition to bring her back starts here. i'm going to throw away all those copies of the last petition, the one to get rid of her. i really miss her yawney doe-eyed heavy-breathey ways. (not enough to buy a gentle waves album, don't be silly). if they got pigeonholed as 'twee'.. well, i never thought that was a particularly bad thing. i always liked their refusal to be hard in the face of the world. that was one of the things that set them apart from their contemporaries. that was one of the things i held up to be admired when people started their 'the smiths were much better' rants. i've always been a romantic fool. and i like my musicians the same way. i saw a boy who was walking through selly oak carrying a big teddy bear, and wearing a parka yesterday. he looked so pleasingly twee that i wanted to run up and hug him. there was i time, way back in 1999.. when the first bowlie occurred, and people came from ALL OVER THE GLOBE to the special belle and sebastian festival, that it seemed like that sort of softness could RULE THE WORLD. or at least find its way into popular culture for a bit, and produce a generation of softies. i wish it had done so. a look at the line up for this years bowlie shows what really happened. apparently, according to the web site some of the chalets have started to sell out. i can only assume that this is a LIE. but perhaps i should accept that its true, and that the likes of wevie stunder are the way forward.. no more tweeness, any more. but i still want to go, because of what it once was, not what it is now. hang out with a bunch of softies (because most of you are, whether you admit it or not) and sit on the beach. sod the bands, dream of a gentler world. one where laughing groups of over-aged 'boys' and 'girls' skip up the beach together, holding hands, and swinging their 'hello kitty' pencil cases. it still could happen. ----------------------------------------- number four, said the mirror, name your post after an obscure indie song. maybe even make a reference to it in your post.... err... emma's house is empty, so why do i call it emma's house done xx ian * of course, it isn't a black hole. a void cannot, by definition, be a colour. so let's just say that its very, very dark.** ** err...actually, IS black a colour? somebody once told me that it wasn't. but i think they were INSANE. i have a black jumper, and it certainly SEEMS to be a colour, but perhaps i'm deceiving myself. ------------------------------------- at least morrissey observes a considered silence and spares us all from him being a bloody pansy. anon ------------------------------------- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Greetz from Argentina
by Francisco López 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

So, after these two weeks reading all of these lovely messages by all of these lovely people, i've finally got a voice. And, after i start to shout a lot of non-sense that doesn't get anybody interested, i thought i'll introduce my self. I'm a little Argentinean boy (maybe you have heard about us, we are a small third worlded country in south america), who have recently turned to 17, recently turned to vegetarianism, recently turned to a belle and sebastian lover and recently turned to a big depressive pink cat... I tend to read (a lot), listen to silly and sensitive music, try to draw silly and sensitive comics, try to play silly and sensitive music with my bass and i also tend (a lot) to use the word "silly". I'm not very drafted in the whole "being a social person" thingy -at least no face to face-, so i write a lot in my computer, and hope someone will be interested (usually this hope crashes with the reality, but what the fuck...) Well, in order to not get anyone bored with my non-sense babble at my first post, i'll say good bye... Remember to be sweet with your mummies... Little kisses all around your bodies, Silly Fran PS: Sorry for my shitty english, it's not my natural language +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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