October 2003 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: impressions and questions
by laurel lemming 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

dear Sinister, now that I've had a week to keep DICKYWUSS on repeat, I've compiled a short list of things that I want to ask Sinister about. first I should say that I love the album. on first listen, I was kind of scared; I really didn't like it at all, and I didn't think the songs were going to become what all the other B+S songs are for me. but I think I've appropriated them into my B+S mind now. now, quickly, song by song: this isn't a review, it's a cry for help! Step Into My Office, Baby: lovely. fun. no questions here. Dear Catastrophe Waitress: on first listen, I thought it was rather weak for being the title track, and though I still think it's a bit of a stretch at times, it's grown on me. but not like IYFS or TWATTYBUS. If She Wants Me: fits nicely with We Rule The School, I think, thematically. Piazza, New York Catcher: classic B+S folky ballad. I like it better than Beyond The Sunrise, anyway. not that that takes much. anyone notice this, it sticks out to me: "...in the guise of *gentle* words/Come *wave* upon me" -- am I reading too much into this? see comment on I'm A Cuckoo as well. Asleep On A Sunbeam: one of my favorites on this album, if not my #1. you can sing This Is Just A Modern Rock Song to it, especially the solos in the instrumental parts. I'm A Cuckoo: ah, the first mention of prayers on the album. I'm not a fan. but the song is catchy. what do you make of the "lost a singer to her clothes" line? You Don't Send Me: is this an actual legitimate phrase, or a B+Sism? Wrapped Up in Books: every time I hear the first line, I think of String Bean Jean. which is not a bad thing. Lord Anthony: finally. I'm going to have to ask someone to translate "Bunking off though you're a toff" for me, though. maybe toff doesn't mean what I thought it did. If You Find Yourself Caught In Love: I love this song, except it makes me feel like I'm in church. the last verse saves it, though, I think. what's the line after "You've got to start somewhere?" Roy Walker: um. fun? Stay Loose: David Bowie crossed with Split Enz's "Dirty Creatures," I think. this took the longest for me to like. it doesn't sound like B+S. it's very strange to end an album with. overall, though, I like this album much better than both FISHYCLAP and Storytelling. it's a bit different, but it's more similar to previous albums than different from them. I like the order of the songs, particularly SIMOB and the LA/IYFYCIL transition. altogether, I'm incredibly pleased, and a little relieved. thanks and love, lem __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: how long since i wrote a sinister subject line?
by Chris Perriman 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

David Hewitt said: >They all seem to come back eventually anyway. If >you don't, you probably weren't ever really here. hi there sinister, long time no see its taken me about two years but i've returned. i've even bought the new album and i have to say i like it. it seems nasty to say that i'm glad its just struan (do we still call him that?) doing the songwriting, i like the others' songs but my idea of a proper B&S album is his voice singing his songs. how are you all doing then? i'm just great, my life has changed dramatically since you last saw me. i'm no longer unemployed and living with my parents, i'm studying towards an HND in newspaper design and infographics, i'm doing occational freelance design work and photography and i'm living in a lovely house in newcastle with some good friends. and i'm much happier. wasn't glastonbury hot? sorry i didn't find you mr carsmile but there was just so much to do, i was in the same field we camped in in 2002 but a little further down the hill. nice to see you all again, write soon, chris* +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Beer Alleviates Hatred
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.org 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

Hello... Have you ever had that feeling that sometimes it's nice to have an old friend who you know is never going to change, no matter what happens? Someone you can depend on, almost take for granted. It's a bit like pitchforkmedia, how reassuringly they write reviews that brings a smile to my face, enlightening me in such a way that is rivalled only by the likes of say, the Duke of Edinburgh. > Ironically, with a new-found ability to rectify their once at-odds > musical interests, Belle & Sebastian have emerged as shiny happy people, > becoming that of which they were always falsely accused: t*ee I like the notion that being happy = t*ee as well, did they not know that t*eeness is an affectation? What Kate of C said in her email made sense to me somewhat (I could well have totally misunderstood though). I guess it's not quite as COOL to be a B&S fan anymore because if someone asks you what they're like you can't say something like "oh they make really good folky songs about being bullied in school and stuff man", now you have to like, say "oh they have some pretty good songs in quite a few different music styles and about lots of things". It's just not as CATCHY. Critics probably call this "losing direction". I dunno, though. As long as there are the songs still with the flowing melody and witty lyrics I'm happy, whether I know what they had for breakfast or not. If you want to be cool nowadays you better be a RED BULL DOZERS fan. Guarenteed to help you pull. The myth, the shambolic performances, the lack of exposure to the press, it's got the lot, wow. AND they do madonna covers. Adrian Evans said: > I have to say that there does seem to be a twee siege mentality going on > around here. I personally think DICKWARTS is fantastic ... The louder the > > better - can't wait for the first Iron Maiden cover version. That's one already - The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner http://www.lyricsxp.com/lyrics/t/the_loneliness_of_the_long_distance_runner_ iron_ma.html Paul Arathoon said: > Which got me thinking- whatever happened to the sinister village? > For those too young to remember it was a virtual village which featured > members of Sinister. It was probably crap... I just checked and the site's still there! http://home.swipnet.se/~w-63235/sinister/ Aw, back in the days. Look! It's even called itself "A Twee Community", it'd be frowned upon these days. Dictionary.com is fantastic, their Word of the Day on 28th Sept is "TITIVATE" haha > It's easy to laugh at a book in which the heroine's husband > says to her, "You look beautiful," and then adds, "So stop > titivating yourself." > --Joyce Cohen, review of To Be the Best, by Barbara Taylor > Bradford, [1]New York Times, July 31, 1988 If I ever get married that's what I'm gonna tell my wife. Or maybe "So start Titivating yourself". Finally, rrrobyn said: >> i don't have: >> a b&s ticket for toronto. c'est trop cher pour moi. triste stuff. >> a whole bunch of new albums that i'd really like to have. >> a boyfriend. Single sinister boys in Toronto with a spare B&S ticket and lots of record store vouchers, here's your chance! Ken P.S.: If you still haven't send in your tape for the SINISTER NAMESAKES MIXTAPE CHALLENGE, it's not too late! Especially if your name is robyn, or robin, or robert. THE RACHELS have already handing theirs in, you know. ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator(a)uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: silly full moon glow
by Chikaskia＠aol.com 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

hi to all on this list. i am a long time lurker like many others here (i know a few of you here from another list of years ago called 'popjourno'). i bring you all strong ozarks and oklahoma prairie full moon energy that has percolated all week long, imagine good, organic, local food, beautiful people from newborns to crones, bright stars, fantastic clouds, the waxing moon, fire circles with appalachian, celtic, and korean instruments, hippie sisters rapping to a single drum and dancing the caber to a lowland pipe~ fields of pumpkins, horses with a wise knowing look in their eyes, sweat lodge fire, and sweating/chanting/praying to six directions, finally stumbling out of the 'sipapu', hardly any more able to stand that as if a newborn baby~ little treats like wild mushroom soup, pear trees spilling at the side of a lane. the thick somber pleasure of introspection while staring into the embers, under the midnight velvet of the heavens, the full body of the ancient earth revealing herself~ all this bracketed by the little city of tulsa before and after: the cycle of the retro dance floor, the court of crushes, the cycle of the poetry reading with it's spectrum of trash to vision, the cycle of the meditation circle~ may you all celebrate this most ripe moon in wonderful ways in your own hoods and lands! curtis andrew beckwith, in oklahoma +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Punctured bicycle on a hillside - desolate
by Paulo Stinsoni 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

You young whippersnappers you. I remember lying in my bedroom, back in 198? and listening to This Charming Man. It was the first Smiths song Id ever heard, and Johnny Marrs guitar twinkled on the tops of the pretty little notes, Morrisey whined his grass roots lyrics intertwined with teenage angst while all the time Mike Joyce (or was it Andy Rourke? I cant remember now) created a rolling bass line on which the guitar and voice sailed upon. I was a devoted Smiths fan from then. I took to wearing granddad shirts untucked, and flowers in my back pocket. I longed for some National Health specs (I did eventually get some) and oscillated wildly at "What Difference Does it make". I looked a right climpy. Others thought so too. I was bullied and persecuted for my "faith". We (my buddies and me) were hounded by groups of punks (punks in the mid eighties? They just dont know when to stop, probly all that smack has addled their minds) skinheads, and people of no noticeable musical faith (God knows why *they* bothered). I argued Morrissey's lyrics were ironic and funny, not miserable oh those fools. What Im trying to say was I suffered for their art. I was/am a devoted fan. And now, 20 years later I hear you youngsters talking about those Smiths songs, and how wonderful they were. Well you cant have them. I suffered. I lived through it and they belong to me, and anyone else who lived through that musical era. Get your own music to suffer for. There, now go ahead and tell me to get lost cos music is for everyone etc etc. Paulo _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: some more dcw reviews
by chris_t_opher 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

people, i just wrote this for Comes with a Smile (www.comeswithasmile.com) and anyone here with time to waste: --- Belle & Sebastian Dear Catastrophe Waitress (Rough Trade) Heroes to many, a sad joke to others, Belle & Sebastian can inspire both obsession and disgust from various quarters. That may be changing, however, as 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress' sees the band shedding their middle-class, intellectual-only, folk image. In its place, these 12 tracks bring an all-new Belle & Sebastian: poppy, polished, confident, realised and accessible. Step Into My Office, Baby is a cheeky and playful opener, If She Wants Me is a light and fluffy sing-along, I'm A Cuckoo is a blatant Thin Lizzy tribute and the closing track, Stay Loose, would have been a sure-fire hit in the 80s. Though the band denies Trevor Horn has heavily influenced their sound, much can be read into their unflinching willingness to employ him in the first place. For those old school fans currently despairing in their bedrooms, there are a few (yes, just a few) tasty treats on offer. The almost-lost gem, Lord Anthony, has thankfully been revived and will now stand alongside countless early E.P. and album tracks as a classic. Piazza, New York Catcher is a Donovan-esque acoustic song of sexual confusion and books things that made 'old' songs so great. However, they do feel like something of a cop-out by Stuart Murdoch. For such an otherwise-radical album, these 'traditional' tracks somehow feel out of place. Those who have remained loyal will probably feel disappointed upon the first few listens and the album does have some 'grower' potential. But whilst there are encouraging signs (Sarah Martin's blossoming voice, Trevor Horn not destroying the band completely, Stuart Murdoch reigning in songwriting controls) sparks of genius are few and far between especially considering this is Belle & Sebastian's longest album to date. Overall, 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress' is a sweeping change too drastic for many to something almost completely unrecognisable as that shy, retiring group from Glasgow. --- i also stumbled across rolling stone's review of dcw at http://www.americanmary.com/press/thenational_ssfdl_RS934_ltr.jpg . the national's album next to it is very good by the way. two posts in a month. i must be unemployed or something... c. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: new yawk times.
by marie elia 12 Oct '03

12 Oct '03

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/arts/music/12ROSE.html?ex=1066972553&ei=1… glad to see struan sporting the mets gear. my only memory of shea stadium (when i was 9) was wanting to Leave Please Soon Please? i myself have no love for the baseball. xo, ree ===== _____________________________________ "to me she was just marie." -mersault http://www.joannou.net/ree _____________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i love my car
by marie elia 11 Oct '03

11 Oct '03

a while back, keith watson spake thus: > Glad to hear everyone's enjoying the new LP, "magical pop confection" that > it apparently is; I haven't heard it yet cause it's not out yet but I'm sure > I will enjoy it when it does come out. Does anyone have the DVD yet or does > that take too long to download? ouch! that smarted. so i refused to listen to the promo copy that had dropped in my boyfriend's lap, waiting instead for the actual release. on tuesday, october 7 (exactly five years and two days after kimmy first slipped me a taped copy of IYFS and TBWTAS, which i listened to on the way to a liz phair show), christiaan waltzed into borders (the original borders, mind you) and paid the astronomical price of $16.99 for the new album. this is the first b&s album i haven't bought. but you know, i still own it. jointly. anyway. i listened to it while cleaning house the other night. tuesday night. it was alright. but then. today, i grabbed it on my way out to drive to the grocery store. and it hit me. you have to be Driving A Car to fall in love with this album. it's even better if you're driving down back roads in michigan with the amazing colors of turning leaves around you. i realized, this is the best fucking belle & sebastian album EVER. i love every song. i am fucking thrilled. i was so fucking thrilled that i drove past the grocery store and hit said back roads, driving and driving, just to be driving with the window down and stuart serenading me through the speakers. it's like the best 60s/70s pop with better lyrics. but with sweet old skool b&s moments. it's like the best of everything. and stuart is Sassy, damn. note: i like how he pronounces "thin lizzy" like "thin lezzy" -- or so it sounds to me. keep the faith, ree xo. ===== _____________________________________ "to me she was just marie." -mersault http://www.joannou.net/ree _____________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it's dot com!
by Brian Hess 11 Oct '03

11 Oct '03

Hey all, Greetings from PA Dutch country, where it's hard to be a B&S fan considering that the cows don't have very good taste in general. It's almost criminally pleasant outside today, and all the students are playing frisbee or field hockey. There's a lot of picnics happening here at the school too, people with Etown College plates and slight beer guts eating catered food and pretending to like each other. Good times, good times. My friend wants to play "I'm a Cuckoo" on his radio show tonight. Sadly this means I'll have to temporarily part with my copy of DCW, which has become an added appendage for me as of late. I think I'll be ok though, as the only chance I'll have to listen to it between now and tomorrow afternoon is after church, and "Step Into My Office, Baby" doesn't work too well up against all the church stuff. Although I might try to get a slightly modified "If You Find Yourself..." into the service at some point hehe... So I stayed up really late last nite talking to my art major friend about nothing in particular, biding my time, drinking her cider. Well, sampling anyway. And it was real nice, kept me awake until the fire alarm went off in our dorm at 3:00 AM, probably due to a bizarre fire extinguisher fight accident. Funny how things work out pleasantly like that sometimes. And that's all I've got to say. Did I do ok for my first post? I feel so grown up and stuff. I'll be representing at the Tower Theatre show next month, say hi if you're in town. Peace~ Brian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The waitress is no catastrophe
by John Wojcik 10 Oct '03

10 Oct '03

The girl on the cover of the new album is so damn cute. If anyone has any information about how I could reach her and possibly buy her sushi, please forward it on. Thanks, John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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