November 2003 - Sinister

Sinister: looking for 2003 B&S recordings and others
by Brian Gemborys 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Hi, Did anyone record B&S on their North American tour? concerts or radio spots, etc. I'm looking for any recordings I don't have (this tour and others, other versions of the shows I do have as well). My list is at http://www.gemborys.org/trading Thanks! -Brian brian_gemborys(a)yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: movin' on up to the east side
by Christine Irene 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

hello darlings, how are things? it's been awhile, i realise. i must apologise for this. things have been rather hectic lately. i'll give a brief rundown, whilst elaborating a bit on certain points. 1) i found a flat and will be moving in a few weeks time :o) 2) my sister got married and i wore false eyelashes to the affair 3) i still have 3 jobs 4) the owner of the irish store always calls me "love" and it makes me happy 5) i got to see the gin blossoms on friday....a great show. the singer is a bastard, but most are. the drummer is a sweetheart, but most are. 6) i did not go to new york last week :o( 7) my car broke and required very costly repairs. stupid car. 8) i am still in my weight lifting class....go me! 9) i begin irish dance lessons on tuesday....go me! (though i suspect this endeavour will result in more than one injury) 10) i owe lots of you emails...sorry. :o( 11) i had a really weird dream about the frapps! i dreamt that our own ben and rachel were in chicago on account of them wanting to see Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull fame) in concert here. the 2 of them came to my house to find me but i was out...so they tracked me down at the restaurant i was dining at. they walked in and i said to my friends "oh my god!! that is rachel fruitloop apps and ben apps!!!!" then i ducked all shyly....then the frapps walked over to me and rachel said " stine!! we found you!! we are going to see Ian Anderson and need you to care for our daughter, Rayma. She is 1 1/2 and well behaved." with that i was handed baby, diaper bag, and the frapps were on their way. weird :O) 12) love to you all :O) ~stine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Single Fare
by robin stout 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

If You Feel This Way Then Clap Your Hands =========================== Sam wrote: <<< Surely SIMO,B is one of the best tracks on the DCW. For me, the highlight of the entire album comes at 3:03 on this track, when that synth gambols into the break-down like someone putting an axe through a watermain. Wonderful stuff. >>> Dear Catastrophe Waitress is a great song, whatever slander Carsmile Steve has been spreading about it. Step into My Office, on the other hand, is just a bit *average*, I'd say. Especially the bit that goes "I want to give you the job, a chance of overtime", that sounds more like someone putting an axe through Pete Waterman. But you should still go and buy the single on the strength of the B sides alone. Love on the March, which didn't sound that good on the radio, and which I might have said bad things about her before, is rather splendid. It really goes to show how much difference a good arrangement and recording can make. I especially like the harmonies and the fact that it gets really angry. All credit to Mr Mick Cooke. Desperation Made a Fool of Me is wonderful wonderful wonderful in every way. Gosh, I would buy the single on the strength of this song alone. I think that the main problem with B&S releasing album tracks as singles is that the other songs are implicitly less important once they have B side status. Lots of people are likely to think, "Oh, well, if Step Into My Office is the best song on it, and I've got that already, then I won't bother", whereas Step Into My Office is actually the worst song on it and the other two songs are ace. In fact, I think I'm going to call this the "Desperation Made a Fool of Me Single", because I think it should be. And I Don't Know, If She Floats or Drowns =========================== I spent Saturday homeless, as the landlady had got some workmen round to put double glazing in my bedroom and they stank the rest of the house out with Kiss FM. As I crossed the bridge I noticed a goth floating down the river. A lot of people were standing and pointing and eating crisps. It seemed that, while the English were winning the rugby, the Welsh were enjoying a more traditional form of entertainment. If she survives she's a witch, if she doesn't she's a goth. It works out well either way. I had a secret hope that when the girl was rescued the water would reveal that underneath her funereal robes she was wearing pink spandex, but, as might be expected, there was only layer upon layer of infinitely black underwear, woven from spiders' webs and dyed with bats' blood. You Don't Have to Wear that Dress Tonight =========================== I was very sad that Roxanne was voted off Pop Idol, because I thought she was really good. It seems you need to have a weight problem or a stutter to win a talent show these days. At least Suzanne is still in. Gosh, I love Suzanne. Almost as much as I love Martine McCutcheon. I really want to go and see 'Love Actually', even though I heard it's rubbish, simply for the lovely Martine. I wonder if anyone has seen it. I hope she says "Lumme" or "Lord love a duck" or something of that sort; it would make my day. xxx R _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: still room on the broom
by Kevin Hyde 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Hi Sinisterines and -ettes, Would you throw the back of your hand to your gaping mouth if I told you I just bought the new album (which, OK, now I just refer to as Dacaw, like someone with Elmer Fudd aspirations mentioning the city in Senegal)? Well, it's true. So very true. My hipster quotient just dropped 600 points with that admission, damn. Now I won't even be able to get into an *Interpol* show. But: it's so good, the album. Wrapped Up in Books is an impossibly good song, as is I'm a Cuckoo. If She Wants Me, at least the way Stuart sings on the song, reminds me of the BeeGees, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Recent monetary deficits incurred because of grad school fees ( $70 'processing costs' obviously mean that the schools have to cover the 40 bottles of Caswell-Massey sandalwood soap they use to scour their hands with after touching each piece of paper in candidates' applications) necessitates me not taking part in the Christmas Exchange, although I did have a ridiculously good time with that last year, thanks to Laura Llew, Amy Page and Kieran Devaney (apologies to the girl to whom I sent presents, you live in New York and I can't remember your name, sorry- but you were a good recipient, I'm sure). The only caveat I would throw into the pot, with respect to sending things, is that for those of you who live in the U.S. you might want to think twice about sending blocks of Floridian tuna to your U.K. recipients. Fish, for some reason, tends to not travel well in hot cardboard boxes. Nor mayonnaise, if you were considering that. Used ear-plugs are quite the favorite though, I hear. I bought some girl in Chicago the new single, and I was glad to hear, today I think, that it's beyond good. Via Robin Stout, if I remember correctly. I have to say though, I don't think the cover art for the single is up to the level that they've established- I mean, the photo's nice and bright, and the cover stars are all nice-looking, but why the conflation of tennis and office-located sexual harassment? Are the girls asking for a ruling on a dispute over some wayward balls? My hermeneutical skills are frankly baffled by this picture. I'm vaguely looking forward to T-giving, although what food-centric holiday is complete without some sort of dramatic tension? My uncle Gary (who is not blood-kin) is a retired Marine, and will be in attendance this year. I've managed to avoid him for the past couple Thanksgivings by simply drinking lots before dinner and then collapsing into coma immediately afterwards. This is the man who would, with feigned casualness, tell me and my little brothers that unless we ate the rest of our mashed potatoes, he would take us all out back and beat the shit out of us. He used to say this without a smile, and with jaw ligaments bulging- thereby affecting a very complex and intense fear in myself and all of my siblings that persists to this day. I have a plan for this year though- when he asks me, as I'm sure he will, what I'm going to grad school for, I'll turn to him slowly and just say 'what the fuck dude, get out of my face', and then grab my grandmother and hold a gravy ladle next to her neck in a threatening manner. Should work. Even if short is the new long, I feel like I've failed in some really integral way in this post. Maybe the other Kevin can fare better. The other Kevin: hello, what's going on?. There's also a third Kevin, non-jackflaps and non-Hyde. Hello third Kevin. I enjoyed your story of roadside relieving-of-self. Take care, Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Love on the (temporarily paused) March
by Eric Brasure 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Dear Sinister, I'm curious: have ANY Americans gotten the new single yet? I've tried for a week and everyone tells me, "It's on order. It's on order. It's on order." Strange for something that was supposed to have been shipped and available for purchase on November 18. First, my DCW booklet was missprinted. Then, the DCW vinyl was delayed. Now, the single seems to have been lost. AND the single booklet is missing six (6) pages. Apparently. I wouldn't know, not having the damn thing. What's up, Rough Trade? Love, Eric PS You should all go out and buy Franz Ferdinand's EP Darts of Pleasure. Jay (www.jaylemurphreviews.blogspot.com) tells me it's good, and I tend to agree with him in many matters. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rhoda/petition.html
by Sam Walton 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Hello Sinister. Before I start, I must draw your attention to this: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rhoda/petition.html It's the online petition for "Rhoda", an early B&S song, to be re-released. Even if you've never heard it, please sign it; at this stage you just have to trust me and Mark C that it's the greatest unreleased composition by the band. Go on, sign it now. Click the link. You can read the rest of my Scintilating Post in a minute. I mean it. Sign it now: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rhoda/petition.html http://www.petitiononline.com/Rhoda/petition.html. Signed it yet? Right then, I'll begin. Sensationally, I *don't* have a ticket to go and see Belle & Sebastian this winter, not because I missed the ticket bus, but because it would have cost me about fifty quid to go and see them what with train fares and similar malarky, and I just don't have that kinda money at the moment. It's very sad. That said however, I did go and see Radiohead last night, in what I can only describe as something of a religious experience*. I hope the concerts are good for all those who go though. Having allowed DCW to sink in a little, I think I can safely say that in my mind it's the strongest of B&S's albums. I mean sure, there are two duff tracks on it (DCW, which, since Carsmile mentioned it, I can't stop hearing as a My Life Story record, and RW - The Clunker #2, surely), but then again so do most of the other records. And the remaining tracks are, well, nigh on perfection, in my humble O. It's been two months now, and ISWM is still recieving *daily* airplay. That's rare for me, btw. So I bought the new single, too. Big Stu was mentioning the lack of reviews, and for that sparce analysis you'll be punished with my opinions. I personally think it's great. Surely SIMO,B is one of the best tracks on the DCW. For me, the highlight of the entire album comes at 3:03 on this track, when that synth gambols into the break-down like someone putting an axe through a watermain. Wonderful stuff. LOTM sounds great all studio-ed up, I reckon. I wasn't keen on the Peel Sesh version, but all studio-ed up it's great. I've recently joined a samba percussion group, and it's nice to hear one of my favourite bands doing some Brazilian tinged stuff. And DMAFOM? Well, it's DMAFOM; who can argue? Gorgeous melody, and that unexpected chord-change in the chorus? Phew, it got me going, for sure. I guess, actually, that's all I've got to say at the moment. As far as my state of mind goes, I've been a bit stressed, but nothing I can't handle really. Hopefully. I just really wanted to tell you what I thought of the new single. Time was, once, that Sinister would be flooded with thoughts of a new single. Wow, aren't we grown up... :-) Oh, and sign here: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rhoda/petition.html love Asm.x *and I'm not even that much of a Radiohead obsessive, either. ================================ "He's strictly a pain in the ass, but he certainly has a good vocabulary" - Holden Caulfield _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i've never felt so separate, and then there's you, but that's so obvious
by miss lou 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

hello sinister. i want to thank everyone, first off, for the lovely well-wishing as far as the job hunt goes. you're all terribly kind and good. so, an update before i get to other matters: i've had two interviews with the city newspaper in the last week, and an additional scheduled time of appearance to take a copy editing test. and apparently i did well on the editing parts of said exam, but not so well on the current events portion of said exam. in my defense, the 'current events' were from two years ago, and what with all the information i must cram into my tiny (blonde) head, i apparently thought it safe to forget gary condit's name. go figure. i find out if i get the internship tomorrow or tuesday. and if i don't, it'll be a nifty life selling classifieds and typing obits. oh yes. and teaching a creative writing class to elementary school kids. we're going to write loverly things, i think. *** last night, nebraska saw its first snow of the season. and i did what i always do during the first snow. at least what i have done for the last few years, which seems like always (which maybe is how things go when you do them on your own and feel all grown up). anyway. i went outside in it and smoked. and i thought of very many things out there on my porch, looking at eleventh street and wishing it would quiet down so i could enjoy the snow-quiet i generally miss during the summer months. and eventually it did, and i went inside to put on a little nick drake. and then i went back outside and watched the flakes for a little while longer, thinking all the little bits under the streetlamps looked like the gnats my roommate and i watched in the summer. before she was pregnant. and before i was so lonely and pining for various boys who don't live here. or boys who are, in all practicality, irreversably fucked up. but i still like the snowflakes more than the gnats. and i knew then that i wanted to kiss someone in the snow. i never have before, you see. and it wasn't meant to be a kiss to lead to love -- no. i just wanted the cold and all the little damp specks on my face and neck and fingertips to have a better meaning. a more visceral one. but. i was alone. *** i heard about the newspaper's weekend outing. and apparently, in some drunken rage, the new opinion editor told her husband to hit her. and he did. i wonder if it was timed with the moment last night my friend nolan said, rather appalingly, domestic abuse would always be funny. and i said no, it wouldn't. when does everything start to reverse, really? xo.lou. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sinister Christmas Present Exchange Deadline Reminder!
by Laura Llew 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

Is anyone else missing the barrage of reporting backs that kept the list humming happily there while B&S were touring the US? Even if I couldn't go to all of them, it was nice hearing about it. Of course, it was also nice going to the "missed connection" part on Craigs List during the NYC ones and seeing ones like, "Belle & Sebastian show: you were the Asian girl with asymetrical hair. I was the boy with the too tight sweater on. I think we might be soul mates." L-l-l-l-love connection. So my point in writing this is to quickly remind everyone that if you want to particpate in the Sinister Christmas Present Exchange then you need to get your information to me before this Tuesday. Unless you've JUST sent me your information (*waves to Grainne and S Lord*) then you should have already gotten a confirmation e-mail from me. If not, that means that it got lost in the wonders of the modern interweb so please send again. You should be hearing from me before the end of this month as to who you will be giving to. For information on what it is and how to participate please go here: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200311/msg00050.html Right now we have about 40 people signed up to participate and that's just a little shy of enough to help me build my chocolate covered boy brigade so snip snap people! I realize that in the past few days it's been hard to tear your eyes off of Michael Jackson's police booking photo (which as Songles Dave pointed out - looks exactly like the painting "The Scream") which seems to be schlacked everywhere in the media. However, these are the things which we must overcome. Be strong my sinikids, Ll _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fwd: B & S Mailing List - US Version of "Step Into My Office, Baby"
by Grainne Lynch 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

Look Neil's back! And Rough Trade work out of the Chelsea Hotel - how cool! --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:23:10 From: <band(a)banchory.net> To: <list(a)banchory.net> Cc: Hello, Due to a printing error, the US version of "Step Into My Office, Baby" only has a two-page insert, as opposed to the eight-page booklet that every other territory has. This was in no way deliberate, and we're sorry that you yanks have been hard done by. So, we'd like to give you the opportunity to get the artwork as originally intended. Simply send the insert, with a stamped addressed envelope to: Rough Trade Chelsea Hotel 222 West 23rd St New York NY 10011 and Rough Trade will send you the eight-page booklet complete with lyrics, photos and credits. And maybe something else for your troubles. Sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully this will go someway to setting it straight. Cheers, Neil @ Banchory http://www.jvtdesign.com/e-cards/bs-office.html http://www.dearcatastrophewaitress.com http://www.belleandsebastian.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank email to list-off(a)banchory.net --------- End Forwarded Message --------- ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You know my Ninja-ing Days are Over
by Adrian Evans 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

I've just been looking for a bit of Hong Kong Fuey on CD Wow! and couldn't believe me eyes. I know Struan could fight, but I didn't ealise he was in the same league as Van Damme. http://www5.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php?product_code=8403 I'll not call him a poof again. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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