December 2003 - Sinister

Sinister: I sent this already but it got lost. you might get it twice please don't hate me
by robin stout 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Lou said: << i always think i know something about music until i get involved in one of said conversations, and then i realize i actually know more about wham! than, say, the evolution of punk rock or something. and it's always a particular nuisance with boys. sorry guys. but it's true. anyway, i'm mad at all you boys today as it is. >> I've never made someone's knowledge of music a top priority, especially as I don't really know much about it myself. I've always thought it was more of a Sinister thing to fall in love with mousey-haired librarians or shiny-buttoned bus conductors, anyway. Your ideal man is more likely to have 45's of British Birdsong in his record collection than rock music. In any case, my key to successful dating has always been to go up to the girl in the laundrette with the determined chin and to tell her that I'm in the Secret Service, on a top secret mission, and she has to accompany me to the Co-Op for a cheese sandwich as a matter of National Security. Usually this results in the girl saying "lumee", or possibly "lord love a duck", and romance soon blossoms. It never fails. Carsmile atoned for his sins: << Also also also I have changed my mind about DCW (song). In fact, it sounds like deram era dame david bowie rather than MLS (sorry about that by the way asm). >> Then said (in his spot-on list of 7): <<2. how much struan sounds like nico on the bit in DCW (the song), where he rhymes town with clown, just as she did on femme fatale >> I'm convinced that the wondrous and obscure Desperation Made a Fool of Me sounds like a Velvet Underground song, but I can't for the life of me work out which one. So there's one for allmusicisintrinsicallylinked, if anyone knows. Steve, no one is going on Thursday, not even Belle and Sebastian. They're going to substitute themselves with robots, who have been carefully programmed in how to lisp and play their guitars like pansies, but will no doubt break their programming, as robots always do, and start playing bad Kraftwerk covers instead. Make sure you wear your robotproof hat. I'm currently having a deep personal crisis over whether to sing Yes Sir, I Can Boogie for karaoke on Friday. Part of me really really wants to do it, but another part of me knows that it will probably be the worst mistake of my life. I have been practicing in front of the bathroom mirror with a toothbrush, just in case. I suppose it depends on how drunk I am. So, if you want some top-class entertainment, you're quite welcome to buy me drinks. robin x _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: London day 1
by Mark Brading 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

So - here I am. My first post. Hello everyone. For years (literally years - I've been here since 1999, on and off) I've been wondering what my first post should be. There have been so many fantastic ones, it seems imposable to do the list justice. I'd always thought that some reporting back would make a good first post, but I never managed to get a setlist for any gigs I went to, so I thought I'd wait until I got one & report back properly. But this evening I got one - for the first time. Trouble is, I lost it again almost immediately in circumstances bubbling with surprise and sexual intrigue. I'll tell you about them in a minute (a cliffhanger you see - that should keep you reading). But nonetheless, a setlist I had, albeit only for a few seconds, so here I am reporting back, just like I promised myself I would. (Breaking promises you make to yourself is the first step towards disaster and rack and ruin, or so my mother used to tell me. Frankly, I have reason to doubt alot of what she used to say ("don't do that, you'll go blind!"), but it seems like good advice nonetheless). I arrived around half six, and (after picking up a couple tins of refreshing beer from the bar) positioned myself quite near the front. To get to the very front you probably have to start queuing at about 4pm, and also not get any beer. I'm happy with the trade-off. People bustled in around me - including a very pretty girl with pigtails who completely ignored me when I said hello to her, so I completely ignored her back from the rest of the gig. Bet that showed her... Scatter came on after a bit and were... superb, I thought... Unexpected anyway; playing spoken word pieces which I didn't like at first but which really grew on me by the end of the set. Certainly one of the better support acts I've seen. The guy standing behind me liked Scatter too. He turned out to be Jonathan Skinner - which was cool. I felt like I'd met someone famous. It was nice to meet you... Thanks for holding my stuff while I went to the toilet - I would never have fought my way back to the middle if you hadn't... There was about a 45 minute wait before B&S came on, which seems pretty normal these days, but when they arrived it was well worth the wait. I can't tell you the setlist, cos I lost it in a steamy close encounter (keep reading), but I can tell you that they definitely played: Expectations SIMOB Sleep the Clock Around Slow Graffiti Wrapped up in Books You don't send me Stars of track and field Woman's realm Stay loose I'm a cuckoo Asleep on a sunbeam Stay loose Dear Catastrophe waitress You're just a baby But not in that order, and loads more too. Stuart seemed in a really good mood - in fact the whole band looked like they were having a really good time, bantering with the crowd. Stuart told us how he liked to pee in the open air, and Stevie said he'd once peed on the white-house lawn. All the talk of peeing made me feel sorry for Jonathan Skinner's mate, who'd wanted to go for a pee ever since Scatter went off. Should have gone during the break, mate... The crowd didn't dance much, but got really well into it, and dragged the band back for two amazing encores. People had been shouting for LLPJ all night, prompting Stuart to ask if there were any girls who wanted to sing it. A girl finally went up and did not a bad job, once she actually stared singing instead of making funny faces. It was very brave and she was very cool - Stuart gave her a medal for it. They finally finished with Judy - probably my all time favourite... so I danced a clapped and bounced and had an amazing time. Fantastic. I always wonder, at B&S gigs, why nobody ever reports back how beautiful Sarah looks. I think Sarah's lovely - I always much preferred her to Isobel, and she seems to be a fun person too. I hope she is. I think she's the member of the band I'd most like to meet, given the chance. As everyone left, I pushed to the front to see if I could get a setlist. He had loads to give out, and he pushed one straight into my hand. I stood there admiring it for a few minutes, waiting for people to leave, and after a bit a very cute girl with freckles came up to me. (This is the bit you have been waiting for, if you're still awake). "Wow, you got a setlist", she said, "can I have it?" She smiled at me so prettily I was about to say yes, but I glanced down at the list for a few seconds to see if I could memorise it. "Oh please", she said, "I'll give you a snog for it", and before I could say any more she snogged me, right at the front of the Astoria (if my girlfriend reads this, she jumped on me, and there was nothing I could do, honest injun). I was so surprised just handed her the list, and with a little smile and a final peck on the cheek, she skipped off with her prize. So, whatever your name was, you could have had it anyway, but it's given me a good story to tell. And there we are, the longest dullest ever reporting back; the longest dullest ever first post. But it's late, so hopefully I might have helped you to sleep. I love reading sinister, do keep posting. Maybe one day I'll meet some more of you in real life... mark +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: less than 24 hours to goooo.....
by Chris Eames 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

So Im off to see the band (finally) on tomorrow!!! I can't wait. Glad to hear tonight was good, if tomorrow is anywhere near as long i will be very very happy indeed! On another note, is anyone going to see Isobel on Monday in London? I've had tickets for ages but my friend decided not to come so if anyone is in need of a ticket and fancies keeping a lonely boy company send me an e-mail....... So of the new album: When I went to buy it, I was helping a friend carry furniture home from Argos in Hammersmith... Not knowing Hammersmith too well (even though I live just down the road) I managed to find possible the smallest Virgin Megastore known to humanity. It really didn't seem all that mega to me. Well I didnt really want to give money to the big record chain people but I really wanted the new album, and when I walked into the shop to find Lazy Line Painter Jane playing I decided it was fate. But no, not only did they not have a single copy of Dear Catastrophe waitress, they only had one lonely belle and seb album at all! Luckily I managed to get a copy later that day in a different shop, which incidentally was playing Lord Anthony, so I wasn't too disappointed. It seems strangest the only times I have ever heard belle and seb being played in a shop, was on my new album buying day. I may be a bit late for the flurry of reviews but I must say I do love it. It hasn't quite overtaken tbwtas yet but Piazza and Im a cuckoo are nearly always in my head. I got my hand on a copy of Fans only as well, and its one of those things you just cant stop putting on and watching all the way through whenever you feel like listening to a belle and seb track. I doubt anyone at uni would accept that as a reason for handing in my lab report late.. Anyway, I really should go do some work, Chris PS - Matt, the Dune references were certainly not lost on me. ________________________________________________________________________ Download Yahoo! Messenger now for a chance to win Live At Knebworth DVDs http://www.yahoo.co.uk/robbiewilliams +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "there's no need to swear"-"there's every need to swear"
by staralful - 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

fantastic gig!!!!!am i the first to report back it was great and they were all on top form although mr stevie evidently has broken up with someone special which was a shame. stuart had silver pants on and a girl made an arse of herself singing lazy line painter jane ****the set list**** surfy thing expectations step into my office baby wrapped up in books womans realm lonliness of the middle distance runner wrong girl slow graffiti travelling light dear catastrophe waitress you don't send me stars of track and field dirty dream no 2 piazza new york catcher asleep on a sunbeam i'm a cuckoo she's losing it you're just a baby roy walker stay loose sleep the clock around **************** lazy line painter jane judy and the dream of horses ********************* it was quite a long set must have been on for over 2 hours. it was worth the journeying accross seas to see the gig. a few things about this side of the irish sea confuse me how can a shop give you a five pound note , then it isn't acceptable in another shop? very odd and very piss offable. other than that london is great and we have found a groovy 24/7 restaurant to go to. sorry about briefness but i must get out and see the house of commons at night ta ta jonathan "Are you calling Mr Simpson a liar?"-----" Not exactly -but we do have this fottage of him with his pants on fire" _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: WHO IN THIS BEEYOTCH IS GOING TO SEE THE BAND ON THURSDAY?
by Hewitt, Stephen 03 Dec '03

03 Dec '03

ello babies So, anyway, I'm going on Thursday to the Astoria, having failed to engage my ass into the appropriate gear to get a Friday ticket (when all the cool kids are going and will be doing karaoke apparently, don't turn up late and miss david moore doing his rendition of band of gold!), I seem to be attending tomorrow evening instead, but is anyone else, or is it going to be like going round to the band's house (they do all still live in one house, don't they?) and being made to make cups of tea for them all and then having to do the washing up? Anyway, if you are, let me know, or alternatively, I'll probably just ensconce myself in the angel in st giles (http://www.fancyapint.com/thepubs/pub502.htm) from about 5, so come and find me innit. If short is the new long, then I don't wanna be short, so now for a lot of out of date waffle. La hodottir said (a month ago) LOOK BARRY LASAGNE ON THE TELLY, blah blah AFC blah blah If only it'd been our Stu joining the team, the whole thing would have been wonderfully complete. Of course, the only problem with this is mentioning Stuart Murdoch to AFC Wimblebum fans makes them think of only one man, the manager of franchise FC, who is also called stuart murdoch, small world and all that... Llllllllleweth organised the xmas present exchange, well done her, I've been having a little difficulty getting the very wriggly boy to sit still long enough to get the chocolate to set though, oh well there's always the ether... I missed stevie and richard on the telly because I don't watch telly in the morning, and if I did I wouldn't watch ri:se (haha, "su:nk" more like, doyouseewhatididthere?) I see CHU is claiming to be some sort of "rocker". Ha! Bet he didn't see the darkness a year and a half ago when they had NOWT like what I did. Well I say "see". Actually I was stood in the bar bit of the bull and gate going "what the EFF is going on in the back room, it sounds very silly", but hey, it's something to tell the grandkids innit... Also I bet he isn't going to see THIS IS SPINAL TAP on the big screen at the NFT after wobs like what I am. Also is richard linklater a b&s fan? Why else call your film "school of rock", rather than "rock school"?? Also also when I went to see the darkness last month, about half way through I turned to mrs carsmile and said "isn't it odd that my two favourite bands both want to be thin lizzy!" Also also also I have changed my mind about DCW (song). In fact, it sounds like deram era dame david bowie rather than MLS (sorry about that by the way asm). DCW (the album) is certainly growing on me (growing on yoooooooooouuuuuuuuuu), although it perhaps tails off a bit after LA. THINGS I HAVEN'T NOTICED OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONING ABOUT DCW (although they might of) 1. how many songs sound like other belle and sebastian songs, eg. Wrapped up in books = string bean jean, piazza, new york catcher = belle and sebastian, slow bit near the end of stay loose = chalet lines. 2. how much struan sounds like nico on the bit in DCW (the song), where he rhymes town with clown, just as she did on femme fatale 3. how much the guitar on wrapped up in books sounds like paperback writer (doyouseewhattheydidthere?) 4. how nice it is when stevie turns up on WUIB, "yay, it's stevie!" I thought to myself (I was on the bus, listening through headphones, so it seemed out of place to shout it) 5. how the brass bits on I'm a cuckoo really fill it out compared to the live versions we heard last year 6. how there are two good "substitute the proper words for rude words" bits (cf "swing my cock around", "the centre of my so-called penis" etc) in stay loose, but I can't remember them at the moment and I don't think my office want to listen to it. Oh, hold on the lyrics are on the website, silly me. Try replacing the word bed with head and past with arse the next time you're singing along, eh kids. 7. how fucking trite the last verse of if you find yourself caught in love is. I'm saying stuart can write a real proper anti-war protest song that would be aces, so why does he try and stick in what we used to call in the 80s "a bit of politics" into the end of this featherweight godbothering nonsense????? It just makes him sound like travis or summat... What has amused me recently is if you put the phrase belle and sebastian songs into google and click "I'm feeling lucky" you get here: http://www.geocities.com/carsmilesteve/allmusicisintrinsicallylinked.htm Hurray for me! Also, I need to update this page with all the new album soundalikeys, so if ppl can mail me with any good ones, that'd be sooooper. Right, that's my load shot for another two months (Reporting Back not included). xoxo CarsmileSteve +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Kings of Leon, oh deary me.
by a.s.t.r.i.d＠nme.com 03 Dec '03

03 Dec '03

Hi y'all (I am smiling to myself because y'all always looks so weird when you write it, er) This was one fucking WEIRD weekend! On Saturday, Kings of Leon were in town, and myself and the ever so lovely Amanda wanted to just hang outside the venue a bit to see if we could meet them, since the gig was a this club. And, so, we, er, stood there for way too long and when we had stood there for... well, more than three hours and had only met Jared so far, we were about to give up, almost, when the road manager Ryan came out and said. "Hey, write down your names on a piece of paper for me, and I'll put you up on the guestlist." Ok. So, what if it doesn't work, they'll probably ask for ID, or so we thought, so we went home to my place, speed-ate dinner, panicked and shrieked along to "Youth and Young Manhood" and were dressing up and putting on make-up. We didn't expect anything, but we went there and I was so damn nervous I was trembling, but I went past the line, and this was what happened: Me: Hello Guard: Hiya Me: We're on the guestlist... Guard: Wow, is there one? Me: Um, yes. Guard: Ok, get in then. Then the even weirder thing happened inside with the people standing there. Me: hello, we're on Kings of Leon's guestlist, Astrid and Amanda? Person in charge: Here you go, oh, wait! This too! [gives us two stickers which says After Show 29/11 and I stare at it] Me: So, is this like an official after party or something? Person in charge: Not really, but you can go to their dressing room after the show and hang out with them. Me: Um, ok, yes, I'll settle for that, hehe [Blank face from person in charge] Me: Er... [heads off for wardrobe] The gig was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, with me and Amanda all up at the front, dancing like mad, together with Charlote & Charlotte, two super nice British girls who were the NME winners of the Kings of Leon Stockholm competition, so we hung out too all night. After the show, we got in to their dressing room and we had some beer and talked to the fucking kings of leon, yay!, and they were nice but they've OBVIOUSLY been styled a bit, but damn they were nice and funny anyways! Also, we got to talk to the lovely Regina Spektor, who was support. She was really cool and she has a lovely voice. She looked a bit twee actually. They wanted to go to this other club so we packed ourselves into a cab and went to this club, and, er, well we stood in the line with them and Jared "Had to pee so badly" he almost couldn't breathe. They got in, but me and Amanda and Charlotte and Charlotte who were a bit tipsy by then had to make arses of ourselves and try to sneak in on this side entrance but the guard from hell noticed us and it was all a lot of shindigs and shenanigans. But then us girls walked back to the bus, left a little note and said goodbye. It was such a surreal night but a nice one none the less. None of my friends like them, or even know how special that was to me, so they we're like "Er, that's great", hence me writing here, hoping someone will be as enthusiastic as me. In other news... Miss Lou's latest post was really really great and it was stuff I've thought about as well, but couldn't put into words as well as Miss Lou. So lots of cred to that post, and Miss Lou too, of course. And I'm planning for my two sinister pressies and I'm all ready to start making them and send 'em out. I will reveal nothing of what it is, except for the fact that I'm sending one to the states and one to Great Britain. So. Yes. I'm really looking forward to Christmas, even though I always start arguing with my eldest sister around lunch time and feel like the black sheep of the family even though I'm not, I'm just a slackerette, and sulk in my room and listen to sad music and write something depressive about the commercialism of christmas and the general evilness of family gatherings in my diary, to then have a lovely christmas eve and at midnight write again in my diary, but this time, "Oh, ok, so I am a materialist beyond words, but, I've gotten SO MUCH LOVELT THINGS! I LOVE CHRISTMAS!". So, it's a bit schizophrenic, really. But only for me. All the me's. Joke there. But it wasn't really funny. Hmmm. Soon, I'm to have a history class with my extremely enervating teacher who is a nice guy and talks about life and the world and all that but never really teaches us things. And we have him for Religion too. Urgh. And then, LUNCH. LUNCH. LUNCH. HURR-AH! I'm reallyreallyreally hungry... mmm... veggie dish of the day... it was something tasty... mmm... pasta with something... ahhhh... [Homer-esque sound of imagining different things to go with pasta] Yeeeees. I know I'll see Love Actually soon enough, I know it's going to be predictable and I know I'm going to go home and cry afterwards and think about how love never works and that when I grow up and go to university in England, it HAS to work for me or else life is evil, because that's how I work. But it's got Colin Firth, I like him. And Shoe Grant, as my friend calls him because she thinks he personalizes the word Shoe. Sort of true. It might be the hair. Anyways, I've rambled enough, go read something interesting from someone else instead, Pre-Christmas love Astrid x --------------------------------------------------- Who would you rather be - Ted Danson or Kevin Costner? Fab: Who the fuck is Ted Dancer? Ted Danson. Fab: Oh, Danson. Nick: I think Ted Danson wears a toupee. ______________________________________________________________ For up-to-the-minute music news, reviews and specials visit http://www.nme.com Get free e-mail (anyname(a)nme.com) now at http://www.nmemail.com The sender of this e-mail is NOT an employee or associate of NME, nme.com or any other IPC magazine. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Why does God...need a Starship??
by Matthew Henderson 03 Dec '03

03 Dec '03

Where have all the geeks gone? The problem with the Glasgow (and possibly entire UK) hipster scene is the lack of geeks. It makes me feel a bit lonely sometimes. Sure, there are the music geeks. And the music geek subcategories: lo-fi geeks, 60's pop geeks, post-rock-we-hate-blur-because-mogwai-say-so geeks, the northern soul geeks, etc... But where are the proper geeks? The nerds i grew up with and loved oh-so dearly? The hermetic masters of the world? I've met one proper one that will admit to it out here. I won't name names, but he holds impressive credentials. And yes, there is the occasional Dr. Who fanatic (kingofpartick). In fact, Dr. Who seems to be the only main geek thing celebrated out here. I walk down the road every day and chuckle when I see the large inflatable dalek in the window of someone's flat. But surely we can do better than that, as I am american and have little or no previous knowledge of the phenomenon. (other than the fact that 100 tacos is adequate sustinence for a Dr. Who marathon) I think there are more out there than they want to admit. Hiding away somewhere, fearful of the indie hipsters and their belle and sebastian quoting and smiths-soaked tears. We must rise, brothers. Raise up an army, put on your Mandalorian armour, siege the country, and we will all shout KABLAH in unison, crying to the heavens with joy. Or not. I suppose I should just face the facts. The hipsters out here just don't have time for it. It's as though I left Caladan for Arrakis with a fleet of battleships and batallions armed only with lasguns. Out here, indie knowledge is the desert power. At least I'll always have the Century of Fakers video. watch it and you'll see what I mean. I'm off to London on Thursday to catch some Belle gigs and maybe Chickfactor. Maybe I'll see you out there. Before then, I have to write this paper, so I suppose I should stop procrastinating and get on with it. -Matt P.S. If you caught the subject line's reference, give yourself a point. Two if you thought about that quote when you saw Matrix Revolutions. Three if you thought of that at Matrix Revolutions, along with Dune Messiah. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: there's something wrong with me
by miss lou 03 Dec '03

03 Dec '03

hello sinister. i say yay to bapps and idles for the little tales. and i agree with idels re: indie discussions. i always think i know something about music until i get involved in one of said conversations, and then i realize i actually know more about wham! than, say, the evolution of punk rock or something. and it's always a particular nuisance with boys. sorry guys. but it's true. anyway, i'm mad at all you boys today as it is. *** sometimes i wonder if you start to dress a certain way and start to listen to certain music and start to hang out at certain places you don't actually build around yourself a certain sort of chosen, well. cage, perhaps. confinement. i never really used to worry about this. when it started, i just thought chuck taylors were really cool because they came in so many colors and the boys who wore them had rather nice hairdos. now, three long years later and with a lot of cds and thrift store connections, i wonder if it really is all something false after all. recently i said i felt fake a lot of the time, and i know it's true. not because i am trying to be something i'm not. at least not really, i don't think. i think it's because i hang out with a whole slew of people who try to be something they aren't. or, worse, they don't try to be anything. when i called my mum tonight, i found myself shouting into the receiver, asking her the dreaded rhetorical question, 'what's wrong with the youth of america?' and yeah, as with all things, it was in reference to boys. who, these days, seem to be divided neatly into two categories (at least in nebraska): 1. non-indies who have clean hair, nice shoes and goals goals goals. these boys do not want to go out with me. they like girl(space)friends. 2. indies who have hair last washed approx. 3 months ago, no g.e.d., no job, no car, no phone, no goals and just enough money for a bit of smack. these boys love me AND their bands. (there is a third, unmentionable place for people who go crazy, such as that boy i went to see in california, who recently broke into my email, deleted everything he'd ever sent me, and then sent me another email to tell me about it and ask for "marks for resourcefulness.") honestly, i may turn into dull paul and fake a little more, fake a little teeny interest in dave matthews band and steve maddens and maybe i can make the grade. hmm. scary. maybe not. *** in other news, seeing as i am no longer an official newspaperwoman and, actually, felt a little lost as a result, i am starting my own little paper. nothing too big or fancy considering i have almost no money, but something nice enough with music and art stories, as well as a featured interview and a poetry and fiction section in the back. we'll see how i do. secretly, i think i may only be doing it just to know my name will appear next to the title 'editor-in-chief' in a publication other than my illustrious high school newspaper, the burke beat. am i narcissistic? is that how the word is spelled? xo.lou. ===== www.somewhereinbetween.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: wherever you go...
by idleberry 02 Dec '03

02 Dec '03

Bapps story about telling some guy that Belle and Sebastian are his favourite band sort of reminded me of a similar scenario a few months ago. I was on a training course to learn Good Words, and the trainer decided to have an ice breaker session by asking us our names and our desert island disc. Sure enough, he went round the group, who were naming Beatles albums and John Lennon albums, and all those classic albums that seem to appear on regular classic shows on VH1, or in the sales in HMV. Then he got to me. It was Tigermilk, by Belle and Sebastian. "Aren't they quite old?" he asked, "From the 70's?". "Er, not really" "Ah right" he said, trying to reassert some credibility of knowing what I was talking about. "But they're quite heavy, aren't they?" he said. It struck me as a fairly odd thing to say about a band called Belle and Sebastian. I mean, sure, if they were called something like "The Murdersome Pagans", or "Suicidal Warriors" or something, then yeah, it'd be a reasonable assumption, I guess, if you're going on a name. But Belle? thats a girlie name. And Sebastian? Have you ever known any hard nut called Sebastian? They're named after a book, which was turned into a cartoon for christs sakes. Anyway, it made me giggle, and sort of wish he'd just move on and ask someone else their name and favourite album. Sort of reminds me of a posh bloke I once knew, who got nicknamed Alan, as in Alan Partridge, on account of his voice and dress sense. He kept calling Eminem "Eminie", which was vaguely amusing for a while. Sometimes I find it best not to mention B&S to anyone who comes across as being a bit straight laced. Sometimes its best just to shut up and discuss Wife Swap instead, or babies and marriage. Having said that, I'm not very good at the indie conversations either. I can't remember album titles or record tracks, let alone obscure indie pop trivia. Actually, I think the only thing I'm reasonably good at discussing is myself. Stuart "Big Stu" Gardiner said something about scoring points for things you see in the new DVD. That would possibly make an interesting drinking game. It might also end up in alcoholism, a hang over from hell, loss of friends from embarrassing acts, and serious liver damage, but hey, you can't have it all. love idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: don't let them bite you they've got rabies
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.org 02 Dec '03

02 Dec '03

i just broke up with a no good girlfriend who is obsessed with B&S and all things twee, and nothing else (i mean, twee is good and all but you're missing out on great things like THE DARKNESS) and was having a great time as a single boi. i had forgotten how nice it was to have loads of free time with out asking questions of divulging motives. she, the ex we shall call Silent Paula, never tells me anything when i call her and it was almost like not having a girlfriend at all. so on the 5th december, newly free and happy, i went to see belle and sebastian. it was wonderful, i can appreciate stevie's RAWK RIFFS now that there's no one to stop me playing air guitar when loneliness of the middle distance runner is on, as apparently I "ruin her style" while she bunny hops to the beats. So anyway I got a bit tired from all the moshing and so i retired to the bar, at which stood a pretty foxy ginger indie girl, incidentally also called Paula, let's call her Ginger Paula for now. She was telling me about how she once had a pretttty good holiday in Australia, "mmm all the hunks there" she told me. "Bet there are lots of studs in Oz!" I told her, "speaking of which my favourite tune must be Judy and the Dream of Horses" I told her. I'd have loved it more if it was better produced and all but you know the lo-fi stuff had its moments too! So that was when Silent Paula appeared and she was staring at me like a jab to the kidneys. I shuddered. It was scary! It gave me a rush of the blood to the head - like the Coldplay album, yeah THAT scary! Luckily she went away afterwards with a smile on her face, not that she would have talked to me anyway! She never does. At least she can smile now. All relieved I carried on chatting up Ginger Foxy Paula, just as slow graffiti begins, and later that night Ginger Paula sure loved my slow graffiti. does life get any better than this??? Ken (p.s. please do not take this post seriously please - i never pull) ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator(a)uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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