February 2003 - Sinister

Sinister: Fun! Thrills! Romance!
by Eric Brasure 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Dearest Sinister, I've been listening to a lot of B&S recently; it's like visiting with an old friend. That feeling of immediately slipping back into a comfortable relationship after having been apart for so long is precious. Also, I like them. I haven't written in aaaages, but I decided to because my three-year Sini-anniversary is coming up soon. Where has the time gone? I remember when you were just a wee thing (actually, I don't) and now you're almost grown up, ready to go out into the big wide world. Brings a tear to my eye, really. 'Course, it could be the tear gas from the militia outside. What do we want? A police state! When do we want it? When the government tells us! Still, I suppose things could be worse. I could be in New York, where they apparently have 2 FEET of snow at the moment. Makes it hard for the troops to keep an eye on us. I was asked out for coffee today by a boy that has hair on the tip of his nose. We all need love though, and besides that, he's not bad-looking. Bad teeth too, but that's endearing in a sort of Britain-of-the-1950s sort of way. I'm not desperate, really. I have a £20 gift certificate to spend at amazon.co.uk. I need suggestions on what to buy... please send them my way. If I choose one, you won't get anything. Unless you're a cute guy. Then you might get a kiss on the cheek. Okay, women too. This was crap. You won't hear from me for five more months, so don't worry. Lurrrrve, Eric +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Re: Re: Sinister: Being Basil
by Das Mädchen mit der Schere. 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Not that my opinion really matters, but I'll give it anyway: I'm all right with non-B&S related postings, provided that people aren't being vicious, which is hard to avoid when discussing politics. Passing comments, which can then be turned into debates OUTSIDE of the list, don't strike me as being a problem, but if we're going to have to read long posts about nothing but the war in the future, I'm registering my displeasure now. As Caitlin said, there are plenty of other places for that. There's always been a wide spectrum of what this list has been used for. B&S related stuff is always wonderful, but a lot of the "irrelevant" stuff is interesting, too. I love to see what else I have in common with the other Sinisters. And as anakin_sky pointed out, the band is never really forgotten. There's just not a lot to talk about right now. When Storytelling came out and Isobel left, the e-mails from this list were a nightmare to stay on top of for nearly two weeks. When something like that happens again, band-related postings will flood our inboxes. I'm not worried. Well, I've put my two cents in. Before I go, I'll ask a B&S related question to the entire list: What do you suppose the new album will sound like? Yes, I realize no one KNOWS, but make a guess. Personally, I think there will definitely be more Sarah vocals on it and probably more Stevie. I just hope his songs favor "Wandering Alone" as opposed "Chickfactor". The lower he sings, the better he sounds. Stuart, will of course write at least three fabulous songs which will become favorites with all the fans. This is a given. I feel a bit silly even writing it. On the other hand, nothing in life is guaranteed. -Holly -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Content, Content, Content (too may days worth > so long...)
by jim taylor 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

***** Early Tuesday: This has been lurking in my 'drafts' folder so long, its grown and is now in reverse-chronological order. If i didn't worry so much, it might have been a few shorter mails, rather than one big one. No 50 year old quotes this time. I'll quote myself at the bottom instead (2003). I'll avoid the almost tearful self-indulgent rant that i have an urge to splurge. (mmm an urge to splurge, i like that). Not that i hesitate to share my personal issues, far from it, i'd more likely be accused of being *too* open by friends or colleagues. It's just that as others have suggested, sometimes there are MORE important things than my ego-centric life. I half-seriously considered being a human shield this evening for a split-second. If i felt i didn't have a job that's of use to society, or a future more significant role when i complete my training, i might well have felt it the right thing to do, and gone to Baghdad. But that's very very very easy to say. It's harder to acknowledge that that would have been an easy way of getting myself out of a rut i've found myself in. ------------- ***** Sunday: 2nd attempt at sending the Time Out article B&S mention (at the bottom). I wrote this fri night/sat morning pre-UKdemo, and then thought long and hard about sending it. And then left it. And thought some more. Ta for the off list emails. (let's keep 'em there). I'm glad I haven't come to the conclusion i need to sensor myself in my expression of life experience as amongst the many things i am, a belle and sebastian fan, and all that that entails. If you feel this (or any) post is out of place, please let me/whoever know {off list}, but I feel comfortable by the nature of the responses I've had.... I'll only add i read with interest Mr P.Fox's experience of the day. We certainly don't 'give good demo' compared to the Italians or French, but to have a hardcore of activists who might make more of an organised racket diluted by a million plus, well, this is i suppose the entire point. It makes me think what it is to be British. What is my 'national character'? An unhelpful generalising stereotype, but interesting none the less. I'm also stimulated to reflect on my own grammatical laziness in email. what does that reflect? I flicked past a minute or two of stuff about the politicisation of fans by the Manic Street Preachers on TV the other day. It provoked me to wonder if B&S influence people in that way at all. I noted that Caitlin's suggestion implies that members of the band are 'deluded' for going on a demo. As was said to me yesterday, you don't have to agree with a band politically (or how to express/act on any common feeling). But it does interest me, this idea: when do you start/stop being 'into' someone/something for an 'extra-curricular' reason. It reminds me of hearing a US public radio recording of billy bragg doing the 'march of the covert battalions', acknowledging some of the crowd's sing-a-long would be dripping with irony. BB also noting that's what irony does. Drip, that is. Unfortunately Sinister meet ups in London were limited by the sheer logistics of getting anywhere, which was at least a very good reason. (+ there were less people to tut at me & Stefano wandering off for a break in the pub mid march. i guess maybe it was colder in Glasgee, but brrrrrr it "was a bit chilly around the old turntables" as Jimmy Saville allegedly once stated.) (who am i quoting?) I've just deleted an explanation about why i said what i said. It's obvious/repetitive. --- ***** FRI / SAT It's good to hear of sinister/B&S posses - including the band - getting together for demonstrations in different countries & continents. I won't repeat my take on what is appropriate (political) list content http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200209/msg00076.html , though I'd correct an earlier statement, and say B&S's politics *is* one of the reasons I'm a fan. It provokes me to re-consider what it is that draws me to this band, beyond the music. Why i'm on this list, what is it about B&S that draws a thoughtful type of fan? the fact that they have: Belle & Sebastian say "Not In Our Name Mr. Blair!" on the bands news page is something I'm happily comfortable in having come to expect. I find it fascinating, the inextricable link between the expressions of successful intelligent honest bands/musical movements and poltico-ethical awareness, whether it be Billie Holiday's 'Strange Fruit', non-fashion punk, The Smith's 'Meat is Murder', the Clash or Billy Bragg choosing not to make big bucks and sell their records at a fixed low price, etc etc. Artists sometimes express things others don't, provoke others into thinking, and have the sometimes have the media (as in medium-s) to express themselves effectively, as well as access to/influence upon the media. I've also been thinking again of the uniqueness of the B&S/Sinister community, and the trust between us, that for example meant not a 2nd thought to phone calls between strangers yesterday arranging to meet up for what Dean suggested he shouldn't refer to as a demo-nic (!) as that sounds, rather...sinister?!. There's a thing on Radio 4 at the moment about the spirituality of 'walking for peace' internally and externally, and the great traditions of this across cultures, ideologies and religions. The fact that I'll be spending today meeting folk from every race, religion, social and political background (as well as new to me sinister faces!) is exciting to me, and is a part of my life I'm proud of. I'm just really sorry it takes world-threatening events to force me to make the time to be pro-active and post to sinister (and more significantly I apologise for my verbosity in saying what I did). I suppose it reflects the things that draw us together as community, on various levels. Yesterdays UN events to me make today even more important. I'd like not to be paying so much attention to the news everyday, for it to dominate my thoughts less, and for my energies to be devoted towards nurturing inner peace, as my take on the world requires us all to do a little more of this. I'd like to have got in from work and thought of putting on a record rather than the news, but, I suppose this is a reality for all of our lives. ah well. do something pretty + all that. jim x -------- FRI (very early) Time Out London Feb 12-19 2003 Brit young things As the record industry gets set for another night of slurred speeches and showbiz scandal at the Brits, we asked some former participants: 'How was it for you?' "....At least people had heard of Stereo MC's. "Nobody had a clue who we were," laughs Mick Cooke of Scottish indie darlings Belle And Sebastian, who won Best Newcomer in 1999. The tabloids (which repeatedly described the band as a duo) got uptight that an 'unknown' had beaten Steps in the public email vote. "People said it was a scam, but there was nothing to stop people from multiple voting. It's just that Steps' fans probably couldn't use computers". Outraged, the Sun held a revote on a premium phone line and Steps were presented with an award when, inevitably, they won. Meanwhile, B&S had to get used to the media spotlight. Frontman Stuart Murdoch opened his door two days after the ceremony to find journalists camped outside. "We were gonna chuck it in the river at one point," remembers Cooke. "All the papers were saying we'd cheated and we were like 'Aw fuck, it doesn't mean that much to us.' But they quickly realised we weren't much of a story and ignored us just like before." Cooke was one of just two B&S members who went to the ceremony (the tickets cost £400), and he's glad he had the experience. "It was quite enjoyable while it lasted, but it was good to go back to normal again. I think if you couldn't turn that off, it would be pretty hellish." jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- "I find it a time of interest, when one picks up a pen and the words just spill out. They were clearly looking for an outlet, their chance to see the world, to breathe, perhaps feels their eyes stung by harsh light, yet are delivered without doubt." +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Mails discussing the list on the list
by Linda Kerr 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Hi everyone Hmm. Not sure how to approach this one, except to say that messages to sinister which discuss what can and cannot be discussed on sinister are generally a bad idea, and can and do lead to list implosion. Whoosh. There are 1349 people on this list, and therefore some tolerance is required if the posts are not to your current taste. If you think that the list is being abused, the please mail me, and not the list. I can look into it (I try to read all the posts but sometimes don't) and deal with it then. It is really up to Honey ultimately to manage the list - it has to be - but we try to have a list which most people want and care about, and where people feel safe to post without feeling intimidated. Discussion of non-B&S related topics happens. God knows it happens. :) The list has always been about B&S, the fans and their lives. If you haven't looked at this part of the FAQ, please do, if you can.. http://www.missprint.org/sinister/faq.html#rules Excerpt: "Try and remember this: it's a list for Belle and Sebastian but more importantly about the lives of People Who Listen To Belle And Sebastian...The list goes right when it's lively, funny, interesting, touching, and sometimes even useful. The list goes wrong when people post irrelevancies, not-so-funny "clever" quips, or long discussions take place which would be more suited to another list (like discussions of the relative merits of a band unrelated to B&S). I may step in if we get a long long conversation about something interesting to only a tiny minority of the list(.)" As it was pointed out by Lucy, the situation in Iraq is something Stuart Murdoch has written about on his web site, and it is such a huge international issue I think it would be daft if we did not to talk about it, particularly as it affects our lives. Of course, as with everything, personal flaming is not allowed on the list and as long as discussions do not change the nature of the list, the posts which are funny, or intelligent, or thought-provoking are to be greatly welcomed. As I said, if you think things are getting out of hand in whatever way, let me know. The FAQ is there for guidance. Peace and all that. Linda xxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Look at me, I'm on TV...
by Gardiner, Stuart 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

[This message edited on request from the author and Banchory Management] Well, as some of you may be aware, I spent two days last week in the company of a certain band. Sorry if anyone's jealous, I just got lucky... Anyway, here's some mammoth Reporting Back for you! Chapter 1: Thursday morning, 13th February. Way too early in the morning. The flight Katrina booked me onto left East Midlands airport at ten past seven. So I'm half asleep when I get to Glasgow and am introduced to Blair, who is producing the DVD. Still, it could be worse - Sarah's had no sleep at all on an overnight flight from New York. So we're both delighted to be filmed walking across the airport car park, and interviewed about our history of B&S fandom on the drive into town (well, once we've managed to find our way out of the car park at least). After coming out with some vaguely coherent answers, we get to the hotel in the middle of the city. Of course, it's still too early to get into our rooms, so a healthy (?) breakfast is called for, while we talk about what the next couple of days has in store; the first surprise comes when we are told that Stuart M wants to be interviewed in the bath... Our cameraman, Jim, and director, Blair, go out to film some background shots of the city, and Sarah & I head upstairs to relax. At about this time I start to feel a bit embarrassed about having under three pages of questions written down as preparation, whilst Sarah has printed off copies of every interview the band have done EVER. At lunchtime, Katrina turns up at the hotel, and we all go to get some sandwiches. Time to get down to business. We drive round to the band's rehearsal room, where Mick, Richard and Chris are trying out all sorts of technical stuff which I don't understand to get the demos of their new songs finished. We leave them to it. An hour or so late, Richard is finally finished and ready to be our first interviewee. Chapter 2: Thursday early afternoon - with Richard. The first interview is to take place in the front room of Blair's flat. The lights and cameras are set up, the three of us are miked up, and Katrina makes the tea. Well, it got her out of the office for the day, she may as well make herself useful. I won't bore you with all the technical details of filming an interview, suffice to say that Richard clearly knew what he was doing, and Sarah & I didn't have a clue. So we just did what we were told and let them get on with it. Richard is Mr Chatshow. Very comfortable being interviewed, and very good at it - we just asked an inane question and he's talk for a couple of minutes answering. He talked about his favourite B&S material (Tigermilk, because of the innocence and the way it was recorded in just 5 days) and his least favourite (If You're Feeling Sinister, because the sound wasn't what they wanted). He talked about the new material, and how optimistic he is about it. The band are taking a couple of weeks off now, before going down to Oxfordshire to start recording the new album. Earlier in the week they'd spent a day recording demos of the new songs, and apparently they're sounding great. Other answers were as expected (he enjoyed the night out at the Brits, he loves playing gigs, etc). Oh, and once the filming was over, he admitted off-camera that he does gurn on stage, mainly because he's trying to remember what comes next in the song. Overall, Richard was very friendly and chatty, and generally a ridiculously nice bloke. And his catchphrase seems to be "I'm only the drummer"... Chapter 3: Thursday late afternoon - with Stuart. One interview done, and we're already about two hours behind schedule. So we're in a bit of a rush to pick Stuart up from his house, drive him to our hotel, do the interview and get him back in time for his football game in the evening. And yes, he wants to be interviewed in the bath. The nicest bathroom available was in my hotel room, so we all piled in there to get set up. Lights, cameras, a TV monitor and lots of wires were installed in the bathroom, and we left Stuart to get ready. Sarah & I sat on the side of the bath behind him; our cameraman Jim filmed the three of us in the bathroom mirror, Blair was sat on the shelf monitoring the sound, and Katrina was also perched on the shelf filming with the small camera. So you can imagine how cramped it was. Of course, about ten minutes into the interview, room service turned up with some food and drinks for us all; with all the wires and talk of Stuart taking his clothes off that was coming out of the bathroom, we're sure she thought we were making a porn flick. Once we'd got our composure back, be got back to the questions, until Stuart had finished shaving. During the interview, Stuart was very open, he answered fully every question we put at him. He came across as very intelligent, articulate and thoughtful - - there may not have been a master-plan involved in the band's progress, but you can be sure each individual stage was thought through. He also thinks Tigermilk is his favourite B&S work, and he also mentioned Jonathan David as being a favourite; and he firmly believes the best is yet to come - they haven't yet made the album they're capable of. Maybe the new album will be the one, who knows? He wasn't happy with the sound of the IYFS album, and he told me later that he'd even considered re-recording some of it, but decided not to as it was a record of a time. In common with Richard and (as we later found out) pretty much everyone in the band, his favourite B&S experience was the gigs they played in Brazil, for the atmosphere, the size of the crowd, the travel, and the memories. The band all believe that the Latin countries are wonderful for playing gigs in, they all enjoy going to Spain to play as well. He's certainly happy that they're more organised now; part of the reason was that when playing to bigger crowds they felt they owed the fans a good show. There were tough times in the band for a couple of years, but they are much better now. I know there's people out there who see a band that has lost a couple of members, left their record label and not released much recently, and think the band are nearing the end of the line; well from talking to the band members and Stuart in particular, I'm certain now that their future is looking better than ever. Certainly he took the lead in getting the band together in the first place, pursuing people for weeks to persuade them to join. One thing where he doesn't take control is in the cover versions the band play on stage - he genuinely respects Stevie in particular for being able to play and sing so many songs, when Stuart can't even remember the words to ones he wrote himself. We could easily have spent a lot longer interviewing Stuart, he always had plenty to say. There wasn't time to talk about his faith, or to ask about the meanings of any of his songs (except for that "The Boy With The Arab Strap" and "Loneliness Of the Middle-Distance Runner" amongst others are about life in the band). Everything we asked he would answer fully and deeply. He comes across very much as a normal person, but thoughtful and fascinating to talk to. Chapter 3 and a half: Thursday evening. It was already 8pm by the time Stuart left my hotel room to get to his football game, which was quite a bit later than he said he had to be there - which just shows how accommodating he was. Having taken all the equipment down to the car, Sarah, Katrina and me went down to the hotel bar for a couple of pints and chat about everything from the band to international politics. Then a takeaway pizza, and off to catch up on a bit of sleep. Other little tit-bits of information that you may or may not be interested in: Ten minutes or so before each gig, Stuart likes to get the whole band together for a little talk. The pre-show ritual also seems to involve every band member going to the toilet. Not only is Stuart a vegetarian, but he also hasn't drunk alcohol for a year or so. No wonder he's in such good shape. In an attempt to prove that the band aren't twee, we asked Stuart to describe the band's most rock and roll moment. So he told us the story of when Stuart David tried to throw a CD player out of his hotel window. Unfortunately the window wouldn't open far enough so he didn't manage it. Aaah, bless. OK, that's enough for Day 1. I'll be back tomorrow with the second half! Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Happy Birthday MMM!
by Laura Llew 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

The other day I was trying to remember which one of my friends had bought her boyfriend a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance only to be shown up by one of her friends buying the boyfriend something a yillion times more expensive and grand. Then I realized it wasn't a friend - it was an episode of Will & Grace. Due to illness my cognitive processes aren't all they're cracked up to be (or rather they are all they've cracked up to be) so I won't try and make this a long post. However, I did want to send out public birthday greetings to Sinister's Beloved Minx - Miss Maddie who turns 24 today. Since I can't use my memory or good nature (what good nature?) as a resource I shall turn to my Wonder Woman Miss Maddie Minx quote book to find reasons wisdom from our own MMM. Church: "Oh, you shouldn't be going to Church. THere's no telling what kind of people you'll meet there." Christmas: "Why can't these people see that Christmas is not about gifts, it's about drinking and insulting one's blood relations?" Parents: "My mother is OK. She looks like my dad beat her up, but he would never do a thing like that... he's too busy working. Facial Features: "I'm so asymetrical I look like Phil Oakley's hair do." This is just an introduction because one day I plan to complete my collection, publish it, and make you all pay full price for it. However, don't worry because it will come with a free Minx Doll which will make the entire effort worthwhile. In other news: I didn't protest, I didn't see the Go Betweens, and I didn't see Camera Obscura while dancing beside Stuart Murdoch trying to slip a "valentines" in his pocket. However, I have been moping around being sickly while listening to Casiotones For The Painfully Alone wishing it was Belle & Sebastian's Rollercoaster Ride on but too lazy to change the CD so that must count for something. Love & birthday kisses, Laura _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Poorly
by Paulo Stinsoni 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Hello all, It's taken me three attempts to get to this compose window, and I'm missing the keys, and pressing two at a time and it's taking ages, all because I have flu. There are people a lot worse off than me all over the worldd, but I'm not going down that political path, oh no. I am just here begging for sympathy. I do get a little bit from my girlfriend (still haven't asked her to marry me yet - check out an old message, dunno which one, but it's stored somewhere in this magical sinister internetty world)), but I can see it's beginning to grate, with me tossing and turning and sweating and coughing and sneezing and wheezing. So, anyone out there in innernet land want to stroke me with their sympathy, feel free. I am a sympathy craving useless with a sore nose and an unshaven face. Go on, give me an "Ahh, never mind, you'll get well soon, you poor thing" Thanks Paulo _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons http://messenger.msn.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What is it good for?
by Lucy Alder 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Caity Pig, have you been at the Buckfast again? Stewpot Mudcock himself talks of marching. Look, its right here at the top of the News page: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ I put it to you, then, that talking about marching on this list is C*O*N*T*E*N*T, innit? So, anyway, for the first time since the heady days of the Criminal Justice Act (nee Bill), I dragged myself out of bed for a spot of protesting. Well, it was such a nice day, wasnt it? Jim will be pleased to hear that we managed a sinigroup of five: Nick Dastoor, Paul Field, Sally Moore, Ally Cook and myself. There may have been more, but it was hard to spot people you knew amongst the thousands - half way along we looked up the hill and all we could see was people, then down the hill and all we could see was people. I hope Rachel found some company I didnt read her email until this morning. The previous night, we went to see the lovely Camera Obscura at Hyndland Church Hall. I will now attempt a list of people who were there. I will inevitably miss somebody so if its you, I apologise in advance. Here goes: Lily Cook, Miss Sally Moore, Mr Paul Gingerfox, NumNal, Patrick Municipool, Ms Stacymite, Richard of Beckingham, IdleSecy, Quiff Richard, Mobile Matt, Starfire Dave, Michael G, Big Stu, Katrina, Sarah D, Mistopher Chris and Mrs Julia and, of course, the lovely Miss Carey Lander, who has miraculously transformed from the shy wee thing in this picture (http://www.missprint.org/sinister/people/CareySmile.html) into a vixtrel of stunnery in her red pencil skirt, lacy knee-highs and pointy polka dot shoes, wrinkling her forehead at us from behind her keyboards. And the King of Partick was magisterial. Those of you who like some content to fill out your sinisandwich might be interested to know that the following members of your favourite band were present: Sarah, Stuart, Stevie, Bob and Chris. Whoops, I just typed Christ by mistake. The music was great with lots of new songs and, as far as I know, nobody recording the loveliness (!!!) The restriction on the number of people was ridiculous but gave the thing a feel of exclusivity to those of us on the inside and there was crazy dancing in the aisles which I think was due to the Church Halls BYO rule, a sure-fire way to drink rather a lot, eh? In other news, what a surprise to see Steve Kado back! He remains the only Sinisterine I have ever dreamt about. I think this is the namedroppiest post I have ever written. Juicy Lucy ===== The one, the only Glasgow Indie List! http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/glasgow-indie/ ************************************************** The Winchester Club http://www.geocities.com/the_winchester_club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the clock turns and it's now
by R.Playforth＠sussex.ac.uk 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

I'm not sure that I've ever wished myself in Perth before, but I would have loved to see the Go-Betweens at the weekend. If any band can take a mind off impending war then it might be the Go-Betweens. Like Belle & Sebastian, it's music that can stir hearts and soothe souls. On Friday I walked home listening to B&S. The sun was shining, I was going to make risotto. The small pleasures seem so important these days. The sound of that sweet voice going 'laa lalala lalala lalalaalala' was enough to make me cry. I feel entirely entitled to mention this unwanted, terrifying war, incidentally - did anyone complain about 'list abuse' on Spetember 11th 2001? No. There are some things which - even here - are more important than B&S, for one day at least. 1.5 million people marched through London, along with many thousands more across the world, in the name of peace - why the hell should that go unmentioned? It's not just politics, it's our lives. Celebrating Valentine's Day felt slightly self-indulgent, considering. So the best tune for the day seemed to be Doris singing 'Did you give the world some love today baby'... I'm reading Hidden Agendas by John Pilger at the moment, a book to make you sad, angry, shocked at how little of the truth about the world we really get from our 'free' media. Read it. And, ok, I still fret about putting on weight and having no money, I still hanker after nice shoes and Belgian buns. I'm not scared that I won't see tomorrow. I feel happy and lucky most of the time and can, rightly or wrongly, forget. So I'm still remaking websites and still writing poetry and wanting other people to write too (see below). AND I'm still having a picnic in Brighton on Saturday 1st March, and you're still all invited to get pissed and eat fish and chips and paddle in the sea and inspect the collapsed remains of the West Pier. Please come! 'Love goes on anyway.' Archel xxx ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. Email submissions(a)buzzwords.ndo.co.uk +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Go Go Go-Betweens!
by terry underwear 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

hi, As Jeremy mentioned The Go-Betweens played in Perth on the weekend. They were simply stunning. Grant was looking as cute and charming as ever, and Robert is pure charisma and has the sexiest eyebrows in rock. They played a nice spread of songs from all of their old albums, and a few new ones too (the new album promises to be fantastic). Here is a jumbled up setlist with at least 5 songs missing: Caroline and I Ms Morgan Magic in Here Surfing Magazines Bye Bye Pride The Clock Was There Anything I Could Do? Spring Rain German Farmhouse The House the Jack Kerouac Built Head Full of Steam Cattle and Cane Love is a Sign And good news for all you Glaswegians, The GoBetweens are nexy playing in Glasgow on April 25. Go and see them! Thanks to my one true love's Amy and Alex, and to Jay for organising things. You are all dreamy. As is Gina (late presents are always the best!). take care, terry --- here's what i think: http://naivetysucceeds.blogspot.com caitlin and terry's sinister recipe tree archives: http://www.joannou.net/topofthestairs/sinifood/ _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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