May 2004 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Cliff and Sebastian
by idleberry 24 May '04

24 May '04

</de-lurk> Well hello my pretties I thought I�d come out of hiding for a moment and make a post. It feels like such a long time since my last one. In fact, it was. About 5 months ago, or so. You�ve not missed much from me. I split up with my boyfriend, and I got a promotion at work, and I�ve been drifting around that place called Bowlie, where I�ve discovered it�s far easier to upset them than it is to upset you. I hate to tell you kids, but you just aren�t twee enough. Must try harder. Go outside and flounce around in the flowers for a bit of revision. Especially you, Mark Casarotto. I think I had a dream about Ken Chu the other night, although I can�t remember what happened. It might have been worthwhile telling you about. Can I just say: CONGRATULATIONS TO PAUL �GINGERFOX� FIELD, WHO GOT MARRIED (I hope?) TODAY. AND TO THE NEW MRS FIELD. So, I presume you�ve all read this from nme.com? it was only a matter of time I suppose. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN's new single will spell an unlikely payday for CLIFF RICHARD . The Scottish indie veterans release the AA single 'Your Cover's Blown' / 'Wrapped Up In Books' on June 21 through Rough Trade. However, the band have owned up to 'Wrapped Up In Books'' similarity to 'In The Country' by Cliff Richard, and handed over 20% of the royalties from the track. http://www.nme.com/news/108587.htm I think Cliff Richard should do a cover of a B&S song. I haven�t actually thought this out properly though, and decided on which song he should cover. Mind you, that�ll teach them not to nick harmonies from an artist who isn�t dead. They should have stuck to Nick Drake. As usual, I�ve got bugger all anything interesting to say. Unusually, I am actually going to use this as a stop point, rather than ramble on forever. Love Idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains � Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love.
by Ben Lee 21 May '04

21 May '04

1. Spent a day in Malmö two weeks ago. Took a train across Øresund from København. Fantastic place. 2. Saw the trailer for Psalmer från köket. Looks very interesting. Have to wait until the local indie theatres pick it up, which is probably never. Come on, Camera Cinemas, get your act together. -B -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister(a)missprint.org [mailto:owner-sinister@missprint.org] On Behalf Of Astrid Wiezell Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:39 PM To: sinister(a)missprint.org Subject: Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love. Hey Sinister, A lot of people coming to Sweden it seems, well, ok, only Ian and Olivier, but still. Anyone else? Also, me and Mats watched two good films in two nights. Yesterday we watched The Pianist by Roman Polanski, with Adrien Brody who was really great, the whole movie was great actually. And then today, we watched Kitchen Stories, or Psalmer från Köket as it was called in Swedish, which was a great Norwegian film. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love.
by Astrid Wiezell 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hey Sinister, Hope you're all doing ok. Wrote a longer post before, which I was actually quite content with, until I pushed unknown button and IT ALL DISAPPEARED. Argh. Makes me a wee bit tired. Anyways. Am with boyfriend Mats in his hometown of Falun, which is three hours by train from Stockholm. His band High Heels is a great acoustic pop band, often leaning towards the melancholy side, and they are really a nice band - i've come up here to watch them play tomorrow on a one-day-festival. In any case, their website is: www.high-heels.xix.nu and you should all go there and download the song "We'll stay the same forever" off the demo with the same name. They sing in harmonies and have the cello and piano and sometimes trumpet, and acoustic guitar and bass and stuff and they RAWK! so, go there and download them. Kat, well, we are going to be on a compilation cd for a swedish website (www.blandband.nu) (translation = www.mixtape.nu) a Swedish nerdo site for music geeks, and there are so many people in bands there that it was decided to compile a cd with some of them. And so, we are going to be on it. And we're trying to record the wee lo-fi demo, it is going quite well, and now i will get the instruction book and it might go even better, ha ha. I have no technical skills what so ever. A lot of people coming to Sweden it seems, well, ok, only Ian and Olivier, but still. Anyone else? Also: Richard is one of the funniest people ever, and i wish he lived here so we could sit in cafés and drink coffee (well he could - i don't) and talk talk talk. He is one cool dude. Now, I'm soon going to go to bed and sleep, I'm just waiting for "my man". I have no idea to approach this people, what to call him when talking to people, or stuff. I don't know, I just go with the flow or whatever, and then I do say the odd thing now and again, but fuck it. He is lovely and amazes me with his talent (makes films, very musical person, takes beautiful pictures AND writes well, HELLO Astrid's low self-esteem, still weird pride about him has arose in me - two quite contradicting feelings but i think i like it) Did you lot know Kat is a drug? I got reminded by someone, but it turned out it was just like this African sort of tobacco or whatever that you chew, so it's not really the most offensive thing... she said until she stood there, waiting to get lynched by crazy right-wing people who claims i am drug liberal and therefore MUST DIE since i am making their kids go crazy for kat (the drug, not us). Hmm. Don't know where that came from. Also, me and Mats watched two good films in two nights. Yesterday we watched The Pianist by Roman Polanski, with Adrien Brody who was really great, the whole movie was great actually. And then today, we watched Kitchen Stories, or Psalmer från Köket as it was called in Swedish, which was a great Norwegian film. Anyways just wanted to say: *Kat's website is still: www.katsite.tk *Having someone to hold you at night was lovelier than I ever imagined it would be. *DOWNLOAD HIGH HEELS! www.high-heels.xix.nu *Richard: I will write you a long letter of reply on Monday! Don't fall asleep grading! *I SCORED BEST IN MY ENTIRE CLASS ON THE NATIONAL TESTS IN ENGLISH - ALL THREE PARTS! YES! AND I'M NOT EVEN A NATIVE SPEAKER LIKE MANY PEOPLE IN MY CLASS ARE! HAHA! Take care, hope to hear from many of you since I am quite positive I might actually love you all, Astrid x _________________________________________________________________ Auktioner: Tjäna en hacka på gamla prylar http://tradera.msn.se +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: exterminate all the brutes
by Dirty Vicar 20 May '04

20 May '04

hello there, I am going to begin with a bit of politics. If you are bored with such things, skip on to the end where my old friend and quaffing partner Mad King Ken tells us how he got on at B&S' recent concert in San Francisco. Like Mr Purple Trousers, I was interested by Big Stu's comments on Tibet. I can't claim to be an expert on the Tibetan situation, but I do think that his conclusions are based on some shaky assumptions: i) that Chinese rule has been good for Tibet This is at best debatable. In any case, my suspicion is that most Tibetans would rather be in charge of their own destiny rather than have to defer to some apparatchik appointed by the Beijing junta. ii) that it's alright to invade countries if they have regimes you find reprehensible. This is what we might call the Bush doctrine. Now, I'm not saying that a theocratic Tibet ruled by monks would be an ideal state, but the idea that mass-murderer Mao Zedong and his heirs are somehow fit to be lecturing other people on how to run their country is not overly convincing. iii) that it's alright to invade countries who have only been independent for forty years or less. My own country had been independent for less than forty years when China invaded Tibet, so I find this view rather objectionable. I do kind of agree, though, that there is a certain so-whatness to being in favour of a Free Tibet. The complicity of the West in Tibet's subjugation is fairly minimal, given that China is one of the few independent countries left outside the Anglo-American orbit. OK, so you could say that by trading with China we are assisting Tibet's occupation, but if you didn't trade with human rights abusing countries then you wouldn't trade with anyone. A comparison with the occupation of Palestine is instructive. The Israeli state is heavily bankrolled by the USA, allowing it to spend American tax dollars to kill Palestinian children. The UK and Germany lend Israel important diplomatic support. The EU generally has cravenly declined to invoke the human rights clauses of its trade treaty with Israel. So if you live in Europe or the USA then, thanks to your government, you (like me) are kind of complicit in the slow mass murder of Palestinians. This is not good. Moving along from politics, I was in London last weekend at Carsmile Steve's birthday and wedding anniversary party, where I had fun. I met MarkH who affected not to recognise me because my hair is a bit shaggy at the moment. I also met other people (like the Finefox) who seemed to know who I was. It's amazing how hot it is in London. Small wonder that Freikorperkultur is so popular, with people loafing around in half nothing. I also like the way you can buy magic mushrooms in shops on Oxford Street. That rocks. I've booked into a hotel or guesthouse or something in Glasgow for the B&S gig thing. Someone asserted to me that the place I am staying in is not very nice in some way, but I can't remember in what way. I hope I am not staying in the Hotel McStinko. OK, that's enough of that. Here is Mad King Ken on his concert: > say them play in the warfield last week. good gig although i was > standing in front of a really annoying 50+ drunk american hick who kept > shouting for the 'Boy with the Arab Strap' or to be precise ' Give us > the Strap' when he wasn't calling out for 'FreeBird'. he then went wild > when they played 'Sleep the clock around' and fell over bring down a > couple of friends who were with me. they need to enforce a higher > quality control of their audiance. This is all a bit "Stooges", if you ask me. bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: FW: Calling London
by robin stout 20 May '04

20 May '04

Hallo sinipops, It's leafy and green round here, and the flowers have unfurled and tickle my nose in the morning. This particular morning, as I ate breakfast, I found a pink pigeon perched on the apple tree outside my window. He looked exhausted. His feathers were in disarray and his moustache was drooping. I put down the Racing Post and invited him in for a cup of coffee (tea is still too much to bear), and he told me his story. He had flown all the way from Sweden, he said - yes, Sweden! "Well, your English is excellent", I said. "Oh, it's only pigeon English", said he. And, as his moustache began to perk up he told me he had a letter for all of you. "From Simon", he said, "You may remember him, and you should pay attention to what he says. He's a very important person. I've flown a long way for him, and I'd do it again." He dropped the leter on the table, and with a quick tip on Brassy Lad in the 3.30 at Chepstow he hopped, skipped and flew out of the window. I opened the letter; this is what it said: >----------- >The letter. >Subject: Calling London >------------ > >Hello Sinister! Remember me? I've actually been on the list for quite some >time, but the old address with which I once subscribed won't let me send, >only receive... so it's been awfully quiet from me I guess, though someone >might remember the old Sinister Village site (which actually still exists, >but is nowadays hardly visited - maybe it is now a ghost town?) which I >made for you. Oh, it's still at http://move.to/sinistervillage, but the >message board doesn't work :( > >So anywhoo, the point... I know I put it here somewhere... oh yes, I'm >leaving Gothenburg, Sweden for London this summer, for two months starting >sometime in the middle of June, and it would be really super to hook up >with some people. Especially since I don't know anyone in that awfully big >city of yours. I would love to just hang out, get to know the city, the >clubs, have a few too many beers... oh yeah and make some music maybe, and >record some songs, because I'm probably gonna bring the old laptop and some >instruments... > >Please mail me at simon.aurell(a)home.se. I'm really friendly and I won't >bite. > >Hugs everyone, >Simon _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Belle & Sebastian News Message - New Single and Video details!!! (fwd)
by Linda Kerr 19 May '04

19 May '04

No news of Rhoda in this one, sorry, Ken. All this choice is just so confusing! I'll have to buy them all... Linda xx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:49:41 +0000 From: Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist(a)belleandsebastian.com> Reply-To: "listmanager(a)banchory.net" <listmanager(a)banchory.net> To: "lulou(a)crockery.org" <lulou(a)crockery.org> Subject: Belle & Sebastian News Message - New Single and Video details!!! Hello all, After a hectic weekend finishing things in the studio, we can announce that Belle & Sebastian's new AA-side "Books" is to be released on June 21st in UK and Europe. It'll be available on three formats:- The Enhanced CD single will feature "Your Cover's Blown", "Wrapped Up In Books", "Your Secrets" and "Cover (Version)", as well as the video to "Wrapped Up In Books" and a Books computer game. The DVD single contains "Your Cover's Blown" (with cartoon gallery by Marc Baines), the video to "Wrapped Up In Books", plus "Your Secrets" and "Cover (Version)". Lastly, the 7" single will feature "Your Cover's Blown (edit)" and "Wrapped Up In Books". The video for "Wrapped Up In Books" was co-directed by Stuart and Blair Young, and stars Alex Klobouk (Germany's reknowned Catastrophe Waitress) and Gisela Hans. You can vote to get the video up the NME/MTV2 charts by visiting http://www.mtv2europe.com/mtv2europe.com/nmeChart.jhtml In other news, B&S have confirmed appearances at the Glastonbury and Benicassim festivals in the UK in June and Spain in August respectively. Also, Devendra Banhart has been confirmed as the opener for both the Somerset House shows, with The Shins playing as well. More info on all these shows can be found in the "On Tour" section of the website at http://www.belleandsebastian.com/tour.php We've made some more t-shirts recently: Sarah has a new 6 colour B&S logo which is printed onto navy unisex and light blue girlie tees, plus a cute wee enamel badge with a chicken and egg design on it, by our good friend Marc Baines. We're STILL waiting on the enamel mugs to arrive, but hopefully they, a new "Profiles" shirt, poster and special souvenir surpise item of merchandise will be available in time for the Glasgow Botanics show on June 12th. In any case, you can still purchase items online by visiting http://www.banchoryshop.net and clicking on B&S. That's it for now, get voting on the vid and we'll have more news for you soon! Cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.belleandsebastian.com http://www.banchoryshop.net http://www.wrappedupinbooks.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit http://www.belleandsebastian.com/mailing_list.php +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fw: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith (+Nick Drake stuff this saturday)
by jim taylor 19 May '04

19 May '04

I couldn't find Ian's E.S. obituary [forwarded at the bottom] in the archive, so I'm not sure if it ever got through last December? I wanted to read it again, having thought of Elliott Smith a bit recently, and thankfully found it in an old sent mail folder. His name keeps appearing in my inbox re: this London tribute to which I don't have time to contribute in the organising... there is a fund to donate to though: The Elliott Smith Memorial Fund - financial support for children who are victims of abuse. http://www.sweetadeline.net/esmf.html 888888888888888888 Since people seem to be interested: more Nick Drake stuff : This Saturday the BBC are really going for it- For those I guess mainly in the UK/able to get the digital TV channel BBC4, a film I've missed at various screenings and festivals for a few years now: NICK DRAKE: A SKIN TOO FEW Saturday 22 May 2004 10.55pm-11.45pm BBC 4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/music/features/nick-drake.shtml and on the radio + thus available to all online I presume (SEE I DON'T JUST THINK OF THINGS LONDON + UK :) 21:00-2200 Lost Boy: In Search of Nick Drake (presented by Brad Pitt!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/nickdrake/nickdrake_about. shtml So erm, set the videos, tape recorders. In fact if you have a DVDR and happen to be not using it and like doing random acts of kindness? Ok, maybe that *is* abusing the list... I probably shouldn't bore you with the fact there is a nick drake single out (yesterday) and album (next monday) worth getting of different stuff and one brand 'new' track. Jim x Ian's words on Elliott Smith follow, and deserve to be archived somewhere *I* think. I hope you don't disagree... (see below) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim taylor" <> To: <sinister(a)missprint.org> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:15 AM Subject: Fw: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith > So erm, this was quite fresh when Ian wrote it. I eventually asked him if > he'd mind me passing it on to you lot. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Anscombe" > To: <> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:36 PM > Subject: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith > > > > Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith, a tribute, of sorts. > > > > > > I never had all your albums. > > > > I never stood, shivering in the cold, outside Wolverhampton Civic, > > desperately hoping I'd be able to get in to meet you. I haven't done > > that in a while, since I met Kirsty Maccoll and it didn't go as planned. > > > > > > I couldn't quote the lyrics to all of your songs. > > > > But I'm sad, today. > > > > I want to turn round to the people in my office and ask them... 'isn't > > it terrible?'...'have you heard the news?'.... but they would look at me > > oddly and say 'who?' and go back to their own worlds, where other things > > matter more. > > > > A friend wrote to me, to talk about it. He said he'd taken you for > > granted while you were around. I had to agree. We'd been to see you, > > both of us, on separate occasions. Mine was at Glastonbury, in the year > > 2000. You were just about to make it big - or big in our terms, those > > strange, precious terms of those of us who like quiet, sensitive, > > beautifully strange music just a little bit too much. > > > > I don't remember what you wore. I assume I wore what I wore all weekend. > > I do remember, though, how the crowd went quiet towards the end as you > > stood, shyly, in front of us, performing slices of your life for our > > entertainment. I remember how the words of loss, loneliness and hope > > moved me and how I encountered unplaceable feelings as the words: > > > > Don't go home Angeline > > Stay with me > > Hanging around > > At the lost and found > > > > Swept out towards me, and into the evening outside, where a festival > > continued and, beyond that, into a world that lived oblivious to us. > > > > I had your albums on my shelf - below the ever-changing list of > > favourites - Mercury Rev, Belle and Sebastian, The Aislers Set, The > > Fieldmice, Galaxie 500 - you were there. If I didn't pay you enough > > attention it was only because the other distractions were so wonderful, > > so simultaneously happy-and-sad and achingly beautiful and warm that I > > couldn't let them go while the love affairs lasted. > > But I knew you were there. Sometimes, I'd come back to you, think I'd > > like to see you more, and then not do anything about it. > > > > > > I was shocked yesterday. You see some things coming - Kurt Cobain made a > > living out of sounding suicidal. Nina Simone had been dying slowly for > > years. It seemed better that she went than shuffled on in the deranged, > > bitter fashion she had adopted. Barry White made me smile, but he never > > moved me like you did, he was never one of 'mine'. Even pretty little > > Zac Foley wasn't such a blow - he'd always belonged to my friend Jo. She > > found him first, and kept him. > > > > But you were a little secret I had to myself. And I realise that's > > preposterous on one level - anyone who ever sat through 'Good Will > > Hunting' would have heard your songs - those and the sight of Matt Damon > > without clothes being the only things that could entice me to sit > > through it again. You were lauded in the music press, though some of > > them set you up to knock you down, but that's their way. You were > > compared to Nick Drake. I saw the comparsion. I didn't know you'd follow > > it through to its logical extreme. > > > > Part of me wants to say you're stupid. Part of me wants to say look at > > all the people who struggled to stay alive. Look at Kirsty Maccoll -who > > gave her life to save her child - who gave it for something important. > > And you threw yours away, or so it seems. > > > > Incidentally, I mentioned you when Kirsty died. It made me sad, she'd > > been a favourite once upon a time, but she'd already slipped away. or I > > had. I mentioned that you were one of my new friends, and I hadn't > > needed her any more. > > > > I can't say the same this time. So, I took you for granted, but that's > > what people do. That's how we live, and get through the days. We have > > too much to think about as it is. > > > > And you never would have noticed if I hadn't. I was just a blip on a > > sales chart. Nothing important. We only met the once, and I had to share > > you with several hundred people. > > We won't meet again, clearly, except when I play those songs, and think > > of how they made me feel, and how they could make me shiver, and bring > > a warm, happy sort of aloneness. > > > > So, I won't call you stupid, because I know that isn't true. You did > > something selfish, but, ultimately, that's your prerogative. I wish it > > hadn't happened this way. You felt different. You were a little boy who > > made it big and so many of us who watched you felt the little boys > > inside us smiling slightly as you grew. > > > > There will be a posthumous album. I'm guessing it will be your biggest > > yet. You should have stuck around, and seen it through. Now, we'll have > > to do it for you. > > > > > > I never had all your albums. > > > > I never stood, in the cold, outside Wolverhampton Civic. Ever since the > > day I embarrassed myself in front of Kirsty MacColl, I've been wary of > > meeting my heroes. > > > > I couldn't quote the lyrics to all of your songs. > > > > I never knew you. > > > > I'll miss you. Good luck, wherever you are. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > It still moves me to read Ian's words now. Not a lot you can say after that > is there? > > The only useful thing I might do is point people in the direction of a > favourite Australian singer-songwriter of mine, TIM OXLEY. If at least one > good thing could come of ES's death it might be it prompting me to bang on > about this guy in Sinister land. I immediately thought ES when I heard one > of TO's songs, and indeed he references ES (as well as Bonnie Prince Billy) > in his songs on the gorgeous 2002 album 'It's All About Love'. Which does > what it says on the label. > > I understand said CD to have received the ginger-fox seal of approval too. > > check the discussion boards through the Sweet Adeline ES website for tribute > events if they haven't already happened in you area. I'll try + post when > the London tribute event finally gets sorted out. > > Jim x > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: TEA CUP OF DOOM
by robin stout 18 May '04

18 May '04

Hullo: I made a cup of tea the other day, and accidentally spooned a heap of salt into it instead of sugar. Now I can't let my lips touch a cup of the life-giving liquid without the memory of the horrible taste running up my tongue and flapping in my brain like a pigeon up a chimney. It's horrible. I really don't know what to do. Possibly I shall die of thirst. Does anyone know what happened to Rhoda in the end? Struan made a competition a while ago for us, the general biscuit nibbling, elbow-patch wearing public to record our own versions, saying the winner would be released as a b-side to a single. Was this just a lie? If not, did Ken win? If not, why not? EH? Whose legs are these? I'm rather tempted to send him a recording of me playing Rhoda on my slide trombone. He would love that. I could do some fancy slides to liven it up a bit when it gets boring, like that verse about cornflakes. Slides on my trombone, I mean, not on a slide projector, although that would liven it up too, especially if they were slides of people's bottoms. I could also do funny noises on my trombone that sound like people blowing off. To accompany the slides of people's bottoms, perhaps? That would make it loads more fun. I reckon Struan would love it. Robin xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: don't leave the light that never goes out on baby
by Kenneth P Y Chu 18 May '04

18 May '04

Hey there sinisters, How are you all? I see you guys have been busy! With all of your travellings to tibet and nepal and planning trips to england and sheffield picnics and things! Me? I travelled all the way to Highbury Fields the other day, from Holloway Road, it was like 2 miles from my house dude. It wasn't very important that i tell you these, but I tell you anyways. I got very drunk that night and then I had to walk through the park, and i was falling asleep and so I put on my iPod and listened to IYFS all the way home, and I even sang Like Dylan In The Movies out loud when I was walking through the park. And some guy heard me singing it and BEAT THE SHIT out of me! It fucking hurt. So please stuart next time when you give warnings about not looking back when walking to the park, please also included warnings about singing along to the song that is warning about me walking through a park? On your own, if they follow you don't look back like dylan in the movies on your own, if they follow you by the way if you sing along to this then you are through! oooooopps too late sorry ken chu. (notice the amazing rhyming there - i was listening to The Streets just earlier and I think I've caught the rhyme) In other news, the beepy bits of the start of "I'm a cuckoo" was featured briefly on "changing rooms" of BBC1. Nice. Ken _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tibet, London, Glasto, Nick Drake & Elliott Smith Tributes, love and B&S.
by jim taylor 16 May '04

16 May '04

Ok so I've bitten my hands long enough. I've decided to respond to big stu's Tibet/china thing. Last night at Carsmiles 30th (props to the London massive who showed there faces, simply too many for me to start to mention without missing some out) someone mentioned it, and I couldn't help chuck in my twopenneth. I said to others I greatly respected Stu's braveness to stand against the tide/go against the grain. I wish more of us would do this. But strongly disagreed with stuff the Chinese Government want us to believe. I perhaps shouldn't have been surprised at how strongly others I spoke to also disagreed with Big Stu. It's really odd to be reeling (well, hopefully creatively responding rather than reacting) against - i my opinion - indoctrination form a Government other than the US or UK. But first off Happy 30th Birthday + Wedding Anniversary to Mr+Mrs Carsmile/Steve. welcome to your thirties Steve. It's not so bad see? And only 6 weeks to Glastonbury! It sounds like I might be joined in the Buddhafield tent by a sinister-bod other than the one I bump into at the London Buddhist Centre. That B&S+Buddhism yahoo subgroup really isn't so far away :) I'm not sure there will be sinister-group shamanic journeying at glasto though will there? Check out Dharmarucci if anybody fancies it in the greenfields. For those unhappily without tickets I can only offer my empathy, together with gratitude to Ian Anscombe for the tip that enabled me to get mine. Next year sounds like it'll literally be a lottery. For those with no interest in Glastonbury, you *might* not know what your are missing. And B&S are playing. Talking of favoured artists, a little bird by the name of, well the man himself, tells me that the parish's very own Stefano Santabarbara will be an honoured performing guest at the Nick Drake Tribute event this summer. It's free, and marks the 30th anniversary of Nick's death. 21/8/04 Tanworth-in- Arden, Warwickshire. I know loads of us are big Nick Drake fans, so thought you might like to know this. details so far are at http://www.geocities.com/ndtg2004/index.htm Might I suggest the likes of The Pines, the Foxgloves or our very own Chris Leonard form North of the border might offer their services too, should they be so inclined? Indeed perhaps I might finally get to hear the Red-bull dozers for the first time (if I remember the name right mr Chu?) well anyway. If any of said performers need a nearby place to rest their heads I might be able to help out chez the parents, though I'll be zipping off back down South to see the Pixies at big corporate festival the following day. (any Brixton tix spare anyone?) Also the Elliot Smith London Tribute show is I understand coming along in its planning stages. I'll post whenever there is some concrete news. Some folks are working really hard to make this happen so support when it does (for charidee of course, will be more than essential please!) and if you happen to be in a band called Belle & Sebastian and want to play at it, I'd imagine it'd be worth contacting the organisers through the yahoo group. erm...whose details I can pass on. Tibet. it's off topic? well no actually, for me it's not. I've written and referenced the importance of politics to B&S themselves, their fans/lifestyle, etc etc, I won't reference myself again, but search the archives, read, then e me off list if you disagree. *please*. I'd much rather be challenged that anyone harbour resentment. I'm not going to go over Stu's points one buy one, as I'd spend longer than you or I have doing that. Instead I'll provide this link as a starting place, which it's unlikely you'll choose to click on... http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/home.html it really is hard to know where to start with stuff Stu said. I'm not in Tibet. He is/was. I suppose I'll have been present at testimonies of torture in Tibet during my Amnesty International Days c1992-1996 at Uni, read a wee bit, been a member of Free Tibet for a year or two and then having been drawn to eastern philosophies, and been involved in Buddhist centres etc for a few years [to the point that when someone asks me if I'm a Buddhist, I finally am answering yes] it's natural I take a bit of an interest. I also believe there are others on-list probably better informed than me. I'll avoid the Tibet/Buddhism history rant as well. I'm not a Tibetan Buddhist (I'm more pic'n'mix FWBO for anybody that cares) but I have friends who are. It is fair to say Tibet compared to Nepal locally, or many many many other states worldwide, might be over-represented in the amount of activism done in its name overseas, BUT it is reasonably unique in it's frequently non-violent (and thus primarily unsuccessful) defence of itself in so many ways. That for me is why others get involved. If only the US & UK answered calls from pressure groups to reward peaceful activism/opposition instead of or in unison with wielding the big stick, they might have got a lot more respect/support for the anti-terror campaign. I won't use the word 'war' in that context. it's too silly. Safe to say I strongly disagree with a significant amount of what Stu says, to the point that I'm genuinely surprised to read some of it. 'Nuff said. As Bucks Fizz didn't say, make your own minds up. For once I have more 'real' content. I've said to a few people how I've come to the conclusion that I've maybe never really forgiven B&S for stopping being B&S circa 1996/1997. I've said to people that the friends I've made through Sinister are even more important to me than the band. Certainly Sinister has probably kept alive an interest in a band that might have otherwise waned at times. Many people have understood this, yet said DCW has swung them back to our heroes, and I think whilst my swingometer took a while to warm up, I'm glad to say I'm more excited to see them than I have been in many many years. The Saturday seems to be the Somerset House gig people I know are going to. (usual apologies for London-centricity). Will be m'ladys first B&S experience which will be exciting for us, as Glasgow is looking increasingly unlikely which grates rather. Rather than being Grate. Free gig. mmmm. It's an odd one, not being able to let go of an era of a band that you loved so much, to the extent you probably don't objectively enjoy newer material as much as you might, as if you'd discovered them around that later time. I guess it is a sign of just *how* much I liked/loved/adored b&s then. this isn't meant to be the indie snobbery I'm sure it reads as. maybe it's me owning that a little bit? I know I've spoken to many current/ex-sinister types who can relate to at least part of what I'm trying to say. I've never felt like wading in to discussion of new material and moaning its not what I want from them, harping on about the moment I heard the state I'm in on Peel's Festive 50, etc etc. I do know what I'm like(!) Maybe part of the resurgence of interest is because I can relate to the opening lines of 'If you find yourself caught in love'. That always makes things interesting doesn't it? I'm actually a bit excited about a release too. An indie funk Bohemian Rhapsody? Next I'll start begging to fill the myriad of gaps in my not owning lots of unreleased stuff. (not very subliminal warning to people that know me). It certainly is a delight to be able to lend the complete works of Belle & Sebastian to a virgin (not virgin radio [I think] ) listener and share in their enthusiasm after early listens to TM & IYFS. I look forward to re/discovering some of the later stuff that I didn't allow myself to get into, quite as much as I might have. Yours unapologetically (for the politics) jim x PS http://www.boycottmadeinchina.org/ I never got let into a premier oils shareholders meeting to kick off about their stuff in Burma (they conveniently didn't process stuff in time) but it is a bit satisfying when activism actually works, and companies like Premier Oils have to listen to shamed major shareholders. I don't do as much as I should these days, stuff like Oxfam + Friends of the Earth's email campaigns are pretty easy ways to email/fax your MP/MEP etc) , but I'm not going to apologise for a considered view that happens to coincide with a 'liberal majority'. PPS I do appreciate the irony of the fact that as 'she' (m'lady) is flying to China as I speak, it's pretty likely I'll be owning a small gift that was indeed made in China soon (!) A bit like my boycott of the Israeli Tivali vegetarian foods, then buying a US made veggie-bacon thing instead! It's not easy is it! http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/boycotts/boycotts_list.htm oh and while your at it http://www.boycottbush.net/consumers.htm I think it's ok to go to the park and kick a ball though. well, maybe that depends where you buy your ball ;) is there anybody else I can upset? probably, I better not go on. I see Michael Moore is battling shareholders of US film companies etc to get a release for his new film. Good-oh! did I just hear a Pinefox rustle in the distance, or was that my imagination? thank you for indulging me. back to the wilderness. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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