David Hewitt said:
>They all seem to come back eventually anyway. If
>you don't, you probably weren't ever really here.
hi there sinister, long time no see
its taken me about two years but i've returned.
i've even bought the new album and i have to say i like it. it seems nasty
to say that i'm
glad its just struan (do we still call him that?) doing the songwriting, i
like the others'
songs but my idea of a proper B&S album is his voice singing his songs.
how are you all doing then? i'm just great, my life has changed dramatically
since you last
saw me. i'm no longer unemployed and living with my parents, i'm studying
towards an HND in
newspaper design and infographics, i'm doing occational freelance design
work and photography
and i'm living in a lovely house in newcastle with some good friends.
and i'm much happier.
wasn't glastonbury hot? sorry i didn't find you mr carsmile but there was
just so much to do,
i was in the same field we camped in in 2002 but a little further down the
hill.
nice to see you all again, write soon,
chris*
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Hello...
Have you ever had that feeling that sometimes it's nice to have an old
friend who you know is never going to change, no matter what happens?
Someone you can depend on, almost take for granted. It's a bit like
pitchforkmedia, how reassuringly they write reviews that brings a smile to
my face, enlightening me in such a way that is rivalled only by the likes of
say, the Duke of Edinburgh.
> Ironically, with a new-found ability to rectify their once at-odds
> musical interests, Belle & Sebastian have emerged as shiny happy people,
> becoming that of which they were always falsely accused: t*ee
I like the notion that being happy = t*ee as well, did they not know that
t*eeness is an affectation?
What Kate of C said in her email made sense to me somewhat (I could well
have totally misunderstood though). I guess it's not quite as COOL to be a
B&S fan anymore because if someone asks you what they're like you can't say
something like "oh they make really good folky songs about being bullied in
school and stuff man", now you have to like, say "oh they have some pretty
good songs in quite a few different music styles and about lots of things".
It's just not as CATCHY.
Critics probably call this "losing direction". I dunno, though. As long as
there are the songs still with the flowing melody and witty lyrics I'm
happy, whether I know what they had for breakfast or not.
If you want to be cool nowadays you better be a RED BULL DOZERS fan.
Guarenteed to help you pull. The myth, the shambolic performances, the lack
of exposure to the press, it's got the lot, wow. AND they do madonna
covers.
Adrian Evans said:
> I have to say that there does seem to be a twee siege mentality going on
> around here. I personally think DICKWARTS is fantastic ... The louder the
> > better - can't wait for the first Iron Maiden cover version.
That's one already - The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner
http://www.lyricsxp.com/lyrics/t/the_loneliness_of_the_long_distance_runner_
iron_ma.html
Paul Arathoon said:
> Which got me thinking- whatever happened to the sinister village?
> For those too young to remember it was a virtual village which featured
> members of Sinister. It was probably crap...
I just checked and the site's still there!
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-63235/sinister/
Aw, back in the days. Look! It's even called itself "A Twee Community",
it'd be frowned upon these days.
Dictionary.com is fantastic, their Word of the Day on 28th Sept is
"TITIVATE"
haha
> It's easy to laugh at a book in which the heroine's husband
> says to her, "You look beautiful," and then adds, "So stop
> titivating yourself."
> --Joyce Cohen, review of To Be the Best, by Barbara Taylor
> Bradford, [1]New York Times, July 31, 1988
If I ever get married that's what I'm gonna tell my wife. Or maybe "So
start Titivating yourself".
Finally, rrrobyn said:
>> i don't have:
>> a b&s ticket for toronto. c'est trop cher pour moi. triste stuff.
>> a whole bunch of new albums that i'd really like to have.
>> a boyfriend.
Single sinister boys in Toronto with a spare B&S ticket and lots of record
store vouchers, here's your chance!
Ken
P.S.: If you still haven't send in your tape for the SINISTER NAMESAKES
MIXTAPE CHALLENGE, it's not too late! Especially if your name is robyn, or
robin, or robert. THE RACHELS have already handing theirs in, you know.
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hi to all on this list. i am a long time lurker like many others here (i know a few of you here from another list of years ago called 'popjourno').
i bring you all strong ozarks and oklahoma prairie full moon energy that has percolated all week long, imagine good, organic, local food, beautiful people from newborns to crones, bright stars, fantastic clouds, the waxing moon, fire circles with appalachian, celtic, and korean instruments, hippie sisters rapping to a single drum and dancing the caber to a lowland pipe~
fields of pumpkins, horses with a wise knowing look in their eyes, sweat lodge fire, and sweating/chanting/praying to six directions, finally stumbling out of the 'sipapu', hardly any more able to stand that as if a newborn baby~
little treats like wild mushroom soup, pear trees spilling at the side of a lane. the thick somber pleasure of introspection while staring into the embers, under the midnight velvet of the heavens,
the full body of the ancient earth revealing herself~
all this bracketed by the little city of tulsa before and after: the cycle of the retro dance floor, the court of crushes, the cycle of the poetry reading with it's spectrum of trash to vision, the cycle of the meditation circle~
may you all celebrate this most ripe moon in wonderful ways in your own hoods and lands!
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You young whippersnappers you.
I remember lying in my bedroom, back in 198? and listening to “This Charming
Man”. It was the first Smiths song I’d ever heard, and Johnny Marr’s guitar
twinkled on the tops of the pretty little notes, Morrisey whined his grass
roots lyrics intertwined with teenage angst while all the time Mike Joyce
(or was it Andy Rourke? – I can’t remember now) created a rolling bass line
on which the guitar and voice sailed upon. I was a devoted Smiths fan from
then. I took to wearing granddad shirts untucked, and flowers in my back
pocket. I longed for some National Health specs (I did eventually get some)
and oscillated wildly at "What Difference Does it make".
I looked a right climpy.
Others thought so too. I was bullied and persecuted for my "faith". We (my
buddies and me) were hounded by groups of punks (punks in the mid eighties?
They just donÂ’t know when to stop, probly all that smack has addled their
minds) skinheads, and people of no noticeable musical faith (God knows why
*they* bothered). I argued Morrissey's lyrics were ironic and funny, not
miserable – oh those fools. What I’m trying to say was I suffered for their
art. I was/am a devoted fan.
And now, 20 years later I hear you youngsters talking about those Smiths
songs, and how wonderful they were. Well you canÂ’t have them. I suffered.
I lived through it and they belong to me, and anyone else who lived through
that musical era. Get your own music to suffer for.
There, now go ahead and tell me to get lost cos music is for everyone etc
etc.
Paulo
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people,
i just wrote this for Comes with a Smile (www.comeswithasmile.com) and
anyone here with time to waste:
---
Belle & Sebastian – Dear Catastrophe Waitress (Rough Trade)
Heroes to many, a sad joke to others, Belle & Sebastian can inspire
both obsession and disgust from various quarters. That may be changing,
however, as 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress' sees the band shedding their
middle-class, intellectual-only, folk image. In its place, these 12
tracks bring an all-new Belle & Sebastian: poppy, polished, confident,
realised and accessible. Step Into My Office, Baby is a cheeky and
playful opener, If She Wants Me is a light and fluffy sing-along, I'm A
Cuckoo is a blatant Thin Lizzy tribute and the closing track, Stay
Loose, would have been a sure-fire hit in the 80s. Though the band
denies Trevor Horn has heavily influenced their sound, much can be read
into their unflinching willingness to employ him in the first place.
For those old school fans currently despairing in their bedrooms, there
are a few (yes, just a few) tasty treats on offer. The almost-lost gem,
Lord Anthony, has thankfully been revived and will now stand alongside
countless early E.P. and album tracks as a classic. Piazza, New York
Catcher is a Donovan-esque acoustic song of sexual confusion and books
– things that made 'old' songs so great. However, they do feel like
something of a cop-out by Stuart Murdoch. For such an otherwise-radical
album, these 'traditional' tracks somehow feel out of place.
Those who have remained loyal will probably feel disappointed upon the
first few listens and the album does have some 'grower' potential. But
whilst there are encouraging signs (Sarah Martin's blossoming voice,
Trevor Horn not destroying the band completely, Stuart Murdoch reigning
in songwriting controls) sparks of genius are few and far between –
especially considering this is Belle & Sebastian's longest album to
date. Overall, 'Dear Catastrophe Waitress' is a sweeping change – too
drastic for many – to something almost completely unrecognisable as
that shy, retiring group from Glasgow.
---
i also stumbled across rolling stone's review of dcw at
http://www.americanmary.com/press/thenational_ssfdl_RS934_ltr.jpg .
the national's album next to it is very good by the way.
two posts in a month. i must be unemployed or something...
c.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/arts/music/12ROSE.html?ex=1066972553&ei=1…
glad to see struan sporting the mets gear. my only memory of shea stadium (when i was 9)
was wanting to Leave Please Soon Please? i myself have no love for the baseball.
xo,
ree
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a while back, keith watson spake thus:
> Glad to hear everyone's enjoying the new LP, "magical pop confection" that
> it apparently is; I haven't heard it yet cause it's not out yet but I'm sure
> I will enjoy it when it does come out. Does anyone have the DVD yet or does
> that take too long to download?
ouch! that smarted. so i refused to listen to the promo copy that had dropped in my
boyfriend's lap, waiting instead for the actual release.
on tuesday, october 7 (exactly five years and two days after kimmy first slipped me a
taped copy of IYFS and TBWTAS, which i listened to on the way to a liz phair show),
christiaan waltzed into borders (the original borders, mind you) and paid the
astronomical price of $16.99 for the new album. this is the first b&s album i haven't
bought. but you know, i still own it. jointly. anyway.
i listened to it while cleaning house the other night. tuesday night. it was alright.
but then.
today, i grabbed it on my way out to drive to the grocery store. and it hit me. you
have to be Driving A Car to fall in love with this album. it's even better if you're
driving down back roads in michigan with the amazing colors of turning leaves around you.
i realized, this is the best fucking belle & sebastian album EVER. i love every song.
i am fucking thrilled. i was so fucking thrilled that i drove past the grocery store and
hit said back roads, driving and driving, just to be driving with the window down and
stuart serenading me through the speakers.
it's like the best 60s/70s pop with better lyrics. but with sweet old skool b&s moments.
it's like the best of everything. and stuart is Sassy, damn.
note: i like how he pronounces "thin lizzy" like "thin lezzy" -- or so it sounds to me.
keep the faith,
ree
xo.
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Hey all,
Greetings from PA Dutch country, where it's hard to be a B&S fan considering
that the cows don't have very good taste in general. It's almost criminally
pleasant outside today, and all the students are playing frisbee or field
hockey. There's a lot of picnics happening here at the school too, people
with Etown College plates and slight beer guts eating catered food and
pretending to like each other. Good times, good times.
My friend wants to play "I'm a Cuckoo" on his radio show tonight. Sadly
this means I'll have to temporarily part with my copy of DCW, which has
become an added appendage for me as of late. I think I'll be ok though, as
the only chance I'll have to listen to it between now and tomorrow afternoon
is after church, and "Step Into My Office, Baby" doesn't work too well up
against all the church stuff. Although I might try to get a slightly
modified "If You Find Yourself..." into the service at some point hehe...
So I stayed up really late last nite talking to my art major friend about
nothing in particular, biding my time, drinking her cider. Well, sampling
anyway. And it was real nice, kept me awake until the fire alarm went off
in our dorm at 3:00 AM, probably due to a bizarre fire extinguisher fight
accident. Funny how things work out pleasantly like that sometimes.
And that's all I've got to say. Did I do ok for my first post? I feel so
grown up and stuff. I'll be representing at the Tower Theatre show next
month, say hi if you're in town. Peace~
Brian
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The girl on the cover of the new album is so damn
cute. If anyone has any information about how I could
reach her and possibly buy her sushi, please forward
it on.
Thanks,
John
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Belle and Sebastian to Sinister-kids, they were our history, our possiblilty. Dare I say, Our J-Lo.
Think about the questions most of us ask a new interest at the bar, at the party or at the library. "So...What do you listen to??" Hopeful waiting then..."Pretty much everthing. But not Country, or Techno." How many times have I gotten that answer just to be a little disappointed. But maybe thats because they are stronger people.
I always put that answer off as, oh, this cat doesn't dig the way I do, they don't put effort into the little stuff...they aren't nearly as interesting. But, Sinister, dare I say they might not need to dig the way you and I do??
Maybe thats why you don't like B&S the way you used to. They don't carry that same meaning, same despair that matches what you felt last week. Last time the pockets of your duffle coat were weighted with medication. Maybe this different sound doesn't say the same thing it used to. And you don't have to dig anymore.
We are all comfortable with OLD Belle and Sebastian, we love them, thats why we are here. Get to know new Belle and maybe you'll see them in a new way.
Digging for that hidden gold is nice and all, when you find it its beautiful and new and you shine it up and show your friends or hide in in your purse if you're selfish. But while you are in the shaft, you are missing all the pretty colors on the trees outside. If we get comfortable with who we are and don't dig to cover ourselves from the outside, maybe new belle and sebastian will be just as beautiful as that hidden treasure we found so many years ago.
I adore you, Sinister
Kate of C
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