The Duke, usually a man of infinite wisdom, wrote:
> one of the biggest things i hated about scotland, and the one maybe most
to
> blame for making me move was the nationalist fervour inherent in too many
of
> the people.
I'm surprised to hear this. I was lucky enough to be over in Edinburgh for
the Festival last year, and the Referendum for Devolution was on at the
time. I couldn't get over how many people weren't interested at all, or how
many people were saying on the telly that they were voting no because they
might have to pay an extra penny in the pound tax for a parliament. A small
price to pay for having your own say, I would have thought.
> nationalism is a dreadful trait to have...
Only if it's at the expense of others, I'm very proud to be Irish, I even
try and speak the (dying) native language from time to time. But this does
not make me anti-English. I most certainly am not. I love the place, love
the bands, love the TV, love the football. Being proud of where you're from
doesn't mean that you're a terrorist or a hooligan or whatever.
> I hate the world cup not because i have little interest in soccer but
because of the > dreadful attitudes it brings out in people, and because
it encourages those
> nationalist tendencies in the youth, who by rights we should be educating
to
> be more tolerant
The only "dreadful attitudes" I've seen have been from a couple of hundred
NF tossers. This shouldn't be allowed to ruin the rest of the tournament.
To me the last week has been a celebration of different cultures. The most
wonderful sight of the world cup has been Nigeria stuffing Spain despite
their "defensive naivety" (thank you Ron, Kevin, etc). Why shouldn't those
people feel proud of what their countrymen had done against the odds? It
was the same for me when Ireland beat Italy in the last World Cup. Sure we
were terrible to watch, and half the team were Anglos anyway, but I still
felt as proud as hell and it didn't inspire me to go out and smash some
windows. I was in Italy at the time, and all the Italians came over and
shook our hands after the game.
Having said all that, I can understand part of what The Duke is trying to
say. Nationalism in the "Our country is better than yours" sense can be
pretty ugly stuff, I wouldn't like to give the impression that I'm in favour
of that kind of thing.
Sorry if this has bored the arse off you all. I did have to read about
Dangermouse for a week though.
Ronandinho.
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i'm really tired, but if i don't pound this out now i probably never will.
so i was driving to work tonight at around six o'clock, speeding through the
fairfax district as i usually do, when i came to a stoplight. i sat at the
light for a bit, then decided to put on sinister. so i pulled it out of my
cd case, and took out the other cd that was in my stereo. i looked up and
saw the light turn green, then looked down to get the cd in the player,
meanwhile accelerating without looking in front of me. needless to say, the
next sound to be heard was SLAM. damn. so i pulled over into the vons and
got out and we checked out the damage. the guy i hit was really nice, and
his car ( jaguar, ouch.) looked fine and all. my front bumper got majorly
cracked, but its still on their, so i'm not going to worry about it. so
anyway. the guy didn't even want my contact information and told me not to
worry about it. being that i totaled my car in january, i was glad my
insurance wasn't to be contacted. so anyway, the point is, belle and
sebastian *should* be sorry for all the trouble they've caused. i got a
messed up car to prove it.
my night wasn't ruined though. queen latifah was in the store signing
autographs and i got my picture taken with her and told her that i wished to
bear her children. she said she liked my t-shirt and that it was the best
compliment she got all day. the picture turned out blurry, but according to
ms. latifah, i should be knocked up and having her first born in only five
minutes and two years. not too shabby.
what else happened today... um, i got a spiffy polaroid camera. its really
excellent. i took some pictures of the winchels donuts and this church down
the street from my apartment. when i was taking a picture of the church some
old woman told me it was going to be a beautiful picture and that the church
was seventy-five years old. welp. that's about it for one day. worked
seventeen hours. took some pictures. crashed my car. hugged queen latifah.
oh yeah, and i got the new delgados cd. its super. anyway, that's enough for
one day.
-mr kelly ryan mcguire
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Hey Jon!
I like the way you think, especially the kids' tv stuff, so, to
keep your mind off your other obsession until the new album comes
out, here is a question. Can you remember all the theme tunes to
Henry's Cat? We were playing a game the other night where someone had
to hum a tv theme and the others had to guess what it was ( what a
crazy, post-exam life I lead), and before they all started to sound
like the theme to Miss Marple and after we'd done all the Grange Hill
themes we could remember we came to Henry's Cat. Everyone knows the "
So if you know someone who knows what he knows..." one and I could
remember the "Doo doo di dumm, doo doo di dumm, da da da da dum de da
da ..." one (which I think is the best), but I'm sure there's a third
and I can't remember what it is. Oh dear this is becoming quite
tedious. Well, there you go anyway.
In my opinion the top children's cartoons have to be henry's Cat,
bananaman, Mr benn and batfink (pow! pow! my wings are shields of
steel!)
Byee.
Bob
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i say london sucks. and so does scotland.
of course i come from the cultural center of the universe, so it's kind
of egotistical for me to say so.
you haven't been to a city til you've been to albany, georgia, usa. we
got a museum, and three record stores and a civic center that hasn't had
a good show since rick springfield in '84 where he had this big
inflatable rocket come out from the center of the stage. we got not one
main street, but two. there's five mcdonalds and four burger kings.
london...ha!
there also a club called "the screet ho's" who ride around in those cars
and trucks with the purple flourescence beneath them and they give you a
mean look if your hair ain't long in the back and short in the front.
let's see some of those scotlanders give you that sort of welcome.
everybody knows that all scotlanders are strung out on heroin anyway.
i've seen trainspotting.
i ain't bought shit lately, ever since that arab strap, but i can't stop
listening to the monkees or "pet sounds", mainly cause i've been reading
that brian wilson autobiography. his dad was a right mean fuck.
and i plopped down 1500 smackeroos on one of those new fangled digital 8
tracks. so far, i've done nothing but recorded the opening drum part of
my bloody valentine's "soon" and looped it so i could have drums behind
one of my songs. it didn't come out as well as hoped for. i've also done
a wicked mean cover of dramarama's "anything anything".
laughing about london and scotland,
brad
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Dear List:
Oh please keep up the irrelevant London banter, I for one enjoy it
immensely.
So, I'm weighing up the pros and cons of being an expat, and considering
leaving Los Angeles for home - home being London/Brighton. Advice from
any listees with experience or opinions on both would be more than
welcome. After all, the list bears some of the responsibility of my
homesickness. All that talk of quaint olde english nonsense like public
transport, football, television comedy, social lives, etc.- it's driving
me mad, I tell you.
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hi, can someone please tell me if the 12" version of 3..6..9 Seconds of Light
has the extra little "belle and sebastian on the radio" song like the CD
version does? sorry if this has been asked before, but i'm not on the list.
so if someone could respond privately, i'd be much appreciative. thank you,
johnny cakes.
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Rumor has it Mr. Lenny "Outie Belly Button" Kravitz cut off his dreads.
AtNatalie's insistance maybe?
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>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 05:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nick Dastoor <nickdastoor(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Sinister: Here there be kravitzmonsters
>
> Adam Robinson (adamrobinson(a)intelfax.co.uk) wrote:
>
> >God, I find the Kravitz-monster irksome. He's an eyesore, makes some of
> >the most horrible music ever perpetrated and has been "intimate" with
> >several women I find terribly attractive - Kylie, Lisa Bonet and now
> >the divine Miss Imbruglia. If he ever gets off with Lynda Bellingham
> >I'll be well pissed off.
The divine Alanis Morrissette knockoff?
At least they did a better job disguising her than Meredith Brooks. It had
me fooled a while until my friend pointed it out.
> You know the funniest thing about him? One of the other high-profile
> "lenny-conquests" was of course Vanessa Paradis. On her album of a
> few years back, there's a touching tribute to him that goes something
> like "Ooh Lenny Lenny he's so fine / Yeah he's the best I've ever had"
> ad nauseam. Funny enough in itself, but slide-splitting when you
> check the liner notes to find it was co-written by.....Lenny Kravitz.
> What a man!
Even funnier if she meant it.
I wouldn't consider myself lucky to be a Lenny conquest. Look what happens
to your career afterwards!
Speaking of football, let's talk American football a bit. I was amused to
find that the local Fox affiliate was covering the World bowl championship
between Rhein Fire and Frankfurt. I thought "naw, this is too weird.
americans aren't interested in what's going on in the world, so why are we
covering this?" And chalked it up to it merely being a cure for football
withdrawal for desperate fans until I noticed that the roster had many
American players and was sponsored by the NFL.
Let me say that I wouldn't be paying a bit of attention to any sport except
that it's part of my job at work.
What;s the matter? Do the Europeans not care enough to sponsor their own
league, do the Americans have to own everything, or is it like eurodisney?
I noticed that the stands were full, but I wonder if it was mostly
tourists, or people who couldn't get to a soccer match. In my stay in
Europe, never did I get the impression that American football was big.
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I was pondering where to take my patronage to watch the crucial game this
afternoon, and we just happened to end up in University College London
Union bar for refreshements when - a whole pitcher of Fosters or john
Smiths for FOUR POUNDS, which holds near as dammit FIVE PINTS!!!! And they
have a large screen and two small tvs. Five pints for four pounds, I
couldn't possibly think of watching football anywhere else now. If anybody
is tempted it is on Gordon Street, and in Easy J's bar on the second floor.
You don't need ID to get in before 5, and if you're scared of bumping into
to me because I sound sad, mad or both, then avoid the girlie with short
brown hair, orange t-shirt and blue cords and you'll have a whale of a
time. Unless the boys do poorly of course.
Four and a quarter hours to go, how am I going to survive?
Internet shopping - I agree, total waste of time. After falling in love
with My Drug Hell, Girl at the Bus stop, and wearing out my boyfriend's
copy, I got withdrawal symptoms when we split up, so i went in search of
it, and low and behold I found someone who said the would get it for me.
Hah, good one. 'OOh, sorry our supplier's run out, but we will get it for
you, honest.' So I have to live with the opertune recording I made when
Claire Sturgess played it on X-fm, but she talked all over the end of it, cow.
Anybody tried MacDonald's bacon double burgery thing with cheese? If you
haven't don't cos it's totally revolting.
only 4hrs to go, I'll have to do some totally pointless internet searching
to make the hours fly by. Couldn't possibly do any work, learning all about
internet gateways, networks and Z39.50 would just remind me too much of the
impending game, shame.
Has anyone heard of Spearmint? yet another band that does the London
circuit, but they are ace, bubbly and into rhythm changes halfway through
their songs and playing dictaphone recordings through their dictaphone
(oddly enough, at least I think it was a dictaphone), and their lead
singer's called Shirley. If you ever see any of their singles kicking
around or have cash when the album comes out this summer then buy it, and
if you really do hate it then I'll give you you're money back (if I have a
job!)
I think my time wasting efforts have bored you enough now,
Vic xxx
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>ooh no, i'm all FOR London, i LOVE all the fabulous posts to the list
>about completely random people that I know nothing about and occasions
>that also mean nothing to me at all - the first 5 are cool and funny, me
>starts to get bored after the zillionth "and then Jasper nicked my
>BUCKAROO! god! we ruled/romped/whatever is currently in fashion" - cos
>it really means a lot to the ooh few hundred or so listees that are OUT
>of London...... perhaps I should tell you about my night out in Preston
>and what Lucy ended up doing, but perhaps I won't cos, er, none of you
>give a shit. don't mean to offend anyone here but hey some of us face
>life miles away from Bow Bells or whatever.
>
>and why do bands play 4 nights at the astoria or whatever, and then 4
>nights in the WHOLE ENTIRE REST OF GREAT BRITAIN....
Actually Sarah, yeah I'm inclined to agree with you. Sorry Mark, for not
always talking about London all the time, unfortunately (or otherwise) most
of us don't come from there, so it makes it quite hard to talk about. There
are a lot of places worth talking, and a lot of people doing a lot of
interesting things - I didn't really think it mattered where they were from,
just that their letters were interesting. Indeed London easily has the most
people belting on about it at the moment - so there seems little cause for
complaint.
What I want to hear is the experiences of some brummies - Birmingham
gets such a bad rep, and the people are great. Let's hear some stuff about
the B+S listees in Birmingham.
Rodney/Dave, a couple of weeks ago I thought I saw you in the pub, so I
spent a few minutes shouting "RODNEY RODNEY... DAVE DAVE DAVE" across the
pub - but it wasn't, it was some fellow from Policecat. If anyone goes and
sees Policecat in the near future, look for the bloke who looks like Dave.
What do I think of the England victory? Fine, good luck to them, did
they win the fight as well? the double? We play Norway today, and in world
rankiing terms we're well ready to get beaten, still that's not the point is
it, it's the taking part. Most people up here hate England and especially in
footballing terms, I'm not one of them.
Who's all coming to the longest day then, cause we should all meet up
for that, hopefully it won't be raining, I'm going to go early on next year
to avoid last year's daft carry on.
Cheers,
Keith.
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