Sarah - I haven't got your email
this is why I am sending to the list
I think it was you that said you write a fanzine?
anyway - here is something for a joke or something. I dunno, I have
never read a music fanzine before
WHY THE FUCK IS IAN BROWN DOING AN INTERVIEW IN EVERY SINGLE BLOODY
MAGAZINE, BE IT MUSIC or LADS MAGAZINE!!!!!
Although that is not funny you could mould it into something like
"Ian Brown is doing an EXCLUSIVE interview for the Thurrockshire
Ladies Bowling Club's annual magazine"
Something like that!
Bye
Northy
BEN FERNYBOROUGH _ MY MAIL TO YOU GOT SENT BACK SO A BIG THANK YOU
FOR TIGERMILK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx,
thanx
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>> Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song
>> they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London
>> now. I was gonna see Cornershop but naahhhh!
Indeed the track on the NME tape is lovely, my mate tells me the current
single's a bit dull but what a track on the NME tape, certainly brings
Marquee Moon to mind, but in a very good way. The annoying bit being the
fact that this bloke out of Ultrasound's taking such a slagging for being a
big bloke, even the fucking NME's joining in on this, can't they just leave
him to get on with it, it's very poor form, and the track I've heard is way
beyond the capacity of many a young band (one band from Edinburgh with a
little pink haired chap in it springs to mind! Idlewild who are getting the
most ridiculous amount of press attention at the moment - due to them having
released a single on "Mr.Indie" Steve Lamacq's label used to play to a
completely bored audience at the student union in Edinburgh last year, this
years Ned's Atomic Dustbin... Oh, that's Symposium is it? Well This years
second Ned's Atomic Dustbin perhaps).
Cheers,
Keith.
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>TIGERMILK
>surprise~! i am not asking for a copy!
>does anyone know how the name for the album came about? i know that
>you
>can basically name an album whatever you wish and not have to have a
>meaning in it but i thought there might be something behind it..
I heard, perhaps falsely, that it was Nick Drake's brand of milk formula
when he was still a wee baby. Perhaps that is what gave him such a rich
baritone voice.
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Ok, if it is OK by everyone else I shall to back to chatting about just
B&S stuff thought type thingy doodhahs, oui?
OK, well last night (the dreaded Sunday, you can probably blame mywhole
homicidal/suicidal depression and frustration on the bloody Sunday) I
was doing my ironing, and listning to Tigermilk.
And as soon as the State I am In started, I just got to thinking, now
wouldn't this be an ace pop video! I could just imagine a video of a
girl doing the ironing nd household chores thing working really well
with that. No band needed to act in vid, maybe a few shots of band,
perhaps on poster when she takes irnoing upstairs.
Expectations got me really bitter about my old schooldays (ooh, all of a
year ago!) and the video for that would have oviously been set in the
locations named in the song, like the school canteen where she doesn't
know what to choose and she's stabbed WITH A FORK which is so mean, and
cruel...
Electronic Renaissance I didnt think f a vid for cos I was be-boppin'
along to the toe' tappin' disco beat, even though give me a it and no
doubt I will come up with a great one!
We rule the School was a nice one. B&S would all be stood on a little
stage, like a school stage for a nativity play, with an audience of
parents etc. And it would start off with a full body close shot of
Stuart Murdoch, who would be stood wit one foot crossed over the other,
and shyly singing, and looking sweetly at the camera. Then it would cut
to the audience, and pan across it, perhaps focusing in on people with
particular looks/expressions.
Then perhaps, I'm sorry I can't remeber exact song structure at the mo',
back to the band on stage. When he starts singing 'on the first bus out
of town...', the band would all be sat upstairs on a bus taking up the
middle seats. There would be the smokers at the back. The shot would
take in the bands faces, and then go to a pov shot out of the windows,
where various scenery would go past, ie a school, buildings, and as it
progresses out of town, fields etc.
And finally, we're back at the school, the songs finishes, B&S walk off
the stage to the sounds of the parents clapping. It would be lit like a
nativity play, ie bright stage and dim audience.
But the happiest one was to 'I don't love anyone'. Wow, its such a
bouncy, jumpy fantastic song!
It starts off in a little 'indie-disco style', like a little club room,
with lots of people bouncing about and 'grooving' to the song, all with
happy happy joy joy grins on their faces, the band would be playing the
tune on stage, Stuart with his guitar (in WRTS, Stuart would just be
singing and wouldn't be playing his guitar), and everyone else with
their instrumnent bla bla. I forget the rest, it'll come back to me when
I listen to the song again
In the instrumental part, this bit I thought sounded really great, I'd
laugh anyway. There would be the band all together perhaps either
playing football or dancing, and looking really happy, and the camera
wold freeze-frame on thei faces and perhaps flash up their name and
maybe some cheesey info. They'd obviously be cheesey, like i can just
imagine RICHARD (riiichard!) doing a fake thumbs up grin meister!
And then back at the happy indie disco. it would be a fun pop, I would
say bubblegum but I don't actually like it, video which would make
people happy and think B&S were a realyl groovey happy bunch of peeps!
WEll, the images made me happy.
Um, well thats enough for me now, sorry about my screaming (well,
capital letters) email last night and stuff, .....um, well, i shouldn't
be sorry. So I'm not sorry and I lied but never mind because in the
grand overall scheme of things it don't matter.
I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!!
Yours faithfully, the beautiful only slightly homicidal Sarah
BLOKE :"How about we....skip desert tonight...."
BIRD :"Why! What else...do you have in mind!"
BLOKE :"Nothing. Its just that you're a bit fat already innit?"
SHE LEAVES
BLOKE :"Check please."
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> All this talk of Field Mice/Northern Picture Library/Trembling Blue
> Stars has gotten me curious about the new album. How does it compare to
> their older stuff? I liked the Rainbow cd single, I was hoping for more
> of the same, though I think you hardcore fans of this group didn't like
> the cd single that much.
Its cool! It follows the pattern of the first TBS album, really, half
acoustic and half along the lines of The Rainbow. And almost all
still wallowing in misery, but hey, its done in such style.... Top
track: Headlights.
And to whoever said it was out on Feb. 9th... its not. I found it
(much to my surprise) last week. Never trust a Shinkansen release
date...
Nick
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David, an idea for a B&S competition: How about "Guess the future of Belle and
Sebastian" in a kind of clairvoyant 'rock biog' way? Potted histories only of
course.
Sarah wrote:
>And will someone tell em why my messages keep coming through with shite
>like =20 on them al the time? Cos they are doing my tree. I never get
>any numbers right!
Hmmm.. I think pound signs are the main stumbling block. I expect there's some
clever answer to do with ASCII conversion protocols or something. Let's have a
go: œœœœœœ
>Are they like censorship? Like '=46uck'?????
No, but a friend who works at a revolting financial institution has all her
e-mail vetted in a wonderfully draconian way. If you send her a message with a
rude word in it gets bounced back at you. Astonishingly, the list of banned
words extends to 'bottom', which can obviously be used in really quite
legitimate senses. Reminds me of the nanny web software that banned access to
a site about the town Scunthorpe (work it out).
Megan wrote:
>also, _don't_look_back, the
>documentary about bob dylan is showing at the film forum in new york. is
>it worth seeing for someone who isn't terribly interested in him as a
>singer?
Well I saw it on telly a while before buying any of his records and enjoyed
it. Particularly memorable was the scene in which he was very rude to a bunch
of earnest young fans that was mobbing him and asking why why why had he sold
out to the evils of amplified guitars. What musical direction could Belle &
Sebastian take that would engender such hostilty? I realise that for some of
you they got in early with "Electronic Rennaisance" but bearing in mind that
they haven't repeated that particular trick... Or all we all eclectic now?
That dubiously titled fellow wrote:
>I'm talking of Devine & Statton, one of the first names that came to my
>mind after listening to BandS.
>Is it me, or they (and their former band Young Marble Giants) were/are
>inspirational for many bands?
<sigh> Devine and Statton's "Under the Weather" is a dream. A nasty dream,
mind you, unpleasant enough for me not to be able to put in on any tape I ever
made for my girlfriend, in case she took it personally. A perennial problem
that. Talking of dreams, I had my B&S dream the other night. Well, to be
precise it was a rather embarrassing B&S mailing list dream. In it, I somehow
ended up offering to let Paedophile Paul (poor boy's gone a bit quiet since the
great baby picture scandal shit hit the fan) stay at my house for a while. It
turned out he was a hideous one-legged dwarf (I kid you not) but I tried to
disguise my shock and take him out on the town, go shopping and stuff. It
reminded me of having to do the same with my french exchange partner many moons
ago. Not that he was a one-legged dwarf or anything. But he did have dandruff.
Tag wrote:
>we should be using all
>this we get from these records, making everyone laugh (like Peter and
>Susannah), writing witty little anecdotes about their lives (like
>Genevieve), or making films, getting together, forming bands, opening
>clubs, launching plans for an international pop underground magazine.
>Otherwise the rest of the world has every right to call us a bunch of
>fucking losers.
I'll defend their right to do so till my dying day. But yeah - anyone want
make a film or form a band with me? Or does it not work like that? How
perfect the story is of Belle & Sebastian all meeting that cafe one night?
Ranks up there with Johnny Marr pressing his chocolatey nose up to that odd kid
from Stretford's window, or that fateful church bazaar (hey!) encounter between
Lennon & McCartney. I dream of such things. At our school the only people who
formed bands were rubbish and into Eric Clapton. By university it was even
worse - the people with guitars were into things like Fretblanket. Never
stumbled across any kindred spirits with musical pretensions. Perhaps I should
hang out at more church functions. Anyway, forming a band at university is
never a good move, is it? Can anyone think of a good exception?
As for making films, well I _have_ already acted in one (show off alert!) and a
TV series. It's always good having one claim to fame, although the thought of
peaking at the age of 13 is a little depressing. Look me up in the IMDB (my
surname's only had one 'o' in it then). But yes, actually properly making
films would be a whole different thing. Which reminds me, did Susannah ever
develop her fantastic attempts to mock up all the B&S covers with a self-timer
camera?
Phew,
Nick
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I realize it gets old 'round here, but I'm needing a copy of
Tigermilk - preferably from someone in the States, but not necessary.
I'd buy a copy if I could, but you all know the story ... can trade for some
cool pop from the Midwest, etc. Thanks in advance.
Ryan
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>what film they though would suit a Belle and Sebastian song soundtrack.
I saw 'Stella Does Tricks' at the weekend and thought that some b&s tracks
would have fitted in it well. She's Losing It perhaps? It's a very good
film, and I'd recommend it to you all. The PJ Harvey song in it's good
too.
John S.
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yes, I've heard dolly's "butterfly"--a sublime song as well. but something
about jolene gets me every time. i pointed out "jolene" to a friend of mine
and he turned the guitar riff into a psychotic techno loop.
sadly... it was kind of good.
by the way, i'd have liked to hear Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan doing "The Boy Done
Wrong Again," but unfortunately, that genius is dead..... ah well, in my
dreams.
--ari
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Tag wrote:
> I really don't want Belle and Sebastian being put into any cosy indie
category, because >they're better than that. Aren't they?
Much better. They do relate to indie-pop for me because they reminded me,
just when I needed it, that this pop songs thing could lift and shape me,
cross my heart...All this talk of McCarthy and the Jasmine Minks and The
Claim has reminded me too.
...and then Tag and The Duke and David and others went and made me all
excited and excitable because they've been saying what I've been thinking
about, about how all this feeling, all this meaning has to be put to some
sort of good use because it _can be_. Invent things, reinvent yourself,
participate, get angry, get happy, whatever.
Duke:
>how many do you think would share some kind of wish and desire and have the
energy to >actually DO something with the love they profess?
Oh, god, the five percent, the poor righteous teachers? Evangelism scares me
but I can't believe that anyone could feel what us lot seem to feel about
B&S and not want to use that feeling somehow. Even if that means using it as
an opportunity to change yourself, rather than to produce some kind of
tangible...something... to show for it.
There's so much more to hope for than for your favourite band to become the
biggest thing in the world, even though that might be nice.
Small things...Frans Hals painting that corrupt town council as
drunks...McCarthy singing about it...Belle and Sebastian seeming to re-find
that spirit from somewhere, 'cos it's been lost or been buried for a long
time. Or maybe I just went deaf, for a bit.
'It's not much to do, it's all I can do...' Whoever it is, whatever, count
me in.
Oh, and Sarah, Star, :
>Yeah, I write a fanzine, wackily enough because I CARE? So I don't know
>every perfect fact about every band about, sue me. I love what I find
>worthy to be loved
And even if we love different bands, which I reckon we do, I'm sure wht's in
your fanzine has more truth in it than a hundred NME's. And that's not just
because I git stitched up by Q :-).
Enough.
Tim
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