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Sinister: It's not you, it's me
by Peter Carter 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Ok Sinister, I was going to slip out the back door with hardly a word, but I've decided that I owe everyone one here a goodbye. Particularly because of the wonderful people I've met on the Sinister picnics. Why am I leaving? Well, mainly because I can't deal with the shear volume of posts anymore. Fast Cow takes up a good proportion of my life now, and if I was to do that and read all the posts to sinister, well, I'd never be off the internet, and that's really not healthy. Another reason is that I've lost my enthusiasm for the group. When I first join I was inspired by everything, all the ideas floating round, and those whimsical stories, and just the idea that there was a concentration of people who were into the same music as I am. However, I'm becoming more and more bogged down with the rules of the list. Sometimes I like one-line-at-a-time discussions, sometimes I like it when people post nonsense and sometimes I even like it when people have the odd argument (as long as it doesn't turn TOO nasty). This doesn't happen much on this list. There doesn't seem much drive to do anything other than write diary entries. Discussions are lost amid the fray before they really get started. Now, this isn't an attack on the list or anyone on it, there are still some wonderful, clever, witty posts on here, they just aren't for me anymore, at least for a while. www.fastcow.co.uk www.eurosexuals.co.uk Peter +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: and I had too much time on my hands
by Ben Apps 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Afternoon chaps and chapettes, hehe MrPink2000's post *amuses me greatly*. I only wish I had a melodramatic tale of depressed teenagedom to bore him with. Sadly, I usually only have melodramatic tales of bored twenty-somethingdom to depress him (and you all) with. Yeah, I join Ken in wanting to know the answers to the London teasure hunt clues. Still at least it gave me an excuse to take some long lunches while I went ahuntin. Missed the Camera Obscura session last week. I don't suppose anyone recorded it onto an old fashioned micro-cassette that I could copy? Which reminds me JOE VESTER WAKE UP!!!! I still have a tape for you. I cut my own hair the other night, and fell into the age old trap of snipping a bit too much on one side, then trying to even it up snipping a bit too much on the other side. When do you reckon wigs for boys will come back into fashion? It's been a couple of hundred years, so it must be due a renaissance. I really don't have much of interest to say (had you noticed?), so I won't take any more of your time, save to say I am very happy and lucky to be going to Copenhagen this weekend with, amongst others, the ever stunning Rachel Fruitloop. This next week will probably bankrupt me but what the hell. I promise to report back with a set list and everything. I'm going to go now and find my local Peruker....... Until next time then me lovelies! bapps _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: norway?No way!
by Elisabeth Zachariassen 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Haven't had time to read the 60 mails in my inbox yet but checked out the latest and couldn't see any mention of the B&S crew finally coming to the icy parts of Norway. The festival of www.quart.no. A wonderful place to have a festival and the weather is usually great, but the last couple of years has seen an explotion of girls in bikini-tops and guys with milliondollar sunglasses if you know what I mean. But not now when the sinister massive is coming? Cardie and specks revolution! elisabeth +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Chicago
by MrPink2000＠aol.com 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

I have finally been removed from the nursery box and given a voice. I was excited to berate you all for boring me with you pretentious tales of everyday drivel, like your insights were actually witty and amusing...they weren't. I have finally found some content on this list that actually have to do with the band, the whole reason I wanted to join. Just because I said I wanted to berate you, doesn't meant that I just did. I just want to ask, what is the situation with the Chicago show? What is Congress Theatre like? Is it assigned seating? La la la? I plan to drive a great distance in order to see them in Chicago and would like to know what I am getting into. Any help? Or will this post be ignored and the list again will be swamped with the tales of melodramatic depressed teens? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Because you're making brain-cakes fashionable
by Michael Ashbridge 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

I have always thought that if I were to fall in love, it would be with a writer. I pictured an idyll where, as the evening gave way to night, she would read to me the words she had crafted that day, still experimenting with the language and glancing occasionally at my eyes for signs of reaction. And I would hang on her every word, watching lips move to form the sounds, struck dumb by her ability to put into words that which had existed for me only as vague thoughts, malformed knowledge, the "yes, I've felt that, but I was never able to see it with such clarity before" sensation. I'm thinking about this because I listened last night to Paul Auster waxing lyrical about his attitude to writing. He talked about the analogies between writing and acting, about his motivations and influences, his own novels and screenplays. As it's my first post, here's the link to the content: it was Murdoch's writing that first attracted me to Belle and Sebastian. The music came a close second. I bought If You're Feeling Sinister on a complete whim one afternoon, not knowing anything about them. And of course I'm not the only one to have experienced the immediate sensation that I was being spoken to. Overwhelming. I was always tangentially aware that there existed internet groups in their orbit, but, being from Northern Ireland, I always considered myself too far removed to benefit from participation. Also burnt-out on various BBS/forums et cetera for a few years and unwilling to open up to more of the same. This is a familiar sensation. Writing the first message to a new group. What to say. How to present. Experience teaches: f-ck it. I'll announce my addiction. My name is Michael, and I'm a bowlie. Hugs 'n' all to the McDermott girl for her sweet mentionables and being cute. A nod in the direction of Mr Chu for being other. Coy waves to the rest of you for being. +-+ Links +-+ - Listen to Radio 3's interview with Paul Auster (real player): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/speech/ram/anwauster.ram - Read a review of Auster's latest novel, True Tales of American Life: http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/politicsphilosophyandsociety/0,6121,615… 0.html +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my treasure hunting days are over
by Kenneth P Y Chu 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Madeleine McNeil said: >>What does one occupy one's mind with while swimming up and down and up and >>down the pool? << Whenever I go swimming my mind is occupied with trying to stay afloat, and thus alive as I claw and grasp and kick and punch at the nothingless as I sink into this thing quicker than quick sand. To put it eloquently I can't swim to save my life.. or am I now just being literal? If I do one day develop a graceful and non-sinking swimming style, I think I'd be gliding along the pool with Pachebel's canon in D playing in my head, the chlorine water has the right colour for pachebel's canon - light-bluish transparent. Not "we rule the school" tho, cos that requires a colour slightly more grey, maybe a pool in a black and white film. And definitely not "I'll C U when U get there" by coolio, maybe if I were swimming in a swimming poo, definitely brown coloured with lumps of yellow bits. I do wonder sometimes too tho what other people think about when they're doing something idle, like sitting on a train. I don't have a walkman to listen to music to and often not have a book or newspaper on me to read. I would sneakily peek at other bored looking people's faces and guess what they're thinking about, from their age and clothes and facial expressions: how this 28 year old suited man is stressing about his work project and he glances at his suitcase but never opening it, this little boy is thinking about the next annoying thing he's going to do to annoy his mum, this artsy fartsy looking bloke is thinking about how the art of the eighteenth century were affected by those of the twentieth century, etc, etc. I bet I get it wrong a lot though, unless every pretty girl on the train were thinking about how cute I am and how they want to brutally ravage me without my consent. er. I've been thinking a lot, lately about the London B&S treasure hunt, too much, actually that I DREAMT about it last week! More than once, too. So I'm kind of glad that it's over and congratulations to the one who's found it. I am a bit disappointed not to be amongst the winners tho, and I thought I was very close to finding the clues. So, will the answers to the clues be published now that the hunt is over? Or will we be just left in the dark forever? And be tormented by endless dreams about where these clues are? Will the very annoyed owner of that shop on 69 New King's Road that was used to be called "The Singing Tree" still be annoyed by 200 fans visiting him about a treasure hunt? I hope the answers will be published. Day Dreams Night Dreams and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Manchester Treasure Hunt
by Neil Robertson 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Is anyone looking for the treasure in Manchester? It's the only unclaimed prize. Someone? Anyone? Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: more swear words than you can shake a stick at.
by Hannah Brown 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

howdy, I went home this weekend and found a video of mine that i had been looking for for ages. This video was very special to me, it was 4 brilliant hours of everything that i like. It had the charlatans interviews, them on TOTP, glastonbury footage, including Jeff buckley singing. A blur interview from 1994,500 bus stops (john shuttleworth) and a programme about brit pop, presented by Damon Albarn and featuring pj harvey, pulp, gene, supergrass etc. It was a really special thing that i was planning on keeping for when i get old and my memory starts to fray at the edges. I knew that my dad had videoed over some of it and i distinctly told him not to and to read the big green label that said "please don't use, keep off". So i took it back to my college town and put it on, all excited to find "cold feet" on it instead, i thought "this is ok, it will finish in a second and i will have 3 hour left of fun", but alas i rewound and fast forwarded and all i could see was, "cold feet" "time (fucking) team" and many many sailing programmes. I even wound it to the beggining and there was 2 seconds of supergrass at glastonbury then it whipped into some shitty mid-thirties-life-crisis-drama-bollocks. At this point i shed a disparing tear. I noticed that the green label had been ripped off as well. So i took it out and competely ripped the shit out of it.First i smashed the box then my flat mate unraveled the whole video on the floor and put it on his head like an afro wig. My video man, i suppose it's not really that important but.......b.but.................i feel crushed..... thank you for getting this far i am going to find things to smash lots of hugs and "why's?" hannahxxxxxxxxxxxxx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: One man's lazy is another man's relaxed...
by Gardiner, Stuart 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Anyone looking for content (yes, there is a bit) may as well skip most of this, because it's full of the usual crap I come out with, and head for the last paragraph. OK, so people don't like the past and present policies of the Australian government. Well, you could say that about most countries, let's face it. And at least Australia has produced good music over the last few years. At which point, I'll mention David Bridie, just because it won't be what Big Gay Mark is expecting. Other good music comes, as ever, from Shakira. Yes, you did read that right. In true "I saw them first" style, I've been listening to her old album Donde Estan Los Ladrones for over a year now, and I still love it. Unfortunately, her marketing people have persuaded her since then to start singing in English, and have marketed her as a new pop princess, a new Ricky Martin. Which is a great shame, because there's actually much more to her music than that; she's been doing something very different to anyone else out there for years now. And of course, because she'd been marketed as a pop artist, people on this list and elsewhere instantly dismiss her without considering the music. I even saw one normally reliable reviewer say that her music was just "a standard mix of Latin and Arabian rythyms", which is odd, because I've never heard anyone else mix those influences together in my life, so it's not exactly standard. So, ignore the dancing, ignore the slightly dodgy English translations of some of her lyrics, and give her a chance... Meanwhile, the Magnificent Miss Madeleine was asking how to occupy your mind whilst swimming. Personally, I normally have a tune in my head. And I sing along. Which is all very well, unless it's a really good song, because then I start to dance to it, which isn't such a good idea when you're standing on 3 metres of water. Oh yeah, content. I have a spare ticket for the Manchester gig 3 weeks today. Anyone want it? I won't charge £4.50 for postage... (priority goes to anyone who fancies offering me a floor to sleep on for the night!) Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Making free with Llewed and Lascivious boasts
by Madeleine McNeil 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Toy Stephen said: >We should spend more time looking up. and some more wonderful thought-provoking things. On Christmas Eve, my loved one and I decided to have a day of noticing things we hadn't noticed before. We walked down streets that were familiar, but we walked slowly and looked up and saw towers on the top of buildings and people walking around their swankly loft appartments and interesting carvings in stone and a million things that were floating around out heads that we never noticed before. It was a wonderful day. I could feel the cold wind gusting round me and blowing away the cobwebs from my brain. I recommend this to all of you. Take a day, put on hat and gloves (and other clothing, of course) and aimlessly stroll down familiar streets, gazing UP UP UP. Drink it all in. And you get the thrill that comes from knowing something that other people don't know. No one else looks up. It will be just you. I have recently started going swimming twice a week, and this has led me to thinking about stuff a lot more than I usually do. What does one occupy one's mind with while swimming up and down and up and down the pool? I thought about 'The Adventures of Augie March' by Saul Bellow. Now, I've not read all of the book, because it's terribly long and I'm terribly lazy, but I have read and discussed some very interesting parts of it. Augie says: "But then with everyone going around so capable and purposeful in his strong handsome case, can you let yourself limp in feeble and poor, some silly creature, laughing and harmless? No, you have to plot in your heart to come out differently..... Mere humanity.... It's made up of these inventors or artists, millions and nillions of them, each in his own way trying to recruit other people to play a supporting role and sustain him in his make-believe. That's the struggle of humanity, to recruit others to your version of what's real." I apologise for the length of this quote, but I think it's so fascinating. I think about it when swimming, think about plotting in my heart to come out differently. And I think about whether people have their own philosophy of life, their own version of what is real. And I realised that I have no philosophy of life, no way of living it, no rules to follow. I read the gospels and thought about living my life that way, because I think that would be a way to be a good, true person. But so few people really honestly are good true people. I know I'm not. I don't know. I don't even know what I'm saying or what I mean. I feel dreamy at the moment, my head off in the clouds, thinking hard but with no urgency and no real need to figure it all out. Thinking in this way is pure indulgence, one of the luxuries I have. ********************************************************************** In other news: I've got my B&S tix for Manchester and have ordered some for the aftershow party, although I'm still not sure that I'll be going. So, if I don't end up going, I may have some spare tix. Who can tell? Fashion news: I have been dying my hair since I was twelve years old. Back then, my hair was light brown and dead straight. Now, eleven years later, I'm allowing it to be its natural colour at last. And it's deep brown and curly! How can this be? And my baby brother just turned 16 but in my head he's still a baby. And I bumped into my ex boyfriend yesterday and went for lunch with him and I couldn't remember how it felt to have loved him as much as I did when we were together. And my Dad comes to talk to me when he's feeling low and I listen and counsel him. And it just feels like time is moving too fast, changes happening second by second. It's like you blink when you're 16, and all of a sudden it's seven years later and you have all this 23 year old stuff, but inside you're still 16. Sorry, this has been a long and rambling post. Amour Madeleine xxx PS Requisite props go to AmyJacks, the Llew and Staceyetta. No reason. Just because. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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