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Sinister: A murderer is just an extroverted suicidal...
by Gardiner, Stuart 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

Archel has been complaining about me labelling her as smutty, and asking where she got this reputation from. Well, you could look at http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199901/msg00265.html, where she gives an in depth discussion of her underwear. Come to think of it, http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199901/msg00191.html isn't much better (and also includes her prediction that the odds on B&S winning a Brit award were 1000-1 against). Or you could go to http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199811/msg00807.html where she discusses whether left-handed people are better in bed. But for the ultimate, have a look at http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00711.html. The case for the prosecution rests. Still, that's why we love her... I've come to the conclusion that while the Camera Obscura album may be a pleasant listen, it is clearly a summer record. I can imagine myself relaxing to it, wandering around in shorts and T-shirt, watching the specks of dust in the sunlight from the window. But it just doesn't work when it's bloody freezing outside. At this time of year, I need something with a bit more oomph; like Le Pastie, or the new Pulp album. Or a bit of classic motown (but then, that's good at any time of year). I Love My Brick is also a classic summer afternoon song. I could quite happily listen to it driving along country roads with the roof down on my car; and it would take my mind of the fact that something must have gone seriously wrong, because my car isn't a convertable. Oh, by the way, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but apparently it's Christmas soon. Which is either a) a good thing as it involves drunken nights out (like I need an excuse...); or b) a bad thing as it means spending a week with the parents. And let's face it, Harrogate isn't the most exciting place on Earth. On balance, I like it, purely because it gives us the chance to hear Fairytale of New York on the radio every day. Only two months to go until Valentines' Day... Big Stu +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The state urine
by Kenneth P Y Chu 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

I was having a wee in the toilet at around midnight last night, and suddenly I remembered... ... TODAY IS "SHIT! BELLE & SEBASTIAN GIG IS NEXT WEEK!" DAY!!! as I jumped up and down in excitment, and sprayed wee everywhere. And thus had to clean up for a while. I shitted myself as well, but metaphorically this time, as I haven't yet received my tickets! I booked them ages ago, arrrrgh! If they don't come soon I'll go. Mad! Before I continue, please take a second to look behind you and see what's there! During that second you took, I've totally changed the topic of this e-mail, now I'm going to tell you what all the fun things in life are: 1) Going into the cinema with a JUMBO (1.5 litre) sized coke, and come out of cinema H!Y!P!E!R! and in need of toilet. 2) Singing along and making those bollocks-grabbing high notes in "Unchained Melody". 3) Singing along to love songs and changing every occurance of the word "love" with the word "muff". 4) Combining 2 and 3. 5) Going bowling. Yes! Don't forget 29th Dec is INTERNATION SINISTER BOWLING DAY! The London bowling massive is gathering force, we have almost enough indiekid arms to lift an 8lb ball now - that's quite a lot of indiekid arms indeed! But we want more! So, whether your name is Asiuah, Emmanuel, or Dancing, come! And I swear that I don't have a pun. I like how the Corduoy Boy subtly implied that I'm not nice. Hehe brilliant. But honestly tho I am actually a nice person, apart from the fact that I steal beer from little children, and sweets from adults. I agree with what he said about Jazz tho, I love my Jazz, I have magazines all about it, too. Ken P.S.: By the way, provided that I can get my car fixed this weekend, I shall be driving up to Glasgow, possibly the night before, if any of you live along the M1 (up to junction twenty-whatsit), the M6 or the M82(the one from M6 to scotland?) wants a lift up there I can possibly provide - only problem is I don't know when I'm driving back down yet (it's the start of my 13 day break so I might spend some time looking at the beauty - um freezingness - of Scotland..) but let me know we can work something out - you might be the person to share my petrol money or buy me drinks. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fun & Games!
by amy.longcore＠ch.novartis.com 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

i've made a little questionnaire. It's just a sort of fun, get-to-know-ya, silly thing for poops and giggles. you can go ahead and send it off to me. in a few days i will compile them and send them all out to those who replied. there's so many new folks here (including myself), i just thought it would be nice. i'll include here a blank copy of it for your copy and pasting enjoyment. i've got some other internet colleagues and work associates that do this sort of thing with me now and again, and it's fun fun fun. you always learn something new. i'll spare the whole list from this action though, so if you want in, you have to send your answers to me. as i said, i'll compile them all somehow and send them out to all who replied. don't be shy. second point of interest: ***SCRABBLE*** the game, i'm obsessed. just over a year ago a couple of friends of mine opened me up to playing yahoo's version of this (literati) with them over the net. so, when i started visiting #sinister, i was lucky enough to find others there willing to play said game with me. i've brushed this idea over with mr.chu a bit... A SINISTER SCRABBLE CHAMPIONSHIP !!!!!!!!! it will take a little time to tweek this out, as we've just started searching other venues in which to play the game on the net (ken and will were even discussing making one!). if you are interested, let me know, and i'll keep yr names and emails tucked away safely & keep you informed as the ideas develop. send yr ideas and thoughts, etc, in as well! literati wouldn't be too bad of a spot to hold it, as you can have "rated" games and they'd keep our scores for us, but if our boys can make something for us, hell, let's look into that! no pressure tho, boys. timing will be everything in this as well, with everyone's work and geographical time opositions. goodness. it would definetely have to take place over a few weekends. we'll see! that said, i hope everyone's well and that Xmas preparations aren't hampering too much. i should also wish all of you cramming and stressing on school good luck! finals are a biatch! love! amy! applejacks! ********************************************************************************************************************* here's where i pretend to be molly ringwald, throwing you a questionnaire over my shoulder in class. i hope jake ryan doesn't find my answers first! ********************************************************************************************************************* What's yr name? What name(s) do you use for sinister/#sinister? how long have you been on sinister? As of today, you are how old? you reside where? Describe yr first snog, please? What was the first novel you read that really made you get all excited about life and stuff? Obvious question coming from me, what's yr favorite board/card game? first movie to make you cry (that you remember)? First B&S song you heard that made you realize you'd never go back? Best concert/show? How far would you have to stretch out your arms to show just how much you adore princess Honey? Artists you admire you wish we all knew more about? Got any siblings? Have you honestly had a crush on someone over the Internet? Ever had a crush on someone way older or younger than yourself? Finish this sentence(please) America's current raid on terrorism is ... Ever been embarrassed by a sini-post? Worst 70's song? 80's song? 90's song? Most overrated indie band? Got pets? Ever meet anyone from sinister? Who? B&S song that gets in yr head the most? ever been in a car accident? what, you don't have a drivers liscense? what countries have you had the pleasure of visiting? worst job ever held? ahhh, unrequited love, ever had one? write a poem! now! yes, right here! ---> I know it can be hard to pick over all, so, as of today, what are yr 5 favorite albums? have you ever done it? (i warned you i was 16 candles inspired! "i think so" will suffice as an answer, as it will bring quite a grin to my face!) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: BUS TO BELFAST!!!
by Patricia Brazil 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

*ahem* sorry to shout, but i'm getting a bit excited! the very brilliant mark sweeney has organised a bus to belfast for southern fans, leaving dublin next friday at about 4 o'clock. it's a 16 seater bus, at the moment, we reckon there's about 10 bums on seats, but we are trying to get a definite picture of who's with us, and then trying to find other bums to put on the other seats (all this talk of bums, do i have to do a body part pic now? oo-er!) ok, for anyone who is DEFINITELY interested in the bus, can you either get in touch with mark on 086 3424095 (he told me to post that, i'm not just tempting cyber stalking twelve year olds ta very muchly) or to anyone who might not have a mobilly, you can email me and i can pass the message on. 8 days to go - RARARA!!! i spent all summer being kiwi green with jealousy of all those people who were going to gigs, and now it's my turn! and it's christmas! and the exclamation mark police are going to get me if i do that much more!!!!! looking!forward!to!seeing!everyone!at!the!gig! talk soon trish delish ps for the students on the bus, how does a pre bus pub trip sound? i think i could be tempted.... +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Belfast here I come (but not for a while, it seems)
by Simon Fallaha 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Hello again everyone. I've been trying to read your posts as much as possible, but again so much has been going on (like finishing off my website). I'm just glad that so many of you seem to be going to next Friday's concert in Belfast, which in fact will be my first Belle & Sebastian gig. Better get listening to the albums then. I know a number of the songs, yes, but it'd help if I knew more. What time have I got for that, though? Being cast as a minor principal in the Operatic Society's production of Anything Goes is taking up more time than I thought. I enjoy the show, yes, but it's left me tired on more than one occasion. Having said that, I had a great time seeing most of my old school friends (that I met in the Society) when I went to see My Fair Lady there. And the show was good too. Have any of you seen Amelie? It has STILL not been released here. Our local multiplex says it's "coming soon" but you never know what they mean by soon. I'm looking forward to Lord Of The Rings. I don't know too much about Belfast pubs. The only one of them I've been in was the Bot, some two years ago. I quite liked it. I've been to a few nightclubs there, mind you (such as the M-club). How many of you have been to the Odyssey? People from Derry who went to see the Stereophonics have been telling me how great it was, and I also hear that the Odyssey is being talked of a venue for the MTV awards next year. Not many notes for anyone this time, either, except: Laura Llew, that was good advice of yours about writing a Sinister post. Still have yet to go through all your points, though. And I notice at one point, you've mentioned Amelie. And...Daragh, I'd disagree with you about the Bot, but then I've only been there once. Take care, Psi +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re:Vision (revision)
by Jason McKinnon 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Well. We are back in downtown again. Doing a stint at the place who laid us off. Looking out over the bay, doing barely enough to get by, i think. But we know where that gets us, don't we? Piles of papers, half-finished capers and the right to not think. And to drink....that is a respite. My Id, a mighty despot..... that leaves me long-faced with shallow-breath lung death. But we've beaten back the world with words and convincing won't help....I've tried. Yeah, I've lied. I've lain low and still for infinite bouts of conscience. And kicked myself for caring.....and I do or sometimes i don't. But still I'm kicking....no treats....just a tricking. Land HO. Mirror can be traps that we set on walls...we fall sideways into our problems....our lives. We try to fill our lives with laughter as love and merry wives. But that doesn't work....so we do....and we try to fit all of us into it.... We cut our personalities to fit the proper shape....a self-rape of sorts...but we feel no pain ...til later. Then we suck it back in....and spew out neurosis and ire at anything we can't be.... the things we want - we hide, given to an earthly body in which to reside. The Pickle Prince _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: s.m.u.t.
by R.Playforth＠sussex.ac.uk 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

in an attempt to discredit big stu's implications that i am inextricably connected to the concept of smut, i followed the general trend and went to the archives. unfortunately, i was proved entirely guilty. just the second month of my sinister membership (back in 1998, when i had lost my inhibitions at the bottom of the york university lake, i can only surmise) offers the following damning evidence: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/199810/msg00610.html i also admit to saying: "i wish i got asked things like 'what's a bollock?' more often." mea culpa. i confess. 10 hail marys etc. changing the subject: duvets. they're great. i just bought the fattest, thickest winter duvet you can possibly imagine. how i even got up this morning i don't know. luv archel xxx ps. i also confess that corduroy boy and i are in fact a scary gestalt entity, sharing a single mind. in real life we take the form of a huge warrior angel wearing flares, a cardigan and bowling shoes. so don't cross us, or you'll be in a World Of Pain (as walter would say.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I love my thundercats figures (especially cheetara)
by Corduroy Boy 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

I love the ice and snow. I love marmite. I love frogger. I love my fleecy quilt. I love my trainers that look like bowling shoes. I love fruit cake with one thick layer of marzipan on it and no icing. I love indie dancing. I love frankfurters, but only when they're not cooked. I love playing jazz. I played jazz yesterday. I will play jazz tomorrow. I love playing jazz, because it makes you feel buzzy and vibrant, or so darn cool you could die. I love wearing the full works, dinner jacket, ruffled shirt, bow tie. I love watching peoples faces and knowing that they think they're having a great time listening and dancing to your sweet music, but all along you know it's not a patch on how you feel playing it. I love jazz, because the song always goes on too long or someone gets a bit wrapped up in a solo, but the whole group know exactly when to finish. This is why I love the music on I love my car. All that beautiful improvisation that makes you swell up but when you play jazz like that you know it's unique, you can hear it being played back to you but you'll never get it just like that again, those perfectly timed trills and cadences. But you're not sad, because you know that when the time comes you'll have something else up your sleeve. Something unique, something special. Having mentioned indie dancing, a friend of mine and I were talking about the misfortune of dancing to indie infront of non-indie kids who are your friends. I still dance how I want, but sometimes I'll see them around later in the week and they say, "Can you remember dancing on friday?! Whoa, you must have been soooo drunk!" to which I can only smile weakly and reply, "Erm, yeah...hammered..." Having only had ribena and soda. A short comment on the alternative formats for our children (or me!) in the future as brought to the surface by Idles: I only recently made a decision to buy stuff on vinyl. It does smell funny, yes, but it's actually cheaper in many places. Loads of people say, "It's so impractical, you can't listen to it on the move, it gets damaged easily, it takes up more space, it's harder to change and skip tracks, you can't pre-program it, there's no indication of how long the song is..." and many more, to which I have to say, "Well, yes, that's true." *But* records were the start of it all. The start of music being easily available to those who didn't play their own or just wanted to listen to someone elses for a change. And they're so much more *personal*, the whole idea that got me into it was just thinking about owning these beautiful thick, shiny discs of vinyl, carefully removing it from it's cover, then it's dust envelope, and everso precisely placing it on the player. Then, carefully lifting the arm down but keeping it up so the record just spins, brushing it with a felt and soft bristle brush, perpendicular to the grooves and towards the outside. Then gently let the needle that you have sharpened yourself (OK, maybe that's a bit OTT) down on to the shiny outside rim and hearing that little "pfff-t", and watching it move closer and closer to the duller grooved area until.... "da-da-da-da-da-da-da.... there you go, way too fast, don't slow down you're gonna cra-a-ash..." The Primitives. GRATE. You can't let *that* die out, and the only way to do that is to buy the things. My friend has a tangerine dream lp, which is brilliant because it's quite old and you can't tell where the peripheral noise stops and the track begins, same with my copy of Atom Heart Mother. Laura, I mean Miss Llew, Her Llewness, Queen Llewy, "Mrs Llew to you", the Duchess of Llew etc, I have a question. Are "Bright Eyes" good? I would very much favour your opinion. Oh, go on then, the rest of you can chip in as well. Who is that girl who posted her address for seemingly no reason? I am going to send you a Christmas cardand some Opal Fruits, because you seemed nice. Time to yell a few MAD PROPS TO EVERYONE WHO IS NICE, and Ken Chu. Stakes of holly to you all, to be taken once, through the heart. Corduroy Boy Tom Of who it has been said, "Just who is Corduroy Boy and what is his problem?" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: King of Carrot Flowers.
by 'Baby face' Bambino 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

>PPS -- how is a duvet really any different from a >blanket? On my bed, I have a big comforter, flannel >sheets, and light blanket (all of which I use to build a >little nest everynight. And yes, I turn around three >times before I curl up). Is there something special >about a duvet that would offer me a fundamentally >better sleep experience? And, if so, could I measure >this quantitatively? Erin and other curious parties, Well, if one farts in bed and is covered with a sheet and a blanket, the fart has only one direction in which to escape... through the top of the bed and past one's nostrils. However if one replaces his /her sheet and blanket with a duvet, the bottom of the duvet may be discreetly lifted up with one's foot in the event of a fart allowing said fart to escape without annoyance to the rester. This could be measured qualitatively with a cigarette lighter but may be quite dangerous. Quantitatively, I'm not so sure about ...perhaps with the correct equipment. Tim PS. Nope I don't fart in bed. But this technique can be used to eliminate sleeping partners farts also. PPS. Nope I no longer have any sleeping partners who fart either. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: 13th Note, russian dolls, winter... this post has it all!
by idleberry 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Brrrr! Brrr! Br-r-r-r-r-r-r! Welcome, ladies and gentleman, to winter! An icy cold spectacular filled with long dark nights, and short hours of sunlight! Be sure to keep your fingers tucked in your mittens and wear at least a couple of layers, because its going to be chilly! I had a look at the design of those new t shirts, on the Banchory Shop website. I foresee a barrage of smutty jokes about managing to fit all of B+S inside Stevie�s hole. Or less smutty jokes about actually wanting some B+S Russian Dolls, so you can play Richard Is A Cannibal (Oh Yes He Is), and on your Santa�s letters asking for B+S in your stockings. Corduroy Boy said: 2. The new single, alright, not exactly the canine's cobblers but I agree with archel in that Marx and Engels is hoobilicious. But I have respect for idles, because she scares me slightly. In a seductive way. Don�t be scared. I don�t bite� hard. I went onto the Eastenders website last night, cos I felt like it. I tried to go into #sinister, but I�m obviously doing the wrong thing. If anyone could give me some step by step advice, I�d appreciate it. Just send me an e mail and say �Idles, you silly girl, this is what you�re meant to do.. and you�ll need to download this and this and this..� The annual festival at Camber Sands.. its come a long way baybee since the B+S hosted one I never went to. Have you seen the latest line up? And now they�re doing it over two weekends as well! Sad, sad news about the 13th Note in Glasgow, methinks. But there was a post on a website about how you can raise money� heres some stuff for anyone interested posted from John Williamson: �HOW TO HELP Since the 13th Note went into liquidation, everyone has been encouraged by the number of offers to help from both individuals and some of the bigger suppliers and organisations involved with the business. This, couple with individual support, may help the 13th Note survive in some form. Help 13 is a fund that I have set up to raise money to assist Craig and the 13th Note in its current situation. It will be run by a trust that will include an accountant, an academic, a journalist, a radio producer and representatives of bands and event organisers as well as former employees of 13th Note Ltd. The aim of the fund is NOT to help clear existing debts or liabilities of 13th Note Ltd � but to help towards re-establishing a new business for the future. It�s aims are to (1) help in cases of individual need caused by the liquidation of 13th Note Ltd � using a maximum of 25% of funds raised and (2) to be in a position to make a transfer of funds to any new business that arises on its formation and completion of a business plan. Larger investors would be given a chance to either become share-holders in a new business or be repaid their money after period of trading. Full details are available for download at www.13thnote.com/aims.PDF Here are some suggested ways of helping: A GRAND PLAN: a number of people have offered to donate, loan or invest �1000 to the fund in return for a small stakeholding in any new company. If you are in the fortunate position of being able to do this, please consider it. However, no amount at this point is too small, and if you don�t have any money to donate, please consider any of the following options: � organising an event or gig that will raise funds for help13. � Donating time to help in other ways � admin work, flyering, helping with the organising or promotion of events. � Donating skills: if you would be able to contribute anything (web skills particularly) that would help raise the awareness of help13, please get in touch. � Telling other people: if you know anyone else who you think might be interested in contributing, please forward this e-mail to them. � Keeping in touch: you may not be in a position to, nor want to, help in any of the ways listed above but still care about the future of the 13th Note. If so, feel free to get in touch. People who have received this e-mail will get future updates as well. E-mail If you want to get in touch � please do so. There is an e-mail address help13(a)btinternet.com or you can e-mail me at johncwilliamson(a)btinternet.com Bank The �Help 13� account is held at Lloyds TSB Bank, 52-60 St.Vincent Street, Glasgow G2 5TS. The account number is 0076021 and the sort code 30-25-83. Cheques can be made payable to �help 13�. While a PO Box number is being set up, please e-mail if you wish to contribute and we will forward further information. And Lastly. . . Remember that there are a whole host of excellent gigs still taking place at the 13th Note. Support them if you can! This week includes Pleasure Forever and Senator (Wednesday 12th at the club), Lali Puna and bis (Thursday 13th at the club), New End Original and One Man and His Droid (Friday 14th at the club). Also on Friday, at the caf�, is the enticising line up of Beachwood Sparks, Neal Casal and Vera Cruise. On behalf of the staff and former staff of the 13th Note, thanks again for your support.� There�s more info at http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=111700&article=3537 So if anyone is feeling charitable, perhaps you could help save the place my pal describes as �scabby soap-dodging indie kids haven that I don�t mind going to�. (She prefers her twendee bars usually, but its one of the few places she�s willing to go with minimal arm twisting.) Lets face it, every year, something happens, that leaves people who have an interest in non-mainstream music with less. And its going to carry on, and then what will we do? What will we leave our kids? Its not about you, its about making sure that your kids don�t become Virgin-sponsored whores, and grow up properly, like we did- getting bullied at school before reaching a point in their lives where they discover underground music and find people they can connect with, and learn how to play guitar rather than just singing Steps Kareoke and pulling boys with wet look haircuts. Or wearing Ben Sherman shirts like all their pals and refusing to buy vinyl because it smells funny. (or whatever the alternative will be in thirty years time) right, I think that�s enough for one day�. Idles ===== http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/corduroysmoke and the world did get covered in a thick haze of corduroy smoke. And it felt good. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! 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