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Sinister: Judy And Her Horses
by Daniel Cederberg 30 Nov '01

30 Nov '01

Hello everyone. This day has seen a hangover of immense proportions. Last night i was a DJ at the uni here in Stockholm, and the free beer and free food and the free taxi ride home sure makes a poor student drink. Anyways, it was fun, and my indie-icon status just seems to be rising. I´m now know as Daniel from Sundsvall (a northern Swedish town) in some circles. (The indie-cool circles i might add). I played a song from the magnificent swedish band Penti and as it happened a bandmember was there and liked it. (They played the same song specielly for me at a concert of theirs a couple of weeks ago. Why you may ask? I wrote in their guestbook and told them a liked that song, and that I would attend their concert. Nice guys them are.) But I must tell you, before I started DJ-ing I thought that my lovelife would start to pick up it´s pace as a DJ, but nothing has happened yet. Are there any DJ´s out there with similiar experiences? Or there are perhaps other reasons for my unluck with the ladies. Must be my ultra-coolness i suppose. Well, I have to read some more Marx & Engels, there´s a test to be beaten tomorrow... Stay cool, and don´t forget to listen to Judy And The Dream Of Horses atleast once a day. Daniel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i made her mother smile.
by nafees saeed 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

last night i was looking for a book to do some research from and i couldn't find it. i looked everywhere in my room and eventually i tried under the bed. it wasn't there but i found something better. it was a shoebox full of mini discs with no labels on, i put it to one side and forgot about it. when i got back from college today, i lay on my bed and decided to put one of them on. it was just the most beautiful music ever. i don't know what it is but it's just so lush, all these guitars, cellos, violins, trumpets etc... doing all these really amazing songs. i don't ever remember listening to this before so i have no idea what it is. i don't even think i want to. you know when you hear music and see you see all these images in your head? it was like that, just great. even though i hate busses they are eventful. i was on the bus home from manchester the other day and i saw the oddest thing ever. there was this guy who was standing up and this girl sitting down. the guy was standing next to the girl and you could hear them talking, you couldn't make out what they were saying but you could hear them. after a few stops and more people got off it got quieter, you could hear them then. the guy had managed to tell the girl his entire life story and even managed to let her let him hold her hand. she reluctantly gave him his phone number and in return he gave her his tooth which he said "was falling out anyway". how lovely. it'd be ace to have that confidence, just manage to do that with someone. i wish i could. i've spent the last twelve weeks trying to make a girl notice me, which sometimes she does. sometimes she doesn't. sometimes our conversations rarely go past the weather or work we haven't done. once i spent an afternoon with her, just talking to her and it was great. ever since that she hasn't talked to me much and she's never around. you know when you know you would be good with someone but there's like a really big barrier in the way? it's like that. oh yeah, she's got a boyfriend too. whenever i look at the monitor it shakes. --- crying girl came round the other night. me and crying girl used to be really good friends but for some reason we're not anymore. for a while now she's made me feel different, although we're the same age she makes me feel like a twelve year old, she always seems to be doing so much more than i am. i know she only came round because her house is near mine and because of the convenience of it all, but i couldn't exactly tell her to go home. she came in and i sat her down and she told me about all her grown up problems that i have no idea about. and she kept on crying. i didn't really know what to do, but somebody told me that honey on toast makes people feel better. we didn't have any honey so i used nutella. i took it to her but she didn't want it, so i sat there eating it whilst she continued to cry and talk about stuff. i don't even think i was listening properly but after a while she stopped crying, got up, hugged me then went home. she felt better, and i felt kinda good too, and all i did was eat toast and daydream. the new single is great. kinda funky too, i like the new 60s thing they're doing. i think i like "marx and engels" the best, i get the image of stuart and some girl inside some launderette in winter whilst in rains outside. i don't know why, but i walk funny whenever i hear "i love my car"...i need to sort that out. i used to think george bush looked like a monkey, now around christmas his ears have changed and he looks like an elf. tony blair still looks like a goblin though. take care, nafees. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: think of a witty one liner, place it in the subject line
by chris perriman 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

you know its been a good party when people tell you what you were doing the next day and you can't remember a bit of it... ...and when the hangover lasts 'til 9pm the next day and where the huge bruise on my side came from, god only knows. although i can remember (and i'm not proud of this) puking from a window right down the sloping roof. i've really got nothing to say, i just thought i'd embarrass myself infront of 1500 people. hmm ever heard of a band called Aspects? young bristolian hip-hop group. doesn't sound too appealing? well they're on the radio now and the song just mentioned '16 candles', quite good actually. woo hoo! IWUTU is coming in the post tomorrow (12" no less) 7"s are so much more sexy than 12"s but you only get 2 songs on the 7" version. 12"s are infinately more sexy than CDs though so thats ok. did anybody catch that documentary on ch4 about the pixies last night? it was really good. apparently in the audience of their first uk gig were thom and jonny from radiohead and alex and graham from blur. actually johnny greenwood said that the reason radiohead are using less guitars these days is that there's only so much you can steal from joey santiago! i had a dream about the whole sinister gift x-change thing, a huge list of who was sending prezzies to who was posted, i think it was my first sinister dream. speaking of the whole sinister fantastic prezzie exchange style thing; when are we going to know whom we are sending to, llaura?, not that i'm impatient or anything but... well... yes i am, i'm getting all excited about chrimbo and its not even december yet, gah! the band known as 'the rock of travolta' are really quite good. they all have the surname Travolta, ramones style. the film '2001: a space odyssey' is on telly this christmas this is a rather good film, if a little strange. the last dialogue is 23 minutes before the end of the film so you kinda have to interpret the ending for yourself. and belle & seb are on 'later...' tomorrow! later is getting better i feel, it started off good but a few years ago all jools got on were crap old bands and african tribesmen banging turtle shells, but now he's at least having some new and good bands on: white stripes, the hives, belle & seb, charlatans, ash, etc. along with the crap (stereobollox, shitsailor, anastacia) i was right when i said i had nothing to say so i'll go and let you read someone else apologizing for having nothing to say bye then love Pez* PS. lindsey baker, i think i owe you an e-mail, sorry i've been so long, i'll do it soon i promise :) darth vader: i know what you're getting for christmas, luke luke skywalker: how? darth vader: i have felt your presents www.pez.com - the wonderful world of pez ;) ivorytowers.8m.com - ivory towers records www.drpez.com - Dr Pez, Spain's premier fish doctor (i think) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ...and you dare call this a college town?
by The Cat's Pajamas 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Grrr... I live in a relatively small town with a relatively large university in it. 30,000+ students with a correspondingly healthy indie/punk/emo scene. We have a couple independent "High Fidelity"-esque music stores in addition to the usual music uber-stores. Yet, despite this I can't find a copy of IWUTU anywhere is this bloody little pissant town. What's the use of having an independent music store if you're just going to carry 87 different versions of Dave Matthews' latest fraternity mating calls? I'm hoping not to upset anyone since I'm new around here, but living on this campus for 4 years has made me extremely critical of the greek system. Watching hordes of Abercrombie Zombies storming the bars and emerging piss-drunk EVERY weekend is wearing on me. For the most part, their priorities seem to be, not in this order, booze, sorority girls, and acting superior to those not in on their scene. Fuck them...fuck them with knives. {Sorry to steal that quote from whoever thought it up...I read it in my first couple days on the list and nearly fell out of my chair laughing. It's become a common element in my vernacular since then :)} To add to my anger, I was looking at buying copies "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" for all of my friends who haven't read it yet for X-mas. I'm looking over the details of the book and find that it was published by MTV...It's still a great book and all, it's just that the MTV thing kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Promoting bad music is enough of a reason to dislike MTV. All of the crappy new series/game shows and the cancellation of 120 minutes pushed me over the edge. I think it would be great to meet all of the Chicago area sinister-folk on the first...sadly I'm at school without a way to get back to the city. Perhaps we can play on the ferris wheel on Navy Pier or something once we thaw out from the impending winter. Laura Llew, I'm sorry for not mentioning this earlier, but my love for you is undiminished and my devotion everlasting. Please forgive me :) Jason (Who's researching a term paper and not usually this bitter) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: In other news...
by Kieran Devaney 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

The phrase "In other news..." has been unfairly compartmentalised i think. What usually follows it is generally a weak attempt at lightening the tone, probably cobbled together by the work experience boy, to make up for the tales of drug addiction and woe that constitute the main news. Rarely are the tales of 'a local man who has found a new and profitable use for the old lawnmowers he keeps in his shed...' much consolation; and so the phrase has become associated with naff, non threatening token local news stories, too bland to be amusing or interesting. How unfortunate. Theres a strange psychology attatched to these stories isn't there? Possibly syptomatic of the the kind of malaise that affects a semi literate culture: the need to trivialise everything, so however bad things are, it's really ok, because they've still found time for the comedy story. Everyone goes away happy enough, or at least no more sad than when they started watching. The point of this whole paragraph was to now give you a link to a(n) hillarious website which visciously mocks the very foundations of local news reporting, especially the type of stories i've mentioned above. But i can't find the link. I'm sure i saved it to the favourites folder, so you can imagine my surprise at not being able to find it. I realise this isn't much use to you as things stand. Sorry. If i find the link i'll let you know. "I belong to the race of the disinherited, and I shall die without ever knowing whether the treasure within me is diamond or paste!" Gustave Flaubert wrote that, in his book 'Sentimental Education', and that particular phrase struck a chord within me, and it sums the book up quite nicely too; pivotally located between pages 28 and 29 in my edition. I'll digress for a bit now because i feel like it, there will be a point to it at the end though, honest. In assemblies at school, the deputy head (Mr Vince Darby in case you're interested), used to do one particular speech at least four times a year, and it basically revolved around a quote from the 8th century (i think ) in China, which went on about the youth of the day not having as much respect for the older generations as was had in times of yore. Mr Darby tried to construe this as meaning that the 'youth' had been steadily losing respect for their elders for centuries; a vast downward spiral if you like, he would continue by pointing out then, that loss of respect was no new thing as regards society. He would finish by telling the school in general that we should buck up our ideas. Of course any vaguely savvy person would have interpreted said assembly as proof that the elderly (for the quote was from 'a wise elder') have always bemoaned their lost youth by blaming the young for being young, and have been doing so for centuries. On a wider level, proof that in terms of our behaviour at least, we haven't changed that much as a species. And thats where Flaubert and his book come back in, because the sentence i quoted at the top of the paragraph (it'll still be there if you missed it) was written sometime between 1895 and 1869, and it still has resonance today. Because 'Sentimental Education' is, at least in part, about dreams going awry, never quite achieving what you believe to be your destiny and unrequited love. This does make it a tough book to deal with if you still have your whole life ahead of you, and the last 50 pages or so are, frankly, quite shocking. So, perhaps we haven't changed so much as a species, as humans, as we'd like to think; 'Sentimental Education' is depressing because it almost says that your destiny is essentially out of your hands, theres a little bit you can do, but you are more or less confined to one path dictated by society and its strictures. Something lots of us worry about today. Not sure how seriously i take all this to be, and most likely i'll just push the ideas to the periphery and stick with my youthful idealism. For now anyway. But i'd recommend the book anyway, well worth reading. So the point is, don't listen to Mr Darby's assemblies, especially the repeats. The real reason i decided to email was because of some things i saw in town today, town being Birmingham city centre; for those of you who don't live here. I saw two surprising things there today, one more so than the other, and i'll tell you about the less surprising one first i think, to maintain the classic elements of suspense, and because it fits chronologically. The first bit mainly revolves around this particular bloke who may or may not be homeless, it doesn't really matter, though he looks, at least in my opinion, too healthy to be homeless, this is just conjecture however. Anyway he is always in town (that makes him sound a bit like a circus, but he's not), and he has the habit of accosting random people, usually people, on their own, who look a bit scruffy (i.e. me) and asking them for fags or money. He always does this with the same story, that he has lost his train fare and just needs a couple of quid so he can get back home "oh, and have you got any spare fags too mate?". Always the same story. Theres a certain nobility to this approach, and a disarming honesty about his lack of honesty. He doesn't ever even recognise my face, even though he must have asked me hundreds of times. I sometimes give him some change, but most of the time i save it for people i know are really homeless. The fags i can't help him with at all because i don't smoke. A month or so ago i suggested that, rather than approaching scruffy kids such as myself, he should go for the armani suited business types who inevitably will be carrying more money. He didn't seem to hear and just went away, i had nothing for him and so wasn't of interest. Today i saw him in town again, i was with my friend ian, who recognised him as i pointed him out. He was in the process of talking to a timid looking asian youth. Ian was telling me of the various times he has been accosted by the man, when two blokes who must have been in their mid-twenties came up rather aggressively behind this man, jostling him and shouting "fuck off" and other obscenities at him. I was worried that they were going to start hitting him, but fortunately they just walked off, occasionally looking back and shouting. Rarely have i felt more sorry for another person, i was shocked, but he glanced at me briefly as if this had not been the first time, and that he was resigned to the fact that it wouldn't be the last. Admittedly, this guy has pissed me off in the past, but i've never really been angry at him; it's the berghaus wearing fuckwits who genuinely get me down. I think the next time he asks me though, i'll give him something; it's odd how our opinions on people can change isn't it? The other thing i saw in town today which is worthy of note is a lot less depressing. I'd just parted from ian and i was on my way to get the bus, still a bit surprised at what had just happened, when almost directly in front of me was a girl, who was about the same age as myself i'd say, bedecked in full goth regalia (i have a feeling 'goth' isn't very politically correct term, but i know of no other which would convey the meaning i want), with multiple facial piercings, knee length black boots etc... i noticed also that she had a slipknot badge on her bag (their slogan 'people = shit' is quite important to the story... and i noticed it especially because slipknot aren't normally associated with goth types). The interesting thing is that the girl was pushing her mother in a wheelchair (this is slight conjecture on my part, but the resemblance was close enough for it to have been her mother, and it gives the anecdote more potency i think). This single image of the teenage goth, with all it's connotations of rejecting authority and especially ones parents pushing the wheelchair is one that will stay with me as long as i'm alive i think, a photograph would of course have been rude, and i didn't have my camera anyway, but hopefully you'll be able to picture it for yourselves. It seemed to be the perfect type of half-ironic paradox that a clever clever author like joseph heller would have pissed himself just thinking about, but i found it quite a moving thing; two disparate worlds coming together. I wondered what the girl was thinking, and what her mother (again, still conjecture), was thinking, whether this was a regular occurence etc etc. I thought about talking to them, but my natural shyness, and the feeling that i wouldn't be able to avoid the inevitable clichés made me think again. I'm glad i didn't actually, explanations would have ruined the moment. I admired the girls guts more than anything, and puzzled over her slipknot badge; she obviously didn't hold with the idea that 'people = shit' (not that many slipknot fans do though i suppose), her whole dress was at odds with her actions. I suppose what i'm getting at is the slightly tired sententious clichés that bemoan how much we judge people on how they look. But what a i saw in town today certainly gives them a new perspective; if the girl would have been on her own i would have certainly dismissed her as another middle class rich white spoiled girly, not intellegent enough to find an original form of rebellion, and has thus rebelled with what she wears. The act of care and attention i saw from her today completely recontextualised that image. At least in her case. Admittedly, i'm still baffled by it, and any possible clarification of why these two conflicting ideologies, of teenage rebellion and familial care, should have cause to come together, it would be much appreciated. Having just read this whole post back to myself, it strikes me as somewhat academic in style, probably because i'm interspersing it with writing an actual essay about Wilfred Owen. I can only apologise and promise to be more bouncy next time. peace and love -kieran _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I'm baking buns for us - they're a disaster...
by Robert Brennan 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

...all burned and everything. Yoyoyo! Lots of you (though not all of you) have been saying how the new ep rocks a phat one. I have to agree - EYEWOOTY is ace and a huge improvement on the OK-until-I-saw-it-live-then-it-was-fantastic JD. ILMC makes me grin like an idiot and Marx & Spencers is just lovely. Mmmm. Liz D. said: "Do nu-rockers buy their skinny black jeans from the same shops nu-metallers get their unfeasibly wide blue ones from...?" My nearest recorded music emporium (Reflex Records, Albert Road, Southsea) caters to this city's only subculture by doing a sideline in said overly-capacious jeans and hoodies that say things like 'slipknot' and 'korn' on them. They're displayed in the window in the approximate shape they would be if worn by a sullen teenager but with a cut-out of Jeremy Beadle's head at the top. That made me laugh. Once. Stacey D. said: "I?ve started reading ?A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius? by Dave Eggers and it is SO fantastic!" It is isn't it! Made me laugh forever. And Dave Eggers' writing style is very easy to parody: http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0005/harry/ Miss Hodottir said: "Au revoir" Which made me a wee bit sad. Hope you find a new brilliant career soon. My flatmate bought a spanking new amp and its just occurred to me that I've never listed to the stereo version of Pet Sounds on it. Later people... Robster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I'd love my car-if I had a license!
by Keith Davis 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Went to the department of motor vehicles today and had my behind the wheel test for a second time, flunking again! At 25, is it wierd that just now I am getting my license? Listening to the new single was a great pick me up. Here in the San Francisco east bay area it was very hard to track down a copy of it. I eventually found one thank god! Gloomy day, wonderous for listening to B&S. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: RE:PEAT: Avant-Goth and the apologisms of non-intellectuals
by Joe Vester 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

OK, since my last post, I have got not inconsiderable amounts of flak for my point of view on Goths. First, it should be made clear that I do not hate goths at all, I have just found that all the ones I have met, with one notable exception have been really irritating. They can look the way they want, act the way want but like being a B&S fan (according to some): "It's kinda like being gay... you can see where they're coming from and respect them for it, but you wouldn't want to do it yourself"... (courtesy of Mathew Willson) No, that's not my problem with Goths, I rather like them being there to liven up the look of the world. My problems with them are: 1-They are very, very pretentious, pretentious people are annoying 2-They are incapable of laughing at themselves, anyone who is like this is a pain. I know this is similar to pretentiousness, but I felt it was worse. 3-They are cliquey. Cliquey people are just nasty 4-They are obsessed by their image. Taking care over it is one thing, being vain is another. 5-Goths, for all you may account it to youth, are really fake people to talk to. They're affected and will just go along with what all the other goths say so as to fit in. OK, so those points don't apply to all goths by any means, I understand that. Neither are they exclusive to goths. There maybe even be more nice goths other than the one I have met, OK, but the fact is, most Goths are really annoying. I should say that all this come from having met quite a lot of Goths in my time. I live in middle-class london, which among its main exports lists: Disaffected Youth Goths Wiggas Indiekids Twats Lawyers Money And I once went a-wandering in Whitby. Which was scary, but I did sit at the same table as some goths in a fish and chip shop. Apparently, Whitby is the Goth capital of Europe. Finally, I reckon that becoming a Goth is often an attempt a pulling. Which Justifies it somewhat. One another note: Hannah Brown declared me a Headteacher. Does this mean I get to order Ken around, being as he is a maths teacher? I have another sinister crush. I think I may have the beginnings of a crush on my alter-ego Ms. Pancake. Also, by the way, I have got a mysterious 40kb message from "Lee and Lisa" in reply to my last message. And I got a similar one from Archel the day before. Is there a virus going round or sommat? I also have a ridiculous celebrity crush on Thora Birch. I also have a crush on my friend Dan's sister Sam(antha), who I have never met but who I talk to on the phone occaisionally. She's 17, I have noooooo chance. !VIVA RACHELS! Rachel "Joe Vester" Pancake P.S. Alright, this wasn't much of a proper post, more a long-winded apology/explanation, and I'm sorry, I might do an apology/explanation for this post too. P.P.S.I may well go to the Obscured Camera gig. I don't own anything by them, but I did hear one song on the radio, and it was v.cool. P.P.P.S.I forgot to have pancakes as I was in a rush, I will have them tomorrow. Maybe I should buy some Maple Syrup. P.P.P.P.S. I like having all these new Brazilian types on the list. P.P.P.P.P.S. I sometimes think my rachel alter ego must confuse newbies. Am I called Rachel, or Joe? hard one... P.P.P.P.P.P.S. (last one, I promise) I know that they're really called Camera Obscura. My "obscura (geddit?) indie knowledge" is just about satisfactory" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Histrianic＠aol.com 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

.and then i forgot to mention that the show is between the hours of 7 and 8 PM, EST. I feel so dumb. I'll never post again as long as I live. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: i forgot to say this
by Histrianic＠aol.com 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

two things, actually. I'm going to read the Belle Lettres and play the songs accordingly in a couple of weeks, on my radio show. If anyone wants copies of the tape, send word! and.. My radio show is tonight. I'm sure none of you sinister types will be able to listen to it because we only broadcast over the general southern new hampshire/northern massachusetts area, but it would still be nice of you to call in and say hello. the number is 603 777 4406. (i haven't got a playlist ready because i fell asleep last night instead of making one. whoops..) i still love you all! cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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