hello, i'm sheriff john bunnell. i believe that cardigans are our future. not _the_ cardigans, but your usual, woolly cardigans. there. i've said it. i'm feeling better now. massive thanga juu's to everyone who sent their sympathy. i've just spent a fair few hours to read 200 sinister posts. i had to go outside for a bit after that. shame that i was on holiday when the pink floyd/religion debate "raged" on. not that i would have had anything worthwhile to add, but... does anyone remember, when back in the day everyone talked about the sinister uniform? did anyone suggest jeans and cardigans? and if not, then why not? and why do people stare people who wear cardigans in august? right. it's quoting time: (eric quoth) "oh my goodness, countries still do that? I knew germany does, and israel, but... finland? (no offense) conscription is one of the worst violations of individual rights, I'd glad the u.s. doesn't do it, unless there's a war... and even then, I'm not too big on it. I'm sorry for you, I really am. what is the "alternative" to forced killing, anyway?" i couldn't have put that better myself. altough i would have probably said that with more swearing. i know everyone is bored to tears already about this whole concept, but... like i said, finland lives under a constant "threat" of being invaded by russia. sadly, sensible people and b&s-fans are a minority in finland, so the majority think that having a mandatory military service is the only deterrent to russia invading us tomorrow. (roberth "soul boy" smith said) "Never mind offers of sympathy janne, what you need is offers of marriage! All you need is a loverly sinister girl to give you the chance for duel nationality and all your problems will be solved.... or will they just be beginning? If there are any volenteers to help get janne back in the country I will be very grateful and I'm sure he will be as well......" that would indeed be the easiest solution, but alas, no offers of marriage have yet reached my inbox. rob, mate, do you have any sisters? (jake (who is a Good Bloke, by the way) uttered) "My fellow finn Janne told us that his attending our very own army in a month or two. So, 6 months of playing hide and seek in the woods, talking dirty with your fellow soldiermates and getting extremly drunk every weekend then, eh? 'Cause that's what they do in the Finnish army these days. But I know" too true. thankfully, i don't have to endure that, because like jake, i'll take the sensible alternative of civil service. but why in the name of satan does the civil service have to be so long? 6 months of playing with guns or 13 months of civil service? (/irony) it as if the finnish government doesn't want young men to go to civil service instead of the army. no, no, perish the thought! (end irony) "nothing about that one, since I went to civil service. My advice to Janne, who is suffering from "You're going to make us proud, son!"- syndrome, coming from his parents: Tell then to f¤¤¤ off. Go to civil service, even if they don't want you to. I got the job I'm doing now just because I spent a year at the Open University surfing the net and flirting with the middleaged women at the office. That was pretty much all I did when I went the cservice." that sounds pretty cool. i could do that. but one can't just tell one's parents to f*** off, you know. one has to whisper it to them when ones parents backs are turned. up until yesterday i thought my life was going to be ruined forever because of the whole conscription thingy, but thankfully nick g's post put my life and values into some kind of perspective. ok, i'll have to do 13 months of free community service, but at least i still have my health, for fuck's sake. i won't quote nick's whole mail here, 'cos this is too long already, but i sincerely hope that you're going to be alright, nick. everyone, go and read his mail. now. and delete this one. -----------------------------------------------***********************---------- --------------------------------------------- why don't they serve free alcohol in workplaces? i mean, is there some kind of law against it? (probably) i would be motivated to work after a few vodka's... i might even show up on time for once... i've been listening to b&s quite a lot lately. i'm playing their bowlie set at quite a high volume at this very moment, but to my disappointment, none of my workmates have yet come up to me, and confessed to being a closet b&s fan. there is hope howerer, for one of the people sitting near me just commented on my cardigan as i passed her. maybe, just maybe, by playing b&s and wearing b&s shirts i will spark some kind of reaction in her... some kind of involuntary reaction, that will invade her consciousness, and make her crave for sweet indie pop... time to go, i guess. i think sinister owns my soul. - j a n n e - ( the dickensian philantrope ) p.s. gina, i've tried to mail you for a week now, is there something wrong with your e-mail, or my head? mail me, your tape will be ready soon... p.s.s. robert "the smiths" smith, where's that university info you promised me, you lazy git? don't make me fly to england, take the the train to barnet, and whoop you like a no good dawg! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. 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