>Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, >I just like them. That's cool. I think they're vile and that's cool too. >I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the >types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to >happen. Mmmm, it's impossible. I'm not really trying to find a word for a particular kind of music, or particular kinds of music, I'm talking about a word for a particular kind of feeling. Not just a kind of happy/sad/excited/calmed/whatever, but that feeling when something really sends you, y'know. >Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to >you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. I don't think it's toal toss (but then you do and you're right and I'm wrong, prob'ly...;-)). I'm sorry if it irritated you. Not even I am dumb enough to believe that there are objective rights and objective wrongs when it comes to music. The point I was trying to make (and clearly I should do it in a less ham-fisted way next time) was that great pop fun is to be had by taking up (relatively) arbitrary positions and holding on to them for dear life, until you get bored. This is pop, and it's not doing anybody any harm to hold a few extreme opinions on the merits of the likes of Deep Purple. I remember the excitement I felt the first time I heard Subway Sect's 'A Different Story', heard him sing 'We Oppose All Rock And Roll'. the power of saying these things is part of the great power of pop. It was important to me that I loved McCarthy and hated the March Violets (or whoever) in 1986. There's a great tradition of drawing arbitrary lines: Wyndham Lewis's Blast/Bless way back; Tom Vague did the same thing. And the famous Westwood/Rhodes T-shirt. "One day you're gonna wake up and know which side of the bed you're on". Sometimes it's fun. And I don't think I'm too off-beam in saying there's a lot of pop-good in getting up folks' noses from time to time. It's not as though I'm advocating violence or anything, or that I advocate the taking of such extreme positions outside POP! (the feeling). See, pop allows that creation of self.... And let the person who has never called a band or a record shite stand up and take the rosette for best liberal of the year. Ten years ago I would have spat 'hippy' at the endof that sentence. I shan't today. See, I have grown up a bit. 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