oh my. i am so sorry. Guildo from Germany? i thought his unbridled passion could only be a product of the mediterranean, not those chilly teutonic parts. How cool! Categoric proof that germans DO have a sense of humour - maybe even more than one! (not really antje darling! if i have offended your sensiblities drop me a line and i will vote for you on the list crush site, tho i have already pledged my body, spirit and clothes to A.N. Other - but hey, I will prostitute myself for the general good of the sinister collective) I think lazy jane (deriving from hazy jane deriving from Crazy Jane poems by Yeats? would be nifty cultural cross fertilization thang, makey me happy and smiles for the bunnies) ANYWAY, i think she is bored and she read somewhere that if you lick very cold metal your tongue sticks to it, and you have to rip the skin off/wait til spring before you are released. And she is giving it a go cos her life is boring and everyone hates her; this puts some exitement back into her life and gives her a chance to join in with the general jane-bashing that seems to be going on. But the silly bint, typically, only gets a tedious disease which she can't tell anyone about, so she continues to appear boring and her life can only get worse :-) But maybe someone was taking her up the arse as well. perhaps she is a cat. Cats lick pavements. Or a dog. or a bit of Broccolli. (my cat eats bits of broccolli for breakfast) My sister is a goth. she murmured something once about goth philosophy, externalizing monsters. I will check up on this and let you know. All the goths I've met are very very nice people. Ma sis sez: if people go around wearing their wierdness on the outside, chances are they will turn out to be the most normal people you have talked to all week. Aside from being original, interesting, un-socially-conditioned, open-minded, and generally welcoming of all breeds and species of human, except sometimes "tourists" ie people who go to goth clubs and pubs with the sole aim of inspecting these nutters from close up, like they were in a zoo or sumthing. Goths do pretty things. They wear corsets, beautiful stockings, and have nice hair. Sometimes some of them go ice-skating too. 2 posts in one day. Long ones too. I must get a life. I'm really just trying to tempt Hunny back into the fold. Hi Mum! Get well soon if you aren't already! love janet who must cut all her fingers off to save your inboxes. but is tooooo exited to shut up as she's just heard TBWTAS for the first time but you knew that already........ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+