first off, about the thing. I do apologize if anything i said offended anyone, i was in a bad mood yesterday, i'm pmsing, so then i got home and read that kind of thing, and it made me even more pissed. i didn't mean it as a personal attack on anyone. It's the same sort of thing i've heard about gays for ever, but it doesn't hurt any less. we can have sympathy for those who believe that stuff, but what about making those comments when there might be people on the list who would also be hurt by them? so i'm sorry for being pissy. at the time i read that digest, i hadn't received the later ones yet and so i didn't know i was just continuing what snowballed into looking like a huge tirade. I dont' think *most* of the ppl who responded were being cruel or personal about it, just saying that those things didnt' make any sense to them. Friends? i didn't think so. oh well. jarrkko i dont' think it's freaky. things like that feel like an attack on anyone who is queer. it's an old raw wound. and yeah i'm saying it right here. BLEH i thought alexanders' discussion was very sensible and well thought out, and very nice. incidentally this is a good and fair URL on the same vein(seriously, it's excellent): http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm Sarah, anytime, anyplace. a cup of tea. *Lesbian* tea. BOO. you ever find you're wearing a dress you don't remember putting on, it's got all dirty and you dont' knwo how you got there, you wish you could take it off but it's been sewed into your skin? where is teri the meltthesnow lovely northern girl, is she still lurking about somewhere? Begging for some Honey=flavoured discipline, LJ (the psycho, PMS-ing bitch) http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange to the pure, all things are pure--- http://members.tripod.com/rebelstrange/buxoms.html ***The Buxoms: Svengali-free since 1998!!*** ______________________________________________________ Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+