Hello again, I wish I had something to apologise for as that seems the current thread so I'll give it a go. Who would think that 80's pop with that bloke with the whiney voice and rockabilly quiff could raise such a fuss eh? Like the Sleater-Kinney thing previously I always had a voice barrier with the Smiths. All personal opinion of course and the guitar intros are all very dandy but when said wearer of said quiff chips in his two-penny worth it doesn't work for me anymore. So naturally I always say I hate the Smiths when asked. Though I was converted into liking "Please, Please, Please..." maybe due to its shortness. As a wise man (or closet Tennis fanatic) said earlier: "What better place to have hatred? In fact, I can't imagine how it is possible to love pop without hating because pop, for me, is so bound up with self identification and picking more or less arbitrary sides..." - Tim Hopkins I must concur. And while I'm ranting I'll also have to disagree with Lesley's pro- Abba stance. I think they're utter shite, I don't like "Shuttap ya Face" or Renee and Renate's "Save my Love" (I can't get the last two out of my head for some reason again it must be a summer thing) but as least I don't have to listen to them everywhere I go. Though I must agree about Madonna though as I love Get Into the Groove and was very distraught when I warped my 12" when I was a lad (I hope that's taken out of context). Anyway, which day is the preferred choice of picnic-ing in London this weekend. As I don't want to go twice as I hear you can overdose on Scotch Eggs and Quiche. Also never mix your savouries. Must dash some band's on MTV or something... Te ra, Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+